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DMerciful:
Obi won with a wide margin and whther is IREV results or form EC8As from polling units, if collated independently, Obi won.

Tinubu and Atiku knows this.

Why has it not been collated and submitted to the judge since?

Even with the mathematics professor?

stocktaker:
. Inec says it will snapped result sheet not transmit , transmit is different from
and transfer is synonymous which means you may not view it real time but transmit means you will view it real time inec did but not transmit in this context that's what inec chairman clarifies but the headless mob are one way traffic in nature ,

Don't go to that area, they will corner you. Just stick with the real-time proof

They can't escape that one. I've been dealing with them since 1800

DMerciful:
He said it has to be done at the polling units. Question, was it done at the polling units?

Show me where he said it has to be done at the polling unit. Thanks

IamV:


Please,stop engaging him any further.

Since you have established the factual content of the news link he posted ,and he's not ready to modify his post to such effect,you should understand he's only after CREATING propagandas and false narratives.

Please, ignore him.

franchasofficia:
Polling units seizes to bear the name "polling unit" as soon as the voting process is completed, that is why the Presiding Officer dismantles the INEC podium used for casting vote and everybody goes back to their respective homes.



So from the polling unit means before the podium is dismantled.



true or false?

Show me what Yakubu Mahmoud said about real-time transmission. Where he said it

IamV:


At this point, you're just being mischievous.

[ I could have also asked you where the news claimed the results won't be transmitted in real time,or at any time INEC want,but that will be me engaging in your infantile mind games.
No point engaging further with someone who can't take corrections and is only concerned about creating false narrative & propagandas. ]

Bye,and have a great day.

This is the 2nd time you have gone and return, mane if you finally get the information you're looking for. You can come back. Have a nice day too

Benwallt:


The snapped one can still be hacked.

Don't go to that area. Stick on real-time. They know what they are doing

franchasofficia:
INEC Chairman said:



Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.



Note the word "from each polling unit", he didn't say "outside the polling unit" or "anytime".



Integrity is accepting your wrong when you are wrong. Trying to act smart when you know you are wrong is lacking integrity.

Results sheet from each polling unit result should be ed from where and when?

That's the question na.

Did he say the result sheet should be ed before they leave the polling unit?

Did he say it must be real-time?

Penguin2:

Why should I prove anything to you? Are you a judge?

Your job is to sit here and shout that “Obi stands no chance in court”.

Please continue on your job.

OK one man down

DMerciful:
You're arguing blindly even when you were shown proof, you still continued

Where did INEC promise you real-time transmission? Simple question

franchasofficia:
At the end of the process at the polling unit, Presiding Officer is mandated to snap and the result from the polling unit. Did INEC say outside the polling unit or from INEC office?


It was stated "from the polling unit" at the end of the process.





Na wa oh, it is well

Where did it say from the polling unit?

PoliticalUpdate:


Oga he stated in his SWO that he did for all states, and just cited Rivers and Benue as a reference for the others.

Your tears won't change anything. There will be a recount from the way things are going. APC will begin looking for technicalities left and right.

Quote me on where he mentioned that he calculated for all states. T for Thanks

IamV:


Alright,let me school you again for the benefits of the audience.

Here's an excerpt from the news link you posted ,and this are exactly the statement of INEC chairman.

“After the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and ed into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level.

Let me break down the first highlighted statement for you.

"After the process is completed.." the statement reads,and what process are we talking about here ?

Accreditation of voters and casting of votes by voters .
After that have been done ,the image of form EC8A will be taken at the polling unit and ed into the BVAS,where citizens can view the results.

Here's another excerpt from the news link you submitted,

He said Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap
election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.


You noticed that highlighted again ?
Here, the news is talking about taken image of form EC8A from the polling unit using the BVAS and ed it to IREV where ANXIOUS Nigerians can monitor the situation during the election.


This are pretty self explanatory.

Where did it mention real-time? Did it say instantly? 😁

Did it say immediately before officers leave?

Where did INEC promised you real-time?

Where? 😁

franchasofficia:
From the news links you posted,


INEC said every polling unit officer is mandated to snap the polling unit result at the end of the polling unit voting using the BVAS machine and the snapped result to INEC result viewing portal known as iREV direct from his or her polling unit.



True or False?

There was no real-time or immediately or instantly. Those words were not mentioned. It may be 3 days after the election, it may be one week.

Where did Yakubu mention real-time? Where? Where?

PoliticalUpdate:


My Question for you is this: did INEC imploy statistical expertise in collating and tabulating her results?

If no, then there is no need for statistical analysis and debates.

What the professor of mathematics did was what he said - recollation and tabulation of results.

He should have done that for all states, he shot himself in the foot by saying he picked just 2 states randomly and he concluded based on just 2 states.

franchasofficia:
I know you have already seen that you were wrong but as a typical BATist, una no de accept wrong at all lolz




That publication was just a clarification of what INEC meant by transmission of result.


INEC used that publication to clarify that what they will be transmitting to iREV portal direct from the polling units on the election day was "snapped polling unit results" which cannot be hacked and not "raw figure results" like Kenya did which can be hacked.



The publication didn't say INEC won't transmit the polling unit results from polling unit on the election day.

Oga when you have where Yakubu or INEC mentioned real-time on 23rd of February, let me know. Else rest. There are even some parts that I would have argued on but it's of no need.

PoliticalUpdate:


I don't have to quote you then because it is guaranteed. Like the Prof said: by the way he is a really a prof of maths by his choice of words. He said and I quote "the task of Arithmetic requires simple knowledge of arithmetic which can be done by anyone". That he said to annul the angle of Statistical arguments which was the leeway APC was hoping for. Gbam, you hear am! That was the sound of the hammer landing and smashing some corn.

Lmao

Aphrygian:
Tiri gbosa for you bro,how can you use 2 to represent 36? His sampling method is soo poor and I no that has a professor of mathematics he should no that, there is no way the means can be separated without it giving a large error

Things we see on the Elupee street

IamV:


Have you agreed that your interpretation of the news content is wrong and misleading ?
Have you done the needful ?
We are talking about transmission of results here,which we have not found common ground yet,but you want us to forget about that and move to another sub topic ?

Hello are you saying you don't have proof that "INEC won't transmit results" real-time?

franchasofficia:
Check the attached screen shot I got from the vanguard link you posted.

Where's the real-time in what you quoted?

show me where it says real-time na. Only that one

IamV:


I didn't pour out my mind,I gave you a factual interpretation of the content of the news links you posted.
First and foremost,go modify your first post when you created this thread to reflect the factual interpretation of the news link you posted ,and apologize to your audience for misleading them with false interpretation of the news content.

Only on that basis,will I proceed forward with answering your questions.

I thought you wanted to come here to drill me.

I'm still waiting for the Real-time proof. The point where Yakubu mentioned that results will be transmitted real-time!

jamjo:




Simple research would have educated you that there is an inbuilt camera in the BVAS.

Read my question again...

franchasofficia:
I am quoting the same link you attached in your first post on this thread.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/02/polls-why-inec-wont-transmit-raw-election-figures-yakubu/ (you shared this link yourself, go read the content yourself bro).


See the images I attached as screen shot from the link you yourself posted




Yakubu is a criminal, he collected bribe and rigged the election.

Show me the REAL-TIME. Where he mentioned REAL-TIME.

IamV:


No,you guys are NOT even.

Go to the modify lead in your initial comment when you created this post and update it that your initial understanding of the content of the news you posted is wrong & apologize to the audience for misleading them.

That's only when you can proceed with the claim that you both are on the same page,because right now, you're still on a different page.

You're basically still claiming INEC chairman said he's not going to transmit results again,which you even posted links to corroborate your claim.
And he is claiming that results from the polling unit [ form EC8A] will still be taken by BVAS and ed into the IREV,and not just raw figures of each party scores,which is exactly the interpretation of the news content.


Go apologize to your audience that you misinterpreted the content of that news,first and foremost.

Lmao, it's pretty simple. If we don't resolve the transmission together, we won't be able to argue on Real-Time. There was need to create a balance first so I'm waiting for your REAL-TIME proof

IamV:


I'm asking him what is raw figures of results, he's not answering me .

Going through the content of that news he posted, here's an excerpt from INEC chairman's speech ;

“After the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and ed into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level."

Basically, he's saying form EC8A will be taken by BVAS & ED into IREV,not just the raw figures of the form EC8A from the polling unit.

I still don't understand why they are claiming & interpreting that as results won't be taken by BVAS and ed into the IREV from the polling unit .

HERE'S ANOTHER EXCERPT FROM THE News link ;

He said Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap
election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.


After reading that excerpt,how is someone claiming that INEC chairman said results [ form EC8A] will no longer be taken by BVAS and ed into IREV ?

This is pretty straightforward.

Good you've poured out your mind. Now where did INEC state results will be transmitted REAL-TIME in any of the Feb 23rd publications?

franchasofficia:
INEC through INEC Chairman had repeatedly stated that snapped polling unit result sheets will be ed and transmitted realtime on the election day direct from polling units, he stated this even at Chatham house in United Kingdom to a global audience.



So what we are dealing with on this thread is INEC's statement of clarification, which has to do with raw figures of election result not being transmitted.

This thread is about the publication of INEC on 23rd of February 2023. The last publication before the election. If you accept INEC changed its mind on transmitting raw data, why can't you accept INEC didn't mention realtime in the last publication?

PoliticalUpdate:
By the time the court calls in statistical analysts to compute the data with the Cross-examination of INEC, APC and Jagaban, then Labour Party will push for the discrepancies based on the results issued.

The only way out is for Obi to be declared winner, or for INEC to ask for a rele-election.

Firstly the professor shot himself in the foot, before you do a statistical analysis, you need to device a sampling method.
The professor couldn't answer which sampling method he used, no matter how good you are at statistics and the method you're applying 2 states out of 37 will never give you the conclusion that majority of results are having issues.

What's the error margin he used?
These are the things to be considered.

10% of 37 is 3.7

He didn't even choose a state from each geopolitical zone that have similar results, that could have been 4 states which is still fair.

I know T-test, Anova, Correlation, Regression and advanced Regression.

The most common and adopted sampling technique is simple random and there are conditions to be met before it is considered a good fit.

Quote me when something serious comes out of his analysis.

franchasofficia:
You don't seem to get it, Obi is not saying Tribunal should announce result based on what is on iREV.


Obi is insisting on the fact that the election results were altered during collation, reason for INEC's refusal to polling unit results direct from polling units on realtime on the election day as promised to Nigerians via several media platforms and channels.


To prove this, LP and Obi produced the original signed polling unit result sheets from all the states they are challenging the results for Tribunal to look at and judge. Some of the party agents signed polling unit results Obi presented to the tribunal were ed from iREV and they correspond with the results LP got on the election day from LP agents, which were also posted on several social media platforms and even captured by various media houses.



Let INEC produce the CTC of these polling unit result sheets with them and dispute what Obi has presented but INEC is refusing to do so, why? Because INEC is hiding the truth by just presenting their doctored final collation result instead of bringing out polling unit result CTC

Where did INEC state in any of the links posted above that results will be posted real-time?

franchasofficia:
Yakubu didn't back down on transmitting polling unit snapped result sheets, he only reiterated the fact that INEC won't be transmitting raw election figures like:


6,000,000
9,500,000
8,000,000


which can be hacked.


Check the screen shots you attached in your first post, it was clearly stated there too.



There is a difference between raw figures and snapped document. You can hack figure and change it, you cannot change snapped document because it is image not in figures. This is self explained bro

Now that we're even. Which of the links mentioned "real-time"?

IamV:


Alright sir.

First and foremost,

What does " election raw figure results/ raw figures of election results" means by the content of the news in respect to the Kenya election referred ?

Ask all your questions at a go

franchasofficia:
Honestly, I didn't follow Supreme Court's verdict on iREV concerning Osun state guber election, you can tell me here if you know it.




But mind you, Obi is not insisting on just iREV result, Obi have produced original polling unit result sheets of all the affected states he is challenging their results, which were signed by APC, LP, PDP, NNPP and other available party agents, which he brought in several boxes to the Presidential tribunal court as evidence.


APC and INEC didn't expect that from LP because they felt LP didn't have enough polling unit agents to produce such daunting evidence, they were expecting Peter Obi to rely just on iREV and BVAS which INEC had manipulated to match their doctored results.



If the judges are courageous and fearless enough, from the clear evidences provided by LP and Obi, if properly checked, Obi won and at worst case scenario, they will call for a rerun and Tinubu and his camp are sensing that and reason Tinubu indirectly warned judges in a threat-like message he gave the other day and also another reason Tinubu hit the ground running fast with some laudable policies and bill g to win more followers should in case the tribunal calls for a rerun.

😂 😂 😂
I won't even comment on the results he brought to court because if I ask you for the source of the result and proof that they are different from what INEC presented, wàhálà will start.

On Osun's case, you followed result but didn't follow the case. Read up on the verdict of the case over IREV, and come back here to tell me if Obi has a case

orisa37:
ALL THESE ARE VERBAL MESSAGES OF PROF. MAHMOOD AND THEY ARE NOT IN ANY WAY LEGAL.

So you didn't see Labour Party in court yesterday, they came with video to play the same verbal messages you're talking about... The same people that accepted that Yakubu talked about transmission don't want to accept he backed down.

Yakubu used the media in both cases.