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IamV: 6:16am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Lmao, it's pretty simple. If we don't resolve the transmission together, we won't be able to argue on Real-Time. There was need to create a balance first so I'm waiting for your REAL-TIME proof

Have you agreed that your interpretation of the news content is wrong and misleading ?
Have you done the needful ?
We are talking about transmission of results here,which we have not found common ground yet,but you want us to forget about that and move to another sub topic ?

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BATified23(m): 6:17am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
Check the attached screen shot I got from the vanguard link you posted. grin

Where's the real-time in what you quoted?

grin show me where it says real-time na. Only that one grin
IamV: 6:18am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


I thought you wanted to come here to drill me. grin grin

I'm still waiting for the Real-time proof. The point where Yakubu mentioned that results will be transmitted real-time!

First and foremost,

Do you now agree that results [ form EC8A] from the polling unit will be taken by BVAS and ed into IREV ?

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BATified23(m): 6:19am On Jun 17, 2023
IamV:


Have you agreed that your interpretation of the news content is wrong and misleading ?
Have you done the needful ?
We are talking about transmission of results here,which we have not found common ground yet,but you want us to forget about that and move to another sub topic ?


Hello are you saying you don't have proof that "INEC won't transmit results" real-time?
franchasofficia: 6:26am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Where's the real-time in what you quoted?

grin show me where it says real-time na. Only that one grin
I know you have already seen that you were wrong in your understanding and interpretation of the publication, but as a typical BATist, una no de accept wrong at all lolz




That publication was just a clarification of what INEC meant by transmission of result.


INEC used that publication to clarify that what they will be transmitting to iREV portal direct from the polling units on the election day was "snapped polling unit results" which cannot be hacked and not "raw figure results" like Kenya did which can be hacked.



The publication didn't say INEC won't transmit the polling unit results from polling unit on the election day.

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BATified23(m): 6:28am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
I know you have already seen that you were wrong but as a typical BATist, una no de accept wrong at all lolz




That publication was just a clarification of what INEC meant by transmission of result.


INEC used that publication to clarify that what they will be transmitting to iREV portal direct from the polling units on the election day was "snapped polling unit results" which cannot be hacked and not "raw figure results" like Kenya did which can be hacked.



The publication didn't say INEC won't transmit the polling unit results from polling unit on the election day.

Oga when you have where Yakubu or INEC mentioned real-time on 23rd of February, let me know. Else rest. There are even some parts that I would have argued on but it's of no need.
franchasofficia: 6:33am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Oga when you have where Yakubu or INEC mentioned real-time on 23rd of February, let me know. Else rest. There are even some parts that I would have argued on but it's of no need.
From the news links you posted,
https://tribuneonlineng.com/we-wont-transmit-raw-figures-of-election-results-inec-chairman/

INEC said every polling unit officer known as Presiding Officer is mandated to snap the polling unit result at the end of the polling unit voting using the BVAS machine and the snapped result to INEC result viewing portal known as iREV direct from his or her polling unit.



True or False?

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IamV: 6:33am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Hello are you saying you don't have proof that "INEC won't transmit results" real-time?

Alright,let me school you again for the benefits of the audience.

Here's an excerpt from the news link you posted ,and this are exactly the statement of INEC chairman.

โ€œAfter the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and ed into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level.

Let me break down the first highlighted statement for you.

"After the process is completed.." the statement reads,and what process are we talking about here ?

Accreditation of voters and casting of votes by voters .
After that have been done ,the image of form EC8A will be taken at the polling unit and ed into the BVAS,where citizens can view the results.

Here's another excerpt from the news link you submitted,

He said Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap
election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.


You noticed that highlighted again ?
Here, the news is talking about taken image of form EC8A from the polling unit using the BVAS and ed it to IREV where ANXIOUS Nigerians can monitor the situation during the election.


This are pretty self explanatory.

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BATified23(m): 6:35am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
From the news links you posted,


INEC said every polling unit officer is mandated to snap the polling unit result at the end of the polling unit voting using the BVAS machine and the snapped result to INEC result viewing portal known as iREV direct from his or her polling unit.



True or False?

There was no real-time or immediately or instantly. Those words were not mentioned. It may be 3 days after the election, it may be one week.

Where did Yakubu mention real-time? Where? Where?

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BATified23(m): 6:37am On Jun 17, 2023
IamV:


Alright,let me school you again for the benefits of the audience.

Here's an excerpt from the news link you posted ,and this are exactly the statement of INEC chairman.

โ€œAfter the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and ed into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level.

Let me break down the first highlighted statement for you.

"After the process is completed.." the statement reads,and what process are we talking about here ?

Accreditation of voters and casting of votes by voters .
After that have been done ,the image of form EC8A will be taken at the polling unit and ed into the BVAS,where citizens can view the results.

Here's another excerpt from the news link you submitted,

He said Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap
election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.


You noticed that highlighted again ?
Here, the news is talking about taken image of form EC8A from the polling unit using the BVAS and ed it to IREV where ANXIOUS Nigerians can monitor the situation during the election.


This are pretty self explanatory.




Where did it mention real-time? Did it say instantly? ๐Ÿ˜

Did it say immediately before officers leave?

Where did INEC promised you real-time?

Where? ๐Ÿ˜

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franchasofficia: 6:38am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


There was no real-time or immediately or instantly. Those words were not mentioned. It may be 3 days after the election, it may be one week.

Where did Yakubu mention real-time? Where? Where?
At the end of the process at the polling unit, Presiding Officer is mandated to snap and the result from the polling unit. Did INEC say outside the polling unit or from INEC office?


It was stated "from the polling unit" at the end of the process.





Na wa oh, it is well

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DMerciful(m): 6:39am On Jun 17, 2023
You're arguing blindly even when you were shown proof, you still continued
BATified23:


grin grin

3rd Position will remain 3rd Position, that Re-run that Obi is seeking, he won't get.

Back to the topic, when did BVAS become a camera for snapping election results?

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BATified23(m): 6:40am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
At the end of the process at the polling unit, Presiding Officer is mandated to snap and the result from the polling unit. Did INEC say outside the polling unit or from INEC office?


It was stated "from the polling unit" at the end of the process.





Na wa oh, it is well

Where did it say from the polling unit? grin
Penguin2: 6:40am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Obi has never presented any result to show he won the election. He has been arguing on irregularities. He wants to find a way majority of votes from places Tinubu won can be cancelled so we can have a rerun. You can prove me wrong by showing any alternative result Obi's lawyers have presented in court.

If I ask you to prove that Obi won the election now, bring out the real results, wร hรกlร  will start again
Why should I prove anything to you? Are you a judge?

Your job is to sit here and shout that โ€œObi stands no chance in courtโ€.

Please continue on your job.

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BATified23(m): 6:41am On Jun 17, 2023
DMerciful:
You're arguing blindly even when you were shown proof, you still continued

Where did INEC promise you real-time transmission? Simple question grin
BATified23(m): 6:41am On Jun 17, 2023
Penguin2:

Why should I prove anything to you? Are you a judge?

Your job is to sit here and shout that โ€œObi stands no chance in courtโ€.

Please continue on your job.

OK one man down grin
franchasofficia: 6:42am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Where did it mention real-time? Did it say instantly? ๐Ÿ˜

Did it say immediately before officers leave?

Where did INEC promised you real-time?

Where? ๐Ÿ˜
INEC Chairman said:



Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.



Note the word "from each polling unit", he didn't say "outside the polling unit" or "anytime".



Integrity is accepting your wrong when you are wrong. Trying to act smart when you know you are wrong is lacking integrity.

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Benwallt(m): 6:44am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
You guys don't seem to understand the difference.



Kenya transmitted raw figures, while Yakubu said INEC will only transmit snapped image of polling unit results direct from polling units to iREV in realtime (meaning as soon as voting and counting ends in each polling unit), so mark the difference.



What it means is that Kenya did their own result collation electronically which their electoral law had provision for but Nigeria's electoral law doesn't permit electronic collation of election result which they claim can be hacked, understood. But transmitting snapped polling unit election result to INEC's server known as iREV is not result collation, it is for public credibility purpose and to guard against rigging of results during final manual collation since Nigerians can do manual collation using the originally ed snapped polling unit results on iREV to check for discrepancies with final result announced by INEC.


So this is where the problem is and where INEC used to rig the election because snapped polling unit result sheets of NASS election conducted same time with Presidential election were being ed and transmitted successfully on realtime to INEC's iREV (result viewing online portal) on the election day but Presidential election own wasn't going through, which tells you there was something fishy.


Nobody expected INEC to transmit the raw figures counted from polling units, what we expected is the snapped polling unit results ed and transmitted to iREV direct from every polling unit as done in Osun state.



You can hack raw figure transmission but you cannot hack snapped picture of polling unit result which must be the original INEC result sheet from polling unit bearing the signatures of each party's polling unit agent; APC, LP, PDP, NNPP, others.



Hope you understand the difference now?

The snapped one can still be hacked.
BATified23(m): 6:45am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
INEC Chairman said:



Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.



Note the word "from each polling unit", he didn't say "outside the polling unit" or "anytime".



Integrity is accepting your wrong when you are wrong. Trying to act smart when you know you are wrong is lacking integrity.

Results sheet from each polling unit result should be ed from where and when?

That's the question na.

Did he say the result sheet should be ed before they leave the polling unit?

Did he say it must be real-time? grin
BATified23(m): 6:46am On Jun 17, 2023
Benwallt:


The snapped one can still be hacked.

Don't go to that area. Stick on real-time. They know what they are doing grin

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IamV: 6:46am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Where did it mention real-time? Did it say instantly? ๐Ÿ˜

Did it say immediately before officers leave?

Where did INEC promised you real-time?

Where? ๐Ÿ˜

At this point, you're just being mischievous.

[ I could have also asked you where the news claimed the results won't be transmitted in real time,or at any time INEC want,but that will be me engaging in your infantile mind games.
No point engaging further with someone who can't take corrections and is only concerned about creating false narratives & propagandas
. ]

Bye,and have a great day.

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franchasofficia: 6:48am On Jun 17, 2023
BATified23:


Results sheet from each polling unit result should be ed from where and when?

That's the question na.

Did he say the result sheet should be ed before they leave the polling unit?

Did he say it must be real-time? grin
Polling units seizes to bear the name "polling unit" as soon as the voting process is completed, that is why the Presiding Officer dismantles the INEC podium used for casting vote and everybody goes back to their respective homes.



So from the polling unit means before the podium is dismantled.



true or false?

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BATified23(m): 6:48am On Jun 17, 2023
IamV:


At this point, you're just being mischievous.

[ I could have also asked you where the news claimed the results won't be transmitted in real time,or at any time INEC want,but that will be me engaging in your infantile mind games.
No point engaging further with someone who can't take corrections and is only concerned about creating false narrative & propagandas
. ]

Bye,and have a great day.

This is the 2nd time you have gone and return, mane if you finally get the information you're looking for. You can come back. Have a nice day too grin grin
BATified23(m): 6:50am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
Polling units seizes to bear the name "polling unit" as soon as the voting process is completed, that is why the Presiding Officer dismantles the INEC podium used for casting vote and everybody goes back to their respective homes.



So from the polling unit means before the podium is dismantled.



true or false?

Show me what Yakubu Mahmoud said about real-time transmission. Where he said it grin
IamV: 6:51am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
INEC Chairman said:



Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.



Note the word "from each polling unit", he didn't say "outside the polling unit" or "anytime".



Integrity is accepting your wrong when you are wrong. Trying to act smart when you know you are wrong is lacking integrity.

Please,stop engaging him any further.

Since you have established the factual content of the news link he posted ,and he's not ready to modify his post to such effect,you should understand he's only after CREATING propagandas and false narratives.

Please, ignore him.

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BATified23(m): 6:54am On Jun 17, 2023
IamV:


Please,stop engaging him any further.

Since you have established the factual content of the news link he posted ,and he's not ready to modify his post to such effect,you should understand he's only after CREATING propagandas and false narratives.

Please, ignore him.

grin grin
DMerciful(m): 6:59am On Jun 17, 2023
He said it has to be done at the polling units. Question, was it done at the polling units?
BATified23:


Where did it mention real-time? Did it say instantly? ๐Ÿ˜

Did it say immediately before officers leave?

Where did INEC promised you real-time?

Where? ๐Ÿ˜

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franchasofficia: 7:05am On Jun 17, 2023
IamV:


Please,stop engaging him any further.

Since you have established the factual content of the news link he posted ,and he's not ready to modify his post to such effect,you should understand he's only after CREATING propagandas and false narratives.

Please, ignore him.
Definitely smiley

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BATified23(m): 7:06am On Jun 17, 2023
DMerciful:
He said it has to be done at the polling units. Question, was it done at the polling units?

Show me where he said it has to be done at the polling unit. Thanks
stocktaker: 7:08am On Jun 17, 2023
franchasofficia:
You guys don't seem to understand the difference.



Kenya transmitted raw figures, while Yakubu said INEC will only transmit snapped image of polling unit results direct from polling units to iREV in realtime (meaning as soon as voting and counting ends in each polling unit), so mark the difference.



What it means is that Kenya did their own result collation electronically which their electoral law had provision for but Nigeria's electoral law doesn't permit electronic collation of election result which they claim can be hacked, understood. But transmitting snapped polling unit election result to INEC's server known as iREV is not result collation, it is for public credibility purpose and to guard against rigging of results during final manual collation since Nigerians can do manual collation using the originally ed snapped polling unit results on iREV to check for discrepancies with final result announced by INEC.


So this is where the problem is and where INEC used to rig the election because snapped polling unit result sheets of NASS election conducted same time with Presidential election were being ed and transmitted successfully on realtime to INEC's iREV (result viewing online portal) on the election day but Presidential election own wasn't going through, which tells you there was something fishy.


Nobody expected INEC to transmit the raw figures counted from polling units, what we expected is the snapped polling unit results ed and transmitted to iREV direct from every polling unit as done in Osun state.



You can hack raw figure transmission but you cannot hack snapped picture of polling unit result which must be the original INEC result sheet from polling unit bearing the signatures of each party's polling unit agent; APC, LP, PDP, NNPP, others.



Hope you understand the difference now?
. Inec says it will snapped result sheet not transmit , transmit is different from
and transfer is synonymous which means you may not view it real time but transmit means you will view it real time inec did but not transmit in this context that's what inec chairman clarifies but the headless mob are one way traffic in nature ,
BATified23(m): 7:09am On Jun 17, 2023
stocktaker:
. Inec says it will snapped result sheet not transmit , transmit is different from
and transfer is synonymous which means you may not view it real time but transmit means you will view it real time inec did but not transmit in this context that's what inec chairman clarifies but the headless mob are one way traffic in nature ,

Don't go to that area, they will corner you. Just stick with the real-time proof grin

They can't escape that one. I've been dealing with them since 1800 grin grin
DMerciful(m): 7:11am On Jun 17, 2023
Obi won with a wide margin and whther is IREV results or form EC8As from polling units, if collated independently, Obi won.

Tinubu and Atiku knows this.
BATified23:


Show me where he said it has to be done at the polling unit. Thanks

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