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Penguin2:

Rerun is not going to happen because Obi won the election by a wild margin and he would be so declared. So, tell Tinubu that all his schemings to secure allies for himself in case of rerun election is a futile effort.

Now, read the image below again but slowly this time so you get what is written there and stop embarrassing your intelligence (if you have any) in public.

Obi has never presented any result to show he won the election. He has been arguing on irregularities. He wants to find a way majority of votes from places Tinubu won can be cancelled so we can have a rerun. You can prove me wrong by showing any alternative result Obi's lawyers have presented in court.

If I ask you to prove that Obi won the election now, bring out the real results, wàhálà will start again

IamV:

Did you REALLY read the content of the news you posted ?
Did you REALLY comprehend the content of the news links you posted ?

From all indications ,it seems you just read the headline of the news and ran away with it,like the respondents lawyers did,and like an average Nigerian will do.

I'm asking you again.

Did you REALLY read the content of the news you posted , and comprehend the content of the news you posted ?

If you genuinely read the content of the news and understand it,I want to ask you some few questions EXACTLY from the content of the news.

Be civil, I'm not here to engage with you on a needless back and forth.

Feel free to ask your questions man

ALL THESE ARE VERBAL MESSAGES OF PROF. MAHMOOD AND THEY ARE NOT IN ANY WAY LEGAL.

BATified23:


You haven't answered my question. What was the verdict on IREV in Osun?

If the verdict is to go by, does Obi have a case? Simple question!

Honestly, I didn't follow Supreme Court's verdict on iREV concerning Osun state guber election, you can tell me here if you know it.




But mind you, Obi is not insisting on just iREV result, Obi have produced original polling unit result sheets of all the affected states he is challenging their results, which were signed by APC, LP, PDP, NNPP and other available party agents, which he brought in several boxes to the Presidential tribunal court as evidence.


APC and INEC didn't expect that from LP because they felt LP didn't have enough polling unit agents to produce such daunting evidence, they were expecting Peter Obi to rely just on iREV and BVAS which INEC had manipulated to match their doctored results.



If the judges are courageous and fearless enough, from the clear evidences provided by LP and Obi, if properly checked, Obi won and at worst case scenario, they will call for a rerun and Tinubu and his camp are sensing that and reason Tinubu indirectly warned judges in a threat-like message he gave the other day and also another reason Tinubu hit the ground running fast with some laudable policies and bill g to win more followers should in case the tribunal calls for a rerun.



No doubt, Tinubu is a very smart politician, smarter than Atiku honestly.


If you watch Tinubu's moves so far since his inauguration, he is preparing for a rerun by doing things to widen his electoral coverage. ing Southsouth to clinch the Senate President to decimate Obi's Southsouth base.


Appointing Middlebelt Christian as SGF to allay Middlebelt Christians' fears of Islamization thereby decimating Obi's middlebelt and Northern Christians voting base.



From the look of things, if there is a rerun today, Tinubu have an upper hand and may likely emerge clean winner this time, that's if the tribunal is fair enough in their judgment, of which if they are, Obi may likely be declared winner

BATified23:


Feel free to ask your questions man

Alright sir.

First and foremost,

What does " election raw figure results/ raw figures of election results" means by the content of the news in respect to the Kenya election referred ?

orisa37:
ALL THESE ARE VERBAL MESSAGES OF PROF. MAHMOOD AND THEY ARE NOT IN ANY WAY LEGAL.

So you didn't see Labour Party in court yesterday, they came with video to play the same verbal messages you're talking about... The same people that accepted that Yakubu talked about transmission don't want to accept he backed down.

Yakubu used the media in both cases.

EyeCumInPiece:
What INEC said is not really what matters, but what INEC is obligated by Law to do.

The mission of INEC is to serve as an independent and effective Election Management Bodies (EMB) committed to the conduct of free, fair and credible elections for sustainable democracy in Nigeria.

Continue o...

So I can decide to jump on your feet with my full weight just because marching on people leg is not mentioned in the law book? Abi no be so?

See your logic sef

franchasofficia:
Honestly, I didn't follow Supreme Court's verdict on iREV concerning Osun state guber election, you can tell me here if you know it.




But mind you, Obi is not insisting on just iREV result, Obi have produced original polling unit result sheets of all the affected states he is challenging their results, which were signed by APC, LP, PDP, NNPP and other available party agents, which he brought in several boxes to the Presidential tribunal court as evidence.


APC and INEC didn't expect that from LP because they felt LP didn't have enough polling unit agents to produce such daunting evidence, they were expecting Peter Obi to rely just on iREV and BVAS which INEC had manipulated to match their doctored results.



If the judges are courageous and fearless enough, from the clear evidences provided by LP and Obi, if properly checked, Obi won and at worst case scenario, they will call for a rerun and Tinubu and his camp are sensing that and reason Tinubu indirectly warned judges in a threat-like message he gave the other day and also another reason Tinubu hit the ground running fast with some laudable policies and bill g to win more followers should in case the tribunal calls for a rerun.

😂 😂 😂
I won't even comment on the results he brought to court because if I ask you for the source of the result and proof that they are different from what INEC presented, wàhálà will start.

On Osun's case, you followed result but didn't follow the case. Read up on the verdict of the case over IREV, and come back here to tell me if Obi has a case

IamV:


Alright sir.

First and foremost,

What does " election raw figure results/ raw figures of election results" means by the content of the news in respect to the Kenya election referred ?

Ask all your questions at a go

BATified23:


Ask all your questions at a go

Just relax, let's take it step by step.

Your understanding of the first question will give the audience and I clue if you really read and understood the content of that news.
Because, that's the fundamental.

BATified23:


So you didn't see Labour Party in court yesterday, they came with video to play the same verbal messages you're talking about... The same people that accepted that Yakubu talked about transmission don't want to accept he backed down.

Yakubu used the media in both cases.

Yakubu didn't back down on transmitting polling unit snapped result sheets, he only reiterated the fact that INEC won't be transmitting raw election figures like:


6,000,000
9,500,000
8,000,000


which can be hacked.


Check the screen shots you attached in your first post, it was clearly stated there too.



There is a difference between raw figures and snapped document. You can hack figure and change it, you cannot change snapped document because it is image not in figures. This is self explained bro

franchasofficia:
You guys don't seem to understand the difference.



Kenya transmitted raw figures, while Yakubu said INEC will only transmit snapped image of polling unit results direct from polling units to iREV in realtime (meaning as soon as voting and counting ends in each polling unit), so mark the difference.



What it means is that Kenya did their own result collation electronically which their electoral law had provision for but Nigeria's electoral law doesn't permit electronic collation of election result which they claim can be hacked, understood. But transmitting snapped polling unit election result to INEC's server known as iREV is not result collation, it is for public credibility purpose and to guard against rigging of results during final manual collation since Nigerians can do manual collation using the originally ed snapped polling unit results on iREV to check for discrepancies with final result announced by INEC.


So this is where the problem is and where INEC used to rig the election because snapped polling unit result sheets of NASS election conducted same time with Presidential election were being ed and transmitted successfully on realtime to INEC's iREV (result viewing online portal) on the election day but Presidential election own wasn't going through, which tells you there was something fishy.


Nobody expected INEC to transmit the raw figures counted from polling units, what we expected is the snapped polling unit results ed and transmitted to iREV direct from every polling unit as done in Osun state.



You can hack raw figure transmission but you cannot hack snapped picture of polling unit result which must be the original INEC result sheet from polling unit bearing the signatures of each party's polling unit agent; APC, LP, PDP, NNPP, others.



Hope you understand the difference now?

Okay. Since over 18 thousand ed results are blurred, how was he able to announce the winner?

BATified23:


😂 😂 😂
I won't even comment on the results he brought to court because if I ask you for the source of the result and proof that they are different from what INEC presented, wàhálà will start.

On Osun's case, you followed result but didn't follow the case. Read up on the verdict of the case over IREV, and come back here to tell me if Obi has a case

You don't seem to get it, Obi is not saying Tribunal should announce result based on what is on iREV.


Obi is insisting on the fact that the election results were altered during collation, reason for INEC's refusal to polling unit results direct from polling units on realtime on the election day as promised to Nigerians via several media platforms and channels.


To prove this, LP and Obi produced the original signed polling unit result sheets from all the states they are challenging the results for Tribunal to look at and judge. Some of the party agents signed polling unit results Obi presented to the tribunal were ed from iREV and they correspond with the results LP got on the election day from LP agents, which were also posted on several social media platforms and even captured by various media houses.



Let INEC produce the CTC of these polling unit result sheets with them and dispute what Obi has presented but INEC is refusing to do so, why? Because INEC is hiding the truth by just presenting their doctored final collation result instead of bringing out polling unit result CTC

hrykanu231:


Okay. Since over 18 thousand ed results are blurred, how was he able to announce the winner?

That is why LP have asked INEC to produce the CTC of polling unit results they used to do their final collation to announce Tinubu as winner, INEC refused, why? Ask INEC bro

franchasofficia:
Yakubu didn't back down on transmitting polling unit snapped result sheets, he only reiterated the fact that INEC won't be transmitting raw election figures like:


6,000,000
9,500,000
8,000,000


which can be hacked.


Check the screen shots you attached in your first post, it was clearly stated there too.



There is a difference between raw figures and snapped document. You can hack figure and change it, you cannot change snapped document because it is image not in figures. This is self explained bro

Now that we're even. Which of the links mentioned "real-time"?

franchasofficia:
You don't seem to get it, Obi is not saying Tribunal should announce result based on what is on iREV.


Obi is insisting on the fact that the election results were altered during collation, reason for INEC's refusal to polling unit results direct from polling units on realtime on the election day as promised to Nigerians via several media platforms and channels.


To prove this, LP and Obi produced the original signed polling unit result sheets from all the states they are challenging the results for Tribunal to look at and judge. Some of the party agents signed polling unit results Obi presented to the tribunal were ed from iREV and they correspond with the results LP got on the election day from LP agents, which were also posted on several social media platforms and even captured by various media houses.



Let INEC produce the CTC of these polling unit result sheets with them and dispute what Obi has presented but INEC is refusing to do so, why? Because INEC is hiding the truth by just presenting their doctored final collation result instead of bringing out polling unit result CTC

Where did INEC state in any of the links posted above that results will be posted real-time?

franchasofficia:
Yakubu didn't back down on transmitting polling unit snapped result sheets, he only reiterated the fact that INEC won't be transmitting raw election figures like:


6,000,000
9,500,000
8,000,000


which can be hacked.


Check the screen shots you attached in your first post, it was clearly stated there too.



There is a difference between raw figures and snapped document. You can hack figure and change it, you cannot changed snapped document because its image not in figures. This is self explained bro

I'm asking him what is raw figures of results, he's not answering me .

Going through the content of that news he posted, here's an excerpt from INEC chairman's speech ;

“After the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and ed into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level."

Basically, he's saying form EC8A will be taken by BVAS & ED into IREV,not just the raw figures of the form EC8A from the polling unit.

I still don't understand why they are claiming & interpreting that as results won't be taken by BVAS and ed into the IREV from the polling unit .

HERE'S ANOTHER EXCERPT FROM THE News link ;

He said Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap
election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.


After reading that excerpt,how is someone claiming that INEC chairman said results [ form EC8A] will no longer be taken by BVAS and ed into IREV ?

This is pretty straightforward.

BATified23:


Where did INEC state in any of the links posted above that results will be posted real-time?

INEC through INEC Chairman had repeatedly stated that snapped polling unit result sheets will be ed and transmitted realtime on the election day direct from polling units, he stated this even at Chatham house in United Kingdom to a global audience.



So what we are dealing with on this thread is INEC's statement of clarification, which has to do with raw figures of election result not being transmitted.

franchasofficia:
INEC through INEC Chairman had repeatedly stated that snapped polling unit result sheets will be ed and transmitted realtime on the election day direct from polling units, he stated this even at Chatham house in United Kingdom to a global audience.



So what we are dealing with on this thread is INEC's statement of clarification, which has to do with raw figures of election result not being transmitted.

This thread is about the publication of INEC on 23rd of February 2023. The last publication before the election. If you accept INEC changed its mind on transmitting raw data, why can't you accept INEC didn't mention realtime in the last publication?

BATified23:


Where did INEC state in any of the links posted above that results will be posted real-time?

I am quoting the same link you attached in your first post on this thread.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/02/polls-why-inec-wont-transmit-raw-election-figures-yakubu/


See the images I attached as screen shot from the link you yourself posted




Yakubu is a criminal, he collected bribe and rigged the election.

BATified23:
Many news outlets have the news and made it public on February 23rd, 2023 when INEC Chairman Mahmood Yakub stated that they will not be transmitting results. Check the news sources below to read the details yourself

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/02/polls-why-inec-wont-transmit-raw-election-figures-yakubu/

https://tribuneonlineng.com/we-wont-transmit-raw-figures-of-election-results-inec-chairman/

https://thenationonlineng.net/how-elections-will-be-transmitted-by-inec/

Images:
1. Excerpt from Tribune
2. Frontpage of Tribune on 23rd of February, 2023
3. Screenshot from Vanguard Link posted above

INEC is trying to confuse Nigerians but here is the thing.

On 23rd February Yakubu did announced that the commission will no longer transmit the result in real time on the IReV, but he specifically said that the polling units have the mandate to use the BVAS to the results on INEC portal.

real time transmission of results on the IRev is one thing
ing results on INEC portal is another .

The idea is that real time transmission during the collation of results at the national conference centre Abuju should be solely dependent on ing results on the INEC portal,so that even if the INEC chairman is collecting paper or printed forms from state levels to announce the winner, the figures will have to correspond with what was being ed or transmitted and there wouldn't have been any argument at all.

The least INEC would have done was to the results on it portal through the BVAS if they could not transmit, so that Nigerians will atleast view the results using their android phones and compare them with what was being announced.

But INEC did not not , neither did they transmit on that collation day. Rather, they resolved to some cooked fraudulent paper sheets brought from state levels

BATified23:


Now that we're even. Which of the links mentioned "real-time"?

No,you guys are NOT even.

Go to the modify lead in your initial comment when you created this post and update it that your initial understanding of the content of the news you posted is wrong & apologize to the audience for misleading them.

That's only when you can proceed with the claim that you both are on the same page,because right now, you're still on a different page.

You're basically still claiming INEC chairman said he's not going to transmit results again,which you even posted links to corroborate your claim.

And Franchasofficia is claiming that results from the polling unit [ form EC8A] will still be taken by BVAS and ed into the IREV,and not just raw figures of each party scores,which is exactly the interpretation of the news content.


Go apologize to your audience that you misinterpreted the content of that news,first and foremost.

IamV:


I'm asking him what is raw figures of results, he's not answering me .

Going through the content of that news he posted, here's an excerpt from INEC chairman's speech ;

“After the process is completed at the polling unit, the image of the polling unit result will be taken by the BVAS and ed into what we call the INEC Result Viewing Portal where citizens can see polling unit level results as the processes are completed at polling unit level."

Basically, he's saying form EC8A will be taken by BVAS & ED into IREV,not just the raw figures of the form EC8A from the polling unit.

I still don't understand why they are claiming & interpreting that as results won't be taken by BVAS and ed into the IREV from the polling unit .

HERE'S ANOTHER EXCERPT FROM THE News link ;

He said Presiding Officers has the mandate to use the Bimodal Voters Accreditation (BVAS) machine to snap
election results documented on the results sheet from each polling unit and the photo of the result on the INEC Result Viewing Portal (IRev) for anxious Nigerians to observe.


After reading that excerpt,how is someone claiming that INEC chairman said results [ form EC8A] will no longer be taken by BVAS and ed into IREV ?

This is pretty straightforward.

Good you've poured out your mind. Now where did INEC state results will be transmitted REAL-TIME in any of the Feb 23rd publications?

IamV:


No,you guys are NOT even.

Go to the modify lead in your initial comment when you created this post and update it that your initial understanding of the content of the news you posted is wrong & apologize to the audience for misleading them.

That's only when you can proceed with the claim that you both are on the same page,because right now, you're still on a different page.

You're basically still claiming INEC chairman said he's not going to transmit results again,which you even posted links to corroborate your claim.
And he is claiming that results from the polling unit [ form EC8A] will still be taken by BVAS and ed into the IREV,and not just raw figures of each party scores,which is exactly the interpretation of the news content.


Go apologize to your audience that you misinterpreted the content of that news,first and foremost.

Lmao, it's pretty simple. If we don't resolve the transmission together, we won't be able to argue on Real-Time. There was need to create a balance first so I'm waiting for your REAL-TIME proof

BATified23:


This thread is about the publication of INEC on 23rd of February 2023. The last publication before the election. If you accept INEC changed its mind on transmitting raw data, why can't you accept INEC didn't mention realtime in the last publication?

I am quoting the same link you attached in your first post on this thread.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/02/polls-why-inec-wont-transmit-raw-election-figures-yakubu/ (you shared this link yourself, go read the content yourself bro).


See the images I attached as screen shot from the link you yourself posted




Yakubu is a criminal, he collected bribe and rigged the election.

franchasofficia:
I am quoting the same link you attached in your first post on this thread.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/02/polls-why-inec-wont-transmit-raw-election-figures-yakubu/ (you shared this link yourself, go read the content yourself bro).


See the images I attached as screen shot from the link you yourself posted




Yakubu is a criminal, he collected bribe and rigged the election.

Show me the REAL-TIME. Where he mentioned REAL-TIME.

BATified23:




3rd Position will remain 3rd Position, that Re-run that Obi is seeking, he won't get.

Back to the topic, when did BVAS become a camera for snapping election results?

Simple research would have educated you that there is an inbuilt camera in the BVAS.

jamjo:




Simple research would have educated you that there is an inbuilt camera in the BVAS.

Read my question again...

BATified23:


Good you've poured out your mind. Now where did INEC state results will be transmitted REAL-TIME in any of the Feb 23rd publications?

I didn't pour out my mind,I gave you a factual interpretation of the content of the news links you posted.
First and foremost,go modify your first post when you created this thread to reflect the factual interpretation of the news link you posted ,and apologize to your audience for misleading them with false interpretation of the news content.

Only on that basis,will I proceed forward with answering your questions.

BATified23:


Lmao, it's pretty simple. If we don't resolve the transmission together, we won't be able to argue on Real-Time. There was need to create a balance first so I'm waiting for your REAL-TIME proof

Check the attached screen shot I got from the vanguard link you posted.

IamV:


I didn't pour out my mind,I gave you a factual interpretation of the content of the news links you posted.
First and foremost,go modify your first post when you created this thread to reflect the factual interpretation of the news link you posted ,and apologize to your audience for misleading them with false interpretation of the news content.

Only on that basis,will I proceed forward with answering your questions.

I thought you wanted to come here to drill me.

I'm still waiting for the Real-time proof. The point where Yakubu mentioned that results will be transmitted real-time!

BATified23:


Show me the REAL-TIME. Where he mentioned REAL-TIME.

This man like wahala trouble