NewStats: 3,259,429 , 8,170,068 topics. Date: Saturday, 24 May 2025 at 11:09 PM 5v251d

jedisco:


Again, you are cherrypicking and coming to undue conclusions. You are taking a relative rise in recent migrants to the UK and using that to drive a narrative. That's not how to handle data.

First, looking at modern migration, it has always tilted towards certain groups at different points in time. It's not down to some genetic quality hiding somewhere. What you're doing is taking a small subset from a short period and using it to make vast extrapolations. What happened to the period between 2012 and 2020? How many Nigerian students saw any future in the UK? Compare that to the number of PRs canada handed out despite the fact we have little historical affiliation to them. Getting into Canada would have been easier for me 6 years ago. Geeting a Canadian PR was also several levels easier than the UK ILR - migration is manytimes individualised.


Secondly you're making the error of correlating the relative increase in number of arrivals over the last few years to some undue benevolence. That's false equivalence. The reason you saw more people arrive was down to need and the political error around Brexit. That is why the populace and the political class increasingly see those arrivals as a generational error in need of fixing. Who is to say that if the time to ILR is made 10yrs today for them, some other government would not double it to 20? And you'd still come preach benevolence- afterall, they wouldn't have got in elsewhere.

Two issues here is that first, the Canadian system has over decades let in more people and secondly, the relatively rise in the number of immigrants into the UK recently is not due to British benevolence.

That’s always the problem with us, using a subset to always define the entire lot, a subset may abuse the system then it becomes the entire Nigerians abusing it or getting lucky but the subset that gets successful issions to Harvard or Cambridge can never define us, mumu people!

Phayie:
Why is nobody talking about the new UK-EU deal

Great deal especially for the young people, now all those talks of because of migrants we can’t get apprentice opportunities can now reduce as the entire Europe is now on their laps.

jedisco:


Again, you are cherrypicking and coming to undue conclusions. You are taking a relative rise in recent migrants to the UK and using that to drive a narrative. That's not how to handle data.

First, looking at modern migration, it has always tilted towards certain groups at different points in time. It's not down to some genetic quality hiding somewhere. What you're doing is taking a small subset from a short period and using it to make vast extrapolations. What happened to the period between 2012 and 2020? How many Nigerian students saw any future in the UK? Compare that to the number of PRs canada handed out despite the fact we have little historical affiliation to them. Getting into Canada would have been easier for me 6 years ago. Geeting a Canadian PR was also several levels easier than the UK ILR - migration is manytimes individualised.


Secondly you're making the error of correlating the relative increase in number of arrivals over the last few years to some undue benevolence. That's false equivalence. The reason you saw more people arrive was down to need and the political error around Brexit. That is why the populace and the political class increasingly see those arrivals as a generational error in need of fixing. Who is to say that if the time to ILR is made 10yrs today for them, some other government would not double it to 20? And you'd still come preach benevolence- afterall, they wouldn't have got in elsewhere.

Two issues here is that first, the Canadian system has over decades let in more people and secondly, the relatively rise in the number of immigrants into the UK recently is not due to British benevolence.

long long thing

The answers should be like
Based on the refusal/acceptance rates, No, the UK was not easier to enter or Yes, the UK was easier to enter.

You could also go a step further to say the US or Australia or Canada were easier to enter with 50% rejection rate. Na opinion wey you dey entitled to, but at least state your answer clearly. I stated mine clearly, you just typed up another long story without a particular position.

In fact, at least with that same warped logic, we can say Oxford University and Harvard are also easy to enter. Those that went to Teeside only chose to go for Teeside, not that they couldn't have gone to Harvard/Oxford/Yale

Lexusgs430:


SFS don dey manage my o...... 😂🤣

This our thread, is priceless...... 😆😂

Has anyone here tried a dollar fund? My main concern with naira-based funds is the ongoing depreciation of the currency. I'm close to setting up a dollar fund with Gtfundmanagers. Any advice on this will be appreciated.

brine:


Has anyone here tried a dollar fund? My main concern with naira-based funds is the ongoing depreciation of the currency. I'm close to setting up a dollar fund with Gtfundmanagers. Any advice on this will be appreciated.

Depreciation in the currency, would be a concern, only if you intend to convert Naira2Pounds...... If you intend to spend the naira...... Zero concerns..... 😁🤣

Rather than gtfunds, why not invest with Nutmeg/Blackrock/Moneyfarm......

Thanks Everyone for your advise and suggestions regarding my question.

I am now convinced and motivated to proceed with the mortgage now.

TouchOfSpice:

Hi Everyone.

Please i will like to seek your opinion , With the ongoing challenge regarding the proposed immigration policy,

Is now a good time for an immigrant currently on a Skilled work visa to consider buying a house (Prior to the release of the white paper, We had indicated interest in buying a house, our offer has been accepted and we have started the mortgage application process.

After the white paper release, I have started developing cold feet and reconsidering my deceision ,

What would you advise>

Thank you.

Treadway:
long long thing

The answers should be like
Based on the refusal/acceptance rates, No, the UK was not easier to enter or Yes, the UK was easier to enter.

You could also go a step further to say the US or Australia or Canada were easier to enter with 50% rejection rate. Na opinion wey you dey entitled to, but at least state your answer clearly. I stated mine clearly, you just typed up another long story without a particular position.

In fact, at least with that same warped logic, we can say Oxford University and Harvard are also easy to enter. Those that went to Teeside only chose to go for Teeside, not that they couldn't have gone to Harvard/Oxford/Yale

Dude, you’re hilarious and savage at the same time 😂

brine:


Has anyone here tried a dollar fund? My main concern with naira-based funds is the ongoing depreciation of the currency. I'm close to setting up a dollar fund with Gtfundmanagers. Any advice on this will be appreciated.

Nigeria's foreign exchange policy lacks stability. When you decide you want to liquidate your investment, you may be forced to receive Naira instead of Dollars at the bank's prevailing exchange rate.

Treadway:
long long thing

The answers should be like
Based on the refusal/acceptance rates, No, the UK was not easier to enter or Yes, the UK was easier to enter.

You could also go a step further to say the US or Australia or Canada were easier to enter with 50% rejection rate. Na opinion wey you dey entitled to, but at least state your answer clearly. I stated mine clearly, you just typed up another long story without a particular position.

In fact, at least with that same warped logic, we can say Oxford University and Harvard are also easy to enter.Those that went to Teeside only chose to go for Teeside, not that they couldn't have gone to Harvard/Oxford/Yale[/b]

You don't get it. They only went to Teeside because Teeside needed them. If Oxford Uni or UCL had needed them, they would easily have gone there too. It's the need that matters. 😂

Goke7:


Great deal especially for the young people, now all those talks of because of migrants we can’t get apprentice opportunities can now reduce as the entire Europe is now on their laps.

They still need apprenticeships and degree apprenticeships oh. The youth mobility scheme is fantastic but it can't replace certified, skilled learning and training.

Zahra29:


You don't get it. They only went to Teeside because Teeside needed them. If Oxford Uni or UCL had needed them, they would easily have gone there too. It's the need that matters. 😂

you got it.

So many of my friends could have gotten itted into OAU for Medicine and Surgery, afterall in the recent past with 220 Jamb score you fit study MBBS..they only studied botany cos it was what they wanted, and could have gotten ission for Medicine just as easily🤣🙃

Jamesclooney:


Dude, you’re hilarious and savage at the same time 😂

abi na🙃😁

Hey there: it will be fine, just bet on yourself

He saw the best in me
When everyone else around
Could only see the worst in me
I wish I had a witness tonight

I said he saw the best in me
(I guess someone will get this testimony)
When everyone else around me
Could only see the worst in me
Can I tell y'all one more time, one more time

I said he saw the best in me (yes)
When everyone else around me
Could only see the worst in me
I wish I had a witness tonight, all I need is one (yeah)

Hey, He saw the best in me
When everyone else around me
Could only see the worst in me
Does anybody have their testimony?

When folks wrote you off
Said you would never make it
What did he see?
He saw the best in me

Amid all the bruhaha surrounding the UK immigration system, one thing never to do is despair. , they own the system and so get to determine what your VALUE is to them. This is key. It is their VALUATION of your worth. The worst thing to do is try and argue with them to rethink that – washing a donkey’s head is a waste of water and soap. As an employer of labour, I determine who I employ based on what I determine their VALUE is. We may , interview and score. All that is USELESS. At the end of the day, the head of the department for which we are hiring gets to decide who he/she wants. I rarely override because you the manager will work with the person and give me the result I want. That is life.

The biggest bet you can make is on yourself. I may not VALUE you as much as you think you are worth, that is fine. What do you think you are worth? How do you create visibility to the world letting them know this is your VALUE?

A little over a year ago, we had completed the first phase of our current project and considering we were the smallest company amongst the 26 funded across the UK in the first phase, I was not confident that we could secure funding for the next phase. I recall having meetings with most of the other bigger companies pitching to sell them our idea if they will make us subcontractors. Imagine this – I was going to sell our idea to other people and help them build it simply because I VALUED us poorly. I assumed we stood no chance in securing follow-on funding – we were small and not viable as one funder had opined. Guess what, they all bounced me. One even told me that they were 3 years ahead of us and we should just hand them everything since it was certain we stood no chance against them. Another (a local council) told me to hurry up with our pitch as they had some other important things to do. Another told me they would think after the results were released. I was doing this because I needed to secure funds to ensure I could keep paying salaries across board and doing research. I figured we could secure £350k as a subcontractor in building our product for them!

As I write this, I feel like crying. The first phase was around £200k for which about 80% was funded by the government. For the second phase, the cost was over £1.4m for which the government would need to fund about 77%. Who would give our small business run by a black guy over £1m! to spend, and non-diluting? Guess what, we put together a humble team, submitted our bid and won! We won! The folks who felt they were 3 years ahead of us didn’t get funded for the second phase. Only 13 companies across the UK were funded and we were one of them! I recall receiving the email. I was out for a walk that evening and just around the corner I saw the email. I climbed the curb, read the email, saw we had won and literally knelt on the curb. I cried not because of anything but because God proved again that betting on oneself was always going to be bullish. I tell my wife every time we that spot that the day the council wants to do anything on that curb, I will pay anything just to have it preserved.

It's midnight and I’m reviewing the patent docs from our attorney before they submit our 3rd and 4th patents. I decide to peruse SharePoint to see what the business development team is doing. They need to complete our application and send over to one of the big 4 to review as part of our qualification process for a VLP. From thinking of securing £350k for survival, we were able to contract a major research company in the UK for over £260k beside other consultants and subcontractors. I didn’t even get to approve their first invoice of over £109k, the CFO did. That’s what betting on yourself can do.

We are a great force, but it only carries weight when it is in motion – this is why I have little respect for potential energy. We need to start thinking of creating the ecosystems that can allow us VALUE ourselves for what we are worth. , there is no superior human anywhere, only superior thinking.

Treadway:
long long thing

The answers should be like
Based on the refusal/acceptance rates, No, the UK was not easier to enter or Yes, the UK was easier to enter.

You could also go a step further to say the US or Australia or Canada were easier to enter with 50% rejection rate. Na opinion wey you dey entitled to, but at least state your answer clearly. I stated mine clearly, you just typed up another long story without a particular position.

In fact, at least with that same warped logic, we can say Oxford University and Harvard are also easy to enter. Those that went to Teeside only chose to go for Teeside, not that they couldn't have gone to Harvard/Oxford/Yale

Again, you do not cherrypick a 2-3year period out of decades to describe an immigration system - a period nation the nation sees as a mistake and is looking to punitively correct. It's like describing a rapist as being kind cos they gave their victim tfare.

No need belabouring this- these things boil down to perception. I agree with you. As per your initial post. UK was so easy they were even paying folks to come study here. Those who came here should thank their stars and accept whatever - they'd have been living on trees otherwise.

Please can I get my yellow vaccine card at the airport and travel same day? I'm using Egypt air

directonpc:

I got it for 6k at the airport in Abuja. Try to Google and ask around before you travel. Or be at the airport like 5 hours before your trip.

Did they backdate the card? I heard it can't be less than 10days old

That girl from the department, would probably be the first, to receive her P45....... 🤣😁😂

Lexusgs430:
That girl from the department, would probably be the first, to receive her P45....... 🤣😁😂

Lol. While Big Ange is busily getting ready for action.

Hello house. Does anyone have s in Abuja that can assist in doing a birth certificate at the National Population Commision please?
Many thanks.

Fingers crossed, this should make some people happy.

https://news.sky.com/story/net-migration-halves-in-uk-new-data-shows-13372514

Raalsalghul:
Fingers crossed, this should make some people happy.

https://news.sky.com/story/net-migration-halves-in-uk-new-data-shows-13372514

Aunty kemi does not think so o, she says it’s still too high!

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Goke7:


That’s where the issue is, folks don’t really enjoy the reward of their labour and the so called free healthcare and other perks don’t really compensate for the huge chunk of taxes. It’s also the reason many prefer to rely on benefits than to work themselves out for others to benefit from their huge taxes

I believe strongly that they do.

People literally die in the US due to not having money to pay for medication. The UK is great in that respect, especially compared to a place like the US.

And it's not just healthcare, also security, public transport, public amenities etc.

I do agree that people being too quick to become dependent on benefits is a problem, but that's a separate issue - the threshholds need to be higher so only people who actually need them can get them.

Goodenoch:


I believe strongly that they do.

People literally die in the US due to not having money to pay for medication. The UK is great in that respect, especially compared to a place like the US.

And it's not just healthcare, also security, public transport, public amenities etc.

I do agree that people being too quick to become dependent on benefits is a problem, but that's a separate issue - the threshholds need to be higher so only people who actually need them can get them.

Couldn’t have said it better, the fact that you get treated first despite your immigration status is a huge plus for me. You can not put a price tag on the value of the healthcare system here.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/727360

Akorkor:
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/727360

This petition is probably not required..... Simply because the proposed changes, would ONLY be applicable to new applications (assuming law is ed)...... 😊😁

Lexusgs430:



This petition is probably not required..... Simply because the proposed changes, would ONLY be applicable to new applications (assuming law is ed)...... 😊😁

I just hope they didn't implement that yeye proposals