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dannytoe:

You haven spoken well.
But as Nigerian you really can't be comparing yourself with a brit working as an expatriate in those countries earning more than he/she would ordinary make in Britain.
The comparison is unbalanced.
Reason being the brit is born with a first world port that alone has many Benefits beyond the reach of an average Nigerian with a green port .

But when you get your port, of course you can travel relocate to anywhere you desire and become the Brit that working far from home earning higher.

Did you really type that?

Treadway:
but it's true.

The UK was super porous and super easy to enter, just about anyone who could arrange POF did...anyone. They didn't even need to actually have the money...third class sef enter🤣

The ratio of people that came in with a skilled work visa vs those who came with a student visa would be like ratio 1:100

Canada on the other hand only just introduced the tech, healthcare and other draws in 2023/2024, including the recent caregiver pilot which both Nigerians and UK based Nigerians who have those specific experiences/qualifications are now using and benefiting from. Prior to those updates/specific draws, they wouldn't have stood half a chance....cos they would have to be young, with masters and have high ielts and tef/tcf scores...How many of the folks who flooded the UK even wrote ordinary IELTS? Lol

Make we no dey fear to talk the simple truth jare. Dem no see Canada, US or Aussie before dem choose the 'far easier' UK

Are you aware that lot of folks who came into the uk then were also in the Canadian pool waiting for their ITA which was delayed due to Covid? Why are we lumping everyone together as if many were not initially qualified, do you have the data? Provide if you have and not base on assumptions. One thing I have observed is when there is a surge of immigrants, we begin to dismiss the entry criteria. Do you know the amount of Nigerians that have immigrated legally into the US in the last three years? Will you say the US too became porous with eb2, and 01 visas? Check the stats Nigerians were in the top 5-10. The increasing number of Nigerians attaining citizenship in Canada in the last five years decimates all these narratives of easier entry or porous borders nonsense

Goke7:


Are you aware that lot of folks who came into the uk then were also in the Canadian pool waiting for their ITA which was delayed due to Covid? Why are we lumping everyone together as if many were not initially qualified, do you have the data? Provide if you have and not base on assumptions. One thing I have observed is when there is a surge of immigrants, we begin to dismiss the entry criteria. Do you know the amount of Nigerians that have immigrated legally into the US in the last three years? Will you say the US too became porous with eb2, and 01 visas? Check the stats Nigerians were in the top 5-10. The increasing number of Nigerians attaining citizenship in Canada in the last five years decimates all these narratives of easier entry or porous borders nonsense

lol. Yea right.

You look down on your fellow citizens simply because you are probably in a better place regarding your career or life goals, and this attitude is unfortunately common among Nigerians. Before Canada imposed new restrictions on community colleges, individuals with third-class degrees were still able to find opportunities there. Having a third-class degree doesn’t necessarily mean you lack knowledge in your field of study, it is possible to supplement your qualifications with relevant work experience.

I can assure you that many Nigerians can successfully take and the IELTS, TOEFL, or CELPIP exams. It’s already challenging enough to face judgment as Nigerians from outsiders; belittling ourselves only makes the situation worse. Are you aware that many on care visas or PSWs have left the UK for the US, Canada, or Australia? Do you know how many are considering leaving?

Regarding Australia, its distant location and expensive tuition fees might deter many people from Africa from considering it a viable option.

When it comes to the USA, obtaining a visa often feels like a game of chance. I’ve seen individuals receive a US visa and wondered how they managed to do so.

I’m not suggesting that there haven’t been instances of abuse in the system, but I am certain that this issue isn’t limited to Nigerians; they are simply more vocal about it. The UK is not “far easier” to navigate; it is just more straightforward. You can do everything right with other countries and still be denied a visa, which is not the case for the UK.

Treadway:
but it's true.

The UK was super porous and super easy to enter, just about anyone who could arrange POF did...anyone. They didn't even need to actually have the money...third class sef enter🤣

The ratio of people that came in with a skilled work visa vs those who came with a student visa would be like ratio 1:100

Canada on the other hand only just introduced the tech, healthcare and other draws in 2023/2024, including the recent caregiver pilot which both Nigerians and UK based Nigerians who have those specific experiences/qualifications are now using and benefiting from. Prior to those updates/specific draws, they wouldn't have stood half a chance....cos they would have to be young, with masters and have high ielts and tef/tcf scores...How many of the folks who flooded the UK even wrote ordinary IELTS? Lol

Make we no dey fear to talk the simple truth jare. Dem no see Canada, US or Aussie before dem choose the 'far easier' UK

I wish I could unread that clueless comment.

Goke7:


Are you aware that lot of folks who came into the uk then were also in the Canadian pool waiting for their ITA which was delayed due to Covid? Why are we lumping everyone together as if many were not initially qualified, do you have the data? Provide if you have and not base on assumptions. One thing I have observed is when there is a surge of immigrants, we begin to dismiss the entry criteria. Do you know the amount of Nigerians that have immigrated legally into the US in the last three years? Will you say the US too became porous with eb2, and 01 visas? Check the stats Nigerians were in the top 5-10. The increasing number of Nigerians attaining citizenship in Canada in the last five years decimates all these narratives of easier entry or porous borders nonsense

OgbeniOptional:
You look down on your fellow citizens simply because you are probably in a better place regarding your career or life goals, and this attitude is unfortunately common among Nigerians. Before Canada imposed new restrictions on community colleges, individuals with third-class degrees were still able to find opportunities there. Having a third-class degree doesn’t necessarily mean you lack knowledge in your field of study, it is possible to supplement your qualifications with relevant work experience.

I can assure you that many Nigerians can successfully take and the IELTS, TOEFL, or CELPIP exams. It’s already challenging enough to face judgment as Nigerians from outsiders; belittling ourselves only makes the situation worse. Are you aware that many on care visas or PSWs have left the UK for the US, Canada, or Australia? Do you know how many are considering leaving?

Regarding Australia, its distant location and expensive tuition fees might deter many people from Africa from considering it a viable option.

When it comes to the USA, obtaining a visa often feels like a game of chance. I’ve seen individuals receive a US visa and wondered how they managed to do so.

I’m not suggesting that there haven’t been instances of abuse in the system, but I am certain that this issue isn’t limited to Nigerians; they are simply more vocal about it. The UK is not “far easier” to navigate; it is just more straightforward. You can do everything right with other countries and still be denied a visa, which is not the case for the UK.

Once there's a surge of Nigerians anywhere some people will just conclude that the system has been abused forgetting we are a people with one of the highest number of degree holders in the world. That's how they also conclude we don't read too. Lots of Nigerians are in the uk through the global talent route (tech, academic research and fashion) am sure very soon they will say that has been abused too. Am sure the global talent route guys won't have qualified for Canada too in their own eyes. Utter rubbish

Goke7:


Once there's a surge of Nigerians anywhere some people will just conclude that the system has been abused forgetting we are a people with one of the highest number of degree holders in the world. That's how they also conclude we don't read too. Lots of Nigerians are in the uk through the global talent route (tech, academic research and fashion) am sure very soon they will say that has been abused too. Am sure the global talent route guys won't have qualified for Canada too in their own eyes. Utter rubbish

Totally agree with almost everything you said here except the abuse part, Nigerians and Indians most especially abused the system in a massive scale through student visa and COS and the government allows this to go on for years, unfortunately genuine Nigerians are affected.

It became normal for people to buy bank statements from agents so as to get a visa, people coming in with fake marriage certificates etc

Some Nigerians turned the abuse to full time business, they are in TikTok, facebook instagram unashamedly advertising it.

justwise:


Totally agree with almost everything you said here except the abuse part, Nigerians and Indians most especially abused the system in a massive scale through student visa and COS and the government allows this to go on for years, unfortunately genuine Nigerians are affected.

It became normal for people to buy bank statements from agents so as to get a visa, people coming in with fake marriage certificates etc

Some Nigerians turned the abuse to full time business, they are in TikTok, facebook instagram unashamedly advertising it.

The abuse was not the original bone of contention here but the notion that Nigerians were never qualified for certain categories of visas was the bone of contention. It was as if the abuse was the major reason Nigerians could get uk visas easily compared to other countries and that’s never true.

OgbeniOptional:
You look down on your fellow citizens simply because you are probably in a better place regarding your career or life goals, and this attitude is unfortunately common among Nigerians. Before Canada imposed new restrictions on community colleges, individuals with third-class degrees were still able to find opportunities there. Having a third-class degree doesn’t necessarily mean you lack knowledge in your field of study, it is possible to supplement your qualifications with relevant work experience.

I can assure you that many Nigerians can successfully take and the IELTS, TOEFL, or CELPIP exams. It’s already challenging enough to face judgment as Nigerians from outsiders; belittling ourselves only makes the situation worse. Are you aware that many on care visas or PSWs have left the UK for the US, Canada, or Australia? Do you know how many are considering leaving?

Regarding Australia, its distant location and expensive tuition fees might deter many people from Africa from considering it a viable option.

When it comes to the USA, obtaining a visa often feels like a game of chance. I’ve seen individuals receive a US visa and wondered how they managed to do so.

I’m not suggesting that there haven’t been instances of abuse in the system, but I am certain that this issue isn’t limited to Nigerians; they are simply more vocal about it. The UK is not “far easier” to navigate; it is just more straightforward. You can do everything right with other countries and still be denied a visa, which is not the case for the UK.

again, much ado about nothing.

This is not me looking down on anyone, or talking about the abuse. No twist simple sturvs.

This is me saying emphatically that the UK was EVIDENTLY the easiest place to emigrate to in the west, compared to the other countries and a huge chunk of those who emigrated would not have stood half a chance with other 'desirable' countries, hence the decision to go with the far easier UK. Virtually had a 100% success rate, just get CAS from any school, and arrange POF and you and your family don enter. Argue all you want, it doesn't change this truth/fact. Again how many even wrote or needed to just one hurdle of getting good IELTS grades to get in. There were absolutely no barriers, none! Get CAS and pack your family enter simple. That wasn't the case with other countries.

Goke7:


The abuse was not the original bone of contention here but the notion that Nigerians were never qualified for certain categories of visas was the bone of contention. It was as if the abuse was the major reason Nigerians could get uk visas easily compared to other countries and that’s the simple never truth.

fixed

Goke7:


The abuse was not the original bone of contention here but the notion that Nigerians were never qualified for certain categories of visas was the bone of contention. It was as if the abuse was the major reason Nigerians could get uk visas easily compared to other countries and that’s never true.

I'm just wondering why some of you are wasting your time engaging in such pointless argument.

dannytoe:

I have said it before that it's better to get the port before talking about leaving the country for uncertainty because of immigration change, except the new country offers pr on arrival.
But don't forget, everybody's opinion differ.
Some people may not care about the port as far they can make investments back home for themselves they're fine.

Lol, yes some nigerians spent alot coming to the Uk.
Especially those that came on student visas without dependent from 2022 till now.
But i can tell you many that came 2020-2022 with dependents spent a fraction of what people have to spending today to come to the Uk.
Many came here with dependent that worked and paid all their tuition.
Today you can't do any of these anymore, all these route have been closed.
i know someone who didn't spend more than 3m relocating to the Uk in 2023 via the care route.
So if such a person get investments back home and manage to save enough. You think they can't come back because you assume everyone who relocated to the UK spent close to 50m doing so??

I have said it before and would say it again. People have their various reasons for embarking on their Japa Journey. So your motivation might now be same as the other mans motivation. Hence the prescription for returning back to Nigeria would not be same silver bullet for everybody.

Migration has always been the lowest hanging fruit most government pounce on in times of economic downturn, Nigeria even did it in the late 70s/80s with the Ghana must go debacle, As some one posted earlier it even dates back bibilical times. What I have always known when I embarked on my journey is that it might not be a straight line walk, one thing that helps sometimes is elevating ones skill level through the journey so one can add value where ever one is. Even that in its self is not easy as most migrant in the first phase battle with a lot of challenges and tend to put the this in the back burner. I would say we should have all pragmatic approach to this journey, call out what ever government make unreasonable changes to their earlier planned policies but that they no send us in the first place (annoying but true). They would do what they think is best for them, you should do the same. Have a strategy that puts you and your family in the best position even if there are changes in policy and make one eligible for plan B or C if it so happens like that. And if the plan has always been to go back to Nigeria, work towards going back comfortable from Day 1. Abeg make una share good plan B & C options ooh. Me I don share EB2- NIW route. Make una share una own make we dey archive am. God go help us for this our waka

Goke7:


😂 What are you saying? A Nigerian with his green port working in the Uk on a skilled worker visa with his Uk experience now get a job offer in the US or Australia which qualifies him for an h1b or work visa, you think will earn less than a Brit doing same job in those countries? haba, again where is this coming from?

Lol, it seems you misunderstood me.
I don't mean that a Nigerian can't compete with a brit while working abroad, or that the Nigerian will be paid less than the brit.
In fact to think of such would be inferiority complex and self inflicted racism.
The British port gives visa free access to 152 countries thats a soft landing for an average a brit. Making traveling, exploration and even migrating easier for them.
Compare that to the average Nigerian with a skilled worker visa and a green port. having that green port alone has put you automatically at a disadvantage, as you have many stringent conditions and requirements to fulfill before getting visit visa to such countries. The case is far worse for those back home living on minimum wage with the green port, your chances of getting a US or Canadian visit visa is low.

Or is it the popular YouTuber? "Tayo Aina", Who wanted to visit many countries, explore and grow his career? But guess what? Like i said previously, the green port put him at auto-disadvantage where he got several visa rejections forcing him to acquire a second port for $150k.
So having a skilled worker visa isn't a guarantee of being out of the woods yet.
Let me give you one last example how an average Brit maybe able to migrate easily to another first world country than an average Nigerian.

I have a friend in Nigeria, his a nurse who wanted to migrate to Canada he started his Canadian licensing process from Nigeria and got to the stage where he needed to travel to Canada and set for his licensing exam. He even got an offer with a company in Canada willing to sponsor his work permit to Canada but he needed to get the Canadian licence before the company could proceed filing.
Bro applied for a Canadian visit visa submitted all necessary documents and evidence of invitation to write the exam. Behold, he was rejected swiftly citing homes ties , Lol the usual smoke screen from the Canadian embassy.
This is someone with extensive experience working with a state government hospital facility.
Now let's compare that to a British nurse working with the Nhs and wants to migrate to Canada.
Infact he/she wouldn't even need to apply for a visa to visit Canada and write such exam. Because the British port gives free access to Canada for visit without needing a visa.

So when it come to traveling, exploring and migrating to a new country those with a first world port are already one step ahead.
No more unnecessary talk.
I'm done explaining.

dannytoe:

You haven spoken well.
But as Nigerian you really can't be comparing yourself with a brit working as an expatriate in those countries earning more than he/she would ordinary make in Britain.
The comparison is unbalanced.
Reason being the brit is born with a first world port that alone has many Benefits beyond the reach of an average Nigerian with a green port .

But when you get your port, of course you can travel relocate to anywhere you desire and become the Brit that working far from home earning higher.

Hehe... I think I get where you're anchoring your point from but my issue with most of these discussions has been the mentality. If a man thinks he can't do well because he's somewhat inferior, then the issue is not with his capability but his psyche. I'm not in the habit of comparison but I find the first paragraph depressing -reason why I keep saying travelling is education. You'd benefit from exploring more nations. But let me ask, why do you think the comparison is unbalanced?

You make a point about staying back for the port which holds some water. No need beating around the bush. I'd give you personal examples.

1. One of my friends in the UK was a vet. Was sponsored for work here. He got a research role in Quebec (a French speaking part of Canada) and he doesn’t speak French by the way. He left after 18 months in the UK. Last time we spoke- no complaints.

2. A few years back when I completed my training in the UK, it took me at least 3 weeks of consulting and deliberating to decide on staying back for the extra 2yrs it'd take to get the port. Main reason was that I now had family here and was developing a sentimental attachment. The funny thing is that most people I asked in Canada told me to forget about the port and come over, those on this side said wait for it. I know at least 3 colleagues who did not think staying back for the port was worth it and some left on a visa and visited soon after to sell their houses. Afterall, you only need one strong port they said. None has regretted that decision. I can absolutely guarantee that if it was a 10yr wait, I would have left without a second thought.

3. Most nigerian care workers are degree holders. I have even met a lecturer who works as a carer. Are you telling me that if they are offered professional or better paying role in other countries they should all let the opportunity because they are waiting for a port?

The bottomline is that these are highly individualised and people are able to make calculated decisions. Being abroad helps widen peoples scope and avails folks wider opportunities.

Treadway:
again, much ado about nothing.

This is not me looking down on anyone, or talking about the abuse. No twist simple sturvs.

This is me saying emphatically that the UK was EVIDENTLY the easiest place to emigrate to in the west, compared to the other countries and a huge chunk of those who emigrated would not have stood half a chance with other 'desirable' countries, hence the decision to go with the far easier UK. Virtually had a 100% success rate, just get CAS from any school, and arrange POF and you and your family don enter. Argue all you want, it doesn't change this truth/fact. Again how many even wrote or needed to just one hurdle of getting good IELTS grades to get in. There were absolutely no barriers, none! Get CAS and pack your family enter simple. That wasn't the case with other countries.

The UK Tory Government under Boris Johnson opened the floodgates for immigrants to come in easily because they needed the people this was just after Covid and BREXIT. It never used to be that easy. Boris brought in 2 years post study visa and all that bringing dependant thingy to make it even more attractive for foreign students. They loosing the immigration rules when they need people and tighten it when they are done. The US were dishing out Visas in the early 2000s to the Obama era. I knew a lot of people who came to US on visit visas that are not Citizens there now. People will always abuse it once them open road!

jedisco:


Hehe... I think I get where you're anchoring your point from but my issue with most of these discussions has been the mentality. If a man thinks he can't do well because he's somewhat inferior, then the issue is not with his capability but his psyche. I'm not in the habit of comparison but I find the first paragraph depressing -reason why I keep saying travelling is education. You'd benefit from exploring more nations. But let me ask, why do you think the comparison is unbalanced?

You make a point about staying back for the port which holds some water. No need beating around the bush. I'd give you personal examples.

1. One of my friends in the UK was a vet. Was sponsored for work here. He got a research role in Quebec (a French speaking part of Canada) and he doesn’t speak French by the way. He left after 18 months in the UK. Last time we spoke- no complaints.

2. A few years back when I completed my training in the UK, it took me at least 3 weeks of consulting and deliberating to decide on staying back for the extra 2yrs it'd take to get the port. Main reason was that I now had family here and was developing a sentimental attachment. The funny thing is that most people I asked in Canada told me to forget about the port and come over, those on this side said wait for it. I know at least 3 colleagues who did not think staying back for the port was worth it and some left on a visa and visited soon after to sell their houses. Afterall, you only need one strong port they said. None has regretted that decision. I can absolutely guarantee that if it was a 10yr wait, I would have left without a second thought.

3. Most nigerian care workers are degree holders. I have even met a lecturer who works as a carer. Are you telling me that if they are offered professional or better paying role in other countries they should all let the opportunity because they are waiting for a port?

The bottomline is that these are highly individualised and people are able to make calculated decisions. Being abroad helps widen peoples scope and avails folks wider opportunities.

I guess the way i wrote previously, may have paint my expression in a wrong way.
Nevertheless you have spoken.

You see when it come to immigration i have come to realise nothing really fit it all for everyone.
There's always one sacrifice to be made depending on your appetite for a better quality of life and living standard.
For example those with many kids, a family and house may find it more challenging having to change country once again compared to singles who maybe better at adapting to the huddles of changing to a new country.

Like i have said before, nothing really cuts it all for everyone.
What ever pathway anyone chooses let's be sure it leads to pr or citizenship rather than uncertainty.

justwise:


Then they are providing a solution for a non-existing problem, the whole out cry about immigration numbers was mainly about the number of people that came in through care and student visa, The govt will not train the young people to work in care sector or fill in the spaces in universities created by shortage of foreign students.

This govt turned the blind eye while they Rake in millions in visa and COS fees, thousands came in with little or no check, settle down then they are hit with this harsh immigration policy.

Give it 2yrs this same shameless govt will start singing another tune

There's blame on both sides. I always knew that it would come to a head and unfortunately as is usually the way, the innocent ones are also caught up in the backlash.

This is how I see the govt managing shortages going forward:

- Leisure and hospitality: EU youth mobility scheme which sounds very likely to go ahead (great news!) and will allow EU young people live and work in the UK for 2 years, and vice versa British youths the same opportunity.

- Care sector - in the short/medium term migrants already in the country (gov has estimated that there are up to 35,000 displaced care workers who are looking for new sponsors).

In the medium/long term, if there is an acute shortage, care workers will be recruited from overseas on a temporary work visa which can possibly be extended but will not provide a route to settlement (unless the holder switches to another visa route)

- Construction - temporary visas which will not lead to settlement

- RFQ5 and below - No sponsorship. Businesses expected to recruit and train domestically, apprenticeships etc

- RFQ6 and above - Stricter skilled worker visas (higher salary thresholds, English tests etc). Some roles on 10yr route to settlement, others will be fast tracked.

justwise:


Totally agree with almost everything you said here except the abuse part, Nigerians and Indians most especially abused the system in a massive scale through student visa and COS and the government allows this to go on for years, unfortunately genuine Nigerians are affected.

It became normal for people to buy bank statements from agents so as to get a visa, people coming in with fake marriage certificates etc

Some Nigerians turned the abuse to full time business, they are in TikTok, facebook instagram unashamedly advertising it.

Lol they were plenty 😂 Add Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to the group chat.

Treadway:
but it's true.

The UK was super porous and super easy to enter, just about anyone who could arrange POF did...anyone. They didn't even need to actually have the money...third class sef enter🤣

The ratio of people that came in with a skilled work visa vs those who came with a student visa would be like ratio 1:100

Canada on the other hand only just introduced the tech, healthcare and other draws in 2023/2024, including the recent caregiver pilot which both Nigerians and UK based Nigerians who have those specific experiences/qualifications are now using and benefiting from. Prior to those updates/specific draws, they wouldn't have stood half a chance....cos they would have to be young, with masters and have high ielts and tef/tcf scores...How many of the folks who flooded the UK even wrote ordinary IELTS? Lol

Make we no dey fear to talk the simple truth jare. Dem no see Canada, US or Aussie before dem choose the 'far easier' UK

You have it wrong here. Also, easy with the exaggeration, you know these numbers are publicly available.

All factors considered, the UK is several magnitudes more difficult to settle in than Canada.

The issue here is thst people keep comparing apples and oranges. First, migration to the west is based on need not want. So if a nation needs a particular skill and opens their borders for that, you can't then use just that make general claims on their overall migration policy. I will not get into a migration pathway that needs carpenters...

When I considered leaving Nigeria- of the 3 countries I gave thought to (Canada, U.K and Saudi), UK was the most tedious to get into. I shared here how a lady ed me and offered to partly foot the bill plus POF if I agreed to body with her (for purposes of migration). I know many colleagues who went the Canada route and this was even before covid.


Its good you mentioned Canada which has a population of 40million as against UKs 67
Forget anecdotes, lets review numbers.

-About 7% of Canada's population are temporary residents. What's it in the UK?

-Look at UKs ILR numbers then compare that to canada which has been consistently more than double that of the UK. Last year they issued 485k. The UK wants to upend its system at the propect of issuing a few more.
-Even with students- until recently, college students in Canada were allowed to bring dependents. Till now, masters students are still allowed.
-This is not even counting citizenship by birth or the ability to sponsor parents or grandparents (recently paused)

Let me ask, where do all the entrants going to Canada come from? Abi they have 2 heads?

There are large areas you get into in Canada and see the number of people with little command of English and it becomes obvious the UK wouldn't have let them in.
Fact is people move in groups and with many things, theres a positive loop- the more people go, the more others are likely to . This largely s for the number of Indians in Canada- it's not the number of heads

justwise:


I'm just wondering why some of you are wasting your time engaging in such pointless argument.

Is it not when people here are encouraged to consider other options that some folks here will come up and remind everyone that Nigerians are not qualified? The uk doesn't want people to stay but it becomes headache to some folks here for them to try other options but are happy to see uk drive folks away. Which kind of devilish attitude is this?

jedisco:


Hehe... I think I get where you're anchoring your point from but my issue with most of these discussions has been the mentality. If a man thinks he can't do well because he's somewhat inferior, then the issue is not with his capability but his psyche. I'm not in the habit of comparison but I find the first paragraph depressing -reason why I keep saying travelling is education. You'd benefit from exploring more nations. But let me ask, why do you think the comparison is unbalanced?

You make a point about staying back for the port which holds some water. No need beating around the bush. I'd give you personal examples.

1. One of my friends in the UK was a vet. Was sponsored for work here. He got a research role in Quebec (a French speaking part of Canada) and he doesn’t speak French by the way. He left after 18 months in the UK. Last time we spoke- no complaints.

2. A few years back when I completed my training in the UK, it took me at least 3 weeks of consulting and deliberating to decide on staying back for the extra 2yrs it'd take to get the port. Main reason was that I now had family here and was developing a sentimental attachment. The funny thing is that most people I asked in Canada told me to forget about the port and come over, those on this side said wait for it. I know at least 3 colleagues who did not think staying back for the port was worth it and some left on a visa and visited soon after to sell their houses. Afterall, you only need one strong port they said. None has regretted that decision. I can absolutely guarantee that if it was a 10yr wait, I would have left without a second thought.

3. Most nigerian care workers are degree holders. I have even met a lecturer who works as a carer. Are you telling me that if they are offered professional or better paying role in other countries they should all let the opportunity because they are waiting for a port?

The bottomline is that these are highly individualised and people are able to make calculated decisions. Being abroad helps widen peoples scope and avails folks wider opportunities.

They are not qualified as far as they are concerned. May God heal our people of bad belle. It has become a pandemic.

emmyclassic:
The UK Tory Government under Boris Johnson opened the floodgates for immigrants to come in easily because they needed the people this was just after Covid and BREXIT. It never used to be that easy. Boris brought in 2 years post study visa and all that bringing dependant thingy to make it even more attractive for foreign students. They loosing the immigration rules when they need people and tighten it when they are done. The US were dishing out Visas in the early 2000s to the Obama era. I knew a lot of people who came to US on visit visas that are not Citizens there now. People will always abuse it once them open road!

I know. We're talking about a comparison of 2019-2024 UK immigration ease vs same period and even till now for other western countries. Enough people with ission, money paid and good IELTS scores still were denied Canadian/US student visa o...na publicly available info. Where you read say during Boriswave any UK student visa was denied? I haven't read one single case of that here on nairaland, neither do I know anybody personally who was denied....just one. But peeps don't want to agree that it was way way easier for some unfathomable reason. No be today I don dey see cognitive dissonance on display here, so not really shocked/surprised

Na express entry prior to the category based draws with crs scores of 500 and above dem qualify for, I hear una. Person wey get two masters with band 8.5 and tcf sef still dey hope say e go make cut-off, na that one Una dey say dey same as person wey get CAS, arrange POF and enter UK all within 3months or less. Lol.. laughable

jedisco:


You have it wrong here. Also, easy with the exaggeration, you know these numbers are publicly available.

All factors considered, the UK is several magnitudes more difficult to settle in than Canada.

The issue here is thst people keep comparing apples and oranges. First, migration to the west is based on need not want. So if a nation needs a particular skill and opens their borders for that, you can't then use just that make general claims on their overall migration policy. I will not get into a migration pathway that needs carpenters...

When I considered leaving Nigeria- of the 3 countries I gave thought to (Canada, U.K and Saudi), UK was the most tedious to get into. I shared here how a lady ed me and offered to partly foot the bill plus POF if I agreed to body with her (for purposes of migration). I know many colleagues who went the Canada route and this was even before covid.


Its good you mentioned Canada which has a population of 40million as against UKs 67
Forget anecdotes, lets review numbers.

-About 7% of Canada's population are temporary residents. What's it in the UK?

-Look at UKs ILR numbers then compare that to canada which has been consistently more than double that of the UK. Last year they issued 485k. The UK wants to upend its system at the propect of issuing a few more.
-Even with students- until recently, college students in Canada were allowed to bring dependents. Till now, masters students are still allowed.
-This is not even counting citizenship by birth or the ability to sponsor parents or grandparents (recently paused)

Let me ask, where do all the entrants going to Canada come from? Abi they have 2 heads?

There are large areas you get into in Canada and see the number of people with little command of English and it becomes obvious the UK wouldn't have let them in.
Fact is people move in groups and with many things, theres a positive loop- the more people go, the more others are likely to . This largely s for the number of Indians in Canada- it's not the number of heads

Jedi, all this one no necesstri.

Again, no need to add all these jara. I'm not talking about ease of integration. I said and I repeat, IT WAS SUPER DUPER EASIER TO ENTER THE UK COMPARED TO OTHER WESTERN NATIONS DURING THE PERIOD IN REVIEW AND MAJORITY OF THOSE WHO TOOK ADVANTAGE DID SO ON THE BASIS OF THIS AND ALSO AS THEY WOULDN'T HAVE STOOD MUCH OF A CHANCE ELSEWHERE DURING THE PERIOD IN REVIEW.

I'm not talking about you or outliers...I'm talking about the overwhelming majority of cases...


Note: I intentionally chose to use overwhelming and majority together for prime emphasis

Zahra29:


Lol they were plenty 😂 Add Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to the group chat.

Thank you for this very necessary correction, Zahra.
For this, all else is forgiven.

Zahra29:


Lol they were plenty 😂 Add Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to the group chat.

lol what is Zimbabwe doing there? In relatively small scale..i can see why Sri lanka and Bangladesh should be on the list

Treadway:
I know. We're talking about a comparison of 2019-2024 UK immigration ease vs same period and even till now for other western countries. Enough people with ission, money paid and good IELTS scores still were denied Canadian/US student visa o...na publicly available info. Where you read say during Boriswave any UK student visa was denied? I haven't read one single case of that here on nairaland, neither do I know anybody personally who was denied....just one. But peeps don't want to agree that it was way way easier for some unfathomable reason. No be today I don dey see cognitive dissonance on display here, so not really shocked/surprised

Na express entry prior to the category based draws with crs scores of 500 and above dem qualify for, I hear una. Person wey get two masters with band 8.5 and tcf sef still dey hope say e go make cut-off, na that one Una dey say dey same as person wey get CAS, arrange POF and enter UK all within 3months or less. Lol.. laughable

Yes I agree with what you are saying. The UK know it’s not easy to remain in their country illegally as it’s almost impossible to live a sensible life there without claiming asylum or running out when you can’t legalise your stay, as the system is made to frustrate you without papers/sponsorship after your education. In EU/US it can be easy to hide under the radar and do normal every day stuff.

Goke7:


Is it not when people here are encouraged to consider other options that some folks here will come up and remind everyone that Nigerians are not qualified? The uk doesn't want people to stay but it becomes headache to some folks here for them to try other options but are happy to see uk drive folks away. Which kind of devilish attitude is this?

You really have time to listen to such nonsense. It takes far too long to get Canadian visa, many will be waiting for decision on their visa applications for 6months up while the UK makes that decision within 3months or less. A good number of Nigerians move from the UK to Canada because decision making on visa application is faster.

I don't see a lot of Nigerians packing their stuff and leave for Nigeria because of this policy, many will definitely stay back.

justwise:


You really have time to listen to such nonsense. It takes far too long to get Canadian visa, many will be waiting for decision on their visa applications for 6months up while the UK makes that decision within 3months or less. A good number of Nigerians move from the UK to Canada because decision making on visa application is faster.

I don't see a lot of Nigerians packing their stuff and leave for Nigeria because of this policy, many will definitely stay back.

The policy will surely not fly in the way it has been presented as the human rights issues that will arise will be too much for the government to handle, there will be surely be concessions along the way.

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Hi Everyone.

Please i will like to seek your opinion , With the ongoing challenge regarding the proposed immigration policy,

Is now a good time for an immigrant currently on a Skilled work visa to consider buying a house (Prior to the release of the white paper, We had indicated interest in buying a house, our offer has been accepted and we have started the mortgage application process.

After the white paper release, I have started developing cold feet and reconsidering my deceision ,

What would you advise>

Thank you.

TouchOfSpice:

Hi Everyone.

Please i will like to seek your opinion , With the ongoing challenge regarding the proposed immigration policy,

Is now a good time for an immigrant currently on a Skilled work visa to consider buying a house (Prior to the release of the white paper, We had indicated interest in buying a house, our offer has been accepted and we have started the mortgage application process.

After the white paper release, I have started developing cold feet and reconsidering my deceision ,

What would you advise>

Thank you.

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