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Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) (951959 Views)
Raalsalghul: 1:08pm On May 19 |
TouchOfSpice: I would say "No" don't get the mortgage now. That money is more useful to you in the bank. Ask yourself if you want to invest in an environment where the Prime Minister called you a stranger despite your contributions. ![]() You need your raw cash for leverage. You can rethink the idea later when it's a little bit more conducive but for now wait. This is the time to be pragmatic and not the time of "aspire to perspire". ![]() My opinion. ![]() 1 Like |
Lexusgs430: 1:32pm On May 19 |
TouchOfSpice: The law would not be retrospective..... Anyone on old route, benefits from older legislation...... Buy your house, YESTERDAY..... 😁🤣🏡 10 Likes |
Akorkor(f): 1:38pm On May 19 |
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Akorkor(f): 1:39pm On May 19 |
TouchOfSpice: I would advise you to proceed and buy the house. In any way they want to put the clause, ownership of the home may be part of it. So it would still be a win-win for you. If you decide to do japa 2.0/3.0, it would still be a win-win at the end. 2 Likes |
jedisco(m): 1:40pm On May 19 |
Zahra29: Not a riot- just an investment. As you know, in the process of winding down, I had been looking to get an investment property for over a year and contribute to my home country rather than take the money to Canada. For a while, the numbers didn't work being in the south especially with high interest rates. However. I recently got one that ticked most boxes. The other day, it hit me that one of them is located in a town that saw some protests during the last riots. Some conversations I had here flashed back including the 'we don't think alike' one. At least, if there is another riot and folks accuse migrants of making houses expensive, they can point in my direction - I would not complain. Currently completing a few finishing cosmetic touches and I might conduct interviews for potential tenants soon. I wonder what folks would think about paying rent to a Nigerian-British expat who lives in Canada.. hehe. I would be updating you. Like someone here recently said, what would the 'natives' think? 2 Likes |
jedisco(m): 1:53pm On May 19 |
Goke7: It's mind-boggling. I being told here how me and fellow 'migrants' like chasing 'utopia' when I mentioned I was considering relocating years back. I wonder how many of the millions of Brits in Can, Aus or U.S have been accused of chasing utopia. Their thinking is that if we were not let in, we'd be living on trees in 9ja- afterall no other nation would let us in and Britain is soft-touch. Their expectation is that we remain forever subservient, take anything thrown at us and not complain. Whats worse is that this is also chorused by some migrants Like I always say, the west sees travelling as a right but for most of Africa we're made to see it as a privilege. 1 Like |
jedisco(m): 2:09pm On May 19 |
Treadway: I'm not talking about integration, I'm talking about entry. You do seem to have a point but feeding strongly off the common but false narrative that migrants here should thank their stars the UK let them in as no other developed country would. Little wonder folks are left scratching their head when these migrants head on. First, it needs to be said that humans move as groups. The reason why you have lots of Asians in say Hounslow is not because the council made it easy for them. Asides spousal visas, virtually every arrival in the UK is here on the back of their own merit. In Canada, a number went in off relatives already resident as North America favours family migration. Infact, folks could sponsor their parents and grandparents. Over the past decade numbers show it has been significantly easier to get into Canada than the UK. Nigerians may have favoured the UK but that does not change the fact. Thirdly, migration to the west is based on need. There is limited blanket 'ease or difficulty'. More carers came in during covid because the UK needed more not because it was 'easy'. They had a skill the host nation needed. Same with students- they had the money the host nation needed after the shenanigans of Brexit. Lastly, when comparing migration between nations, you need to look at the whole picture, not cherrypicking the best of one and comparing it to the worst of the other.
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jedisco(m): 2:19pm On May 19 |
TouchOfSpice: Overall, this seems to be a good year to buy a house, rates are dropping and prices have cooled. A way I approach such dilemma is asking what my options are Are you imminently leaving the UK? If not, do you want to continue paying rent. Home buying in the UK is well regulated. If you leave, you can decide to sell or rent and receive the money wherever you went to. Many of my colleagues who left sold their houses for good profit. I still partly regret not buying early on. Again, what are your options? 1 Like |
Goke7: 2:40pm On May 19 |
jedisco: Their desire is to see migrants being chased out of every western country, that’s why they like Trump so he can chase out their fellow Nigerians out of the US. Very despicable lots! And if you observe you’ll see folks who are not regular contributors here come out immediately they read or see people are being advised to try elsewhere. phew! 6 Likes |
Treadway: 2:54pm On May 19 |
jedisco:since we all want to be dancing around simple truths and complicating synonyms, let's do a basic logic and reasoning test shall we. I won't even dipe into deep data, surface level shi is enough. From the screenshots below which country is/was/can be deemed to be easiest to enter as a student?? Abeg, oya pick ya answer with your full chest. Ps: Note that the ones with the higher rejection rates had even more stringent requirements o, that is, there is also the element of meeting the requirements first, some of which are highly competitive and stringent...and then despite that there were still refusals. Oya answer the simple question above. Something go round, una go say na geoid. I just tire 😂 Na just student visa acceptance/refusal rates be that o...not even fierce competition like express entry. If no be canny wey try small by introducing category based draws (which both home-based and foreign-based are benefitting from), and the recent caregiver scheme for example, I for like see just how many of our very super competitive mid 30's to 40+ year olds wey enter to study in youkay for fit enter canny on express entry, since according to una many of them go fit hit 500 and above CRS points, as una don learn French for that youkay wey you dey so, and have become 10years younger 🤣🤣🤣 I said what I said.. anybody wey simple truths pain, na hin problem be that o. Even the 90/98% rate sef, I no agree. In real life and based on the subjects of this discussion which is Nigerians, the same Nigerians on this nairaland and the same who are friends and family that have gone on this journey, na 100%. I have not seen or read of 1 person no matter how sharp or dunce, that was intent to go to the UK to study, that didn't get the visa, within that 4-5years 4 Likes |
Goodenoch: 2:54pm On May 19 |
TouchOfSpice: Buy your house. Before the whitepaper is implemented and takes effect it'll likely be ¬a year, and before you decide plus actually put everything in place to leave if that's what you want to do, it'll likely be another year. Ergo, the options are keep paying your landlord's mortgage between now and then and if you then decide not to leave, try to buy a house at prices that have appreciated over 2 years, or buy now and sell when you want to leave having benefited from price appreciation of the equity in your home. P.S. I realise there are several other factors e.g. how close you are to leaving to another country (e.g. do you have Canadian PR already?), how much you could get in of savings returns on the deposit, how much more or less your mortgage would be vs your current rent, etc. so do a detailed analysis is necessary, but I believe buying now would be better for most. |
Zahra29: 3:34pm On May 19 |
jedisco: I have no idea what your tenants might think I'm afraid, there were no riots or any type of disturbance in my town or neighbouring towns so I have no experience. |
Zahra29: 3:43pm On May 19 |
justwise: The only way this would happen is if the UK government announced that we were now at war with Russia and all fit Commonwealth and British men of fighting age were required to sign up to the Army. Even if they didn't have to enlist, there would still be a mass exodus, people claiming that this is not their home country 🤣 |
Treadway: 3:47pm On May 19 |
Zahra29:lol. Before nko!🤣🤣. Home kwantry sef, I no fit kee myself for am, na host kwantry I go come fight for... But why only men, shebi feminism is a thing in the UK. You sef suppose dey drafted....lol |
jedisco(m): 3:50pm On May 19 |
Goke7: Hehe.. No let am vex u. There is freedom of thought and speech afterall. I think for some, all these things come in phases especially for recent entrants. After saving and praying for japa and hearing all the warnings on how to 'behave'. When many land, their main focus is not to upset anyone but rather please the 'natives' (as someone put it). That's why recent entrants can be quite timid and is not helped by certain aspects of our culture and tribalism back home. After a few years, they get to understand the system and see those who feed off their taxes chancing them- na then many dey begin get mouth. Sometimes, you hear harrowing stories based off this. A teacher recently told me of a case years back where the son of a recent migrant was bullied by a fellow student in school. The offending pupil has touched his privates and called him names. The boy reflexly slapped the other and it got to the principal and a meeting was called. Rather than the parents to speak up for their son, they cowered, came home and started scolding their son telling him not to put them into wahala for this abroad wey dem don manage come. The child returned to school but was a shell of himself. Continued to be bullied and subsequently dropped out and became a delinquent and later started questioning his gender. I'm sure the parents would looks back and wish they were less cowardly earlier on. 1 Like |
jedisco(m): 3:51pm On May 19 |
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Goke7: 4:01pm On May 19 |
Zahra29: 😂 You will be shocked the amount of folks that will still stay, recently Russia created a pathway for foreigners to come enlist in the army for citizenship, You need to see the interests from Nigerians. Let the UK try it first 😂 |
jedisco(m): 4:15pm On May 19 |
Treadway: Again, I think the issue here is the mentality. Canada did not 'try' to let in anyone. They did no one undue favours. Thaey needed the skills that were not served by their previous system and updated their system to get those skills. Need vs want again Some countries such as Ireland, Canada, U.S Aus/OZ after years of lack and its attendant effects have become much more receptive of foreign trained medical professionals in certain fields. Again, they are not doing those coming an undue favour. They need those skills and both sides tend to benfit.. Even with the proposed changes, why is the UK still looking to exemp certain folks? Every immigration system has it features. The UK has commoditised its immigration system hence it might seem more accesible to certain groups but same also can be said of others. People would find what suits them. |
Goke7: 4:19pm On May 19 |
jedisco: Let’s not mix things up, those am referring to are never recent migrants, they are the so called egbons with scarcity mindset who feels the recent migrants are choking them up and must be expelled so they (recent migrants) can go sit their butts back in naija. That’s why they hate it when they see japa 2.0 and condemn it saying it’s not greener anywhere. I can tell you that most recent migrants who were initially carried away with the rhetorics from kemi and co are now seeing things differently especially those who are yet to get ilr cos hand don touch them now and everyone is now getting aware of their rights. The most religious ones have even taken their case to baba God cos e no funny again. I have a colleague who is a great irer of Trump who recently told me e no know say the baba wicked like that 😂 I said tooo abi na FAFO! 2 Likes |
Treadway: 4:22pm On May 19 |
jedisco:agreed...but wait o, you still no answer the quesshion o. Jedi oya dahun ibeere mi, answer the question. The bolded is an answer of sorts, but indulge me with an answer that is explicit and clear. Which of those three destinations would you now say is/was/can be deemed to be easiest one to enter/get/achieve? See, I have no problem agreeing with simple common-sense statements/conclusions. It is just funny esp here how we see things that are as clear as day and still somehow muddy and overcomplicate it. Like there is a prize to be won by just going around in wanton needless circles...very very funny phenomenon, every time it plays out. Ego tins....Lori nkan ti o ni itumo. 3 Likes |
jedisco(m): 4:29pm On May 19 |
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Treadway: 4:35pm On May 19 |
jedisco:but wait o Jedi, you still no answer the quesshion o. Jedi oya dahun ibeere mi, answer the question. A portion of your response was def an answer quite alright, but indulge me with an answer that is explicit and clear. Based on those stats, which of those three destinations logically and reasonably is/was/can be deemed to be easiest one to enter/get/achieve? I'm not letting you go just yet😁 Because na literally wetin we talk wey bruise fragile egos be that I take God beg you, no make e long💯🙏🏼👏🏼 In 2019 refusal was around 35%, in 2022 refusal rate was around 60%, 2023 - 38%, 2024 (when everywhere began casting) above 50%. Meaning between 2019 to 2024 at least, the same time period, some people were having 100% success rate and others were having from 40-60% success rate... across various nationalities. But no ooo, awa professors here say it wasn't easier🤣 3 Likes |
Cyberknight: 5:37pm On May 19 |
Zahra29: There's also a Home Guard in formation, the new-style Dads Army. ![]() I'm in my 50s - I'll happily parade back and forth with a wooden rifle along the Dover coast or the Scottish islands or wherever I'm posted watching for invaders, if war comes. 2 Likes |
Zahra29: 5:44pm On May 19 |
justwise: Zim is definitely on the list, they just have a less sordid reputation. Funny story , I was listening to LBC last week and a Zim caller rang in and was casually boasting about how his sister (or cousin, can't ) set up a care company and used it to bring in him and about 5 of his siblings although they had no plans of working in care. Care company no longer operating, quelle surprise. He bragged that they just used it as a way to get into the UK and then move on to other industries/visa routes. According to him, his story was not unique, he could think of many other Zims who had done the same. He even agreed with the LBC host that he had manipulated the care system 😂 The call has gone semi viral: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJWqrah5DSU?si=uOcFbOw8QEBy_ZKf Zims have a lot of stories of CoS fraud as well. |
Zahra29: 5:48pm On May 19 |
Cyberknight: 🤣😂 Nice one, patriot 👍 |
Zahra29: 5:52pm On May 19 |
Treadway: Definitely, equal rights and all that. That's why I enlist my household in daily prayers for peace in our land 😂 |
Zahra29: 6:01pm On May 19 |
Goke7: I highly doubt that up to Lol I just ed a Nigerian guy (based in the UK) who ed the British Army back when that settlement route was still open. I should find out he's doing. |
Zahra29: 6:06pm On May 19 |
Treadway: LOL welcome to Jedisco World 🤣 |
Treadway: 6:06pm On May 19 |
Zahra29:lol. Zahra no wan fight...issorite |
Goke7: 6:10pm On May 19 |
Zahra29: I think its still open but aged based around 32 or so. It's time bound I think at a particular time of the year or biennial i can't . But you need to a physical test and I think it's open more to commonwealth citizens not living in the uk. That's where folks in the uk don't qualify if not hmmmmmm lol. |
Phayie(m): 7:04pm On May 19 |
Why is nobody talking about the new UK-EU deal
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jedisco(m): 10:40pm On May 19 |
Treadway: Again, you are cherrypicking and coming to undue conclusions. You are taking a relative rise in recent migrants to the UK and using that to drive a narrative. That's not how to handle data. First, looking at modern migration, it has always tilted towards certain groups at different points in time. It's not down to some genetic quality hiding somewhere. What you're doing is taking a small subset from a short period and using it to make vast extrapolations. What happened to the period between 2012 and 2020? How many Nigerian students saw any future in the UK? Compare that to the number of PRs canada handed out despite the fact we have little historical affiliation to them. Getting into Canada would have been easier for me 6 years ago. Geeting a Canadian PR was also several levels easier than the UK ILR - migration is manytimes individualised. Secondly you're making the error of correlating the relative increase in number of arrivals over the last few years to some undue benevolence. That's false equivalence. The reason you saw more people arrive was down to need and the political error around Brexit. That is why the populace and the political class increasingly see those arrivals as a generational error in need of fixing. Who is to say that if the time to ILR is made 10yrs today for them, some other government would not double it to 20? And you'd still come preach benevolence- afterall, they wouldn't have got in elsewhere. Two issues here is that first, the Canadian system has over decades let in more people and secondly, the relatively rise in the number of immigrants into the UK recently is not due to British benevolence. 1 Like |
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