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If Ikwerres Are Not Igbos, Aworis And Eguns Are Not Yorubas (2643 Views)
RedboneSmith(m): 9:04pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
owobokiri: You're trying too hard. Even hardline Ìgbò nationalists know that people like Uche Okwukwu, etc., are in the minority and most Ikwerre identify as an ethnicity distinct from Ìgbò. How am I sure that Aworis and Eguns want to be part of Yoruba land? I already said Eguns are not Yoruba. As for the Aworis, if you can find 5 Awori people who have gone on record to say Aworis are not Yoruba, then we can continue this discussion. Otherwise, I am done here. ✌️ 1 Like |
Attorney79(m): 7:39pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Idonweak: How did u survive with the 30k last month? Sorry I couldn't mention u on my thread cos it was moved to another section where I can't comment due to the fact that I am a newbie here |
Idonweak: 7:52pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Attorney79: Tbh, I barely survived. Firstly, I was earning 32k, so I had to divide it by 4(8k per week). inside that 8k, I bought garri, half paint and egusi,pepper and crayfish. I couldn't afford to buy fish or else I'll tamper my budget for the week. inside the 8k I also budget 1k for data. I ate eba and egusi for like 3 days, drinking garri afternoon. Then on the 4th day, I'll buy #400 naira bread and sachet bama #100 then I wait for 12pm to eat so it can stay till evening. Evening I'll drink garri. then 5th day I'll buy half derica of beans for #900 and palm oil with crayfish. I'll eat it till the 6th day. on the evening of 6th day I'll buy half derica of rice, I can't really the price of that one and buy pepper and tomato #500. But bro it was though I was never happy. I was working as secondary school teacher. i was living on a strict budget and thankfully I don't have to worry about gfs or even friends that visit me that might cause me to overspend. However, I quit that job this month not long ago. Right now I'm looking for better employment sha 1 Like |
Attorney79(m): 7:58pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Idonweak: It's better |
aribisala0(m): 8:57pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
babasolution:But the Western Governm developed Ikeja and that is why it was made capital Your bitterness will rot your liver 1 Like |
babasolution: 10:06pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
aribisala0: Your curses will go back to you |
aribisala0(m): 10:07pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
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babasolution: 10:08pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
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Christistruth00: 11:00pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Yujin: The Egun are fon speakers of Yoruba Ancestry They migrated from Ile Ife and descended from Olupopo Oduduwa's Son Oba of Egun Badagry wears anIfe Crown Egub adopted the Language of their Fon Neighbours but are actually bilingual speaking both Fon and Yoruba 1 Like |
Christistruth00: 11:00pm On Nov 26, 2024 |
Yujin: The Egun are fon speakers of Yoruba Ancestry They migrated from Ile Ife and descended from Olupopo Oduduwa's Son Oba of Egun Badagry wears an Ife Crown given by Ooni of Ife Egun adopted the Language of their Fon Neighbours but are actually bilingual speaking both Fon and Yoruba They were received and resettled by their Awori Yoruba Cousins on Awori Land at Badagry after the King of Dahomey invaded Ouidah their Kingdom in the Early 17th century. Alaafin of Oyo ( Oyo were also Egun cousins) their new overlord showed the king of Dahomey shege on their behalf and Dahomey spent almost a century under Oyo and paying Tribute afterwards. 1 Like 1 Share |
Yujin(m): 10:38am On Nov 27, 2024 |
Christistruth00:Here's an article by Ogu people and published on Sahara Reporters in 2014. What Yorubas like you have been doing to Ogu people is unforgiven. Their history, names and language is not related to Yoruba yet here you come claiming one useless relationship with them. Attachee by force agbadorians. Your wickedness towards the Ogu people will be revealed to all. The Exclusion Of Ogu (Egun) People From The Lagos And Ogun National Conference Delegates’ List March 4, 2014 Dr. Pius Fasinu Opinion The continuous marginalization of the Ogu (Egun) people of South-West Nigeria is common knowledge. The late sage and Premier of the then Western Region, Chief Obafemi Awolowo has remained the reference point in leadership not only because of his selflessness and capability, but primarily because of his inclusiveness. For example, it was Chief Awolowo who appointed the Aholu, Claudius Dosa Akran from Badagry as the Minister for Economic Planning and Community Development (1958 – 1964) in the then regional government. At the same time, Chief D. K Aihonsu (from Ipokia, present day Ogun State) was a member of the Regional House of Representatives through the of Chief Awolowo. Since the demise of this sage (and the leadership style he represented), there have been spirited efforts to present the South-West Nigeria as a mono-ethnic region. In this vain, political representation (other than local elective posts) has largely excluded Ogu people. For the records, Ogu people, who speak the language called Ogu (although erroneously called Egun) had been part of this space before colonization and amalgamation of the Southern and Northern Protectorates of Nigeria. The misfortune of colonization led to the partitioning of Ogu people into Nigeria, Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana, and Ivory Coast. The geographical spread of Ogu people forms a trans-border continuum in all these countries, while settling Ogu people are found in various other places in Nigeria. To this end, Ogu people were part of the struggle for Nigeria's independence and have contributed in no small measure to national development. In today’s Nigeria, Ogu people are found mainly in Badagry area of Lagos State as well as in Ado-Odo/Ota, Ipokia, Imeko, and Yewa South Local Government Areas of Ogun State. They are found in most states that share borders with Benin Republic, including Oyo, Kwara and Niger States. In addition, there are various Ogu indigenous communities like Makoko and Iwaya in Lagos State, Ago-Egun in Abeokuta, among others. The indigenous Ogu people of Nigeria have had their fair share of the troubles with Nigeria. The Ogu are the typical victim of ethnic crisis in South-West Nigeria. In recent times, there has been escalation of ethnic crisis between Ogu people and their majority Yoruba neighbours as often reported in Ado-Odo, Ipokia areas, and some parts of Badagry. A few years ago, Ogu people were, almost as a matter of policy, denied ission into Badagry Grammar School, Kakon Model College and other government-owned schools until sufficient pressure and protests were ed by their leaders. On of the non-Yoruba names most of them bear (there are some who consciously and on of accident of naming bear Yoruba names), Ogu people are still denied ission into the various tertiary institutions in South-West Nigeria today among other injustices arising from their minority status in the South-West in particular and Nigeria in general. The situation, sadly, at times suggests a systematic intention to single out this particular ethnic group for persecution. To many, the Ogu are Nigerians only when it is time to vote. Lagos traditionally has five divisions with Badagry (comprising mainly the Ogu people and the Awori sub-ethnic group of the Yoruba) as one of these divisions. It is however worrisome that a lot of political decisions and other moves for development often exclude the Ogu as is playing out in the nomination of delegates for the forthcoming national conference. The Ogu people had looked up to the national confab as a great opportunity to table their concerns and suggestions that will advance the Nigeria project. It was with anxious optimism that the Ogu people through the Ogu Concern Forum (and various other groups) made presentations and submitted memoranda to the Senator Femi Okurounmu-led Confab Committee when the visited the South West late last year. Among others things, the Ogu people canvassed for ethnic representation to the confab, just as many other groups had advised. The report that the Constitutional Conference Planning Committee ultimately presented recommended, among other things, that the selection of delegates from each state should reflect their ethnic composition. Following from the recommendations, the Ogu people had made presentations and suggestions to the Lagos and Ogun State governments to be represented at the national confab. On Monday, February 24th 2014, Governor Fashola of Lagos released the names of the six nominee-delegates of Lagos State to the national confab -- Alhaji Femi Okunnu, Mr. Supo Shasore, Mr. Rabiu Oluwa, Mr. Waheed Ayeni, Prof Tunde Samuel and Mrs. Funmilayo Bashorun. Just as the Ogu, who were not in any way given any consideration in the choice of delegates, were grappling with the misfortune that had befallen them, the Ogun State Governor, Senator Ibikunle Amosun also announced the names of Ogun State nominated delegates two days after to include Sir Olaniwun Ajayi, Pastor Tunde Bakare, Senator Biyi Durojaiye, Fola Adeola, Oba Kehinde Olugbenle, Mrs. Titi Filani, Barrister Biyi Adegbuyi and Senator Iyabo Anisulowo. Once again, the reality of Nigeria having a non-political national conference without Ogu people represented stares the entire South-West in the face. The all-Yoruba delegates' lists from Lagos and Ogun States reek through and through with contradictions. Such an exclusive list has the potential of detracting from the constant claim to a progressive character with which the South-West has often been identified. Neither is such a move in consonance with the mantra of justice and fairness and a collective developmental partnership which often reverberate in this part of the country. How, for instance, could these two states with radio and television broadcasting programmes in both Yoruba and Ogu close their eyes to the existence of Ogu ethnic nationality in their choice of delegates to the National Conference? It is an established fact that, Ogu people are not Yoruba, and to that extent, the governments of the states should have been kind enough to allow for representation of the Ogu as a distinct ethnic formation in the states. Even the non-Yoruba people in Ondo (Itshekiris, Ijaws) get better treatment from the state government. We believe it is not late to rectify this gross marginalization and injustice. We are persuaded that there should be at least one Ogu representative in the Lagos State delegates' list. We are equally persuaded that the Ogu people in Ogun State deserve at least one representative out of the eight delegates nominated by the state. We reject every suggestion that Ogu people can be represented by non-Ogu people, as not only does this smack of an attempt to infantilize Ogu people, it also amounts to malignant paternalism. We reject the persuasive distortions that tend to lump us up as Yoruba. We make bold to say that the absolutism being projected by the current leaders of South-West Nigeria is against the spirit of national dialogue. We demand from the Nigerian State equal rights as citizens, including the right to air our grievances through the national conference. We remind all, that persistent injustice breeds agitation and resistance. We reject all suggestions that diminish our persons, our identities, our dignity and our uniqueness. We do not affirm difference for its sake; we do so because it is the least logical thing to do, seeing that we operate by distinct cultural paradigms that are framed by equally distinct historical evidence. Signed on behalf of Ogu Collective: Dr Pius Fasinu Ms Gloria Sevezun Agbaosi Dr Senayon Olaoluwa Mr Viyon Awhanse Dr Jendele Hungbo Mr Nunayon Samson Afodewu Ogu collective, a representative body of the Ogu people of Nigeria can be reached at [email protected] https://saharareporters.com/2014/03/04/exclusion-ogu-egun-people-lagos-and-ogun-national-conference-delegates%E2%80%99-list |
Yujin(m): 10:57am On Nov 27, 2024 |
From the above article, it's very saddening the Yorubas are denying Ogu people ission into some government owned secondary and tertiary institutions simply because they bear different names and are from a minority ethnic group even in this age. These are the same people who claim to be civilized and sophisticated. I hope other ethnicities are seeing their level of tribalism and oppressive tendencies. The recent activities of the Lagos State government is confirming all what the Ogu people have been facing in the hands of Yorubas.
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Christistruth00: 2:17am On Nov 28, 2024 |
Here is another more recent article from the Egun People confirming their Ile Ife roots and Ancestry https://www.vanguardngr.com/2019/03/yoruba-in-badagry-are-from-ile-ife-not-ghana-high-chief-wawu/ Vanguard News Yoruba in Badagry are from Ile-Ife, not Ghana – High Chief Wawu Yoruba leader • Drummers celebrating the importance of drums Lagos – High Chief Tajudeen Dosa Ayipe, the Wawu of Badagry Kingdom, on Thursday traced the origin of Yoruba speaking people of Badagry to Oduduwa in Ile-Ife and not from Ghana as claimed in a recent publication. • Drummers celebrating the importance of drums The Badagry High Chief made this clarification during a media tour of the coastal city in preparation for the Tourism Innovation and Development Advantage (TIDA) conference scheduled for April 24, 2019. The theme of the forthcoming TIDA conference will be “Impact of Sustainable Tourism Development and Marketing of Tourism Destinations on Host Communities”. I Can't give up because I have a mother and two brothers — Blind 23-Yr-Old Fabiyi...0:00 / 0:00 “We, Badagry people are from Ile-Ife and settled at Quidah in Benin Republic, later the Ifa oracle directed us to return through Gberefu to our present location in Badagry. “The Wawu is famous because the family refused to slavery at the time it was banned. “Another means of identification with the Oduduwa race is the staff of office presently used which is known as “Kanako,” a metallic sceptre in the shape of the tree leaf to which tiny piece of metal are connected and able to produce a scintillating sound when shaken. “The staff was used then to shorten a long distance journey without using any means of transportation,’’ the Wawu said. https://newlive.vanguardngr.com/2019/03/lagos-atbowaton-inaugurates-new-executive/ He urged the Lagos State Government and Non-Governmental Organisations to invest in training youths of the community on how to latch onto the tourism potential inherent in the kingdom. According to Ayipe, there are numerous tourist attractions that can be developed to be beneficial to the government and the people of Badagry at large. “Most of these tourists sites are: the seat of cannon gun for slavery abolition in 1843, the Union Jack in the Wawu compound, Ancient Wawu palace. “Also, notable shrines in the Wawu Kingdom includes: Obatala gods, Osun, Sango, Dagbe (snake), Orisa Ibeji, Egungun and host of other gods which all identify with the supreme God. “We want these shrines and tourist sites well promoted for local and international recognition,’’ he said. Earlier, Mr Femi Lawson, Founder of TIDA, said that the 2019 conference would rub off positively on individuals and the tourism industry. Related News Erinmo: The People and their History Osun to build Yoruba museum in Ife, as Ooni emerges from seclusion Why we chose Badagry to mark 400th anniversary of slavery in Africa He said that Badagry was selected host city to promote and give more awareness to its tourist sites as well as it’s rich culture. According to him, this will lead to the development of Badagry Kingdom. “TIDA is set for development of ideas that will add value to tourism promotion through tourism insurance, infrastructural tourism and the virtual tourism device. “This will help market the nation’s tourism potential domestically and help increase traffic of international tourists into the country,’’ the Wawu said. (NAN) Edo Governor-elect Okpebholo to Obaseki: Focus on transition, not media slander October 27, 2024 Japa: Migrant dies attempting to cross Channel to UK October 27, 2024 I did not sign $45.21m Flyover deal with China’, Okpebholo replies PDP October 27, 2024 Jimoh Ibrahim urges Govt to issue food vouchers to combat hunger October 27, 2024 more top stories Decriminalising Nigeria’s democratic estate, by Ikechukwu Amaechi Decriminalising Nigeria’s democratic estate, by Ikechukwu Amaechi Olu Fasan Tax reform bills: Tinubu lacks the will for national consensus building, by Olu Fasan CCT Chairman CCT Chairman: The missteps of lawmakers and lawyers on constitutional matters Disclaimer Comments expressed here do not reflect the opinions of Vanguard newspapers or any employee thereof. with us Us Allure Aviation Business Columns Crime Alert Discussion Editorial Education E-Editions Entertainment Environment Features Foreign Health Homes & Property Human Angle Insurance and You Interviews Labour Law & Human Rights Metro Motoring Politics Relationships Special Report Sports Sweet Crude Technology The Arts Cartoons Travel & Tourism Videos Viewpoint Woman’s Own Worship © 2024 Vanguard Media Limited, Nigeria 1 Like |
babasolution: 7:37am On Nov 28, 2024 |
Christistruth00: This wawu people are not egun people, they are Yorubas living amongst egun people |
Konquest: 4:04pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
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Probz(m): 5:07pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Eguns aren’t Yorubas anyway.
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ariesbull: 11:15pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
Probz:Eguns aren't Yoruba |
Probz(m): 11:31pm On Dec 06, 2024 |
ariesbull: Is that not exactly whar I'm saying? |
aswani(m): 3:44pm On Dec 13, 2024 |
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