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gabbytabby: 7:38pm On Nov 24, 2024
You have answered your own question without even realising it ikwere is ikwere, Awori is Awori and Egun is Egun similar to how Urhobo is Urhobo and Esan is Esan and Isioko is Isioko but the greedy and covetous are always looking to steal instead of respecting the individuality of everyone.

Allow everyone to breath. They all just try to live in PEACEFUL coexistence. Let the neck stretchers relax.

Common sense is not so common.

owobokiri:
Since the end of the war in 1970, there have been ceaseless and desperate attempts by federal Nigeria and the main beneficiaries of the unfortunate outcome of the war who reside in the South West and the north, to balkanize the former Eastern Nigeria. This has been done through all sorts of measures, including nebulous state creations and tricky boundary adjustments, that have carved out many Igbo communities at the peripheries, and handed them over as minorities to surrounding non Igbo speaking states.

These acts have led to a lot of marginalisations, segregations and taunts directed towards these set of Igbos. It has also led to a situation where the five South Eastern states have been neglected and deprived of deu royalties, allocations, appointments and all what not from the federal government. For instance in every project for development or sharing of resources in Nigeria, the South East states ALWAYS come last. ALL THE TIME! SINCE 1966!!!

Recently, An attempt by the Igbos in Delta state to have a new state created for them and to their kiths and kins in the South East, instigated a firestorm as many people especially from the ruling South West section of the APC, insisted that there are no indigenous Igbos in the Niger Delta. Even when these interlopers were reminded of the language and other cultural similarities between the Igbo speaking parts of the Niger Delta and the Igbos in the South East, they stuck to their guns.

My questions here are; since this view is popular in the South West, can we stretch the diabolical logic behind it by saying that the Aworis and Eguns are not Yorubas, especially now that these groups are desperately angling for a breathing space in Lagos their homeland? Since most interior Yorubas can't even understand whatever the Aworis speak, while most Igbos can easily understand the Ika dialect, can we insist that Lagos is not a Yoruba state but an Aworis and Eguns state, the same way some South westerners want us to believe that Ikwerres and Ikas are not Igbos but "Niger Deltans"?

I'm confused..

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Ikinternational: 7:40pm On Nov 24, 2024
owobokiri:

What's this poor rat talking about?
You have an that has never been touched, and so what?

I have been a landlord in a prime area at that your Onitsha since 2007,.
Oya, do the maths.
Mgbu!


I'm the Mayor of Onitsha. Where is this secret location that doesn't have a name 🤔

Asi asi 🤣😂

My grandfather's property is still there sef at New Market Rd . That's how imbedded my family is at Onitsha. So easy with the lies.....
owobokiri(m): 7:52pm On Nov 24, 2024
Ikinternational:



I'm the Mayor of Onitsha. Where is this secret location that doesn't have a name 🤔

Asi asi 🤣😂

My grandfather's property is still there sef at New Market Rd . That's how imbedded my family is at Onitsha. So easy with the lies.....
I just told you the truth.
Housing estate Onitsha. 2007. First real estate investment. Genuine hustle. Give me my respect, nwa out!
Few years after travelling out. Fresh out of the uni. Set up couple of relatives. And I'm still young!

Why would lie to you? You will never know me and I will never know you.
Let that slide tho..

Back to topic
Some Igbos need to be more purposeful. APC is a totally anti Igbo party and if the igbos don't start to agitate on time, next 100 years will be as terrible as last 100 years.
Idonweak: 8:08pm On Nov 24, 2024
Yujin:

Aworis are debatably Yorubas but the Egun who call themselves Ogu people are not Yorubas. They are closer to the Fon speakers of Benin republic than Yorubas. Their language isn't even Yoruboid but the intonation is similar to Yoruba intonation. The king of Badagry, an Ogu man bears the title 'Akran' and not 'Oba'. The Ogu history is well documented. They can be found in South Eastern Benin republic, Lagos and Ogun states. A good number of the Ogu people in Nigeria are bilingual in Ogu and Yoruba but they're not Yoruba or a yoruboid group.
One key thing to identifying a Yoruboid group is the absence of the alphabet 'z' in their language or dialect.

Comparing the Ika and Ikwerre situation towards the SE Igbos as similar to the Egun/Yoruba connection is totally wrong. The others are pure dialects of Igbo while Egun isn't a dialect of Yoruba.


You're so ignorant and stupid for this rubbish you wrote. Infact you're mad

Kiddo lemme reinstate it in your dumb skull. I am from badagry and here the aworis' and the eguns' regard themselves as yoruba. The title of their king doesn't diminish their yorubaness. As every yoruba king had its own title. From the oni of ife, the soun of Ogbomosho, the olubadan of ibadan, the oluwo of iwo etc. So if the source of yoruba itself which is the oni has a dedicated title why will the oba of badagry own be different?
Now let's go back to history kiddo, something you obviously lack. Oyo empire spread widely even to ghana. This itself makes the egun people more related to yoruba than. There are town in benin republic that practice proper ife tradition and customs e.g Kétou.
So lil boy focus on your Biafra and keep South West out of your stinking mouth.

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Tigernut101: 8:42pm On Nov 24, 2024
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Your mother’s pussy will shut up in 21days
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Ikinternational: 8:43pm On Nov 24, 2024
owobokiri:

I just told you the truth.
Housing estate Onitsha. 2007. First real estate investment. Genuine hustle. Give me my respect, nwa out!
Few years after travelling out. Fresh out of the uni. Set up couple of relatives. And I'm still young!

Why would lie to you? You will never know me and I will never know you.
Let that slide tho..

Back to topic
Some Igbos need to be more purposeful. APC is a totally anti Igbo party and if the igbos don't start to agitate on time, next 100 years will be as terrible as last 100 years.



Terrible is a bridge too far

We don't run Abuja. Okay and so what

The powers that be will never let that happen
Blue3k(m): 8:45pm On Nov 24, 2024
Anthropology and linguistics courses should be very popular subjects in Nigerian universities.
IyanAtiEgusi: 8:46pm On Nov 24, 2024
Blue3k:
Anthropology and linguistics courses should be very popular subjects in Nigerian universities.
very useless courses grin
delpee(f): 10:06pm On Nov 24, 2024
Aworis are from Ile Ife. History is clear on that. Eguns are a sub group of Yorubas like some others in Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana and Sierra Leone.
Tranquill: 10:40pm On Nov 24, 2024
yoruboid:
Ikwerres deny being Igbo

I am Awori and no Awori has denied being Yoruba

Show me one Egun or Awori that has come out to deny being Yoruba but there are hundreds of Ikwerres that have consistently denied being Igbo

The onus is on the ethnic group in question to accept being what you describe them as

It’s really irritating and insulting when some idi0ts think that they are in a position to tell another people who they are or should be, and it is only Igbo people that think this is acceptable, but we understand their desperation.

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babasolution: 10:50pm On Nov 24, 2024
aribisala0:

Define Lagos
You are a fool
Lagos state was created in 1967

It had 5 divisions
Lagos
Ikorodu
Ikeja
Epe
Badagry
Prior to 1967 the Lagos division stood alone as federal capital
The other 4 divisions were part of the Western Region governed from Ibadan
REPEAT IBADAN

AGAIN..?

IBADAN

*Ibadan was responsible for Ikorodu Epe Badagry and Ikeja till 1967

Badagry covers all of Orile Festac etc

Ikeja covers Mushin Isolo

So the capital alone was federal until 1967

Epe and Ikorodu are Ijebu land

Badadry is Awori and Egun and
Ikeja is a mixture of settlers from Nupe. e.g Oshodi Egba e.g Abule Egba etc

So don't put dirty mouth in Lagos State matter if you don't know the history

Prior to 1967,Festac and even orile were jungles,the Western government never had any development stride there,these areas were developed by the FG
Yujin(m): 11:35pm On Nov 24, 2024
Idonweak:



You're so ignorant and stupid for this rubbish you wrote. Infact you're mad

Kiddo lemme reinstate it in your dumb skull. I am from badagry and here the aworis' and the eguns' regard themselves as yoruba. The title of their king doesn't diminish their yorubaness. As every yoruba king had its own title. From the oni of ife, the soun of Ogbomosho, the olubadan of ibadan, the oluwo of iwo etc. So if the source of yoruba itself which is the oni has a dedicated title why will the oba of badagry own be different?
Now let's go back to history kiddo, something you obviously lack. Oyo empire spread widely even to ghana. This itself makes the egun people more related to yoruba than. There are town in benin republic that practice proper ife tradition and customs e.g Kétou.
So lil boy focus on your Biafra and keep South West out of your stinking mouth.
Shut your dirty stinky mouth there. You should learn how to talk to people with respect even if you don't agree with them.
Here's a picture of the Akran of Badagry. Did you see a single Yoruba word there? You're very ignorant on this topic so endeavour to be cautious while engaging in it.
Do you know the meaning of a single word in his name or even title? Of course, you don't know. Next time I'll attack you viciously if you talk anyhow to me.

Don't be deceived when you see Yoruba authors add 'Oba' to his title. They have been doing this for a very long time just to subsume the Eguns but the people are rejecting it as you can see. Although so Eguns bear Yoruba names along side their own names, they know very well the difference. Anywhere you see a traditional leader among the Eguns having the title 'Oba' attached to it, check the author of that article. It must have been written by a Yoruba person. Thank God many Ogus(Eguns) are challenging it today.

As for your fictitious Oyo empire, they never got anywhere close to Ghana. The farthest they got to is Atakpame, in today's Togo. The Ogus are closer to the trio of Fon, Aja and Ewes of Togo. Yorubas can't claim them. This is a topic I know so well.

Yujin(m): 11:58pm On Nov 24, 2024
PulaPower:

Egun is not a dialect of Yoruba keeh? Even Egun people go dey laugh you..

Egun people are pure Yoruba, don’t dull..
Lagos state TV station gives news in Egun language. You should listen to it and tell me if what they're speaking is a dialect of Yoruba. Here's a youtube link to clear you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4taB6tdtbA?si=JCuV09-bzQ7rskaE

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Oboys12: 12:56am On Nov 25, 2024
This is my problem with the Igbos and why we the Ukwuanis of Delta State won't be ing the Igbos in the so called Anioma state.
I love the Igbos but there is one fundamental problem it the Igbos and it is the desire to always force your narrative on others and it is very bad
Ikwere said they are ikwere and not igbo so be it
Ukwuani, Ika of Delta State says there are not Igbo so be it, the only part of Anioma that are pro Igbo is the Aniochas or you can call them Enuani that is the Asaba axis
Our ancestors lived and died as Ukwuani and never Igbo and as a matter of Fact we have Igbo quarter, Yoruba quarter, Hausa quarter and even Ghana quarter in Obiaruku my hometown till date
These are areas that are predominant dominated by these people. The Igbos have always being strangers in our land and are categorised among strangers till tomorrow.
So why force your identity on us. Why should we be called Igbos all of a sudden why not Igbos being called Ukwuani or is it because Igbo are more populated therefore we should be incorporated into them, Bullshit
As a matter of fact some part of Igbos migrated from Ukwuani to the present Anambra and Imo state

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aribisala0(m): 1:09am On Nov 25, 2024
babasolution:


Prior to 1967,Festac and even orile were jungles,the Western government never had any development stride there,these areas were developed by the FG


Jungle?

Do you have any idea what the whole of Nigeria looked. Like in 1967?

There was not a single express road in THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA


NOT ONE

So everything is relative


So if Badagry was a Jungle what did the SE look like?

Being the monkey that you are you must know.

The Western Region government was. ALWAYS the richest
Easily verifiable

The Western Regi9n developed the industrial base in Ikeja.

Yes the country was backward but the Western Region was always ahead

The first to own a TV Station,University etc


So your stupid claim that areas were developed by FG Is bad belle
States were created in 1967by a military government and the whole country was ruled by military government

Ikeja Airport Hotel is part of the Odua group of companies dating back to the 60s

Stop hating

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helinues: 5:56am On Nov 25, 2024
Factcheck0001:
guy u are a liar

Someone who has made reasonable amount of money over time won't b displaying madness in a forum like this

I can bet u are still hustling

That's the logical thing some of them don't understand. If you are indeed making money not online chest beating, no way you will be bitter about politics discussion
babasolution: 7:01am On Nov 25, 2024
aribisala0:



Jungle?

Do you have any idea what the whole of Nigeria looked. Like in 1967?

There was not a single express road in THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA


NOT ONE

So everything is relative


So if Badagry was a Jungle what did the SE look like?

Being the monkey that you are you must know.

The Western Region government was. ALWAYS the richest
Easily verifiable

The Western Regi9n developed the industrial base in Ikeja.

Yes the country was backward but the Western Region was always ahead

The first to own a TV Station,University etc


So your stupid claim that areas were developed by FG Is bad belle
States were created in 1967by a military government and the whole country was ruled by military government

Ikeja Airport Hotel is part of the Odua group of companies dating back to the 60s

Stop hating

Your claim that because badagry n Festac was under Western government prior to 1967 so development in such areas were due to Western government is false and I corrected you on that simple.the Western government didn't develop those areas ,it was FG that did simple.
Idonweak: 7:06am On Nov 25, 2024
Yujin:

Shut your dirty stinky mouth there. You should learn how to talk to people with respect even if you don't agree with them.
Here's a picture of the Akran of Badagry. Did you see a single Yoruba word there? You're very ignorant on this topic so endeavour to be cautious while engaging in it.
Do you know the meaning of a single word in his name or even title? Of course, you don't know. Next time I'll attack you viciously if you talk anyhow to me.

Don't be deceived when you see Yoruba authors add 'Oba' to his title. They have been doing this for a very long time just to subsume the Eguns but the people are rejecting it as you can see. Although so Eguns bear Yoruba names along side their own names, they know very well the difference. Anywhere you see a traditional leader among the Eguns having the title 'Oba' attached to it, check the author of that article. It must have been written by a Yoruba person. Thank God many Ogus(Eguns) are challenging it today.

As for your fictitious Oyo empire, they never got anywhere close to Ghana. The farthest they got to is Atakpame, in today's Togo. The Ogus are closer to the trio of Fon, Aja and Ewes of Togo. Yorubas can't claim them. This is a topic I know so well.


I told you I'm from badagray and you're asking me if i understand the words there? Dude i can speak the language. Meanwhile, how can something fictitious as you claimed still expand to togo?

Also, don't just make stupid claims. Mention the nonetities Eguns that told you they're not yoruba. I'm waiting.

You claim to know much on this topic but I'm sure you've never been to any Egun land before, a place you claim to know alot about .🤡


FYI, difference in language doesn't mean they don't have connection with the yoruba people. You keep talking about language. What about other factors, like their shared beliefs, customs and traditions, religion and even History. Why are do they bear Yoruba names if they don't regard themselves as yoruba? Genuinely ask yourself that question. I won't respect you because i hate clownery. You read stupid shit online and immediately proclaim yourself an expert in the topic. Also, Egun people use yoruba titles, "Oba","baale", "iyaloja","yeye oba", balogun and so on. This is not written by your "imagined" yoruba authors but by the Egun themselves.

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owobokiri(m): 8:51am On Nov 25, 2024
helinues:


That's the logical thing some of them don't understand. If you are indeed making money not online chest beating, no way you will be bitter about politics discussion

Ómó mî,
How area?
Wishing you a successful week ahead.
But Stop trying to defend a structure that was instituted to enslave my people in their own land. Everybody love god things.
Food tidings
Luv u
aribisala0(m): 9:41am On Nov 25, 2024
PulaPower:

Egun is not a dialect of Yoruba keeh? Even Egun people go dey laugh you..

Egun people are pure Yoruba, don’t dull..
They are not Yoruba
We do not need to claim what is not ours
aribisala0(m): 9:48am On Nov 25, 2024
babasolution:


Your claim that because badagry n Festac was under Western government prior to 1967 so development in such areas were due to Western government is false and I corrected you on that simple.the Western government didn't develop those areas ,it was FG that did simple.
Where did I mention Festac
You are an Idiot
I mentioned 5 divisions not only Badagry
All the development
that happened up till 1967 BEFORE Lagos state was created was down to the Western Region that was my claim
Did Festac exist in 1967??
Was there a single express road any where in Nigeria in 1967?
No
Is Badagry the only part I mentioned
So why are you putting words I did not say in my mouth
If I did not claim FESTAC you will die a painful death like a dog

Nigeria as a whole had a certain development level in 1967

Ikeja Badagry Epe and Ikorodu were in the Western region until 1967

Whatever the level of those parts of Western Region In 1967 compare to Aba or Onitsha in 1967 or Enugu or Port Harcourt

In that same 1967
babasolution: 9:54am On Nov 25, 2024
aribisala0:

Where did I mention Festac
You are an Idiot
I mentioned 5 divisions not only Badagry
All the development
that happened up till 1967 BEFORE Lagos state was created was down to the Western Region that was my claim
Did Festac exist in 1967??
Was there a single express road any where in Nigeria in 1967?
No
Is Badagry the only part I mentioned
So why are you putting words I did not say in my mouth
If I did not claim FESTAC you will die a painful death like a dog

Nigeria as a whole had a certain development level in 1967

Ikeja Badagry Epe and Ikorodu were in the Western region until 1967

Whatever the level of those parts of Western Region In 1967 compare to Aba or Onitsha in 1967 or Enugu or Port Harcourt

In that same 1967

Irreverent curses go back to sender

Western government had very little development contribution to LAGOS, all the areas previously under Western government in LAGOS today except Ikeja are the less developed part of LAGOS today,the FG finished worked in LAGOS
Yujin(m): 10:29am On Nov 25, 2024
Idonweak:



I told you I'm from badagray and you're asking me if i understand the words there? Dude i can speak the language. Meanwhile, how can something fictitious as you claimed still expand to togo?

Also, don't just make stupid claims. Mention the nonetities Eguns that told you they're not yoruba. I'm waiting.

You claim to know much on this topic but I'm sure you've never been to any Egun land before, a place you claim to know alot about .🤡


FYI, difference in language doesn't mean they don't have connection with the yoruba people. You keep talking about language. What about other factors, like their shared beliefs, customs and traditions, religion and even History. Why are do they bear Yoruba names if they don't regard themselves as yoruba? Genuinely ask yourself that question. I won't respect you because i hate clownery. You read stupid shit online and immediately proclaim yourself an expert in the topic. Also, Egun people use yoruba titles, "Oba","baale", "iyaloja","yeye oba", balogun and so on. This is not written by your "imagined" yoruba authors but by the Egun themselves.
I repeat, Egun is not a dialect of Yoruba. Rather, it is considered a dialect of Fon. Though they've shared centuries of intermarriages and cohabitation with Yorubas in and around the Benin/Nigerian border and have borrowed a couple of things from each other, Egun still retains most of its originality. The origin of their ancestry points towards Benin/Togo border and not Eastwards into Yorubaland. The same Egun people own Porto-Novo which Yoruba people call Ajase. There are other Egun communities in Lagos and Ogun state. Ikoga-Zebbe is a well known Egun community close to the Ogun state border just north of Badadgry. As we all know, you can't find a single Yoruba word with letter 'z' because it doesn't exist in Yoruba language and all her dialects.
As for your fictitious Oyo empire, the mystery surrounding how it existed is being unraveled. There are lots of misinformation like calling Grand Popo a Yoruba state. Many people gloss over the claims of Oyo empire but anyone who's patient to go through history books will see lots of inconsistencies in its stories.
Finally, David Hundeyin is a popular Egun man that won't even look in your direction if you call him Yoruba.
Here's a Wikipedia video of Egun language being spoken. Let people judge for themselves if Egun is a dialect of Yoruba or not. Everyone can also check on google to know the origin of Egun people whether it is Eastward (Yorubaland) or Westward towards Benin/Togo area.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gungbe_Wikipedia_Promotion.ogg
biaframaster200: 10:52am On Nov 25, 2024
owobokiri:

Our benevolent accommodators are accommodating the Eguns and co forcefully.
That is wrong. They're the real owners of Lagos.

Yes. Thanks you.

But you are neither Egun nor Awori person.

Allow these people to make their own decisions; they do not require your input.

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owobokiri(m): 12:48pm On Nov 25, 2024
biaframaster200:


Yes. Thanks you.

But you are neither Egun nor Awori person.

Allow these people to make their own decisions; they do not require your input.

Actually, we are saying the same thing. But When you tell Igbos to restrict themselves to their "5 plots of land", are you allowing Igbos in Rivers state and Delta State to claim their heritage? Since you guys set up your jan jawed APC party to spread evil and discontent around eastern Nigeria, all you do is to divide neighbors and siblings. Meanwhile your over celebrated jewel Lagos is not entirely a Yoruba enclave.

I think that rather than defending all the time when accused of grabbing territories, Igbos should step hard on the pedal and press the attack button. Egun are not Yorubas and Yorubas can not speak for Egun people. The Eguns should be allowed to vote on what they want. If it is freedom from Yoruba colonisation, then they should be left alone, together with their Lagos. It is what it is. The land grabbing of Egun territories should stop.

After all the capital of the South West is Ibadam and not Lagos. Yorubas should be encouraged to stick to ibadam as their regional capital and stop the desperate attempt to displace indigenous Lagos indigenous groups. But if the Eguns want to be subsumed by the real "attachee by force", they can then surrender to the greater Yoruba and loose their identity, if they're okay with that.

What is good for the ikwerre is also good for the Egun.
RedboneSmith(m): 12:51pm On Nov 25, 2024
The difference is that while the majority of Ikwerre people (not all of them) reject the Ìgbò identity, the same cannot be said of the Aworis who by and large have never rejected their Yoruba-ness.

The Eguns are not Yorubas, by the way. They don't claim to be, and one can look at their language and see that it is clearly non-Yoruboid.
Idonweak: 1:06pm On Nov 25, 2024
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owobokiri(m): 3:41pm On Nov 25, 2024
RedboneSmith:
The difference is that while the majority of Ikwerre people (not all of them) reject the Ìgbò identity, the same cannot be said of the Aworis who by and large have never rejected their Yoruba-ness.

The Eguns are not Yorubas, by the way. They don't claim to be, and one can look at their language and see that it is clearly non-Yoruboid.

Where and when did you conduct a referendum or vote to be so assured that "majority of ikwerre people reject the Igbo identity"??! How can you say the "majority" when there are ikwerrs so proud of their Igbo identity that they're vigorously asking for the leadership of Ohanaze?

Or someone comes online and picks a fake ikwerre identity and viola, whatever he says becomes the majority view of the ikwerres? And how are you sure that the Aworis and Eguns want to be part of Yoruba land? That they want to live peacefully in Lagos their homeland, doesn't necessarily mean they want to be Yorubas. Right?
biaframaster200: 3:51pm On Nov 25, 2024
owobokiri:


Actually, we are saying the same thing. But When you tell Igbos to restrict themselves to their "5 plots of land", are you allowing Igbos in Rivers state and Delta State to claim their heritage? Since you guys set up your jan jawed APC party to spread evil and discontent around eastern Nigeria, all you do is to divide neighbors and siblings. Meanwhile your over celebrated jewel Lagos is not entirely a Yoruba enclave.

I think that rather than defending all the time when accused of grabbing territories, Igbos should step hard on the pedal and press the attack button. Egun are not Yorubas and Yorubas can not speak for Egun people. The Eguns should be allowed to vote on what they want. If it is freedom from Yoruba colonisation, then they should be left alone, together with their Lagos. It is what it is. The land grabbing of Egun territories should stop.

After all the capital of the South West is Ibadam and not Lagos. Yorubas should be encouraged to stick to ibadam as their regional capital and stop the desperate attempt to displace indigenous Lagos indigenous groups. But if the Eguns want to be subsumed by the real "attachee by force", they can then surrender to the greater Yoruba and loose their identity, if they're okay with that.

What is good for the ikwerre is also good for the Egun.


Save yourself of all these epistle. ...
All these minority ethnic groups, such as
Ikwerre, Urhobo, and Ijaw, among others, have well-educated people who can speak for themselves. They do not need the assurance of any Yoruba people to represent them or become a keypad warrior on social media pages. In fact, the defense you are making is the last thing an average Yoruba man would do on social media...because it is none of his business. It is not the responsibility of Yorubas to speak for themselves. They can defend their ethnic identity on their own. It is not the responsibility of any Yoruba man who lives thousands of miles away from their ancestral land to defend them.

Some Ikwerre, IJaw,Efik, Ibibio, Benin, and other people have stated that they are not of the Igbo ethnic group, nor are they involved in the IPOB shenanigans....and you will agree with me that there is a right to association and assembly....allow these people to exercise their inalienable right.....

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grandstar(m): 4:06pm On Nov 25, 2024
Blue3k:
Anthropology and linguistics courses should be very popular subjects in Nigerian universities.

Hi ya
Long time.

What are your views regarding Trump's victory? Americans just threw themselves under the bus

The last time I felt this sad over an election was Buhari's reelection in 2019. The absolute disaster was re-elected for a second term

Trump does not need those tariffs to create jobs. The slash in incorporate tax to 19% would turbocharge the economy alone.

It is time companies should apply pressure on him not to implement those tariffs.

Retail chains for instance can enlighten the public of what a 60% tariffs entails. Most Americans either don't know what a tariff is or that the importer pays the cost and es it on to the consumer.

I think US companies should be proactive and not reactive. They should not fold their hands and do nothing.
Blue3k(m): 5:04pm On Nov 25, 2024
grandstar:


Hi ya
Long time.

What are your views regarding Trump's victory? Americans just threw themselves under the bus

The last time I felt this sad over an election was Buhari's reelection in 2019. The absolute disaster was re-elected for a second term

Trump does not need those tariffs to create jobs. The slash in incorporate tax to 19% would turbocharge the economy alone.

It is time companies should apply pressure on him not to implement those tariffs.

Ii
Retail chains for instance can enlighten the public of what a 60% tariffs entails. Most Americans either don't know what a tariff is or that the importer pays the cost and es it on to the consumer.

I think US companies should be proactive and not reactive. They should not fold their hands and do nothing.


I like Trumps policies for the most part. His immigration, energy, deregulation and foreign policy are better. We need to get our borders under control firstly by stopping welfare payments, next by getting rid of birthright citizenship for illegal aliens and then deport the people illegally in America 🇺🇸. The birthright citizenship will be done by the Supreme Court. The exception to birthright citizenship does include children of foreign invaders according to the Wong Kim Ark case in my opinion.

I don't like the Universal 10 tarrifs policy. There's going to be a deadweight cost regarding tariffs. Then we will have to deal with the increased cost of goods since we import items for the manufacturing process. Retaliatory tariffs will hurt our exports. Ladt time, he had to bail out farmers because who already received subsidies.

Anyway I do think he should opt to negotiate trade deals instead. The UK is starving for one after Brexit. If you do targeted tariffs it's always about national security not economic well-being of society. They usually benefit a few businesses who don't want competition like the domestic sugar industry.

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grandstar(m): 5:38pm On Nov 25, 2024
owobokiri:
Since the end of the war in 1970, there have been ceaseless and desperate attempts by federal Nigeria and the main beneficiaries of the unfortunate outcome of the war who reside in the South West and the north, to balkanize the former Eastern Nigeria. This has been done through all sorts of measures, including nebulous state creations and tricky boundary adjustments, that have carved out many Igbo communities at the peripheries, and handed them over as minorities to surrounding non Igbo speaking states.

These acts have led to a lot of marginalisations, segregations and taunts directed towards these set of Igbos. It has also led to a situation where the five South Eastern states have been neglected and deprived of deu royalties, allocations, appointments and all what not from the federal government. For instance in every project for development or sharing of resources in Nigeria, the South East states ALWAYS come last. ALL THE TIME! SINCE 1966!!!

Recently, An attempt by the Igbos in Delta state to have a new state created for them and to their kiths and kins in the South East, instigated a firestorm as many people especially from the ruling South West section of the APC, insisted that there are no indigenous Igbos in the Niger Delta. Even when these interlopers were reminded of the language and other cultural similarities between the Igbo speaking parts of the Niger Delta and the Igbos in the South East, they stuck to their guns.

My questions here are; since this view is popular in the South West, can we stretch the diabolical logic behind it by saying that the Aworis and Eguns are not Yorubas, especially now that these groups are desperately angling for a breathing space in Lagos their homeland? Since most interior Yorubas can't even understand whatever the Aworis speak, while most Igbos can easily understand the Ika dialect, can we insist that Lagos is not a Yoruba state but an Aworis and Eguns state, the same way some South westerners want us to believe that Ikwerres and Ikas are not Igbos but "Niger Deltans"?

I'm confused..


Yorubas never claimed Aworis as their own. It is the Aworis that claimed Yoruba. There's no need to be upset.

There are tribes in Edo state that are descendent from the Yorubas such as the Etsako and Ora people, yet we don't claim them as ours.

Yes, the Egun aren't Yorubas and Yorubas have never claimed them.

If Eguns have a problem with Yoruba people, it's about the Yorubas looking down at them. It's just very silly behavior. grin grin grin

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