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If Ikwerres Are Not Igbos, Aworis And Eguns Are Not Yorubas (2614 Views)
gabbytabby: 7:38pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
You have answered your own question without even realising it ikwere is ikwere, Awori is Awori and Egun is Egun similar to how Urhobo is Urhobo and Esan is Esan and Isioko is Isioko but the greedy and covetous are always looking to steal instead of respecting the individuality of everyone. Allow everyone to breath. They all just try to live in PEACEFUL coexistence. Let the neck stretchers relax. Common sense is not so common. owobokiri: 1 Like |
Ikinternational: 7:40pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
owobokiri: I'm the Mayor of Onitsha. Where is this secret location that doesn't have a name 🤔 Asi asi 🤣😂 My grandfather's property is still there sef at New Market Rd . That's how imbedded my family is at Onitsha. So easy with the lies..... |
owobokiri(m): 7:52pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
Ikinternational:I just told you the truth. Housing estate Onitsha. 2007. First real estate investment. Genuine hustle. Give me my respect, nwa out! Few years after travelling out. Fresh out of the uni. Set up couple of relatives. And I'm still young! Why would lie to you? You will never know me and I will never know you. Let that slide tho.. Back to topic Some Igbos need to be more purposeful. APC is a totally anti Igbo party and if the igbos don't start to agitate on time, next 100 years will be as terrible as last 100 years. |
Idonweak: 8:08pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
Yujin: You're so ignorant and stupid for this rubbish you wrote. Infact you're mad Kiddo lemme reinstate it in your dumb skull. I am from badagry and here the aworis' and the eguns' regard themselves as yoruba. The title of their king doesn't diminish their yorubaness. As every yoruba king had its own title. From the oni of ife, the soun of Ogbomosho, the olubadan of ibadan, the oluwo of iwo etc. So if the source of yoruba itself which is the oni has a dedicated title why will the oba of badagry own be different? Now let's go back to history kiddo, something you obviously lack. Oyo empire spread widely even to ghana. This itself makes the egun people more related to yoruba than. There are town in benin republic that practice proper ife tradition and customs e.g Kétou. So lil boy focus on your Biafra and keep South West out of your stinking mouth. 2 Likes |
Tigernut101: 8:42pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
[quote author=aribisala0 post=133016882] Your mother will shut up permanently in 7 days[/quote Your mother’s pussy will shut up in 21days Olodo |
Ikinternational: 8:43pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
owobokiri: Terrible is a bridge too far We don't run Abuja. Okay and so what The powers that be will never let that happen |
Blue3k(m): 8:45pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
Anthropology and linguistics courses should be very popular subjects in Nigerian universities.
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IyanAtiEgusi: 8:46pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
Blue3k:very useless courses ![]() |
delpee(f): 10:06pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
Aworis are from Ile Ife. History is clear on that. Eguns are a sub group of Yorubas like some others in Benin Republic, Togo, Ghana and Sierra Leone.
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Tranquill: 10:40pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
yoruboid: It’s really irritating and insulting when some idi0ts think that they are in a position to tell another people who they are or should be, and it is only Igbo people that think this is acceptable, but we understand their desperation. 2 Likes |
babasolution: 10:50pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
aribisala0: Prior to 1967,Festac and even orile were jungles,the Western government never had any development stride there,these areas were developed by the FG |
Yujin(m): 11:35pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
Idonweak:Shut your dirty stinky mouth there. You should learn how to talk to people with respect even if you don't agree with them. Here's a picture of the Akran of Badagry. Did you see a single Yoruba word there? You're very ignorant on this topic so endeavour to be cautious while engaging in it. Do you know the meaning of a single word in his name or even title? Of course, you don't know. Next time I'll attack you viciously if you talk anyhow to me. Don't be deceived when you see Yoruba authors add 'Oba' to his title. They have been doing this for a very long time just to subsume the Eguns but the people are rejecting it as you can see. Although so Eguns bear Yoruba names along side their own names, they know very well the difference. Anywhere you see a traditional leader among the Eguns having the title 'Oba' attached to it, check the author of that article. It must have been written by a Yoruba person. Thank God many Ogus(Eguns) are challenging it today. As for your fictitious Oyo empire, they never got anywhere close to Ghana. The farthest they got to is Atakpame, in today's Togo. The Ogus are closer to the trio of Fon, Aja and Ewes of Togo. Yorubas can't claim them. This is a topic I know so well.
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Yujin(m): 11:58pm On Nov 24, 2024 |
PulaPower:Lagos state TV station gives news in Egun language. You should listen to it and tell me if what they're speaking is a dialect of Yoruba. Here's a youtube link to clear you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4taB6tdtbA?si=JCuV09-bzQ7rskaE 1 Like |
Oboys12: 12:56am On Nov 25, 2024 |
This is my problem with the Igbos and why we the Ukwuanis of Delta State won't be ing the Igbos in the so called Anioma state. I love the Igbos but there is one fundamental problem it the Igbos and it is the desire to always force your narrative on others and it is very bad Ikwere said they are ikwere and not igbo so be it Ukwuani, Ika of Delta State says there are not Igbo so be it, the only part of Anioma that are pro Igbo is the Aniochas or you can call them Enuani that is the Asaba axis Our ancestors lived and died as Ukwuani and never Igbo and as a matter of Fact we have Igbo quarter, Yoruba quarter, Hausa quarter and even Ghana quarter in Obiaruku my hometown till date These are areas that are predominant dominated by these people. The Igbos have always being strangers in our land and are categorised among strangers till tomorrow. So why force your identity on us. Why should we be called Igbos all of a sudden why not Igbos being called Ukwuani or is it because Igbo are more populated therefore we should be incorporated into them, Bullshit As a matter of fact some part of Igbos migrated from Ukwuani to the present Anambra and Imo state 1 Like |
aribisala0(m): 1:09am On Nov 25, 2024 |
babasolution: Jungle? Do you have any idea what the whole of Nigeria looked. Like in 1967? There was not a single express road in THE WHOLE OF NIGERIA NOT ONE So everything is relative So if Badagry was a Jungle what did the SE look like? Being the monkey that you are you must know. The Western Region government was. ALWAYS the richest Easily verifiable The Western Regi9n developed the industrial base in Ikeja. Yes the country was backward but the Western Region was always ahead The first to own a TV Station,University etc So your stupid claim that areas were developed by FG Is bad belle States were created in 1967by a military government and the whole country was ruled by military government Ikeja Airport Hotel is part of the Odua group of companies dating back to the 60s Stop hating 1 Like |
helinues: 5:56am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Factcheck0001: That's the logical thing some of them don't understand. If you are indeed making money not online chest beating, no way you will be bitter about politics discussion |
babasolution: 7:01am On Nov 25, 2024 |
aribisala0: Your claim that because badagry n Festac was under Western government prior to 1967 so development in such areas were due to Western government is false and I corrected you on that simple.the Western government didn't develop those areas ,it was FG that did simple. |
Idonweak: 7:06am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Yujin: I told you I'm from badagray and you're asking me if i understand the words there? Dude i can speak the language. Meanwhile, how can something fictitious as you claimed still expand to togo? Also, don't just make stupid claims. Mention the nonetities Eguns that told you they're not yoruba. I'm waiting. You claim to know much on this topic but I'm sure you've never been to any Egun land before, a place you claim to know alot about .🤡 FYI, difference in language doesn't mean they don't have connection with the yoruba people. You keep talking about language. What about other factors, like their shared beliefs, customs and traditions, religion and even History. Why are do they bear Yoruba names if they don't regard themselves as yoruba? Genuinely ask yourself that question. I won't respect you because i hate clownery. You read stupid shit online and immediately proclaim yourself an expert in the topic. Also, Egun people use yoruba titles, "Oba","baale", "iyaloja","yeye oba", balogun and so on. This is not written by your "imagined" yoruba authors but by the Egun themselves. 1 Like |
owobokiri(m): 8:51am On Nov 25, 2024 |
helinues: Ómó mî, How area? Wishing you a successful week ahead. But Stop trying to defend a structure that was instituted to enslave my people in their own land. Everybody love god things. Food tidings Luv u |
aribisala0(m): 9:41am On Nov 25, 2024 |
PulaPower:They are not Yoruba We do not need to claim what is not ours |
aribisala0(m): 9:48am On Nov 25, 2024 |
babasolution:Where did I mention Festac You are an Idiot I mentioned 5 divisions not only Badagry All the development that happened up till 1967 BEFORE Lagos state was created was down to the Western Region that was my claim Did Festac exist in 1967?? Was there a single express road any where in Nigeria in 1967? No Is Badagry the only part I mentioned So why are you putting words I did not say in my mouth If I did not claim FESTAC you will die a painful death like a dog Nigeria as a whole had a certain development level in 1967 Ikeja Badagry Epe and Ikorodu were in the Western region until 1967 Whatever the level of those parts of Western Region In 1967 compare to Aba or Onitsha in 1967 or Enugu or Port Harcourt In that same 1967 |
babasolution: 9:54am On Nov 25, 2024 |
aribisala0: Irreverent curses go back to sender Western government had very little development contribution to LAGOS, all the areas previously under Western government in LAGOS today except Ikeja are the less developed part of LAGOS today,the FG finished worked in LAGOS |
Yujin(m): 10:29am On Nov 25, 2024 |
Idonweak:I repeat, Egun is not a dialect of Yoruba. Rather, it is considered a dialect of Fon. Though they've shared centuries of intermarriages and cohabitation with Yorubas in and around the Benin/Nigerian border and have borrowed a couple of things from each other, Egun still retains most of its originality. The origin of their ancestry points towards Benin/Togo border and not Eastwards into Yorubaland. The same Egun people own Porto-Novo which Yoruba people call Ajase. There are other Egun communities in Lagos and Ogun state. Ikoga-Zebbe is a well known Egun community close to the Ogun state border just north of Badadgry. As we all know, you can't find a single Yoruba word with letter 'z' because it doesn't exist in Yoruba language and all her dialects. As for your fictitious Oyo empire, the mystery surrounding how it existed is being unraveled. There are lots of misinformation like calling Grand Popo a Yoruba state. Many people gloss over the claims of Oyo empire but anyone who's patient to go through history books will see lots of inconsistencies in its stories. Finally, David Hundeyin is a popular Egun man that won't even look in your direction if you call him Yoruba. Here's a Wikipedia video of Egun language being spoken. Let people judge for themselves if Egun is a dialect of Yoruba or not. Everyone can also check on google to know the origin of Egun people whether it is Eastward (Yorubaland) or Westward towards Benin/Togo area. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gungbe_Wikipedia_Promotion.ogg |
biaframaster200: 10:52am On Nov 25, 2024 |
owobokiri: Yes. Thanks you. But you are neither Egun nor Awori person. Allow these people to make their own decisions; they do not require your input. 1 Like |
owobokiri(m): 12:48pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
biaframaster200: Actually, we are saying the same thing. But When you tell Igbos to restrict themselves to their "5 plots of land", are you allowing Igbos in Rivers state and Delta State to claim their heritage? Since you guys set up your jan jawed APC party to spread evil and discontent around eastern Nigeria, all you do is to divide neighbors and siblings. Meanwhile your over celebrated jewel Lagos is not entirely a Yoruba enclave. I think that rather than defending all the time when accused of grabbing territories, Igbos should step hard on the pedal and press the attack button. Egun are not Yorubas and Yorubas can not speak for Egun people. The Eguns should be allowed to vote on what they want. If it is freedom from Yoruba colonisation, then they should be left alone, together with their Lagos. It is what it is. The land grabbing of Egun territories should stop. After all the capital of the South West is Ibadam and not Lagos. Yorubas should be encouraged to stick to ibadam as their regional capital and stop the desperate attempt to displace indigenous Lagos indigenous groups. But if the Eguns want to be subsumed by the real "attachee by force", they can then surrender to the greater Yoruba and loose their identity, if they're okay with that. What is good for the ikwerre is also good for the Egun. |
RedboneSmith(m): 12:51pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
The difference is that while the majority of Ikwerre people (not all of them) reject the Ìgbò identity, the same cannot be said of the Aworis who by and large have never rejected their Yoruba-ness. The Eguns are not Yorubas, by the way. They don't claim to be, and one can look at their language and see that it is clearly non-Yoruboid. |
Idonweak: 1:06pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
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owobokiri(m): 3:41pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
RedboneSmith: Where and when did you conduct a referendum or vote to be so assured that "majority of ikwerre people reject the Igbo identity"??! How can you say the "majority" when there are ikwerrs so proud of their Igbo identity that they're vigorously asking for the leadership of Ohanaze? Or someone comes online and picks a fake ikwerre identity and viola, whatever he says becomes the majority view of the ikwerres? And how are you sure that the Aworis and Eguns want to be part of Yoruba land? That they want to live peacefully in Lagos their homeland, doesn't necessarily mean they want to be Yorubas. Right? |
biaframaster200: 3:51pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
owobokiri: Save yourself of all these epistle. ... All these minority ethnic groups, such as Ikwerre, Urhobo, and Ijaw, among others, have well-educated people who can speak for themselves. They do not need the assurance of any Yoruba people to represent them or become a keypad warrior on social media pages. In fact, the defense you are making is the last thing an average Yoruba man would do on social media...because it is none of his business. It is not the responsibility of Yorubas to speak for themselves. They can defend their ethnic identity on their own. It is not the responsibility of any Yoruba man who lives thousands of miles away from their ancestral land to defend them. Some Ikwerre, IJaw,Efik, Ibibio, Benin, and other people have stated that they are not of the Igbo ethnic group, nor are they involved in the IPOB shenanigans....and you will agree with me that there is a right to association and assembly....allow these people to exercise their inalienable right..... 2 Likes |
grandstar(m): 4:06pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
Blue3k: Hi ya Long time. What are your views regarding Trump's victory? Americans just threw themselves under the bus The last time I felt this sad over an election was Buhari's reelection in 2019. The absolute disaster was re-elected for a second term Trump does not need those tariffs to create jobs. The slash in incorporate tax to 19% would turbocharge the economy alone. It is time companies should apply pressure on him not to implement those tariffs. Retail chains for instance can enlighten the public of what a 60% tariffs entails. Most Americans either don't know what a tariff is or that the importer pays the cost and es it on to the consumer. I think US companies should be proactive and not reactive. They should not fold their hands and do nothing. |
Blue3k(m): 5:04pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
grandstar: I like Trumps policies for the most part. His immigration, energy, deregulation and foreign policy are better. We need to get our borders under control firstly by stopping welfare payments, next by getting rid of birthright citizenship for illegal aliens and then deport the people illegally in America 🇺🇸. The birthright citizenship will be done by the Supreme Court. The exception to birthright citizenship does include children of foreign invaders according to the Wong Kim Ark case in my opinion. I don't like the Universal 10 tarrifs policy. There's going to be a deadweight cost regarding tariffs. Then we will have to deal with the increased cost of goods since we import items for the manufacturing process. Retaliatory tariffs will hurt our exports. Ladt time, he had to bail out farmers because who already received subsidies. Anyway I do think he should opt to negotiate trade deals instead. The UK is starving for one after Brexit. If you do targeted tariffs it's always about national security not economic well-being of society. They usually benefit a few businesses who don't want competition like the domestic sugar industry. 1 Like |
grandstar(m): 5:38pm On Nov 25, 2024 |
owobokiri: Yorubas never claimed Aworis as their own. It is the Aworis that claimed Yoruba. There's no need to be upset. There are tribes in Edo state that are descendent from the Yorubas such as the Etsako and Ora people, yet we don't claim them as ours. Yes, the Egun aren't Yorubas and Yorubas have never claimed them. If Eguns have a problem with Yoruba people, it's about the Yorubas looking down at them. It's just very silly behavior. ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
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