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Amotolongbo:
hmmm

Different beliefs and perspectives define the same concept and location differently. Is there anything missing?

Almost all religions acknowledge the existence of a second heaven, including traditional worshippers, Muslims, and various Christian denominations, except for Jehovah's Witnesses, who have a different perspective. Even traditional African religions recognize multiple spiritual realms. This widespread belief across different faiths raises intriguing questions about the nature of the heavens and why such a concept is so deeply embedded in human spirituality. It also brings up the possibility that these perspectives might be shaped by cultural, historical, and theological influences rather than just doctrinal differences. What do you think?

muyico:
verse?

Verses in the Bible where angels appear with swords, have mentioned one up there, Numbers 22:23, 1 Chronicles 21:16, but Genesis 3:24 is the most direct reference to an angelic flaming sword.

muyico:
u said why angel hold sword in heaven?

Flaming sword represents Angel in the Bible man

Amotolongbo:
That begs the question,
Where is heaven?

I think it was define based on different beliefs
My own Perspective: Many religious traditions describe heaven as a divine realm where God or gods reside, often depicted as being above the earth or in another spiritual dimension beyond human comprehension

muyico:
he said flaming ⚔️ sword, not angel holding 🗡️ sword
And d garden located on earth, not heaven! So let me know Ur Tik?

What's different?

Amotolongbo:
Which heaven?

The concept of heaven was developed when the people thought (misconception) the earth was flat and has a layer above it (heaven) which happenings in it was concealed from the earth by the firmament.

I heard Heaven is often described as the throne of God, where He rules over creation.The Lord has established His throne in heaven, and His kingdom rules over all. (Psalm 103:19) Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool.” (Isaiah 66:1)

muyico:
I never c angel b4, I only c acting angel in movie, holding sword!

Does that mean you're not a Christian or you don't read Bible
Genesis 3:24 – After Adam and Eve were expelled from the Garden of Eden: After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

muyico:
This one don watch film tired
Movie brain washed his brains, I knw u will also blived in ghost 👻 buying bread and akara , eat inside 🪦 grave,nah so I watch one film, 👻 ghost buy pure water and drinks

You people always take things as a joke in this space, but these are matters we should reflect on, share ideas, and learn from. Instead of dismissing them, we should have meaningful discussions that broaden our understanding.

Amotolongbo:
Very good question.

That is to tell you these are all fables

People say some fables are based on real events or lessons, but I believe they never reveal the true story behind heaven.

If heaven na safe place, why angels dey carry sword

stacyadams:


Trust I entrusted over a mil to my brother,the werey chop am,I even had to borrow tfare back to lag.i don't talk to the idiot no more

😂

idahme:



Don't take anything you read online as gospel truth, that case was hiding your assets from gold digging wife and not your case. Your finances is what makes you a man, don't hand it over to anyone except when you a re protecting your assets from other people

I was was so weak during those years, I thought manhood solely by finances is a shallow perspective. Character, integrity, and emotional intelligence, now I have realized that a true financial wisdom isn’t just about hoarding money but knowing when and how to invest.

Maj196:
Rule 1: When it comes to money, never trust anyone not even yourself

I have learnt my life lesson in hard way now

SWATMan:


There's no way you can come out of this mess unscathed. Now you will be blackmailed over the years you spent with them taking care of you, and you will be branded as an ingrate . In life, lay not your trust on anyone but God. You can't win this war, that's the way it is, things will never be the same again. [b]One thing you did not realize on time is that your mom has a better relationship with your sister than you. [/b]She couldn't have given her that money if they weren't really close. You may have been a burden to them without you knowing. Mum's l know, would have questioned why her husband could not fund her desire to further her education even if she knew you kept your savings with her. If you insist on the money, you are done for unless you make a big break in life. Wish you the best.

Yeah, I know that for cos she's her only daughter out 4 boys
Appreciate your kind words brother

Mariangeles:


Before giving him this bad advice, did you consider that he had been living with his brother in-law (his mother and sister aside) for FOUR GOOD YEARS?
Living under his roof, and eating his food for free, and probably contributing little to nothing.
Did you consider that? Put yourself in the brother in-law's place and reason it.

Did you just say I'm contributing nothing?

This is the same family I've always ed financially whenever I'm stable. People often say that you only truly know yourself when you're broke.

Afolue:
there is a proverb that says “how I wish my parents were alive is a foolish thing to say”! A good mother will rally round to raise that money back for you and even add to it knowing fully well you are in need of it at this time. this is what can make one commit felony on a loved one out of anger and frustration. After it happens the useless authorities will not care to look into what really resulted to the act, if it was the person’s fault 💯 or not. All one will be hearing in the news is that a young man has killed his parents. May it never be our portion.

Young man, very sorry for all these. It’s quite unfortunate all you have experienced. What I can advise is that just take it as the rent you paid while living with them. Forfeit it, they are your family. Don’t fight anyone or have grudges. God know why.! You had thought they were there when you needed them but unfortunately, they have collected the pay. Did you bother asking your sister about it directly what your mother told you? Your mum did badly for not letting you know before making such decisions. This can not be a woman that wish you well. Avoid her at all cost in order to progress in life. Thrive to get a place no matter how demeaning. It’s for the mean time. Pick any work, don’t look down on any for now. Plan on getting married soon, to overcome distractions any longer. Not all parents are good.

Thanks for your kind words words brother 🙏

PantShifter:


So you had this problem which you should have been focusing on solving but instead you were opening a thread to fight Samantha!

Who doesn’t have personal struggles, aside from the collective challenges we’re all facing in the country right now? Or Does Samantha told you she doesn't has her personal issues apart from trolling Nigerian here?
Everyone is dealing with something, whether it's stress, uncertainty, or silent battles no one sees. Life has a way of testing us all in different ways.

carl90:
If the whole family is against you ,involve human rights .
I think you will find them in a police station close to you.

I have called one of my friends which is a police officer

JAOS:
Next time put your money in the bank you should not expect anyone to keep that amount of money without touching it you didn't tell her you will be needing the money soon at least you should have given her like 3 months notice so it is also your fault

I have learnt my life lesson

carl90:
At this point ,you have to behave like a mad man.
Get other family and ensure that your mother ,sister and husband refund your cash back to you or they withdraw that quit notice .
Na for under bridge you go sleep ?
I guess if you decide to be a gentleman in this matter ,it is that under bridge that you will sleep.
Wishing you all the best.

My sister's husband and I almost got into a fight today, and now everyone in the family 're focusing only on the negative side of what I said.

genkins:


Are you a footballer?

Bro, my chest feels so heavy, I almost cracked a rib.

Wisdomites:
I won't blame you but you shouldn't have kept your money with your mom.

See sometimes as a man you forgot women are emotional too, she may even give it to her pastor to run his business and pay her later.

You have learned a lesson, next time you act manly with your finances.

I entrusted her with my savings, believing it was the right thing to do. After all, I’ve seen footballers entrust their mothers with their wealth, and it never seemed like a bad idea. I thought a mother’s love would come with responsibility and care, but now, I’m starting to question if I was wrong to trust so easily.

carl90:
From what you narrated ,the family mentioned are all taking you for granted .
Did your mother really give out your money just like that?
Have you informed her of the quit notice issued to you ?
If she is aware of all these and still nonchalant , the pertinent question to ask is if she is really your mother .
Anyway , involve other family and explain to them what happened .
I believe good old common sense will prevail at the end .

She's telling me that after all, she has given me a little out of it whenever I asked, like that justifies everything. She knew about the quick eviction, yet she still chose to withhold what was meant for me. It’s not just about the money anymore; it’s the betrayal, the disregard, the way she’s messing with my mental health like it means nothing.

NasirIbnLaAhad:
I'm curious, why did you decide to entrust all your earnings in the hand of your mom?

I was weak, physically, mentally, and emotionally. I saw nothing wrong in entrusting my mom with money; after all, she’s my mother. But what I thought was a simple act of trust has turned into something completely different, something I never saw coming. Now, I find myself questioning everything. Was I too naive? Did I misplace my trust? The weight of disappointment sits heavily on my chest, and the very bond I believed was unbreakable now feels strained. Sometimes, the people we expect to protect us are the ones who unknowingly hurt us the most.

I want to share my predicament here so people can understand what I am going through.

I started living with my sister and her family four years ago when things were going well for me. At the time, I had a job, though it wasn’t paying much, but because I was living with my sister’s family, I had the opportunity to save up to 90% of my salary. Over two years, I managed to save up to ₦500,000, which I entrusted to my mother to keep for me.

My troubles began when I decided to retrieve the money for rent, only for my mother to tell me she had lent it to my sister (the one I was staying with). Apparently, she used the money to pay for her master’s degree. I was completely devastated. Despite my disappointment, I tried to accept my fate and move on.

However, things have been very difficult ever since. The steady flow of money I once had dried up. I eventually lost my job, and since then, I have been unable to secure another one. The only thing keeping me going is my small pig farming business, but it hasn’t started yielding profits. Last year, I was in a very tough financial spot, so I began asking my mother for my money bit by bit. She would sometimes give me ₦10k, ₦20k, or ₦30k, but it was never consistent, and I never got the full amount back.

Recently, something happened that has made my situation even worse. My brother-in-law (my sister’s husband) told me I needed to find my own place before next month. This caught me completely off guard because I am not financially prepared for it. Out of frustration, I confronted him about the money my mother gave to my sister, but he insisted he had no knowledge of it. This has caused serious conflict within the family.

Now, I am stuck. I have nowhere to go, no money for rent, and not even enough to buy a bed, let alone furnish a place. I feel betrayed, abandoned, and helpless. I don’t know what to do or where to turn.

Please, my Nairaland family, I need your advice. What should I do in this situation? How do I navigate this mess? I’m really desperate and need help.

FreeSpirited:
For you to write about a faceless entity nobody cares about who probably dint notice u, might mean u are in love or obsessed with the person.
..
How can a Nairaland profile take such space in ur mind..

In my mind you say?
My heart isn't big enough to accommodate someone like her, given her limited understanding. If you've come across her comments and likes on Nairaland, you'll understand what I mean.

Stop generalizing an entire ethnic group based on the actions of a few politicians. Tinubu does not represent all Yorubas, Peter Obi does not speak for all Igbos, and Atiku is not the sole voice of the North. Criticize politicians and their parties directly, but don’t turn political discourse into an avenue for ethnic prejudice.

Nigeria’s progress depends on unity, not division. We must hold our leaders able without fueling tribalism. Let's focus on policies, integrity, and competence rather than ethnicity. A better Nigeria is built on reason, not resentment.

Stop generalizing an entire ethnic group based on the actions of a few politicians. Tinubu does not represent all Yorubas, Peter Obi does not speak for all Igbos, and Atiku is not the sole voice of the North. Criticize politicians and their parties directly, but don’t turn political discourse into an avenue for ethnic prejudice.

Nigeria’s progress depends on unity, not division. We must hold our leaders able without fueling tribalism. Let's focus on policies, integrity, and competence rather than ethnicity. A better Nigeria is built on reason, not resentment.

SuperOnyi:







How's that guy the OP?

He hide his sense for yansh!

advanceDNA:


Why una dey give these pple attention..??

I hate the fact that she always has Nigeria on her wagging tongue, constantly speaking ill as if there's nothing good about the country, while her own nation is drowning in hatred, agony, and anguish.

Sapiens3:
Who's Samantha?

One South African clown in the form of human
Just wait for it, she will soon come for me

Sapiens3:


No not at all after that ridiculous pricing from him I think I will bro

Aii