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Chilipepper: "My mommy used to count the number of salt" kind of vibe. |
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Familymatterss: As some guys have advised you, don't ask her out. Just try to get close to her and joke with her whenever you see her. Then slowly make her feel comfortable coming into your room or just invite her over to watch a movie with you. |
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Biodun1929: Not a doctor o but I feel the reason your aunt feels tired all the time might actually be because of her habit of drinking Coke and constantly injecting insulin afterward. 1 Like |
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Emaboss: Hey, I've been meaning to write you a response, it's just that I haven't the time or motivation to write a long ass response but I'll give you this. When you say "Confidence to even talk" I'm assuming you mean talk to girls. Before I started approach girls, I had to let go of this ego/pride mindset that approaching a girl puts you at the risk of inflating a girl's self esteem/ego at the expense of yours. Which is a coping mechanism by the way and one that's seemingly wrong because your self esteem shouldn't come from external sources. Stoicism helped me realise that. Another thing it helped me with is discovering the definition of confidence which is: Confidence is knowing that even if the outcome doesn't go the way you wanted, you are okay. Asin nothing spoil. She didn't respond well? Fine, you didn't die. It didn't take anything from you. And that's what you need to train your brain and your mind to understand. Most guys that have anxiety talking to women have it because they think too much about the outcome. They see a fine girl, their minds immediately brings different scenarios of the girl rejecting them and they end up not approaching or saying what they want to say. Which means they just put their brain through episodes of brutal rejections just for nothing. Meaning they suffer more in imagination than in reality. Trust me, bro, understanding this mindset takes time but you need to uninstall whatever operating system your mind is working on now and install this. Confidence is a state where you trust yourself that no matter the outcome you will be able to handle it because you have been handling all uncertainty that life has thrown at you since the day you were born. There are a lot of things I want to say about this and when I explain things, I like to break down the process bit by bit. I don't like giving half answers. I like to pour out all that's in my mind and it makes me understand my thinking process better. Plus I wish someone had explained this to me when I was just starting out. That's why I said I was going to make a thread but I don't think I can at the moment. Hope you can make something out of this response. 2 Likes |
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Funny. I had this same experience when I was in SS2 during one maths olympiad competition. The invigilator said "10 minutes more". Then I looked at my answer sheet and I saw I was in question 16 out of 50. The tension was too much.
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PP123: Why do you say that bro? |
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Mikel99: When I say smell I think you know I mean the two kind. BO and MO. Some people brush twice a day but still have MO. So you might have to go a step further. Do you floss daily? Do you use mouthwash? Do you use tongue scraper? If you are very sure you don't smell at all then your problem most likely lies in your body language and your conversational skill. Also one thing you can note is that people usually like to spend time with people who make them feel good about themselves but that doesn't mean you should start giving out compliments anyhow (because that will create the opposite effect). Like I said the key is being playful. Make fun of things about them that they won't take personal. For example just yesterday I was on a queue and there was a tall fine girl that was one person in front of me (she was the same height as me). Without thinking I just said "Fine girl, you are very tall o" with a playful tone then she turned, looked at me and smiled... then I kept poking fun at her height and she was very open to talk. Another thing is you should know how to poke fun at yourself. Don't take things and yourself seriously. If you have fun spending time with yourself, people will also have fun spending time with you. Once you have this mindset your body language will naturally take note and you will be more relaxed. Another thing is you should focus more on things that are in your control and pay less attention to people's reaction. You will also need this mindset if you really want to be playful. Hope this helps. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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Mikel99: Have you checked to see if you are giving off any offensive odor. It's not something that people will have the confidence to tell you and you might not even be aware of it. Once you are sure you smell nice all the time then next thing to do is... You should be aware not everyone is comfortable with strangers (it might be because they are shy, not in the mood to talk, or they are trying not to say something messed-up e.t.c). If you want to stand out, it's up to you to make them comfortable talking to you. Have a smile on your face and be aware of the tone of your voice (you want a playful tone) when you are talking to them and learn how to make fun of them to amuse yourself. I call this "Playful Banter". Sometimes when I make eye with girls I give them a wink. The key is just be playful. You said you are usually cheerful. I don't know what that means to you but I suggest you switch it out for being playful. Your body language is also something you should keep in mind. If none of these tips work then it's just better you accept things as they are. Meaning as far as your smell nice, worrying about how to get people to like you is outside your control and you should better turn your focus on things you can control. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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imustsaymymindo: Let me be sure we are on the same page. Did you read the initial post I wrote that prompted Martinez to ask me those questions? 1 Like |
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imustsaymymindo: I'm not really satisfied with your answer. If alpha f*ck is really based only on physical attractiveness, why do women need to shit test men when physical attractiveness is pretty obvious, as in you know when someone is fine or not. You don't need to do a test for that. Why does she shit test men when she is in her alpha f*ck phase? After all, in your opinion, she is just looking for someone with good genes. If she is just looking for a guy with good genes why does she need to shit test him especially when she hasn't seen him with other women. Why does physical attractiveness in male (apart from facial structure) mostly consist of broad shoulders, deep voice, v-taper, height (mostly things that evolutionarily shows that he can provide) why not fat ass, sexy hips, soft voice etc? 1 Like |
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imustsaymymindo: Like for example I asked why do you think women shit test or do you think they don't shit test alphas too. 1 Like |
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imustsaymymindo: Ask specific questions let me see what I can do. |
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imustsaymymindo: Okay if I understand correctly, in your opinion, the alpha f*ck side of the equation is mostly about physical attractiveness while the other three qualities don't matter as much right? Well I can only agree with you if you can explain why women shit test? Also what do you think Rollo meant by "Women would rather share an alpha male than be with a faithful beta male" Why do women start seeking betas just around the time alphas are no longer interested in messing around with them? Secondly one thing you should understand is it's not how a man looks that makes him alpha. It's how he behaves. You said it yourself that both an alpha male and a beta male can be physically attractiven which is true. What separates them is their behavior and attitude. It's is of my opinion that no man can possess all those three characteristics and still be a beta male. Most people who are seen as alpha in any sector in life exhibit this characteristics in that sector e.g very successful C.E.O, leaders, very wealthy business men etc. but it doesn't mean they have those characteristics when it comes to women. They just have those characteristics in their line of work that's why they are seen as alphas there. Also when I say "Responsibility" I don't mean financial responsibility I think I mentioned that before. "Alpha - the guy that every girl wants to f*ck, and every guy wanna be" This statement alone contains many things that at first are not at obvious to the eyes. For example why do you think this quote didn't include " and a guy that wants to f*ck other girls"? Was it a coincidence or was he trying to tell you where the line is? You might have the intention to f*ck other girls but the moment you say it with your mouth you have failed. You can demonstrate but don't tell. That's where the "Charming" quality comes in. Women want you to have standards but they also want to fit into those standards so they can feel special. When you decide to pay attention to her when you could have decided to give it to someone else. This is why sometimes women give shit test like "I bet you say that to other girls" or "How many girls have you slept with" once they suspect you are a player and you fail once you give them an honest answer. That's why it's better to frame things as other girls are chasing you than for you to frame it as you are chasing other girls. Honestly my thoughts are all over the place and it's not easy to break all this things down over text so let me just pause here. I'm not sure I'm mentally able to touch on all the things you said in just one post. 4 Likes |
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Martinez39s: I'm always happy to share my view especially with someone as knowledgeable as yourself. I will try my best to answer your questions as best as I can from my own perspective. First of all I think we need to start from the top. The goal (for a lack of better term) of human life is survival. Every organism or species's basic goal is to survive. Reproduction is a form of survival meaning a part of you remains in this world after you die. Which is why every living thing reproduces. Now although the need to reproduce is also in women, they are also exposed to more risk during pregnancy and after pregnancy. e.g death during childbirth, inability to fend for themselves and defend against danger during pregnancy, inability to acquire resources to take care of her offsprings and her needs due to being less developed physically than the opposite sex. Her male counterparts on the other hand don't have these issues. He can go about spreading his seeds as much as he wants. Which is why they say men are polygamous. A man can f*ck an attractive girl and also an unattractive girl. It's a game of numbers to him even though through evolution he knows the type of women more likely to give him healthy offsprings he still might not care cause it's a numbers game to him. Which is why you don't really say men are hypergamous. Men also don't need women to provide resources for them because they are physically built to do that. They just need women that can take care of the domestic stuff while they go out hunting and gathering. It's not that women are actually look for two mates to fulfill the dual aspect of their mating strategy. It's just that finding a mate that embodies the two (alpha f*ck, beta buck) is really difficult. They would prefer a mate who is an alpha to commit to them but that is easier said than done because most alphas are more interested in spreading their seeds. Which is why it is necessary to split.
Physical attractiveness is not ranked the highest in of female mating strategy because our bodies are not the vessels that carry the offsprings. What is more important for women is how you behave during pregnancy and after her pregnancy because those are the times she is most vulnerable, which is why she has to shit test you to really know if you possess those qualities. There really is no rank per say. Physical attractiveness is also among the qualities that women look for because nobody intentionally wants to create an ugly offspring. They would like to give their offspring the best qualities in order to ensure their long term survival and reproductive advantage. So the ranking of those three is really arbitrary but if you don't possess any of those three qualities, women won't look your way. A man can't even be alpha if he doesn't possess all three. Being fit is also an evolutionary sign to women that you are capable of defending and providing resources for her. Also you being physically attractive and giving her attention is a way of making her feel special because you could have given your attention to any other girl but you chose her Yes that's what happens when the man can't fulfill the alpha f*ck part of the equation yet he has the financial resources to take care of her and her offsprings (beta buck)
Yes but if she can find a better option than him that can fulfill both equations of her mating strategy she won't
Which is why I said physically attractiveness doesn't rank high for women. What's more important to them is how you behave during pregnancy (whether the child is yours or not) and after pregnancy. Women marry because that's the best option she has at the moment that can at least fulfill a part of her dual mating strategy 4 Likes 1 Share |
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😂😂 the redpill is a praxeology. The topic being debated has roots in biology and neuroscience but of course you don't expect someone with the comprehension skill of a two year old child to know the difference. Anyway let me continue jerking off to my books. 1 Like |
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CaveAdullam: This is very easy to understand. A man can Bleep an unattractive woman and still cum same thing can't be said about women. Between a dog you give a bland bone to and it devours it in seconds, salivate and still ask you for more. And an other dog who won't eat the bland bone like that, unless you cook the bone to a certain degree then put other things on top of the bone before it can eat it. Who would you say enjoys bone more. I know where he is coming from but he is not smart enough to debate his case which is why he resorts to shaming tactics. 6 Likes |
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Dizzyyish: Correction taken 1 Like |
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Martinez39s: I understand sha. I just couldn't resist the temptation to push his button lol. |
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Rizzputin: Lol no problem sir. Quote me when you are no longer retarded. 3 Likes |
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Rizzputin: Lol okay casanova. I think I know what the problem is. It's your level of comprehension which I realize is something you have to solve by yourself. So this is my final attempt to break it down and make it easier for you to understand. You said here "Women have more sexual pleasure than men" (Which is a generalization) "Sexual pleasure is about enjoyment, depth and satisfaction." Now I ask. What is more satisfying during sex than an orgasm? Secondly between men and women who generally ends up reaching orgasm more during sex? So Mr. Casanova. Like I said what you have is a comprehension problem and your sole experience and the hypothesis you formed from it doesn't count in the grand scheme of things. 2 Likes |
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Rizzputin: I agree with caveadullam's take but you might be right about some of the things you said. For example you said Sex drive and Sexual pleasure are not the same which is true but in both case, it's still men that top. In order for you to realize that, ask yourself what is the ratio of men to women that reach orgasm during sex and that will reveal the answer on who experiences more sexual pleasure. Now, I don't know if women have the potential to experience more sexual pleasure than men because the way they get turned on is a little different than men and most men don't know how to turn women on, so that might be the reason. So, all in all, your hypothesis is just based off your own experience which is limiting. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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Martinez39s: Alright my G. I'm open to any discussion as far as it will further extend my understanding of the topic. Happy New Year to you too bro and Happy Red New Year to all the Redpillers in the house. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
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Uptheante: Lol all this is easier said than done. Come back to reality bro. |
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Pukkalolo: Alright bro. I figured this was what you were talking about because that's kind of what I do too. I call it "Playful Banter" and of recent I stumbled on one of Harddon's thread and we all pretty much have the same concept in mind but just maybe different mode of execution and different names we call the concept. I look forward to your complete breakdown of the concept because I recently came to it's realization after I started cold approaching so I'm still getting used to it. In the beginning of my cold approach journey I used to ask boring questions but I'm happy that I was able to figure it out on my own. Then I realized that's the same concept a bunch of people have been talking about but I couldn't understand because they weren't clear on what one should do. That's why I decided to call mine playful banter because I feel it best describes the concept better and I have a post I'm working on that explains it but I look forward to your breakdown of the concept. I would like to learn one or two. Peace. 2 Likes |
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tobby20: 😂😂. Who are you? How did you know cold is killing me this December. Nice one bro. You are one funny clown 🤡. |
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Bandirao: I'm an introvert and I used to be a shy one but then I started cold approaching girls and discovered stoicism. Now I don't feel uncomfortable around people anymore. Sometimes I try to go but to my shell but my routine prevents me from doing that. For example one of my routines is to greet everybody is see on the road. Forget what people say approaching girls on the streets or any place is the best way to build up your confidence because it translates to other areas of your life. I'm planning to create a thread on cold approaching later on cause I know there are some people that will need it. 4 Likes |
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OG316: Yeah so I'm not ready to share the post yet. I'm still working on it but the least i can say is it's playful banter. It's kinda of like what you do with your guys but with girls you might have to tone it down a little. The difference between it and an insult is the tone of your voice and also you say it with a smile. That's how I build rapport with girls I approach, and with girls in general. When I share the post you will understand better. 6 Likes |
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ViperX: Yeah I think that's it. I even have a post that I have worked on and saved that explains my own way to covertly communicate the IDGAF attitude. I just want him to explain what his own way is so that we can learn and understand better and maybe add to ours. 1 Like |
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Pukkalolo: Yeah so I agree with some of the things you said most especially this part. The parts I don't agree with are not really worth arguing about but what I want to know is how do you bleep with a woman's emotion to get her emotional attached. You might have felt that this post was going to be too long so you didn't explain better what you meant. So please create another post for this and please try to reduce as much ambiguity as possible. Thanks. 1 Like |
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I usually don't like to give advice to women because I have learnt not to give advice to them unless they specifically ask you to. That also goes for people in general. But this is the Internet and I don't know who might need this. So... There are three types of men or should I say people. The ones that give you fish The ones that teach you how to fish The ones that don't give you fish Out of these three, the one that gives you value, uplifts you and has your best interest in mind is the one in the middle. This is all I can say. A word is enough for the wise. 1 Like |
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luminouz: Lol I don't think there is any way of knowing. Women are very good at pretending. Even if you don't perform up to the standard of her past lovers as long as she wants something from you she won't show it. She can still get the other one outside. Your safest bet is to marry a virgin but you know that doesn't guarantee that she won't cheat but the streets is scary bro. Maybe you should try prayers. I know you don't pray enough lol. |
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luminouz: Yeah bro that's actually what's up |
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