NewStats: 3,261,702 , 8,174,837 topics. Date: Friday, 30 May 2025 at 08:20 AM c5z4d

ubunja:
the only problem is that you want to go from zero to smooth conversations with pretty girls. Doesn't work like that. You've to start at the bottom bro. You can't run before you can walk. You can't walk before you can crawl. You can't crawl before you can sit.

How do you begin at the bottom?

If you're like any typical gent you're aiming for the top pretty girls that catch your eye. Which is actually where you're getting it wrong. The secret to smooth conversations with the ladies is how RELAXED you yourself are. The more relaxed you are the more fire will be your conversation. Now ,the pretty girls intimate you. Which makes you anxious. Which kills your conversation.

I propose that you forget about these very cute girls for a moment.

Aim a little lower.

You know those girls that you hardly look at twice.cause they're not your type and class? Who you don't have any approach anxiety with. Who you can be free around and you can say anything to without any fear? Those are the girls you need to practice on. Hang out with them and use them to sharpen your skills. (Mind you, these are the same type/class of women you must be [secretly] screwing as target practice- but that's a story for another time)

You can't go from being terrible at talking to girls to having a flawless mouthpiece all in one go. Conversation skills, like all skills, must be cultivated through patient practice. And you don't practice on the very girls you want cause failure here will deal a blow to your confidence and self-esteem. Begin way down the ladder with girls you have nothing to lose with. Then as you become good at it start ri the ladder engaging with better and better girls.

We live in a fast world and people want quick fixes and shortcuts. But given that a smooth mouthpiece is something you'll benefit from your whole life, it's worth it to invest your time and energy in perfecting it the right way.

BUTTTTTT.......
If my advice is too much and you're more after quick solutions, then your best bet is in fact to move FASTER. Approach anxiety is down to OVERTHINKING. The antidote is SPEED. the moment you spot your target you move in swiftly before your brain catches up and starts throwing up rationalizations: she's too pretty, you don't stand a chance etc.
The moment you see a lady you like quickly walk over and talk to her. The more you wait and hesitate the more your logic gets in the way.
And as counterproductive as it may seem, Go in with a blank mind. No questions pre-loaded, no topics prepared. Create space for a conversation to grow organically and naturally. Cause guess what? If the vibe is right you and the girl will click. And when you click with a stranger the conversation moves better cause the both of you will put in equal effort cause you both enjoy it.

Just don't go in with the express intention to shoot your shot, or even to build sexual tension. No. Rather go in with the express intention to have a great conversation. But be ready to go anywhere it may lead. Cause sometimes a vibe can be so good that you end up asking the lady to have a drink with you in a nearby shop, and even then the chemistry intensifies until you invite her to come chillax at your place. All in one day.

Now let me go off topic......But this is where a lot of guys mess it up:
If you're out with a girl and the conversation is flowing and the vibe is awesome, plenty of guys will ask for her number and part ways so they can talk to the girl later on. And they're shocked the girl who was vibey earlier is now cold and distant and uninterested on WhatsApp! Here is the deal: WOMEN ARE CREATURES OF EMOTIONS.
If you and a lady are vibing and the atmosphere is lit and she's clearly having a great time with you NO MATTER YOU JUST MET HER, NO MATTER SHE'S A STRANGER, NO MATTER SHE MENTIONED SHE HAS A BF, escalate escalate escalate. Cause right there, at that moment, in that instance, the iron is hot. The emotions favour you. The winds are blowing in your favour. The train is moving your direction. There's absolutely no reason to stop now. No reason to ask for her number. No reason to ask for her WhatsApp. Cause at that moment you're in a position to get something better than her s --her coochie.

A lot of guys don't believe in same-day puccy.
But that shít exists. A girl you just met can fucc you if the vibe is right and you look fuckable (clean, well groomed, fresh breath, neat clothes, nice deodorant). It boils down to the vibe. And how far you're willing to push it. Things can move from a great convo in the park to a shop having a cooling drink to you inviting her to come check out something at your place to you asking to take a shower then coming back with a towel around your waist asking her to put lotion on your back cause you can't reach --- then BOOM! And if you been putting in work in the gym it's DOUBLE BOOM!
You just have to build on the connection and keep the momentum going as soon as you click out in the street. Don't stop, ask for her number and go. No no no. Later on WhatsApp she'll have cooled down and will be uncooperative. This is the biggest mistake guys make. Everyone is so fixated on phone numbers they'll miss golden opportunities.

Ubunja is a bad boy😀.

JESHAL007:
😂😂😂😂😂
You bin dey doubt me before. Personally, I don't intend to marry, and I have nothing against those who want to marry.
Just be prepared and be realistic, as I advised. The same woman you are thinking is a nawalt, that has sense, and you are doing lovey-dovey with for years will show her true colours when she has calculated and is convinced you are useless and can't rise again.

Even worse is when she perceives you as a burden.

From@Martinez39s

And you have plans to be useless and never rise..
..plans to be a burden to someone's daughter?
Those with such plans are the ones that have something to fear from your above summation.

JESHAL007:
Women have transactional sèx mainly because they don't even really like their husbands in the first place.

Women have transactional sex with anyone and everyone depending on situational context. Nobody is exempt, not even illusionary "alfas" you lot keep touting.

JESHAL007:
This is the reason women have a lot of sex with their boyfriends/fiances but once the dotted lines are signed, sex dwindles. It is a known fact that married men have way less sex than they thought they would before getting married.

Another blatant lie. I've been single, now I'm married. Nothing could be farther from the truth. I'm the one trying to keep up with madam contrary to these lies I've heard all my life. Maybe the focus should be on what your priorities were when choosing a spouse. What vetting criteria were employed. As much as you can keep mouthing off on infidelity on the part of women, there are several that do not see this as an option. P0rn addicted folks will have a problem relating with this cos they've been inundated with tons of visual images where sexy females are the aggressors and wild nymphomaniacs are the order of the day in their electronic media fantasies.

JESHAL007:
And we know most women are married because of the financial security their husbands represent. How else do we explain women leaving their broke ass boyfriends of several years only to pop out of nowhere with a willing fool to wife them up?

Skewed misrepresentations. I suppose it's not common for men to leave a lady they've dated for 7 years and above for a younger, prettier, sexier female? I forgot that is more socially acceptable and even encouraged here.

JESHAL007:
One more thing: as a man, don't be in a relationship where your value is weighed through how much material or finance you contribute, it's not worth it. If your woman is materialistic, bin her like rotten meat. Wait until you can find a woman who really, really likes you and your bullshit and you hers. Otherwise, you just end up in a dysfunctional marriage where you hate each other.

I totally agree.

JESHAL007:
One more extra thing: Divorce is always a valid option. A very, very valid option.

Even suicide is an option. Failure is an option.
Purposeful, intentional and driven men do not entertain some "options".

My own personal opinion which might be unpopular among redpill folks here.

A man can use money to attract a girl of his choice, then use rugged skills to retain her.
This applies to men who do not have the physical appeal, swag, game that bad boys use to hold down girls easily....
This is how it goes:
Mr. Bidemi is a rich guy with plenty of money to spend, cars & houses. However, he's short, obese, often poorly dressed & has thick dark lips, brown teeth & with tribal marks on his face. He's also a nerd.
You can observe that all these physical features are generally undesirable by women.
But Mr. Bidemi's only redeeming grace is that he's stupendously rich.
Now, Mr. Bidemi sees a pretty girl Zainab with big ass, boobs & sexy eyes.
Mr. Bidemi likes the girl & he wishes to have sex with her & even date her if possible; so how does he go about that?
As he's ing with his car on the road in front of his house one day, he spots Zainab strolling along the road, engrossed in her phone chatting with her serious boyfriend.
He slows down, wind down his glass & calls her.
When she turns around & sees him, a short obese ugly guy with brown teeth & thick lips, she feels repulsed initially, but Mr. Bidemi still urges her to come that he won't waste her time. Zainab's emotions was to go & insult him.
But as she approaches his car, she noticed wads of dollar bills sticking out of his pocket. Her mood changes & she becomes curious.
Mr. Bidemi, is not a confident guy with pretty women, but he manages to mumble some few words with a shaky voice.
He manages to invite her to keep him company in his house since he's bored. He promised to sort her out when she's leaving.
After observing that Mr. Bidemi is not really her spec physically & he seems nerdy & uninteresting, her initial thought was to warn him & go away, but she re that he has wads of dollars & he's in a posh car & she can benefit from all these.
She decides to give him a try, highest she will follow him to his house watch movies, eat snacks & request money from him to pay her rent & make her hair. She promised herself that she'll never allow such a man to touch her.
She finally enters his car after informing her boyfriend on phone that she's going to see her sick cousin in the hospital.
Upon reaching Mr. Bidemi's house, he served her exotic drinks & snacks, she enjoys his AC & nice scent in his house.


Mr. Bidemi started making his moves & invites her to his bedroom to help him appreciate some new paintings he bought from Italy.
However, his dick was erect but she couldn't notice it, she promised herself that she won't allow him touch her.
She enters & finds him sitting on the bed with a short & iring the paintings.
One thing led to another & Mr. Bidemi started touching her . She tried to put up some resistance but before she could realize what was happening, his short came off & she notices his long hard 9 inches dick.
Finally, he manages to convince her that he'll take care of her needs & her panties came off & he finally had his way. He pounded her so hard & aggressively that she orgasmed twice, something she has never experienced with her past fuckers.
Mr. Bidemi sucked her & pounded her again & again, different styles, his dick massaging all corners of her kpekus & she experienced a pleasure she has never experienced before....
At a point, her serious boyfriend was calling her phone so that he could sympathize with her sick cousin that she said she was visiting in the hospital but she couldn't pick because Mr. Bidemi was deep in her kpekus
4 rounds for about gone & he releases deep inside her all the time....
When all was over, Mr. Bidemi gave her 100k with a promise to also settle her rent when it's due.

Gradually, Zainab became accustomed to Mr. Bidemi's house & she comes even uninvited.
Each time, Mr. Bidemi bleeps her anyhow he likes. She aborted 3 times for him.
Her red pilled serious boyfriend in Abuja was Still always doing video calls with her, not knowing what was going on.
Gradually, other girls in the neighborhood that don't greet Mr. Bidemi before, started greeting him when they noticed the pretty girl he's always banging in his house....
Gradually, they all started to compete for Mr. Bidemi & he started fucking about 4 of them+ Zainab.
Gradually, other girls also started wondering why neighborhood girls are flocking to Mr. Bidemi's house & their curiosity & love for competition led them to Mr. Bidemi & he ended up fucking more than 33 girls within a short time. The rumor about his bed skills was another major stimulating factor.
Each time a girl sees him with other pretty girls, her interest in him increases & she easily submits her kpekus to him.
Positive mechanism.......

By this time he doesn't even have to put in much effort or spend much to get pussy because girls keep on flocking to him, trying to outdo each other for his dick & attention.
He could easily yell & insult any girl that asks him for money & they don't leave because they know he has so many options......
Married women also picked interest in him & even found it a thing of pride to be bleeped by Mr. Bidemi that so many women are craving for.
He ended up fucking more than 75 women before he relocated to the UK

In all of these, the initial stimulus was his money. He used it to attract pretty Zainab first, then when other women noticed a pretty girl around him, they also got interested & submitted their kpekus.
Other women also saw his success in banging women & also submitted out of curiosity & love for competition with each other.

My message to niggas who do not have the looks or bad boy skills to attract women, but they have money to entice them is simple.
Use that money, attract a pretty girl (they all like money), then when you have drilled her, make sure other girls see you with her.
They will most likely be attracted to you also & will fall easily. Make sure you also Bleep them well without catching any feeling for any of them.
Each of them will know that you have options & will love to easily submit pussy to you to keep your attention. Their shakara will drop & you may no longer be using money to get kpekus again.
Women like men that other women like & will always compete for such man in a bid to outdo each other

Gracias!

JESHAL007:
😂😂😂😂😂

You bin dey doubt me before. Personally, I don't intend to marry, and I have nothing against those who want to marry.

Just be prepared and be realistic, as I advised. The same woman you are thinking is a nawalt, that has sense, and you are doing lovey-dovey with for years will show her true colours when she has calculated and is convinced you are useless and can't rise again.

Even worse is when she perceives you as a burden.

From@Martinèz39s

Immediately you posted this, I knew very soon that at least one clown will misconstrue or twist this to say whatever he/she wants, even if it is a point that isn't contested or proposed. It came much sooner than I had expected.

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Where in this post does it say you should never have a plan (to avoid being useless) or fear marriage because of female nature? Did anyone bother to know the origin of that post as one with good critical thinking skills does? Did anyone not see "just be prepared and be realistic"? What about "... as I adviced"? What’s that particular advice I gave? Besides, who is fearing what? SMH.

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Anyway @JESHAL, I think it best not post excerpts of my discussion from the WhatsApp group. Seems for many who jump into conclusions, you will have to post the preceding posts and subsequent posts (all of which are responses to different people as they are part of a group discussion), and I don't want that. Other posts are okay.

N.B: For those who've read this post so far and are curious as to what was being discussed in the WhatsApp group, here it is:

(1) we were discussing about men being financially stable before going into marriage; understanding the need to set up yourself very well before going into marriage; and looking at economic realities.

(2) Pragmatic procreation. (Any redpiller interested can ask what this is all about, and I will discuss).

(3) being realistic with female nature and having realistic expectations. Knowing what to expect, and discussing different possible marital scenarios. One of the many scenarios happened to be a case of when men lose their income, can't meet up, or fall from great heights...

Of course, all these are done through the red pill lens. I hope one day the group comes alive as it was during it peak and redpillers can ponder on these things.

ElasmoBranchii:


Of course. I look forward to that.

I still have this in mind. I wanted to ask questions concerning your interesting understanding of hypergamy. Unfailingly, I will ask by weekend since that's the time I am free to follow up. I just want to clarify some things.

Wonderful New Year. Cheers.

Martinez39s:
Immediately you posted this, I knew very soon that at least one clown will misconstrue or twist this to say whatever he/she wants, even if it is a point that isn't contested or proposed. It came much sooner than I had expected.

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Where in this post does it say you should never have a plan (to avoid being useless) or fear marriage because of female nature? Did anyone bother to know the origin of that post as one with good critical thinking skills does? Did anyone not see "just be prepared and be realistic"? What about "... as I adviced"? What’s that particular advice I gave? Besides, who is fearing what? SMH.

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Anyway @JESHAL, I think it best not post excerpts of my discussion from the WhatsApp group. Seems for many who jump into conclusions, you will have to post the preceding posts and subsequent posts (all of which are responses to different people as they are part of a group discussion), and I don't want that. Other posts are okay.

N.B: For those who've read this post so far and are curious as to what was being discussed in the WhatsApp group, here it is:

(1) we were discussing about men being financially stable before going into marriage; understanding the need to set up yourself very well before going into marriage; and looking at economic realities.

(2) Pragmatic procreation. (Any redpiller interested can ask what this is all about, and I will discuss).

(3) being realistic with female nature and having realistic expectations. Knowing what to expect, and discussing different possible marital scenarios. One of the many scenarios happened to be a case of when men lose their income, can't meet up, or fall from great heights...

Of course, all these are done through the red pill lens. I hope one day the group comes alive as it was during it peak and redpillers can ponder on these things.

I was always suspecting that guy to be bluepilled to a degree but now I'm confirming it, it's as if he was triggered, he seems to come from religious belief systems that is difficult to reconcile with raw empirical amoral data of redpill, he's hurt and pained because of uncomfortable truths hence the outburst

I love your assessments what if you fall from grace due to unforseen factors outside your control or your own mistakes, how would you adapt to such scenario with your family, do you have emergency options like stored up backup wealth or people you can rely on during this trying time, redpill is preparing you for life not just getting sex but maintaining a relationship and having family if you choose to, you are wiser than an average ignorant bluepilled individual following society script

@Martinez39s please explain pragmatic procreation, I just love your assessments on issues because you are not emotionally attached to it, you see clearer, that tony guy has never posted core redpill messages just motivation and traditional conservative talking points, beta buccs component

Redpill is truth, no matter how amoral, cynical, nihilistic, immoral, hopeless, painful it is, it doesn't change it, that's how life works, that's how relationships function, it's bitter yes because it's unflattering, your cherished idealistic notions of love, romance are dashed

JESHAL007:
I was always suspecting that guy to be bluepilled to a degree but now I'm confirming it, it's as if he was triggered, he seems to come from religious belief systems that is difficult to reconcile with raw empirical amoral data of redpill, he's hurt and pained because of uncomfortable truths hence the outburst

I love your assessments what if you fall from grace due to unforseen factors outside your control or your own mistakes, how would you adapt to such scenario with your family, do you have emergency options like stored up backup wealth or people you can rely on during this trying time, redpill is preparing you for life not just getting sex but maintaining a relationship and having family if you choose to, you are wiser than an average ignorant bluepilled individual following society script

Bluepilled, ivorypilled, indigopilled, rainbowpilled.. that's the headache of you lots. Some of us choose to be truthpilled. Dissect each argument one by one instead of making mundane, generic sweeping statements like "..he's blue, velvet or greenpilled".
Where are the raw empirical facts backing your claims by the way?
Same way some clowns here emphatically stated that single guys are happier, more fulfilled, healthier and live longer than married folks and when asked to provide evidence to this they claimed the internet only has data from the matrix.
Irredeemable clowns.

Uptheante:
My own personal opinion which might be unpopular among redpill folks here.

By this time he doesn't even have to put in much effort or spend much to get pussy because girls keep on flocking to him, trying to outdo each other for his dick & attention.
He could easily yell & insult any girl that asks him for money & they don't leave because they know he has so many options......
Married women also picked interest in him & even found it a thing of pride to be bleeped by Mr. Bidemi that so many women are craving for.
He ended up fucking more than 75 women before he relocated to the UK

In all of these, the initial stimulus was his money. He used it to attract pretty Zainab first, then when other women noticed a pretty girl around him, they also got interested & submitted their kpekus.
Other women also saw his success in banging women & also submitted out of curiosity & love for competition with each other.

My message to niggas who do not have the looks or bad boy skills to attract women, but they have money to entice them is simple.
Use that money, attract a pretty girl (they all like money), then when you have drilled her, make sure other girls see you with her.
They will most likely be attracted to you also & will fall easily. Make sure you also Bleep them well without catching any feeling for any of them.
Each of them will know that you have options & will love to easily submit pussy to you to keep your attention. Their shakara will drop & you may no longer be using money to get kpekus again.
Women like men that other women like & will always compete for such man in a bid to outdo each other

Gracias!

Lol all this is easier said than done. Come back to reality bro.

Martinez39s:
I still have this in mind. I wanted to ask questions concerning your interesting understanding of hypergamy. Unfailingly, I will ask by weekend since that's the time I am free to follow up. I just want to clarify some things.

Wonderful New Year. Cheers.

Alright my G. I'm open to any discussion as far as it will further extend my understanding of the topic.

Happy New Year to you too bro and
Happy Red New Year to all the Redpillers in the house.

Tonnyray:
Life is actually balanced in my opinion though and if we were to actually delve inwards to discover and unearth the qualities that are gifted to us as men: the powers of creativity, aggression, courage, strength, competitiveness, resilience, mental and physical energy, capacity for critical thinking and logical thought to mention a few. These are qualities that last 50 years and more. Physical beauty that lasts for just 10 years (maybe 15 years max for the extremely genetically lucky ones) pales into insignificance in comparison. If we are objective enough, nature has ensured we MEN actually have the "unfair" advantage.

We can do nothing against the truth.

Tonnyray:
Some learn the nature of women and run.
Some learn the nature of women, marry and get burnt.
Some learn the nature of women, marry and conquer.
I am confident what path is mine.
Choose your path.

Choose your path.

CaveAdullam:
Women can't "feel far more sexual pleasure" and at the same time have a lower sex drive.

Men feel far more sexual pleasures which include:

Higher sexual fantasy.
Higher sexual imagination.
Higher sex dream.
Highest viewers of pornography.
Highest masturbators.
Feels more disappointed when sexual need is declined.

The differences are not "too far". But overall, men have higher sexual needs than women as a result of testosterone.

2. Many people think women are of higher sex drive because of their sexual display on social media. If you should look at it and trace it to the bottom, you'll see that they are on social media for the money. And not for the fun of sex.

3. Women don't give sex freely without an exchange. Merge this with their (lower) sex drive, you'll come to understand why men hustle and pay for sex and women don't.

4. It is easier for women to get sex because they don't want it. And 99.9% of men are ready to fvck them.
It is difficult for men to have sex because they want it. And 99% of women are not ready to fvck them.

5. It is easier to say "abundance mentality...why chase one woman when there are more than 3 billion women in the world?"

The thing here is that those other 3 billion women aren't gonna fvck you just like the one that rejected you if are not ready for exchange. And this exchange bothers on hypergamy: her alpha and or beta needs.

6. Women and sex are not free. There is always an exchange to get both. You just need to be wise with your exchange though, and the reason why it is expedient that a man must learn GAME.

7. Forget what women do on social media. Women are not careless with sex. Their sexual pursuit bothers on a subconscious evolutionary demand or conscious act or both. [/b]

Sensible one.

JESHAL007:

I was always suspecting that guy to be bluepilled to a degree but now I'm confirming it, it's as if he was triggered, he seems to come from religious belief systems that is difficult to reconcile with raw empirical amoral data of redpill, he's hurt and pained because of uncomfortable truths hence the outburst

To be honest, I don't care what he thinks about the red pill and redpillers, or whatever. I really wouldn't be bothered about him. Just allow him and his kind to do as they please.

Anyway, that post you brought here is okay on its own, but since most people don't critically think well enough to trace posts to their discussion root before opening their mouths or typing to input a conclusion, it is best to only bring posts that stand alone. It is better to minimise nonsense.

I love your assessments what if you fall from grace due to unforseen factors outside your control or your own mistakes, how would you adapt to such scenario with your family, do you have emergency options like stored up backup wealth or people you can rely on during this trying time, redpill is preparing you for life not just getting sex but maintaining a relationship and having family if you choose to, you are wiser than an average ignorant bluepilled individual following society script

Nothing is amiss here. Ride on.

ElasmoBranchii:


Alright my G. I'm open to any discussion as far as it will further extend my understanding of the topic.

Happy New Year to you too bro and
Happy Red New Year to all the Redpillers in the house.

No problem.

ubunja:
the only problem is that you want to go from zero to smooth conversations with pretty girls. Doesn't work like that. You've to start at the bottom bro. You can't run before you can walk. You can't walk before you can crawl. You can't crawl before you can sit.

How do you begin at the bottom?

If you're like any typical gent you're aiming for the top pretty girls that catch your eye. Which is actually where you're getting it wrong. The secret to smooth conversations with the ladies is how RELAXED you yourself are. The more relaxed you are the more fire will be your conversation. Now ,the pretty girls intimate you. Which makes you anxious. Which kills your conversation.

I propose that you forget about these very cute girls for a moment.

Aim a little lower.

You know those girls that you hardly look at twice.cause they're not your type and class? Who you don't have any approach anxiety with. Who you can be free around and you can say anything to without any fear? Those are the girls you need to practice on. Hang out with them and use them to sharpen your skills. (Mind you, these are the same type/class of women you must be [secretly] screwing as target practice- but that's a story for another time)

You can't go from being terrible at talking to girls to having a flawless mouthpiece all in one go. Conversation skills, like all skills, must be cultivated through patient practice. And you don't practice on the very girls you want cause failure here will deal a blow to your confidence and self-esteem. Begin way down the ladder with girls you have nothing to lose with. Then as you become good at it start ri the ladder engaging with better and better girls.

We live in a fast world and people want quick fixes and shortcuts. But given that a smooth mouthpiece is something you'll benefit from your whole life, it's worth it to invest your time and energy in perfecting it the right way.

BUTTTTTT.......
If my advice is too much and you're more after quick solutions, then your best bet is in fact to move FASTER. Approach anxiety is down to OVERTHINKING. The antidote is SPEED. the moment you spot your target you move in swiftly before your brain catches up and starts throwing up rationalizations: she's too pretty, you don't stand a chance etc.
The moment you see a lady you like quickly walk over and talk to her. The more you wait and hesitate the more your logic gets in the way.
And as counterproductive as it may seem, Go in with a blank mind. No questions pre-loaded, no topics prepared. Create space for a conversation to grow organically and naturally. Cause guess what? If the vibe is right you and the girl will click. And when you click with a stranger the conversation moves better cause the both of you will put in equal effort cause you both enjoy it.

Just don't go in with the express intention to shoot your shot, or even to build sexual tension. No. Rather go in with the express intention to have a great conversation. But be ready to go anywhere it may lead. Cause sometimes a vibe can be so good that you end up asking the lady to have a drink with you in a nearby shop, and even then the chemistry intensifies until you invite her to come chillax at your place. All in one day.

Now let me go off topic......But this is where a lot of guys mess it up:
If you're out with a girl and the conversation is flowing and the vibe is awesome, plenty of guys will ask for her number and part ways so they can talk to the girl later on. And they're shocked the girl who was vibey earlier is now cold and distant and uninterested on WhatsApp! Here is the deal: WOMEN ARE CREATURES OF EMOTIONS.
If you and a lady are vibing and the atmosphere is lit and she's clearly having a great time with you NO MATTER YOU JUST MET HER, NO MATTER SHE'S A STRANGER, NO MATTER SHE MENTIONED SHE HAS A BF, escalate escalate escalate. Cause right there, at that moment, in that instance, the iron is hot. The emotions favour you. The winds are blowing in your favour. The train is moving your direction. There's absolutely no reason to stop now. No reason to ask for her number. No reason to ask for her WhatsApp. Cause at that moment you're in a position to get something better than her s --her coochie.

A lot of guys don't believe in same-day puccy.
But that shít exists. A girl you just met can fucc you if the vibe is right and you look fuckable (clean, well groomed, fresh breath, neat clothes, nice deodorant). It boils down to the vibe. And how far you're willing to push it. Things can move from a great convo in the park to a shop having a cooling drink to you inviting her to come check out something at your place to you asking to take a shower then coming back with a towel around your waist asking her to put lotion on your back cause you can't reach --- then BOOM! And if you been putting in work in the gym it's DOUBLE BOOM!
You just have to build on the connection and keep the momentum going as soon as you click out in the street. Don't stop, ask for her number and go. No no no. Later on WhatsApp she'll have cooled down and will be uncooperative. This is the biggest mistake guys make. Everyone is so fixated on phone numbers they'll miss golden opportunities.

Great Post. Well put. These are the kind of practical stuff I love seeing NOT red pill theory bs.

Like you mentioned, It's WAY easier fùcking a girl you just met that same day when she's feeling your touch, aroused, turned on. Just walk with her or take her on a date then invite her home.

Much easier to do that than taking her number and scheduling for another day. Because like you said, emotions cool off.


However, there are ways to fix this. The biggest issue is that most naija guys run arousal game. And arousal game is the quickest way for a girl to cool off later and flake on you.

If you don't plan on fùcking a girl that Same day, limit your arousal and build other aspects of your game

CaveAdullam:


1. I disagree.

Women can't "feel far more sexual pleasure" and at the same time have a lower sex drive.

Men feel far more sexual pleasures which include:

Higher sexual fantasy.
Higher sexual imagination.
Higher sex dream.
Highest viewers of pornography.
Highest masturbators.
Feels more disappointed when sexual need is declined.

The differences are not "too far". But overall, men have higher sexual needs than women as a result of testosterone.

2. Many people think women are of higher sex drive because of their sexual display on social media. If you should look at it and trace it to the bottom, you'll see that they are on social media for the money. And not for the fun of sex.

3. Women don't give sex freely without an exchange. Merge this with their (lower) sex drive, you'll come to understand why men hustle and pay for sex and women don't.

4. It is easier for women to get sex because they don't want it. And 99.9% of men are ready to fvck them.
It is difficult for men to have sex because they want it. And 99% of women are not ready to fvck them.

5. It is easier to say "abundance mentality...why chase one woman when there are more than 3 billion women in the world?"

The thing here is that those other 3 billion women aren't gonna fvck you just like the one that rejected you if are not ready for exchange. And this exchange bothers on hypergamy: her alpha and or beta needs.

6. Women and sex are not free. There is always an exchange to get both. You just need to be wise with your exchange though, and the reason why it is expedient that a man must learn GAME.

7. Forget what women do on social media. Women are not careless with sex. Their sexual pursuit bothers on a subconscious evolutionary demand or conscious act or both.

DAY 351, REDPILL 2022

Authority: Learn Game.

Nah this totally wrong. This is what someone who hasn't seen the dark sexual nature of women in real life would say.

Women are WAY MORE Sexual than men. They derive more sexual pleasure than men

A woman can Bleep 7 guys in one day am will still want more. She can have multiple orgasms back to back In a row

Women also have dirtier and more perverted fantasies than men. If a woman has strong sexual desire for you, she's willing to the most depraved things you can think of.

Their sexual fantasy and sexual imagination are way higher. That's why they love reading novels. So their minds can go as wild as possible.

With the right guy, they unleash themselves and get wild.

They don't want pornography as much as men because men are more visual.

But go look at what they read, fantasize and day dream about lol. Go look at how many sizes and variations of intimacy gadgets they have. Their fantasies are WAY perverted than ours. And women always want more and more when it comes to exploring

The sexual awakening affects them more.


We, men just have higher sex drives. But they experience way more pleasure

PinkNature:
@pukkalolo, rizzputin

Could you please put out a piece advising the younger audience here (25yrs and younger) that will help us navigate 2025 and make good use of this new year and also how to become a better version of ourselves.

Thank you.

Tonight

Rizzputin:


Nah this totally wrong. This is what someone who hasn't seen the dark sexual nature of women in real life would say.

Women are WAY MORE Sexual than men. They derive more sexual pleasure than men

A woman can Bleep 7 guys in one day am will still want more. She can have multiple orgasms back to back In a row

Women also have dirtier and more perverted fantasies than men. If a woman has strong sexual desire for you, she's willing to the most depraved things you can think of.

Their sexual fantasy and sexual imagination are way higher. That's why they love reading novels. So their minds can go as wild as possible.

With the right guy, they unleash themselves and get wild.

They don't want pornography as much as men because men are more visual.

But go look at what they read, fantasize and day dream about lol. Go look at how many sizes and variations of intimacy gadgets they have. Their fantasies are WAY perverted than ours. And women always want more and more when it comes to exploring

The sexual awakening affects them more.


We, men just have higher sex drives. But they experience way more pleasure

I like how you feel that you have been able to rebut the post and yet contradicted yourself again with your last paragraph @bolded.

Bro...

The quoted post stems from a biological and evolutionary point of view.

You want to be using prostitutes to make a point when they are less than 8% of the total female demography in each continent.

Go research about testosterone hormone.

If you read about 2 - 3 books about testosterone and find out that "women experience more sexual pleasure than men or (have a higher sexual drive than men), then, we can have a discussion.

I don't even know how a specie "can have lower sex drive and still experience higher sexual pleasure".

That contradiction is giving me headache. I swear.

Happy New Year.

She risked her 10 year old marriage for a celebrity kiss


LMAO! 🤣



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CaveAdullam:


I like how you feel that you have been able to rebut the post and yet contradicted yourself again with your last paragraph @bolded.

Bro...

The quoted post stems from a biological and evolutionary point of view.

You want to be using prostitutes to make a point when they are less than 8% of the total female demography in each continent.

Go research about testosterone hormone.

If you read about 2 - 3 books about testosterone and find out that "women experience more sexual pleasure than men or (have a higher sexual drive than men), then, we can have a discussion.

I don't even know how a specie "can have lower sex drive and still experience higher sexual pleasure".

That contradiction is giving me headache. I swear.

Happy New Year.

You're confused if you think anything there is contradictory.

High sex drive and sexual pleasure while related are NOT the same thing.

Sex drive refers to that urge and eagerness to have sex. That initial sex. Men can look and are ready to go. No long talk involved. Women on the other hand, are slower to get to that sex point in general.

Sexual pleasure is the enjoyment, satisfaction and depth that comes with sex. Women by FAR derive more pleasure and enjoyment in sex. It's NOT something to debate or use book knowledge to argue. Go out and actually experience it.

The fact that you called the Women I described "prostitutes" is laughable. Because you're suffering from good/bad girl syndrome

Women if aroused enough and with the right man will do perverted things that will make you cry. This FALSE belief that Women who have naughty fantasies are prostitutes is just naive.

Find any girl you feel doesn't match the criteria. Tell her to show you the novels she reads and her fantasies. Lol

I mostly debate experience not books. Your flawed theory already goes against reality. Drop the books and actually meet women

Happy New year to you too

Rizzputin:
Nah this totally wrong. This is what someone who hasn't seen the dark sexual nature of women in real life would say.

Women are WAY MORE Sexual than men. They derive more sexual pleasure than men

A woman can Bleep 7 guys in one day am will still want more. She can have multiple orgasms back to back In a row

Women also have dirtier and more perverted fantasies than men. If a woman has strong sexual desire for you, she's willing to the most depraved things you can think of.

Their sexual fantasy and sexual imagination are way higher. That's why they love reading novels. So their minds can go as wild as possible.

With the right guy, they unleash themselves and get wild.

They don't want pornography as much as men because men are more visual.

But go look at what they read, fantasize and day dream about lol. Go look at how many sizes and variations of intimacy gadgets they have. Their fantasies are WAY perverted than ours. And women always want more and more when it comes to exploring

The sexual awakening affects them more.

We, men just have higher sex drives. But they experience way more pleasure

I disagree.
You keep saying "can" and "if" and using the same to establish something as factual.
I can fvck Beyonce doesn't mean I ever will in 7 lifetimes.
Using probability clauses of "if with the right guy" already puts them on a lower pedestal than men sexdrive-wise as most men oftentimes don't even have a right woman but fvck just about any willing p00$$y.
If women had these crazy sex drives as you claim it won't be men being hauled in jail for sex crimes over 95% of the time.
Observing the spectrum of animal species alone does justice to this flawed argument.

Rizzputin:


You're confused if you think anything there is contradictory.

High sex drive and sexual pleasure while related are NOT the same thing.

Sex drive refers to that urge and eagerness to have sex. That initial sex. Men can look and are ready to go. No long talk involved. Women on the other hand, are slower to get to that sex point in general.

Sexual pleasure is the enjoyment, satisfaction and depth that comes with sex. Women by FAR derive more pleasure and enjoyment in sex. It's NOT something to debate or use book knowledge to argue. Go out and actually experience it.

The fact that you called the Women I described "prostitutes" is laughable. Because you're suffering from good/bad girl syndrome

Women if aroused enough and with the right man will do perverted things that will make you cry. This FALSE belief that Women who have naughty fantasies are prostitutes is just naive.

Find any girl you feel doesn't match the criteria. Tell her to show you the novels she reads and her fantasies. Lol

I mostly debate experience not books. Your flawed theory already goes against reality. Drop the books and actually meet women

Happy New year to you too

Ok.

Tonnyray:
I disagree.
You keep saying "can" and "if" and using the same to establish something as factual.
I can fvck Beyonce doesn't mean I ever will in 7 lifetimes.
Using probability clauses of "if with the right guy" already puts them on a lower pedestal than men sexdrive-wise as most men oftentimes don't even have a right woman but fvck just about any willing p00$$y.
If women had these crazy sex drives as you claim it won't be men being hauled in jail for sex crimes over 95% of the time.
Observing the spectrum of animal species alone does justice to this flawed argument.

Men have higher sex drives. Women have higher sexual pleasure. Sex drive and Sexual pleasure ARE NOT the same thing

Women have more perverted thoughts and feelings than men.

Women experience more pleasure and enjoyment in sex than men.

Women fantasize more than men.

Women are willing and do more sexually wild things than men.

Again, are you actually having sex with women or talking from an evolutionary book?

Rizzputin:


Men have higher sex drives. Women have higher sexual pleasure. Sex drive and Sexual pleasure ARE NOT the same thing

Women have more perverted thoughts and feelings than men.

Women experience more pleasure and enjoyment in sex than men.

Women fantasize more than men.

Women are willing and do more sexually wild things than men.

Again, are you actually having sex with women or talking from an evolutionary book?

I agree with caveadullam's take but you might be right about some of the things you said.

For example you said Sex drive and Sexual pleasure are not the same which is true but in both case, it's still men that top.

In order for you to realize that, ask yourself what is the ratio of men to women that reach orgasm during sex and that will reveal the answer on who experiences more sexual pleasure.

Now, I don't know if women have the potential to experience more sexual pleasure than men because the way they get turned on is a little different than men and most men don't know how to turn women on, so that might be the reason.

So, all in all, your hypothesis is just based off your own experience which is limiting.

Rizzputin:
Men have higher sex drives. Women have higher sexual pleasure. Sex drive and Sexual pleasure ARE NOT the same thing

Women have more perverted thoughts and feelings than men.

Women experience more pleasure and enjoyment in sex than men.

Women fantasize more than men.

Women are willing and do more sexually wild things than men.

Again, are you actually having sex with women or talking from an evolutionary book?

LOL
You speak like you used to be a woman
How exactly does menstruation feel?
If you never were a woman then all you penned up there is hypothetical hocus-pocus.
And as it pertains to having sex with women, maybe we could meet up and compare irrefutable phone evidence of our body counts.

ElasmoBranchii:


I agree with caveadullam's take but you might be right about some of the things you said.

For example you said Sex drive and Sexual pleasure are not the same which is true but in both case, it's still men that top.

In order for you to realize that, ask yourself what is the ratio of men to women that reach orgasm during sex and that will reveal the answer on who experiences more sexual pleasure.

Now, I don't know if women have the potential to experience more sexual pleasure than men because the way they get turned on is a little different than men and most men don't know how to turn women on, so that might be the reason.

So, all in all, your hypothesis is just based off your own experience which is limiting.

Dear lord. Are you guys actually having sex with women?
Sexual pleasure is about enjoyment, depth and satisfaction

It takes women longer to get satisfied. Meaning they require more pleasure to get satisfied. Meaning they require more stimulation experience that satisfaction. Their orgasms are also stronger and more than men

How don't you guys get this?

And it's Not just my hypothesis. Go and ask any real playa getting laid. They'll tell you the same thing

Don't ask red pillers like yourself. Majority of you have limited experience to speak on this. Go ask guys with real experience (NOT books) and they'll you how much more women love sex.

This is real life. Not books

Tonnyray:
LOL
You speak like you used to be a woman
How exactly does menstruation feel?
If you never were a woman then all you penned up there is hypothetical hocus-pocus.
And as it pertains to having sex with women, maybe we could meet up and compare irrefutable phone evidence of our body counts.

Lol. Nobody is debating body count with you. You will NEVER reach mine. So no need.

However, go have sexual experiences with 50 women then everything will make sense to you. Until then, all you're saying Is some nonsense you read in a book

For those reading, quote me with real life experiences YOU have.

Not some nonsense your biology or evolution teacher taught you. Seduction is about what happens in the field. Not some theories you cook in your mind or read somewhere.

I will ignore ALL mentions that talk about "books" or theory or how baboon, dog and chimpanzee are different.

Speak from experience. Too much logic is why a lot of you do badly with women. Don't sit in your bedroom and cook up theories.

Have sexual experiences with women for yourself. If you're too stoic or Mr Monk (LOL) Then resist the urge to speak on it. Because you don't have the required experience for it.

Rizzputin:
Lol. Nobody is debating body count with you. You will NEVER reach mine. So no need.
However, go have sexual experiences with 50 women then everything will make sense to you. Until then, all you're saying Is some nonsense you read in a book

50 women!!!
Wow! This must be a joke. I'd crossed 50 before I left Ibadan 9 years ago (October 2015 to be precise).
This is a waste of time really since neither of us can substantiate these here... but to even start at 50 already gives me an idea what you feel is a considerable count.
I had the best O&G result in my set and conducted more than 65 deliveries in my career while in clinical practice but I'd never argue with a mother of even a single child about how exactly a woman feels during childbirth- why? because a person with an experience is equal to 1,000 with mere opinions no matter how academically sound.
You've never been a woman, stop menstruating on their behalf. The only pleasure you can relate to is yours.
The minute you convince serious minded people here you've had clitoral and vaginal orgasms before, the earlier anyone will take your claims seriously.