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ogaontop:
Obodo is Anambra oil at Ogbaru LGA, it's successful exploration is part of why Anambra is now classified as Oil Producing State.

Obodo is in Delta. An Itsekiri enclave. Connecting towns are Ughotton - Omadino.

Obodo is the last town in that axis. After there you are crossing over to Ondo.

Eastlink:
Interesting. A typical Urhobo man and butt licking the Ijaws. But when you are asked to share a country with the Ijaws after all these great commentary, you'll begin to blabber giving reasons why it's not attainable. Can't the Urhobo muster the strength as the bigger group to coordinate all Edoid groups from Akoko-Ondo to Degema in Rivers into one big ethnic group?

Mind you the fake Ijaw fight for Niger-Delta is a scam. Why is it that no other ethnic group benefits from this so-called Ijaw fight for minorities in the Niger-Delta except them. From the ministry of Niger-Delta, Amnesty, to the NDDC, the Ijaws cornered all to themselves. The used the fight for minorities to push Ijaw agenda to the extent of luring Obasanjo to pick GEJ as Vice to Yardua and luckily to the Presidential seat after Yardua 's death. They used the money gotten from the Ministry of Niger-Delta to promote their IYC agenda in a bid to coveat and landgrab other non-Ijaw seafaring tribe as part of them. We see this happen in Ndoki, Obolo, and even now to Oron. Please spare us this fake Ijaw whitewashing.

The task of unifying all related groups under a single umbrella is no small feat. You can agree with me that even the two major ethnic groups in the Southern religion have failed to unify some of their related groups scattered across various regions. If theso called majority with their large numbers are struggling to, why do you think it will be easy for the Urhobos to unify all related groups? Or do you want me to dwell on the disunity of these majority groups?

In the Niger Delta, the largest groups are the Urhobo-Esan-edoid bloc, the Efik-Ibibio-Akwa-cross bloc. The ijaw numbers are highly disputed but these groups I earlier highlighted have failed to come under a single umbrella and push for something, so the Ijaws with their unified strength have automatically assumed the largest in the region.

In the case of split up, lots of these groups will be vulnerable. In life, there is never a vacuum. Either you come together or you will be chopped separately and consumed. In the civil war, we all saw how the Midwest was easily overran and a leader imposed on them.

Same with the Efik-Ibibio bloc. Theirs is even more saddening because they are the largest and could easily become a voice of the region, but they have failed to unify. In all of these vacuum, the Ijaw quickly emerged and despite their disputed numbers, they became a voice the region where we have other majorities.

If Nigeria eventually split without these groups putting their house in order, they can easily be overran. This is a sad reality of life and reason no reasonable person will want a fragmented region. These groups need each other to survive a hostile territory where weakness is not needed. With the minorities all in one basket, it will be hard for any external force to overrun and dominate.

Odingo1:

We keep telling them that Niger delta republic is dead on arrival, reality is hitting them on the face. Ijaw no send them and they now want create a mini empire for their Oba.

Ijaws are still the best bet for minorities. Anyone ditching any alliance with the Ijaws are setting themselves for subjugation. The Ijaws are the only group that has unified their house and exerting unified power outside their traditional domains.

The issues with the minorities is the lack of unity and without unity you can't survive. Believe me, life is never for the weak and when the time comes, weaker nations will be subdued.

I can give a case for each bloc in the Delta as to why they can have their independent country but when you fragment these people, they become weak and vulnerable. Also, these individual bloc are yet to put their house in order, this lack of unity is why the Efik/Ibibio bloc can't command dominance in a region they have the sheer numbers, far exceeding that of the Ijoid and the Edoid. The Edoid bloc are also struggling to come under a single umbrella. The sole largest group there-the Urhobo haven't done anything in the last decades to bring every related group under a single umbrella.

Thankfully, the Ijaws have, and now have a united front. It's this united front that has enabled them fought fircely for the interest of the Niger Deltan people. It's also this united front enabled them wrestled the central government until they conceded to the demand of the people whose land they have exploited over the last five decades. Whilst they achieved very little success with their fight, you can agree with me that their voice is very important for other minorities and hence everyone must rally behind them if they want to survive a hostile country like Nigeria.

Also, the Ijaws seems to share ancestry and link with just every groups present in the Delta, giving them more link to bound and form and unbroken bond.

Ojiofor:


Ijaw is still evolving into a tribe they are not even there yet.They are still trying to formulate a language of communication amongst themselves.People that sneak in through the sea can't claim to be the older than people who lives upland.

The OP is just click baiting but the Ijaws are some of the oldest group in the Delta. There is no single group today who didn't have with them and these stories have been consistent.

From the several Delta aboriginals to other Edoid groups that moved eastwards. They one way or the other had s with the Ijaws.

Their incorporation of other willing groups in recent time is pure power play and any one with power and financial muscles will always want to dominate. If the Ijaws aren't uniting these related smaller groups, others will. It's the brutal fact about human nature. Also their survival depends on how they strengthen their hold and unify their front now that they have an edge due to the rough oil politics being played in Nigeria.

Are they the oldest group in Nigeria? probably not. Are they one of the oldest groups in the Niger Delta? maybe yes. But they are sure no new commers.

Kingadex60:
. No coconut attached right, like how much date and tiger nut will do to blend and drink like thrice... So one can referigate d rest

Bought half basket/modul of the tiger nut and measured dates. We bought them from northern market in our town. It was cheaper.

I think the Tiger nuts was #3500 and the dates we bought around #2500. We kept the Tiger nuts and Dates in a dry place and blend some measured cups every morning. My rough estimate will be around 1½ - 2 peak milk tin cup of Tiger nuts and 10-20 dates for each blend (Add water when blending some you get the best of the juice). You can use a blender. After blending, gently squeeze the juice inside a cup.

The juice can get bad if not well preserved, that's why I take mine that same day I prepare them. Morning and night. Some people refrigerate theirs.

As for the coconut, I only used it once or twice, but date was what was added regularly. It gives the tiger nut juice some extra flavour and adds the right nutrients your body needs.

Kingadex60:
is it only the tigernut one should blend or did u still add coconut and date to it before u get result

I included date in the mixture. Sorry I omitted that. I removed the seed from the date before blending together with the Tiger nut.

temi4fash:


Please what is Hausa Grandnut?

Tiger nut. It's a very common nuts being sold by Northerners. I've attached a sample of it below.

Shadow0147:
Good afternoon everybody.

I have been taking addyzoa, Vit E, Vit C and zinc supplement to treat low sperm count, low motility and bad morphology. When I started addyzoa a month ago, sperm count was 16.6 million,progressive motility was 35%,non motile was 42%, normal morphology was 23%, abnormal was 72%.

Now after 1 month of taking addyzoa,Vit E, Vit C and zinc supplement, sperm count is 30 million, progressive motility is 15%, non motile is 60%, normal morphology is 4% while abnormal is 96%.

I am still taking addyzoa, vit E, vit C and zinc supplement to continue to improve sperm count but I need suggestions on how to rapidly boost the motility and morphology.

I will really appreciate any advice given.

Thanks a lot

I would like to share what really improved mine.

I did a combo of regular Exercise (30 minutes run daily) and made juice out of Tiger nut ('Hausa Grandnut.') I also started eating at least one boiled egg per day. I did this for one month and the result was astonishing. Morphology, motility increased.

Count had a slight increase but from your submission, your recent count has improved a lot. You just need to make your players run well and faster.

I did Zinc too but parameters were the same. Changing diets and daily routine really did it for me.

Baby dust to you and your wife.

Modified: I included date in the Tiger Nut blend.

Ofodirinwa:


because ndi oil revenue have low brain processing capacity. Who will make the oil a priority?
Is it Amaechi that gave his entire looted fortune to APC for cabinet position? Wike?
Asari Dokubo?
Akpabio who dashed his destiny long ago?
All of the mumu Bayelsa and Delta governors?

I commend Tinubu for at least being intelligent and tactful. Evil, but tactful. Someone like that can make an agenda happen. More Tompolo who sold his entire movement for a loaf of bread

The Niger Delta aren't the only oil producing communities in Nigeria. There are other states that pumps out thousands of barrels too.

If the Niger Deltans have low capacity brains, the people from these states should be at the forefront of the struggle since they are superior. Or do you think the 13% derivatives is only affecting Delta or Bayelsa?

The oil producing communities in Imo are still facing similar challenges as their counterparts in the Delta. The Ilajes could barely fish again because their waters have been so damaged by the consistent oil exploration.

Let Ondo, Imo etc fight since they have superior brains. After all, they aren't minorities.

ariesbull:
I don't know who this guy is but he seems to be the only honest Benin man. As an Ikwerre man, I want my people from Ogba, Ekpeye and Ikwerre to read this with an open mind.

𝑴𝑰𝑮𝑹𝑨𝑻𝑰𝑵𝑮 𝑭𝑹𝑶𝑴 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑫𝑶𝑬𝑺 𝑵𝑶𝑻 𝑴𝑬𝑨𝑵 𝑩𝑬𝑵𝑰𝑵 𝑶𝑹𝑰𝑮𝑰𝑵 .. by Nosa Tosan Omasan

For me oh... If your ancestor is claimed to have migrated from Benin check the name of that your ancestors. If the name has no meaning in Benin then look towards the direction of those that bear that name.

If your community don't soak Benin or an Edoid language then there's no way your ancestors could've been Benin excerpt your ancestors migrated to an already established Community and that makes you a mere migrant and stranger in that Community.

But the claim of ancestors being from Benin and establishing a Community in elsewhere thereby losing their language is not true.

A people cannot lose their language in entente that easily, an example, the yorubas in Delta State left Owo about 800 years ago and settled amongst Igbo speakers and till this moment (800 years later) they have retained their Yoruba dialect which they speak side by side the Igbo dialects of their overwhelming igbo neighbours. Why didn't they lose their Yoruba language to Igbo?

Another example is USEN KINGDOM in Edo state, Usen migrated with Oranmiyan about 800 years ago as well but till date they have maintained their Yoruba dialect whereas the Benin oba family that migrated further and mixed up with Igodomigodo people have lost their Yoruba dialect even though are still much culturally yorubas.

The only possiblity of losing your language in entente is when you migrated to an already established Community like a Benin man migrating to live in Oyo today, with time his children will lose their Benin language because they settled in an already established Community which where their language is not the primary language.

Benin was more like a cosmopolitan society. People were migrated from far and wide to Benin for trade and commerce.

The yorubas that migrated from Ife to Benin most of them settled at Usen and environ and it is on record that most left and returned back to Yoruba land, the several Yoruba medicine men that came to cure several Obas of Benin some of them or their children might have migrated back to Yoruba land as well.

If for example a man migrated from Uzebu in Benin to South west, his descendants will claim Benin descendants whereas they are originally yorubas and were merely on a reverse migration but most of these people will claim Benin origin not knowing their true history.

A Yoruba man that migrated from Ugbowo back to any part of Yoruba land will claim to be from Benin but what he may fail to realise is that he is only on reverse migration back to his Yoruba land. Ugnowo was established by owo people so he's originally Yoruba man.

These are the things we need to take into cognizance when laying claim to Benin origin.

The average IKWERE or Ogba man in Rivers State claim Benin origin hanging their origin on a supposed Benin migrant called AKALAKA.

now, the name AKALAKA has no meaning in Benin but it means destiny in almost all Igbo dialects.

All the Communities founded by AKALAKA and his descendants speak igbo language and were named in Igbo language. This alone tell their origin as being originally Igbos and were only on reverse migration back to Igbo land when Benin became unfavorable for them as traders or due tonwars.

Onitsha for example is said to have been founded by a benin man named Eze Chima...

Now, both names are Igbo names and all the Communities founded by Eze Chima and his descendants are igbo speaking commmunities. None can hear a word in Benin but they can understand other Igbos when they speak. This a is pointer to their origin and it the claim of the migration from the cosmopolitan Benin of old.

This alone proves that Eze Chima was not a benin man as claimed but an Igbo man living in Benin region and was only on a reverse migration back to Igbo land.

Another example are the Akoko-Oke now called Akoko Edo, there are several Communities there which they claimed were founded by Benin people, now how can a Benin man leave Benin and found a Community and ended up naming the Community Lampese, Araromi, Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro haba na this is not possible.

People name Communities after their own languages not after language they do not understand. Most communities in Africa are named after the founder and so if Araromi or Aiyegunle, Aiyetoro etc were Benin founders of these Communities then Benin people were/are yorubas... There's no two ways about it

Below is a supposed Benin plague, depicting Benin warriors, now if you take a closer look you will discover that the supposed warriors are dressed in Yoruba native traditional war attire which is not found amongst any other group in Nigeria excerpt for yorubas and related groups. No Urhobo, Isoko, Esan or any other Edoid have such traditional war dress excerpt from Benins who have a clear history of absorbing Yoruba migrants in the past thereby influencing their culture.

By Nosa Tosan Omasan The only Radically honest Benin man

I rest my case....

This piece was not written by a Bini man but by an Itsekiri man, so there will always be some bias.

Also, Eze, Akalaka have origin in Edoid related languages. These words are still found in related groups like Urhobo. It can be broken into Aka-Alaka.

You should also put in mind that Bini built one of the most successful kingdom in the whole of the Niger Delta and it's only normal for people to want to attach their origin to such greate kingdom. Even related groups like Urhobo are still dealing with the same issue. It's very common to see people saying they migrated from Bini, whereas, these people have existed long before anything Bini was formed and a huge chunk of the modern people came to be as a result of internal migrations from several Isoko/Urhobo and a handful of Ijaw communities. But modern historians still find way to want to attach to the greatness of the Bini empire. It was historians like late Prof. Peter Ekeh that began reshaping Urhobo historical perspectives.

The Ikwerre-Bini claim can be true. But it's not possible for a people to have a single origin. Maybe a handful of Edoid speaking migrants formed a core of the people but from all logical angles, Igboid groups were also the ancestors of these people.

Believeintruth:


You are missing the point my friend. We cannot be an export or producing country overnight. certain structures have to be in place. certain policies have to encourage it. Right now the Nigerian government of the day doesn't have what it takes policy wise to encourage production.

No, the Nigerian government and the people manning the seat of leadership are failures and lack the thinking brain to see we overcome poverty.

We were once producing. infact, we were on the path to become Africa's industrial giant. That was in the 70's through 80's. But guess what? We had Nigerians who looted and said, oh, we can import steel, why do we still need to keep Aladja steel company running? That's how we closed all our steel production plants while we heavily imported from Asians. This is despite us having enough Iron Ore to meet our local demands.

What other race do this to themselves? That same mentality was applied in every other Industry and today, we have nothing.

If not for Dangote who began Cement production. We were importing cement.

Believeintruth:


Then why are you making excuses for this government.

How am I making excuses for anybody? I've always been anti-importation, especially when it comes to things that can be made and sourced locally.

Because there's always an easy way out is why we killed our steel industry. Killed our textile industry. Killed our agro growth in the 80's. The Nigerian people and her leaders don't have the discipline to fix things and take the pain to see we offer values to the real world. We just want to sell crude oil... Loot... And buy everything cheap.

Again, tell me one nation that has progressed with the kind of template we currently operate in Nigeria. Just tell me one.

Believeintruth:


So my friend you think that with these policies that local production will be guaranteed abi? Bros stop living in delusion, Venezuela's case is not in anyway similar to Nigeria's case.

*Venezuela case is not different from Nigeria. Both are oil producing countries. Both failed to achieve anything aside drilling crude oil. Venezuela is only facing it worse because of the sanctions. Nigeria isn't facing any sanctions but the economy is in crumble.

*My OP was aimed at someone who wants us to believe that we can develop and defeat poverty while we basically import anything. Until we create value, there is practically no way out for us.

babasolution:


No government and definitely not this government

Agreed!

We have long way to go.

babasolution:


This same APC preached local production under Buhari, what did they achieve with it,Peter obi preached from consumption to production, but you laughed at him

Hey, don't involve me your political bants.

I've always been consistent industrializing as that's is our only ticket out of poverty. Sadly, no government have shown any sign of pulling us out of this mess.

helinues:


Ignore that guy, he's troller

I've come to the conclusion that the Nigerian people and her government do not want the country to progress.

The whole black continent is a mess because we have been doing one thing over and over again. Under our nose, European/Asian refineries captured our west African markets when we have oil producing Nigeria. We could have cornered the whole region with our refined products and this would have created thousands of jobs.

But well, we have zero thinking people occupying government seat that prefer the easy way out of everything while they loot.

AFONJAmiracle:


Learn how economies work oga

Economies work by solely depending on importation? Tell just one country that excels by importing just everything. Just tell me one.

This was the same mistake Venezuela made that contributed to the crash of the economy. They sold crude just like us and imported just everything, like we are doing. From food to drugs, to tech, to wears and textiles. Everything was imported... Because we have people like you who say, oh well, let's import everything because we don't have to brains to build and grow an economy organically.

Even before the US sanctions on Venezuela, the economy was already crumbling. There's no magic out of this mess. Either we become productive or we crumble as a race.

Life isn't for the weak and if we as blacks can't take the painstaking journey towards industrialization. Then we will continue to deal with poverty.

naptu2:
I pity people that are trying to explain things. The people that you are explaining to are not interested in common sense. You are basically just wasting your time.

A nairalander told me some months ago that plazas like the popular ones in Lagos is better than having local gigantic refineries.

Hidemyface:


Yes, limiting family visits now and that was why I refused her mom's coming but she is an only child so stopping her mom from coming is like I don't want her to see her mom. I already accepted her the way she is, reason I married her just that sometimes, we get fed up.

Sir, You must learn to protect your wife from your family and your family from your wife.

With what you described, it seems it's your family that needs protection from your wife. Learn reciprocity. Without that, there won't be any balance in life.

Don't for any reason allow her mother or family to visit since she doesn't allow yours. Be bold and make it clear that hence forth, no family is staying. It's good you gave her mother aid to get another apartment.

Help from afar and let her have a taste of her medicine.

Penguin2:

Like I said before, I’m not anti-industrialization- never.

The impression I’m trying to correct is that it is wrong to downplay the contributions of SMEs and general commerce to the economy while seemingly extolling industries as what is needed.

I understand your allusion to the fall of Sapele due to the exit of industries, but you need to understand that, like Warri, the fall of Sapele can be attributed to much more factors than the exit of industries. What happened to Sapele and Warri was the advent of militancy by the indigenes where they started kidnapping expatriates for ransom which ended up snowballing into full blown insecurity in the Niger Delta.

So, it is half truth to attribute the fall of Sapele, and Warri, to just exit of industries. Had the city remained safe, the SMEs would have remained. And once the SMEs are there, new industries will move in. That’s what happens with Lagos.

Do you know how many industries have left Lagos since the 1980s? The likes of Michelin Tyres and co, but the city remained vibrant because of thriving commerce. In the end, new industries sprang up.

Take a look at the economy of the Southeast for instance. And let’s take Aba and Onitsha in particular. How many large corporations do you know in Onitsha and Aba, but yet the two cities are commercial nerve centers raking in billions on daily and sustaining the economies of their state.

Militancy and all that are recent events. Less than 20 years. Sapele started its decline in the 80's. Back then, everywhere was pretty safe and militancy was alien to the people.

The Timber industry was the lifeline of the city and there's no way SMEs alone could have kept the town flourishing. Warri would have gone exactly the Sapele way, but thank God for the oil industry that keeps servicing the city.

Lagos can't be compared to Sapele. Lagos had several industries and hosts big cooperations. Of course Michelin leaving won't entirely lead to the collapse of the city, but imagine if those industries were to leave at the same time, do you think SMEs alone to sustain its buzz? Has Kano recovered from the fall of their textile industries?

There is no doubt that commerce has really impacted positively in the lives of many South easterners in cities like Onitsha, Aba etc, but a well balanced blend of Industries and SMEs will do a lot in decreasing poverty and unemployment. This is my argument. If we industrialize, more SMEs will spring up. A win win for us all.

Penguin2:

You spoke with sense, and I appreciate it. You are the kind of people I like to have a conversation with.

But taking to your points, how many industries have packed up from Nigeria since Tinubu took power but our economy is still moving?

Now, do you think Nigerian economy would have remained the same if it were millions of SMEs that were taken out of business?

I’m not saying we don’t need the industries and large corporations, my point is that between them and SMEs, a country needs SMEs more.

Believe me, SMEs are also feeling the impact of the economy. Many are struggling and I'd be a fool to dismiss their contributions to the economy of the state but overall, they do not contribute as much as industries, especially that of the magnitude of Dangote Refinery.

Most SMEs don't not pay the minimum wage and their employees roster is usually slim. The economy will fair better if we have a balance. Not SMEs springing everywhere and not much industries and sectors to absorb in people. How can SMEs flourish when they purchasing power of the people are low to begin with ?

Let me give you a practical example. Sapele was one of the biggest city in Bendel during the 60's through the 80's. The Timber industry then was booming and lots of people were gainfully employed. After the industry collapsed, the city immediately fell. This was despite the many SMEs that sprang up during its booming period. The SMEs couldn't do anything to keep alive the once vibrant economy, because to an extent, SMEs so much rely on the purchasing power of the people. Also, the issue of Tax is not so straightforward with SMEs as it is with established industries but that is a discussion for another day.

If we don't encourage industries and industrialize, we would remain poor and no amount of SMEs will change that reality.

Penguin2:
Don’t underestimate the power of fools in large numbers.

The above is a classic maxim that sounds like a cliché but it’s ever potent, and will remain potent forever.

The reason a character like Reno Omokri blocks people with the intellectual and rational capacity to question the trashes he consistently posts on X, is so he would be left with large flock of brainless followers who would swallow every bunkum he throws at them as true.

In keeping with the above, yesterday, he claimed that Dangote controls 21% of Lagos economy but yet he’s so humble but Igbos will always claim they built Lagos and are pompous.

I was not surprised to go through the comment section to see intellectual deficient minions praising what he wrote without questioning his submission to ascertain the truth value of that assertion.

Well, that’s what I’m here to do.

Let’s question what Reno Omokri said about Dangote controlling 21% of Lagos economy.

And the first question is, does Dangote control 21% of Lagos economy?

What drives the economy of a state or country? Is it large corporations or MSMEs?

Lagos is a city with a population of nearly 22million people. What percentage of this population does Dangote employ?

How much does Dangote pay in taxes to Lagos Government, and how much does Lagos Govt generate from markets like Alaba, ASPAMDA, Computer Village, etc?

If Dangote controls 21% of Lagos economy, what percentage of California’s economy does Apple and Google control since the two companies are both headquartered in California and they are both more valuable than Dangote by far?

What percentage of Texas’ economy does Tesla control since Tesla is headquartered in Texas and is equally more valuable than Dangote by far?

So, you see, a lot of foolishness sound like wisdom/knowledge to an unthinking mind but don’t let it deceive you.

What Reno Omokri said is absolute foolishness, falsehood and outright distortion of facts.

Lagos is not Lagos because of Dangote company or because of the large corporations headquartered therein.

If there’s any group that forms the engine room of Lagos economy, it’s the Medium, Micro and Small Scale Businesses. This category employs the highest number of Lagosians, and this category generates the most money for Lagos.

Large corporations do not build economies.

Infrastructure, as much as it adds to ease of doing business, does not build economy like some people claimed under Buhari.

So, next time, before you celebrate any trash from Reno Omokri, subject it through logical and rational dissection to know if the statement is truly reasonable.

Penguin is a bird of reason.

21% is exaggeration. No body or group of people controls that much in a diverse economy like Lagos.

But let's face it, Dangote Refinery is X100 important to an economy than Alaba and others notable market in the state. The adverse effect of that refinery existing in that space alone will be so enormous that having tens of Alaba markets in a given location won't make any difference.

I understand your point of SME, but that alone can't drive the economy of a state or take us out of poverty. No nation has broken out of poverty by focusing on SMEs alone, we already have SMEs scattered in every corners of the country and yet Nigerians everywhere are still poor. Industries drive the economy to greater heights and attracts far more developments.

What Dangote Refinery will do to Lagos economy will be so enormous and sincerely, I wish such gigantic project was located elsewhere. Maybe somewhere in the Delta because we desire such growth.

Nigeria having 5 more of such gigantic industries will not only change our fate forever, but set us on a steady path. Imagine us having an Industry that produces steel. We have the local market and need for that.

SMEs don't bring in FX, instead it depletes our FX, resulting in weaker currencies. Industries conserve FX and attracts more FX to the economy, thereby strengthening our currency and economy. Both are important, but Industries are what Africans need more.

Fejoku:

Yes they were. The white people traded with the Itsekiris even before the Benin people. Itsekiris are arguably the first Nigerians that had with Europeans. The first church built in Nigeria was built in Warri among the Itsekiris. Urhobos are inland and didn't have with Europeans until much more later.
Urhobos however outnumber the Itsekiris in population so much as ratio 4:1 in Delta state.

The bone of contention is Warri city not these other riverine towns that falls under Warri province. If you say group A is the original habitant of the city then you are saying these other groups don't have ancestral claims to their lands and should be under the lordship of group A. This is the debate and will always be.

Recently, the Urhobos began renaming some parts of their city as Wado but this also stirred some people. Their claims; Urhobos are tenants and should have no right to their part of the city. This is the issue some of these supremacists are pushing and should be condemned. Every of the trio have a legit claim to their respective land and no one should be under the Oluship or ovieship of any one.

The Urhobos being Inland people didn't stop them from occupying and owing lands that the city covers. Heck, Warri isn't the only place where the Urhobos converged with other ethnicities. In several Western Ijaw terrains in like Patani, the Urhobos also have territories they occupy and control and the Ijaws aren't pushing any propaganda. Infact, they are fusing as one people. Why must we have this Warri debate every time?

When you say a group of people are your tenants, it means the land they are occupying isn't of their ancestors. For example, we can say the many Ilaje communities existing in Delta state today are tenants of the Itsekiris because they are occupying riverine terrains that belongs to the group. Can the Ilaje wake up one morning and begin laying claims to these lands? No, they aren't even recognised by the state and they're existing in creeks their forebears never founded. The case is different with the groups in Warri whose ancestors founded and formed the city.

Surprisingly, some of these guys have no problem with the growing Ilaje communities in their terrain. They are concerned about who owns where in Warri.

GhostOfNigeria:
Awolowo and Azikiwe both found evidence and proof that itsekiri’s are the original inhabitants of warri and the rest later ed them find the colonial records you will see more evidence. He has always been called Olu of Warri

There is no such thing as original inhabitants. Every of these groups both have a legit claim to the city. Of course we are not discussing about other parts of 'Warri' or the Origin of the name. The bone of contention is you wanting others to believe others don't have any legit claims to the city.

This argument should be killed. It won't do us any good. We must accept the realities and compromise when possible.

This matter is stale and I don't want to believe we should be having this discussion. We must accept the current realities regardless of where we are from and note that no-one is going anywhere. Coexistence is what will benefit all and I don't know why this guy on twitter and his minions continue to champion disunity.

Again, it was never out of place to say Awolowo was bias towards certain groups in the Delta. Awolowo never hid his love for people from his fold and considering how his Ijebu people formed what we today know as Itsekiri, you could clearly see why he was up in arms and ready to do anything for them. It's human nature to be bias. Also, Azikiwe could have argued from a point of limited knowledge as regards the diverse nature of 'Warri.' No single group should be allowed to lay claim to such diverse place. We must accept this reality and end this unnecessary e-war.

jude79:


Your wrong, Mr vitalis is right, research and development has left you behind, today, lithium batteries last between 15 and 30 years depending on grade, even then, many still retain 70% of their capacity, they are a bit more expensive, but return on investment is very high.

No lithium battery can without a recharge cycle for up to 30years. The average lifespan has always hoovered around 10-15. There's no way you can use a lithium battery for 30 years.

Even if $30 can guarantee you 10 years of constant supply via solar, only a handful of Nigerians can afford that. Roughly less than one percent of Nigerians can afford to burn such amount of money for power. This still won't solve the problem of power distribution.

What we need is transparency and the right people to manage these things and not the corrupt government agencies. Let the price be at the current market realities and only those who are willing to pay for the electricity should enjoy 247 power.

MasterJayJay:


What is right? You have not asked any question.

Food is not cheap, but Nigerians are eating food.
Cooking gas is not cheap but poor people are evening using gas to cook.

The point is not paying 24/7 power supply. Nobody pays for 24/7 food, you pay when you eat not for every hour.

The point is for electricity to be available so that at any point anyone needs it they can. If the poor wants to charge his phone at midnight, he should and if the rich wants to power his 10 AC rooms he should.

Electricity is paid by usage, not by 24/7.

Exactly my point. Let serious people take over power from the corrupt government agencies and peg their price to present realities.

By the time you pay 800/unit. Nobody will advice to poor to only use equipments that are of necessity. And those who can afford putting on AC should be allowed to. Just make it accessible to all.

mrvitalis:

30k dollars for constant like for 20 years?

The present technology can't guarantee 20 years of solar power. Atmost 10 before you start having problems with cells.

My main point is the figure you quoted which only a very minute Nigerians can afford. Electricity is never cheap and that's why government needs to hands off it and let people who are serious take charge. This is the easiest way out of this mess. Not banking on some minute number of people to fund such a gigantic project.

With proper metering and the right bodies in charge, our power generation can rise to 15k- mw in 5 years (That is if government won't intervene and let people pay for the true value of electricity).

mrvitalis:

Generator is cheaper na than having national grid

How is this concept difficult to understand

It is because we have millions of people who spend 20k and above on data that MTN can provide data for people who spend 200 a month

If all of us spend 200 MTN would fold

In Nigeria people who can spend 200k already have power 24/7

50 million can give u 24/7 light that's mere 30k dollars with solar

20k dollars can give you even but u have to manage it well

30k Dollars is not mere anywhere in this world. Not in the united states or anywhere. I get your point but don't just throw numbers. Only 1% of Nigerians can boast of that amount. In the United states, only about 12% of Americans have at least $10,000. This is data and validated fact not some unnecessary egoistic statement.

On your analogy, if MTN have customers that only purchase 200 data, they'd upgrade their plans to 1k min. That way, the huge quantity will translate to a reasonable yield.

Government needs to wash its hand off anything power. Let private bodies take over completely and let them charge whatever they what to change. 700/unit no problem, that way, people economise the scarce resources and also use a pseudo 24/7 electricity. More money to invest more in the infrastructure.

We know how corrupt government organisations are. In my opinion, the government should only run the military and police, every other thing should be handed to private bodies. The massive corruption in Nigeria will make it difficult for anything to run effectively. See NNPC for example.

This is the only way out not your unrealistic high paying customers analogy as if Nigerians are wealthy.

Yujin:

It takes more than just having a branch of IYC and INC in your in a SS community to become Ijaw. A lot of those non-Ijaws accepted those groups due to the power the Ijaws haad in the old Rivers state. Today, the power of the Ijaws have waned and we see some of these communities charting a separate course. People aren't foolish you know. They ask questions over time when they see that the language is different. Without linguistic ties, it's very difficult forming a bond with diverse groups. Even the fulanis in the north had to promote Hausa language all over the north to unite the diverse groups there for a stronger political block. The Ijaw group is standing on a shaky foundation. It won't take time before it comes crashing down.
For the Efik-Ibibio-Annang, they can easily close ranks because they can communicate with one another in Efik/Ibibio. I've seen this happen many times. Despite how they kick openly, they will easily form a united front WHEN THE TIME COMES.

I really wish the Edoid can come together to form a united front but it seems so far fetched. One major problem is still language non-intelligibility. In case you don't know, some Edoids are still holding on to their linguistic brothers but there seem to be no help from fellow Edoids. I'm talking about the Udekama people of Degema town. The Ijoids around them are putting so much pressure on them currently even to the level of violence. It was similar pressure the Ijaws put on those other smaller groups you saw in Bayelsa and parts of Rivers. With Rivers being out of the grip of the Ijaws, a lot of those smallr groups now breathed a sigh of relief and are today exerting their real identity.

The Ijaws still wield so much power in the region and are one of the most dominating group. While they come behind the Ibibio-anang-Efik and Edoid when it comes to population, these groups don't know the essence of unity. And you are actually wrong to think these non-ijoid groups are pulling out of their Ijaw identity.

The IYC is one of factor that bridges the unity of they Ijoid groups. There are a lot of other factors that has made other subgroups go strong with their Ijaw identity and letting go of that identity means their end and possible subjugation. No other group in the whole of Southern Nigeria has been able to unite all of its groups like the Ijaws has.

The Edoid groups in Bayelsa are long gone. They have been so incorporated into the overall Ijaw body and you also need to know some have Ijaw ancestry. Even here in Delta, some Edoid groups are of Ijaw ancestry including some Urhobo clans. If linguistic isn't used as a uniting force, ancestry link will definitely be used.

garfield1:

Yes the Jukuns have successfully done this by uniting most Christian tribes in Taraba under jukuns umbrella except the mumuyes to counter the fulanis and tivs.the HAUSAS have done this too and to a small extent igbos

Yes I know of the Jukuns. If not for their tenacity, they would have long been cornered. They understand that unifying packets of closely located tribes is essential for their survival, especially in a region where ethnic cleansing is prominent.

The Ijaws understand what it means to come together to forge a common goal. Something I wish other groups can do. I sincerely do not see the need for the Urhobos and Isokos splitting for example, when we share same ancestry and identity.

The Ijaws have united Igboid, Edoid and other riverine groups into their Ijaw umbrella and these people see themselves as nothing but Ijaws. The Ijaws in Delta state went to the extent of creating lead for the Ijaws in Ondo, that the Ijaws from Ondo come into Delta and benefits whatever is due to the Ijaws in the state.

The Igbos and Yorubas are not good unifying groups. Lots of Yoruboid groups in NC are lost gone. The Igbos are finding it difficult to put Ikwerre and other related groups into their fold, but not the Ijaws. So I agree that the Ijaws are the largest, but when we have a unified Akwa-Cross & Edoid forces, they should come third.

Yujin:

They don't see themselves as Ijaws but don't make noise about themselves being different. They are not Ijaws and have their own ethnic associations.

Actually, the Ijaws are the only groups that have been able to unify all related groups into a single umbrella. The issue you will face uniting the Edoid groups is the same issue you will face uniting the Igbpid groups.

There are Edoid groups that are fully Ijaws now. They go with the Ijaw identity and readily flaunt it. See me here debating the bond between the Efik/Ibibio/Annang and you see garfield1 fighting me to standstill not to group his people as one.

But not the Ijaws. They are fierce and have been able to command dominance even when we have a bigger group from the Akwa-Cross Axis.