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mrvitalis:

You are absolutely correct

I have an alternative idea to power I have been working on

I think instead of focusing on power we should focus more on gas supply

If we get gas supply to most estates they can power themselves and send the excess to national grid

We can make a law that for an estate to produce its own power via the CNG gas pipeline it must pay a 35% tax in power

That's 35% or their power would go to the national grid

What this entitles is the rich would power the poor

We can generate over 40,000mw like this from top cities in nigeria

You have a lot of ideas.

You should find a way to politics.

Let's not allow these lunatics in power continuously destroy this country while the smart ones helplessly watch.

PJtech:


Your argument: Nigeria can never generate 24/7 electricity

This is wrong. Nigeria uses only thermal and hydropower sources to generate its electricity which comes mostly from gas.
We have a capacity of 12,522 megawatts (MW). What that means really is that we are able to produce 12,522MW of electricity within Nigeria if everything works well. But it doesn’t work well.

For Nigeria to archieve this feat. They need to

1. Invest in infrastructure i.e expanding it's generation capacity,transmission and distribution
2.Diversing the energy source i.e
using solar and hydroelectric power to generate electricity not only relying on Gas
3.Community awareness on energy consumption
4.Energy efficiency management

So for Nigeria to achieve this feat the government will spend atleast $100b. And if this happens there will be increament in electricity tarrifs. Band C consumer may likely pay 100k naira monthly for electricity (can everyone afford this in Nigeria present economy where min wage is less than 50k)

So don't tell me Nigeria can never produce 24/7 electricity to its over 200m citizens

U obviously have reading problems... Go back n read his argument

Then read what u posted again

D.umb ass

PaNnamdi:

Instead of you to learn you are just commenting for commenting sake.if not for this my thread am sure you didn't have an idea of how electricity is generated and how to calculate minimum electricity that can serve all households in Nigeria.

Try and learn

You should learn more brr... Knowledge power and we learn everyday
The country can produce more than enough electricity for its people

mrvitalis:

U obviously have reading problems... Go back n read his argument

Then read what u posted again

D.umb ass

Lol... just as i predicted 😹

mrvitalis:

Generator is cheaper na than having national grid

How is this concept difficult to understand

It is because we have millions of people who spend 20k and above on data that MTN can provide data for people who spend 200 a month

If all of us spend 200 MTN would fold

In Nigeria people who can spend 200k already have power 24/7

50 million can give u 24/7 light that's mere 30k dollars with solar

20k dollars can give you even but u have to manage it well

Generator is cheaper because petrol is 10 naira a liter? You love to create your own fantasy that is not built on facts.

SmartPolician:


You have a lot of ideas.

You should find a way to politics.

Let's not allow these lunatics in power continuously destroy this country while the smart ones helplessly watch.

I might but that would be at least 15 years from now need to build a business empire first

After that I can politics for 12 years then retire to Enugu to teach for free in UNN

mrvitalis:

He said the truth don't know why you Nigerians like lies no wonder u keep voting wrong people

Nigeria is too poor to have 24 hours electricity

🤔🤔🤔😹😹😹

mrvitalis:

U obviously have reading problems... Go back n read his argument

Then read what u posted again

D.umb ass

I'm already scanning through your comments to see if you leave any traces. God help you if I get hold of anything. You'll serve as a lesson to others.

MasterJayJay:

Generator is cheaper because petrol is 10 naira a liter? You love to create your own fantasy that is not built on facts.

You think light is cheap? Lmao

Like is ₦105 per kWh ooh from zone B down

If you use 2kva that's 210 per our lol 😂😂😂

SmartPolician:
Some Nigerians enjoy 24/7 power now, especially those in Band A. Where I am in Enugu currently, they don't cease power. The moment it goes, it is restored. The truth is that power isn't cheap and what determines whether people will enjoy steady power or not depends on their ability to pay for it.

As for having the resources to generate enough power, Nigeria has it. That's why a state like Imo is focusing on using gas to generate 24/7 power while the north uses hydropower and Tinubu is trying to get World Bank to grant Nigeria a loan for solar power. Some parts of Edo State are already enjoying power from solar.

So, in summary, 24/7 power supply is feasible, but only those that can afford it will enjoy it because power isn't cheap.

Exactly u are right,but the truth of the matter is as long as the total power capacity doesn't equate to the figure I stated,Nigeria getting a 24/7 electricity guaranteed for all households is nothing but hallucination of a man after smoking 3 wraps of weed.

Only few millions in urban areas including where u are currently residing currently enjoys electricity of atleast above 16hrs daily,while over a 100 million others are in darkness because the laws of physics regarding power distribution can't be cheated.
Solar power is the most expensive way to go above in generating power for a power station,if this government are smart they ought to go for wind powered generators.There are wind turbines that can generate up to 10MW per a single turbine and they comes with backup generators to ensure 24/7 Operation of the turbines.
To cut story short Nigeria is not yet ready to get stable electricity supply.

helinues:
Would you have said this had your candidate in the last election won even you you people claimed he has all the solutions to the world problems

you are literally the daftest person on the planet

mrvitalis:

You think light is cheap? Lmao

Like is ₦105 per kWh ooh from zone B down

If you use 2kva that's 210 per our lol 😂😂😂

You use style ignore the explanations i know you can't drop the 100k sha, but can i drop açcount for 10k

SmartPolician:
Some Nigerians enjoy 24/7 power now, especially those in Band A. Where I am in Enugu currently, they don't cease power. The moment it goes, it is restored. The truth is that power isn't cheap and what determines whether people will enjoy steady power or not depends on their ability to pay for it.

As for having the resources to generate enough power, Nigeria has it. That's why a state like Imo is focusing on using gas to generate 24/7 power while the north uses hydropower and Tinubu is trying to get World Bank to grant Nigeria a loan for solar power. Some parts of Edo State are already enjoying power from solar.

So, in summary, 24/7 power supply is feasible, but only those that can afford it will enjoy it because power isn't cheap.

If power is not cheap why then are some Nigerians castigating Tinubu for the increase in price for Band A customers? Is it the case of Nigerians wanting a level of comfort they can't afford? If any Nigerian want 24/7 electricity then they should be willing to pay for it. But there is the valid issue that there is humongous corruption among the political office holders. Nigerians will be willing to sacrifice mutually if politicians stop looting our resources for themselves. How else do you explain the fact that senators are hiding their salaries and allowances meanwhile that of civil servants is well known. Why are they hiding theirs. Anyway we see what they are doing with money. We see the properties they acquire within a shirt period in office. That cannot continue.

mrvitalis:

You think light is cheap? Lmao

Like is 105 per kWh ooh from zone B down

If you use 2kva that's 210 per our lol

Show me one person that refuses to off the generator when NEPA brings light, because generator is cheap according to you.

You don't even understand kwh. There is an electrician nearby here that repairs electronics. The soldering equipment is rated 20watts, which is the major tool that he uses. But he has a generator that produces 20 times more energy than he needs. He is wasting money buying expensive to petrol to power a generator that produces 20 times than what he needs. If he's on prepaid meter, 216kwh will still be cheaper than generator.

SmartPolician:
Some Nigerians enjoy 24/7 power now, especially those in Band A. Where I am in Enugu currently, they don't seize power. The moment it goes, it is restored. The truth is that power isn't cheap and what determines whether people will enjoy steady power or not depends on their ability to pay for it.

As for having the resources to generate enough power, Nigeria has it. That's why a state like Imo is focusing on using gas to generate 24/7 power while the north uses hydropower and Tinubu is trying to get World Bank to grant Nigeria a loan for solar power. Some parts of Edo State are already enjoying power from solar.

So, in summary, 24/7 power supply is feasible, but only those that can afford it will enjoy it because power isn't cheap.

Exactly my point and how i explained to mrvatalis

24/7 electricity is possible but it won't be cheap. With the rate of poverty in this country only few people will be able to afford it

Everything id tied to Bad Governance

PJtech:


You should learn more brr... Knowledge power and we learn everyday
The country can produce more than enough electricity for its people

I read ur argument on this thread when u argued that Nigeria can currently generate 12,000MW in optimal conditions assuming everything works well which we know had never worked well in Nigeria.

That figure u quoted 12,000mw is what is needed to give every holdhold in Lagos state 24/7 supply without interruption.listen if this is done the other 35 states would be in complete darkness.

As for Nigeria having money note that we are not talking in naira because everything is equated to the dollar,Nigeria needs atleast 700 billion dollars to generate electricity for every house In Nigeria that's about 720 trillion naira.

Were would Nigeria see that money? Even dangote is worth 40billion dollars approximately .if u minus dangote 40billion dollars from that amount ehnnn dangote go poor agbero wey dey for ejigbo and light nor go still steady everywhere try and see reasons and bite the reality on ground.

mrvitalis:

Generator is cheaper na than having national grid

How is this concept difficult to understand

It is because we have millions of people who spend 20k and above on data that MTN can provide data for people who spend 200 a month

If all of us spend 200 MTN would fold

In Nigeria people who can spend 200k already have power 24/7

50 million can give u 24/7 light that's mere 30k dollars with solar

20k dollars can give you even but u have to manage it well

30k Dollars is not mere anywhere in this world. Not in the united states or anywhere. I get your point but don't just throw numbers. Only 1% of Nigerians can boast of that amount. In the United states, only about 12% of Americans have at least $10,000. This is data and validated fact not some unnecessary egoistic statement.

On your analogy, if MTN have customers that only purchase 200 data, they'd upgrade their plans to 1k min. That way, the huge quantity will translate to a reasonable yield.

Government needs to wash its hand off anything power. Let private bodies take over completely and let them charge whatever they what to change. 700/unit no problem, that way, people economise the scarce resources and also use a pseudo 24/7 electricity. More money to invest more in the infrastructure.

We know how corrupt government organisations are. In my opinion, the government should only run the military and police, every other thing should be handed to private bodies. The massive corruption in Nigeria will make it difficult for anything to run effectively. See NNPC for example.

This is the only way out not your unrealistic high paying customers analogy as if Nigerians are wealthy.

helinues:
Would you have said this had your candidate in the last election won even you you people claimed he has all the solutions to the world problems

Yeah I would have said infact If I were opportuned to ask him that.these politicians questions in debates all of them would just be confused and stare at me.you see the only way for Nigeria to get out of it's woes is to have a good government that is devoid of propaganda because the IMF and everybody sees through propaganda.

Nigeria need to secure a 2 trillion dollar loan for a start not all these chicken change loans our politicians are collecting to fill their pockets.japan owes USA 9 trillion dollars in debts because they are serious.if Japan can do that as smart as they are I wonder how a dull Nigeria would be able cope without going that way if they really want a massive development nationwide In the country.

I thereby declare this objection raised by you as null and void since I have been able to prove beyond doubts that you where just laying claims based on assumption
Thank you.

helinues:


Thank you for answering my question.

So if there are things like this which might take years to solve, why are some people expecting miracles from a one year government?

Even south Africa produces electricity in gigawatts.it took them 4,000 yrs to achieve that feat.you are very right in your analysis and very intelligent at that.

mrvitalis:

U obviously have reading problems... Go back n read his argument

Then read what u posted again

D.umb ass

These are the aftereffects of exam malpractice practiced by 95% of schools in southern Nigeria and as for northern Nigeria those ones nor dey go school before have on children.

Some ignorant peeps just went online browsed and dey analyse rubbish with sole aim of countering my argument negatively without understanding the basis of the fact I stated this is very shameful.

SmartPolician:
Some Nigerians enjoy 24/7 power now, especially those in Band A. Where I am in Enugu currently, they don't seize power. The moment it goes, it is restored. The truth is that power isn't cheap and what determines whether people will enjoy steady power or not depends on their ability to pay for it.

As for having the resources to generate enough power, Nigeria has it. That's why a state like Imo is focusing on using gas to generate 24/7 power while the north uses hydropower and Tinubu is trying to get World Bank to grant Nigeria a loan for solar power. Some parts of Edo State are already enjoying power from solar.

So, in summary, 24/7 power supply is feasible, but only those that can afford it will enjoy it because power isn't cheap.

I am not on band A,but my light is almost 23hours 40minutes every day.

SmartPolician:
Some Nigerians enjoy 24/7 power now, especially those in Band A. Where I am in Enugu currently, they don't seize power. The moment it goes, it is restored. The truth is that power isn't cheap and what determines whether people will enjoy steady power or not depends on their ability to pay for it.

As for having the resources to generate enough power, Nigeria has it. That's why a state like Imo is focusing on using gas to generate 24/7 power while the north uses hydropower and Tinubu is trying to get World Bank to grant Nigeria a loan for solar power. Some parts of Edo State are already enjoying power from solar.

So, in summary, 24/7 power supply is feasible, but only those that can afford it will enjoy it because power isn't cheap.

Power isn't cheap, which is true, but why it's so costly in Nigeria is because:

1. There are households that do not pay. Go to the North, and you will see what I am saying. Their usage is not captured at all because they're not ed to begin with. They just give the NEPA guys anything they can, and that is it. Some don't even give them anything at all. Those Alhajis specialized in breading do not pay NEPA bills. Some who will receive the NEPA bill from tenants but will not remit it to NEPA.

2. Many houses are connected to one pole and ed to one house. Go down to the South and Middle Belt states, and you will see this. What they do is step down the light from one pole and distribute it to many houses. Once the bill arrives, they share the cost among all the connected houses. You will see a family use light for a month and pay only N500 and sometimes N200 in NEPA bills.

This is why unmetered people are charged high rates because each zone has a monthly remittance target, regardless of actual usage. So, once the money is collected from the metered people, whatever is left is distributed among the unmetered houses.

3. Big men in this country who own factories and organizations hardly pay their bills. You see it in the news: how this firm owes millions and that ministry owes billions.

4. People by meters. We all know this, so I don't need to explain.

Why is this happening? It's simple: the house cannot fall and the ceiling will not be affected Nigeria is corrupt. Once houses are metered and everyone pays for what they use, trust me, light will be cheaper than it currently is, but those who benefit from the corruption will not let it happen.

Metering everyone fairly would increase ability and ensure that everyone pays their share, reducing the burden on honest consumers. However, the entrenched interests and beneficiaries of the current corrupt system resist these changes because they profit from the chaos and inefficiency.

If the government and power companies enforce strict metering and billing practices, it would not only make electricity more affordable but also improve the reliability of the power supply. Until then, the current issues of corruption, theft, and unfair billing practices will continue to plague the Nigerian power sector.

PJtech:


Your argument: Nigeria can never generate 24/7 electricity

This is wrong. Nigeria uses only thermal and hydropower sources to generate its electricity which comes mostly from gas.
We have a capacity of 12,522 megawatts (MW). What that means really is that we are able to produce 12,522MW of electricity within Nigeria if everything works well. But it doesn’t work well.

For Nigeria to archieve this feat. They need to

1. Invest in infrastructure i.e expanding it's generation capacity,transmission and distribution
2.Diversing the energy source i.e
using solar and hydroelectric power to generate electricity not only relying on Gas
3.Community awareness on energy consumption
4.Energy efficiency management

So for Nigeria to achieve this feat the government will spend atleast $100b. And if this happens there will be increament in electricity tarrifs. Band C consumer may likely pay 100k naira monthly for electricity (can everyone afford this in Nigeria present economy where min wage is less than 50k)

So don't tell me Nigeria can never produce 24/7 electricity to its over 200m citizens

I know you'll still argue cos of the promise you made but atleast you've learnt something today

Go and read how Morroco was able to generate 24/7 electricity

This is how you people would write long episode in exams and end up writing rubbish after that you go about blaming the lecturers for your failures.
I gave u an estimate if not the actual value of cost to power 200 million + homes in Nigeria and you are arguing blindly can you listing to yourself.

solar, wind,nuclear,gas,hydro,coal powered,biopowered, whatever,Nigeria need 220,000 MW of electricity for it's population to ensure stable supply.americans aren't paying 5000 dollars for electricity yet they have stable electricity supply because providing electricity is the first basic requirement the government owes the people

Now let's work with the 100bn screenshot you dropped.
This 100bn figure could have worked in the 1980s not not and if that figure was a recent figure estimate claimed by a current government official,then that man must be mad and confused and looting had made him loose sense of reality

A standard gas powered electricity plant cost atleast 4 million dollars to set up assuming in produces 1,000 megawatts
1,000 megawatts powers atleast one thousand houses i.e 1,000 s with electricity supply at roughly a 200 watts and above 200 volts estimate

100billion dollars invested into gas powered plants would generate nothing less than 25,000 megawatts of electricity that means at optimal operation capacity with all protocols been adhered to 25 million people would get steady 24/7 electricity supply at 200v to each household.

Now subtract 25 million from 200 million and do the maths yourself.calculate the costs required to power the remaining
175 million households with electricity and how much MW it would need then before you include operational and maintainance costs to the equation.
Mind you u aren't talking to an illiterate but someone with sound knowledge in physics.
Thank you

PaNnamdi:

Exactly u are right,but the truth of the matter is as long as the total power capacity doesn't equate to the figure I stated,Nigeria getting a 24/7 electricity guaranteed for all households is nothing but hallucination of a man after smoking 3 wraps of weed.

Only few millions in urban areas including where u are currently residing currently enjoys electricity of atleast above 16hrs daily,while over a 100 million others are in darkness because the laws of physics regarding power distribution can't be cheated.
Solar power is the most expensive way to go above in generating power for a power station,if this government are smart they ought to go for wind powered generators.There are wind turbines that can generate up to 10MW per a single turbine and they comes with backup generators to ensure 24/7 Operation of the turbines.
To cut story short Nigeria is not yet ready to get stable electricity supply.

The whole Nigeria doesn't have to have total 24/7 power coverage at the same time,it can be gradual,starting from big cities before going down to smaller towns and villages etc.

Your argument is stupid

in my area in Abuja here we do have 24hrs of light frequently.

Efewestern:


30k Dollars is not mere anywhere in this world. Not in the united states or anywhere. I get your point but don't just throw numbers. Only 1% of Nigerians can boast of that amount. In the United states, only about 12% of Americans have at least $10,000. This is data and validated fact not some unnecessary egoistic statement.

On your analogy, if MTN have customers that only purchase 200 data, they'd upgrade their plans to 1k min. That way, the huge quantity will translate to a reasonable yield.

Government needs to wash its hand off anything power. Let private bodies take over completely and let them charge whatever they what to change. 700/unit no problem, that way, people economise the scarce resources and also use a pseudo 24/7 electricity. More money to invest more in the infrastructure.

We know how corrupt government organisations are. In my opinion, the government should only run the military and police, every other thing should be handed to private bodies. The massive corruption in Nigeria will make it difficult for anything to run effectively. See NNPC for example.

This is the only way out not your unrealistic high paying customers analogy as if Nigerians are wealthy.

30k dollars for constant like for 20 years?

MasterJayJay:
Show me one person that refuses to off the generator when NEPA brings light, because generator is cheap according to you.

You don't even understand kwh. There is an electrician nearby here that repairs electronics. The soldering equipment is rated 20watts, which is the major tool that he uses. But he has a generator that produces 20 times more energy than he needs. He is wasting money buying expensive to petrol to power a generator that produces 20 times than what he needs. If he's on prepaid meter, 216kwh will still be cheaper than generator.

Does that mean it's right?

EreluRoz:
I'm already scanning through your comments to see if you leave any traces. God help you if I get hold of anything. You'll serve as a lesson to others.

What do you need let me give you?

babasolution:


The whole Nigeria doesn't have to have total 24/7 power coverage at the same time,it can be gradual,starting from big cities before going down to smaller towns and villages etc.

Your argument is stupid

Alright but u u sound like an illiterate who doesn't even knows what he is talking about in the first place.gradual you say,with our current budgets been fed on loans and majority of states can't even generate enough revenues to even run their internal affairs without FG allocation and your hoping for steady light in the future?

I laugh at you

For you to believe that time will heal wounds of a chronic diabetic patient like Nigeria without addressing the basic causes of our woes and everywhere will have steady light and enjoyment shows you have low mental cognitive abilities(no insults)
Thank you

EreluRoz:
I'm already scanning through your comments to see if you leave any traces. God help you if I get hold of anything. You'll serve as a lesson to others.

your stupid ass cannot do anything...
You think it's by stupidity abi..
Your low IQ brain is too dumb

PJtech:


Lol... just as i predicted 😹

24/7 electricity is not possible in Nigeria...
Nigeria is in debt to the tune of billions with more to be added and looted. The states can't survive without federal allocation.

mrvitalis:

Does that mean it's right?

What is right? You have not asked any question.

Food is not cheap, but Nigerians are eating food.
Cooking gas is not cheap but poor people are evening using gas to cook.

The point is not paying 24/7 power supply. Nobody pays for 24/7 food, you pay when you eat not for every hour.

The point is for electricity to be available so that at any point anyone needs it they can. If the poor wants to charge his phone at midnight, he should and if the rich wants to power his 10 AC rooms he should.

Electricity is paid by usage, not by 24/7.