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babasolution:


Majority of Nigerians don't care about the Igbo and have never hindered the Igbo in any way,limit your labeling to the specific groups that are hindering the Igbo, am from a small minority tribe in kogi,we have never done anything against the Igbo, the Igbo have had it way better than us in Nigeria,we have never benefitted anything from NIG, all we have is through our tears ,sweat and blood,don't categorise us with people who you think are hindering your igbo

You just said the truth. I too am from a minority within a minority in Edo State. In my place no one cares about Igbo issue as long as they don't interfer with our local politics. In fact during the war, those Igbos living in my town were protected from the Nigerian forces when they came searching from house to house for Igbos to kill. Our people hid them in the attics of their houses for days and giving them food right there till those Nigerian soldiers were gone.

EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

I have addressed the issue of high cut off marks for Igbo states. Go and press your governors to build more schools for you and watch those cut off marks drop in the same manner the Naira drops against the Dollar.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declare that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

EbinPawaGovt:


You've not said anything to prove the Europeans, the Americans or Google wrong. European countries said the Igbo would become a Japan in Africa. The Americans say Igbos are the most intelligent African tribe.

Google, an European company in the United States say Igbo are the most intelligent black tribe on earth.

In Nigeria, the Nigerian government demands Igbo children score as high as 160 for an exam other tribes need to score as low as 6. Yet Igbo children are always leading in the most transparent national exams that provide level ground such as JAMB and WAEC. So it just you making unsuccessful attempt to change facts which you can't do even given 1000 lifetimes.

Since it's proven that Igbo are the smartest tribe in Africa, the question you should be struggling with is why the Igbo couldn't stop the British conquest of the Igbo country since they were the most intelligent African tribe in a position to have done so. Arguing against fact points to the low intelligence attribute of some African tribes which is partly responsible for the position of blacks on earth today. So please stick to the topic of why Igbo could not stop the British. I know it's a bit too academic for a Nairaland discussion.

That report is about academic performance, and of course since Igbos have few schools in their home states back in Nigeria, it is natural that they would have the highest Nigerian population of international students in the US and therefore have the highest percentage of blacks doing well in academics in US schools. Is this too difficult to understand?

When someone is genuinely of innate intelligence, you should be able to see the results around him and in the endeavours he undertakes. Go to the South East, the Igbos' home region, and see for yourself how squalid and undeveloped it is there generally. Igbos are the only ethnicity group in Nigeria who have more of its natives in other regions than in their own region. That is not a hallmark of intelligence. Secondly, an intelligent people are usually organized, civilized m, decent in attitude etc. One of the most important traits of intelligence is the ability to correctly predict the likely outcome of an action or decision one is about to take and therefore apply restraint if necessary.
On that note Igbo political leaders can't be said to be intelligent as all the positions and decisions they took on important national questions ended up ruining the Igbo race. Examples are as follows:
1. The decision to enter into a governing coalition with NPC thus giving power to the most educationally backward people to pioneer governance in a new country seeking to find its foot in good governance.

2. Deciding to go into a political partnership that would give absolute political power to the very section of the country where their own brothers had experienced two pogroms without any justifiable reason.

3. Believing that a bloody coup was the best solution to resolve mere political differences among politicians among whom there are no permanent friends or enemies.

4. Declaring a war and relying on hurriedly recruited teenage boys with sticks and cutlasses for weapons against a well trained Nigeria Army armed with the state of the art firearms.

5. Believing that a country of over 300 tribes could be successfully governed by a strong centre hence the campaign for one-Nigeria by Igbos.


Then above all, your well known claim that the coupists (who were mostly Igbos) did the coup with the ultimate intention to bring Awolowo to power because they adjuded him as the only non-mediocre among all the political class, is an indictment of this alleged Igbo intelligence. It was a case of a group of Igbos confessing that they couldn't find an Igbo man intelligent enough to correctly govern Nigeria but found it in a Yoruba man.
Even Ojukwu himself, the man whom Igbos have come to believe is their greatest leader used his own mouth to publicly declared that this Yoruba man in question was the best president Nigeria never had. Why couldn't he find same from among his own supposedly more intelligent tribe?

onumadu:


The bolded is a total opposite of the true quote:

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. -Martin Luther King, Jr.

I add to it that the real test of intelligence is how inventive and resilient a person can be when he is under bombardment 24/7 and when he had no assurance of the next meal (because the enemy was violating all known and unknown laws of war and conventions).
Under such crucible, the Igbo-dominated nation shocked their enemies with many inventions.

You keep sidestepping the issue of autonomy, but I won't let you change the subject. ..

Why had there not been even a fully functioning international airport and seaports where goods and persons can go DIRECTLY NONSTOP to and from Igboland since the end of the war?
What are you people afraid of?
It is like tying your boxing opponent's hands and legs before declaring the fight on, and then you turn around to accuse him of claiming to be a better fighter after you've landed some blows on him.
Duh ... you tied his hands and feet first!
Untie him first, and then bring the fight on, and see if you won't be beaten to stupor.

Heck, you couldn't even conduct a simple presidential election which EVERY POLL predicted would be won by an Igbo man. You had to rig it.

Forget about the so called "unity schools"; what about JAMB and university entrance nko?
Shouldn't all Nigerians be tested purely based on intelligence? Why single out Igbo states to require higher cut-off marks?
Until you allow EVERY Nigerian to have the same cut off marks for university entrance, I will continue to say that Igbo are BY FAR more intelligent than others with lower cut-off marks.
And if you still doubt Igbo IQ superiority, give them independence and allow them to prove you right. QED.

Martin Luther King was a sociopolitical activist while intelligence is more of a biological trait hence a sociopolitical activist's view of a biological concept can't be valid. All biological principles show clearly that any living organism becomes relatively more inventive when faced with an existential threat, and the inventiveness naturally abates when that existential threat is removed. Therefore genuine inventiveness is a measure of intelligence in time of peace and safety when there is no compelling quest for survival.

The issue of autonomy you are harping on is actually against you because a people who genuinely believe that they would have excelled under autonomy would not have maintained a conspiratorial and criminal silence when all other regions were in the streets in demonstration against Ironsi's Unification Decree which was clearly going to kill autonomy. This is simple logic.

On the issue of seaport in Igbo land: does any Igbo State have access to the sea directly? If so, why couldn't Michael Okpara build one at that sea access point during the time you enjoyed the very autonomy you claim would have taken you to heaven on earth?

On the issue of presidential election; so the Igbo man would have won an election after openly calling it a religious war to the hearing of core Northern state voters who have the highest voter turn out and are ionately of a religious persuasion opposite that of the Igbo candidate who so declared?
If the Igbo man was going to win as you claim, then implicitly you are also claiming that majority of Nigerians masses loved him and actually vote for him. Is that not a self contradiction to your propaganda that other Nigerian ethnicities hate Igbos and deliberately don't want them to rule?

For JAMB and University entrance, you need to ask yourself whether state owned universities in the SE it non-SEasterners as much as SEasterners are itted into state owned universities outside their regions. Then per, federal government owned universities, the same explanation for unity schools holds. Most states in the SS and SW were ahead of Igbo states in founding their own universities.

JagabanB:

I am not a Yoruba, if u have high IQ u wóñ't assume everyone is a Yoruba.
The talk is on google because people actually seem to igñóre u foIks, we all know that u are not the most intelligent trîbè.
Intelligent only the internet.

To them, whoever takes exception to their lies must be a Yoruba person. Very paranoid set of people.

Oriental4:


The election of 2023 is actually proof of the OP position that they're the most intelligent tribe in Africa. Imagine a people who saw through the Tinubu and Buhari incompetence. You rather owe Igbo an apology for low intelligence voting dragging them back. I can't laugh abeg...that you're even proud of voting Tinubu has evinced your low IQ, which is what the OP is about. So let's not derail rthe post. It's about Igbos inability to stop the colonialist unlike the Japanes. If you have a view on that please.

But at the same time those very people were routing for a man whom they themselves once described as a huge failure of governance in Anambra. So it wasn't about intelligence but about seeking their turn to rule Nigeria. And if anything, Obi's tenure as Anambra governor can't be compared with Tinubu's as Lagos governor.
Peter Obi invested Anambra funds to buy the shares of a brewery which thereafter plummeted in value and causing over 80% capital erosion while Tinubu at the same time invested Lagos funds in Airtel which thereafter recorded over 300% capital appreciation. It clear that the one who made a very bad investment decision is the less intelligent. Then Peter Obi gave out so many false and bogus statistics.
So we actually dodged a bullet.
And come to think about it, you don't even need to be an economist to know that Peter Obi's decision to invest public funds in brewery business is a very unintelligent decision. Here are the reasons:

1. Those who drink bear in any population are usually of a very small percentage in the range of 10 to 15% , and that even among the few who drink, only about one third of them are really able to afford it from their pockets hence they are always at the mercy of their fellow drinkers who are generous enough to buy for them. In essence therefore, beer manufacture does not really generate revenue from the larger population composed of women and children and those men who don't drink.
An intelligent governor should have rather invested in the manufacture of soft drinks and biscuits which are far cheaper than beer, are eaten by over 80% of the population, even children and babies can easily afford it from their own pockets thus a good revenue stream for government, lower cost of production than beer, etc.

onumadu:


I would answer you this way: The single most consistent test of IQ in Nigeria today is the standardized tests for university entrance and others like it in Nigeria. Why do Igbo states have higher cut-off marks than other non-Igbo states?
Answer this first.

This propaganda has been peddled by you Igbos for long and have successfully used it to hoodwink the ignorant Nigerians into believing it is a policy deliberately targeted to pull Igbo race down when in actual fact it is a fall out of the failure of the governors of the Igbo states in educational development of their region.
Take a look at the content of the link below
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1268440/number-of-primary-schools-in-nigeria-by-state/

You would observe that the SE states have the lowest state government owned primary and secondary schools in Nigeria relative to their population. This therefore causes a situation whereby most Igbo kids can't find ission placement in secondary schools in their home states and therefore have to burden the other regions and the FG unity schools more than every other region. This is the simple reason why the FG therefore jacks up the cut off mark for applicants from Igbo states. It is therefore more of a statement that governors of Igbo states have failed to build schools for to their people than the alleged deliberate ploy by the Nigerian system to hold down Igbos. It is a matter of simple Economic principle of price increase when demand outweighs supply.
I know you will not open the link hence I have attached the screenshots below. You can see states like Anambra, Abia, Ebonyi at the rock bottom of the table as against states like Lagos, Oyo and even some Northern states like Kaduna and Bauchi at the top spots.

onumadu:


You have no idea how much damage forced unity had done to the igbo in Nigeria.
Someone said earlier that Nigeria exists solely to stop Igbo from exercising FULL SELF DETERMINATION, hence self actualization - maximizing self expression (of intelligence).
Imagine a country that contains Israel, Jordan, Iran, Lebanon etc. And in that country, all that non-Israel nations (who obviously have more population when combined) obsess about is how to make sure that Israel never emerges, or Jews never fully express their God-given potential.
That is exactly what is happening to the Igbo in Nigeria.

Unfortunately for you, all records in the annals of history prove clearly the fact that the forced unity was the handiwork of Igbos who had assumed that Nigeria was their to dominate.
Remind me the tribe of Azikiwe who killed all motions for secession clause. Also remind me of the tribe of Aguiyi Ironsi who promulgated the Anti-secession Decree. Remind me of the tribe of Ojukwu who crushed Isaac Boro's Niger Delta Republic quest.

onumadu:

For a very brief moment when Igbo enjoyed full sovereignty and autonomy, didn't you see what they produced?
In fact what they produced frightened some guys in Europe who said that they don't want "another Japan in Africa".
That is the point.

According to Abraham Lincoln, nearly every man has the capacity to withstand adversity, but if you want to know the weaknesses of a man, give him power '

The first part of this quote makes it clear that necessity is the mother of invention meaning that being inventive in a time of great need for survival is not really a mark of intelligence. In biology, we learned about the principle of adaptation which even lower and unintelligent animals practice to survive in times of existential threat and extremely harsh conditions.
The real test of Intelligence thus IQ is how inventive you are in a time of peace and comfort. This is what keeps America at the top of the world power table as America votes so much money for research and their scientists are always in the laboratory even in time of no visible external threat to their country.

Ever since after the war, what have Igbos ever been able to invent again?

onumadu:


As for Ironsi, you people didn't even allow him to stay in office for more than 6 months.
Till today, only intellectually challenged people would believe the story being bandied about Ironsi.
It is like judging Enerst Shonekan. Ironsi and Shonekan are in the same class.
Give an Igbo man 4 years (never mind 8 years) and see whether he won't transform Nigeria beyond the usual black man's level.
I don't want to get into the Ironsi story because it is the usual strategy you people use to change the subject and derail threads like this one.
You can believe whatever you want about Ironsi, and I won't argue over it.

How will you be able to get the Ironsi issue when you don't understand how important the adherence to the constitution is in genuine nation building. Ironsi tampered with a sovereign and truly people's constitution thus sparking off a constitutional crisis which consumed him and sparked off a war.
Comparing Ironsi with Shonekan is at best dubious because Shonekan was more of a figurehead civilian while Ironsi was a military despot who had raw power and authority in his hands.

Give Igbo man four years to transform Nigeria? How much have your Igbo governors been able to transform your SE Region beyond the usual black man's level for the 25 years they have ruled in the SE so far?

rdokoye:


Did Igbo people truncate Nigeria's democracy or did the military do it? The fact that they were led by an Igbo man is/was irrelevant. The military did what it felt right, to rescue the country from whatever plight they thought was enveloping the country at the time.

The actions of the coup leader is no more a reflection of Igbo people, than the countless coups that occurred afterwards, by primarily Northern military officers. I don't see anyone blaming the entirety of the North for the actions of a few opportunistic military figures. No, that treatment is only reserved for Igbo people, along with all the other rationalisations people like yourself have, for just being an outright dreadful human being.

And those military men where majorly of which tribe?
Rescue the nation from which plight? Didn't that rescuing end up in a civil war? Aren't people now of the opinion that Nigeria would have been better than it is today if that coup never happened? Why take power illegally for any excuse? The revenge coup was a Northern coup and those who carried it out don't deny that. Only you Igbos have refused to it yours because you want to keep playing the victim card. The January 15 1966 coup is an Igbo coup because the pattern of the casualties and the eventual beneficiary revealed that there was a predetermined outcome aimed at elevating Igbos above other tribes by illegal means.

rdokoye:


Abiola had a chequered past, with ties to drug trafficking in the Americas. Obasanjo was better than that tribal champion you mentioned.

Yaradua was the only realistic candidate on the ballet, given the rotational system that was "supposedly" in motion. Though, that's all gone to crap with another Yoruba man emerging as president, and a tribal champion at that.

Abiola and drug trafficking? There is no pile of shit you lots can't cook up to rationalize your blunders.

Falae a tribal champion? Another pile of shit to defend another blunder. If anything, Obasanjo is actually the tribal champion for refusing to send soldiers to level Shagamu and Ota in his SW home when the natives murdered security men on duty after having done so in Odi and Zakibiam on the same excuse. But how would a typical Igbo man notice that when all that he is preoccupied with is sentiments?

The goal post has now shifted to 'most realistic' from the 'best'. Comedians.

How did you forget that the death of zoning started with Jonathan with you Igbos' active ? Going by the true spirit of the zoning, a Northerner was supposed to have completed Yaradua's remaining 5½ years but When Jonathan chose to violate it, it was you Igbos' voice that was loudest in arguing that zoning is not in the Nigerian constitution and that Jonathan had his fundamental right to seek office. But now that Tinubu too exercised that same right to seek office, you suddenly that zoning should have been adhered to because he is from an ethnic group you love to hate.

rdokoye:


Yoruba people have successfully alienated themselves. I think, EVERYONE in Nigeria is now against Yoruba people, or at the very least, don't trust a word that comes out of any of their mouths.

Still doesn't have any bearing with my comment.

Oriental4:


The election of 2023 is actually proof of the OP position that they're the most intelligent tribe in Africa. Imagine a people who saw through the Tinubu and Buhari incompetence. You rather owe Igbo an apology for low intelligence voting dragging them back. I can't laugh abeg...that you're even proud of voting Tinubu has evinced your low IQ, which is what the OP is about. So let's not derail rthe post. It's about Igbos inability to stop the colonialist unlike the Japanes. If you have a view on that please.

A high IQ people who vote for Shagari a barely educated Fulani man. The same high IQ people, at a moment as critical as independence, chose an alliance that would give power to the educationally most backward part of the country.
A high IQ people who voted for a barely educated Alhaji Bashir Tofa over Abiola a first class graduate of ancy from University of Glasgow Scotland in the 1993 election. A high IQ people who voted for Arthur Nzeribe twice into the Senate after the same Arthur Nzeribe helped the FG import weapons which were used to kill millions of them during the Biafra war. A high IQ people who were initially of the opinion that Peter Obi failed as governor in Anambra but suddenly began to bath him with accolades of performance when it began to appear that he was a serious contender for the post.
A high IQ people who have been voting to power as their own governors the likes of Orji Uzor Kalu, Theodore Orji, Ikpeazu (Mr. Kerosene), who all milked dry their state's purses , and worst of all whitewashed Peter Obi who invested state funds into his family business.
May God never give me that kind of IQ.

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Funny and phoney excuses. Azikiwe did all he did and said all he said in representative capacity on behalf of Igbos who elected him to the federal Parliament of those times. Else how come no single Igbo man is recorded to have publicly tackled him or moved a motion for his recall from that Parliament?
If anything, Igbos are actually the herd mentality voting tribes. Check the results of last presidential election and see that Obi won in all the states in his SE Region while voters in the regions of Atiku and Tinubu didn't overwhelmingly vote for them as they each lost at least one of the states in their home regions meaning that in such states their brothers were able to rise above ethnic considerations in making their choices. Again Igbos voted as herd for Jonathan while in all other regions it was split. Likewise for Yaradua. Please you are more needed in romance or comedy section.

Oriental4:


Let me answer:
1) Igbos are fighting on many fronts: The Europeans, Americans, and fellow black tribes being used to keep the great tribe dragged back.

You may need to expatiate on the above and cite specific instances if you are to be taken seriously.

Oriental4:


2) Igbo are too individualistic and have united only once during Biafra.

This is not true. Igbos had always found unity and unanimity in political choices prior to independence and the war. Their choice of NPC-NCNC coalition was unanimous. Their decision to suppress their quest for independence till the North was ready to be part of Nigeria was unanimous. Also their choice to fight and kill secession clause proposal was in unity. And so much more.

Oriental4:


I think they do not know their full potential and that the West doesn't want them to herald the African renaissance. If only Igbo could realise how much the black races depend on their unity, they'd not wait for only calamity such as Biafra to unite them. Igbo clans and families are more interested in pursuing money than pursuing nationhood - which is what Africa needs from them. Even our less endowed African tribes are not aware they're mere tools in the hands of the colonialists. That's why they allowed the British to teleguide them ...

This is inverted accusation because Igbos by all records in the annals of history were the only actual tools in the hands of the colonial overlords. Please recall that while the political leaders of all other tribes from as far back as 1944 began to describe Nigeria as a British contraption aimed at milking dry the resources of the people native to the area in question, and moving motions to end the British fraud in order to free themselves from the British experiment, only the Igbo leaders kept of chorusing one-Nigeria and declaring that the unity of Nigeria is perpetual and non-negotiable.

Ahmadu Bello: What we call Nigeria today is the mistake of 1914

Awolowo: Nigeria is a mere geographical expression and there are no Nigerians in the same sense as there are Germans, French, Britons, etc.

Tafawa Balewa: Nigeria is a British experiment and Nigeria unity is a British intention which the people themselves don't believe in.

Nnamdi Azikiwe: The unity of Nigeria is perpetual and non-negotiable. We Easterners don't mind paying the ultimate price to keep Nigeria one and intact.

From the speeches above and the ethnic group of those who made them, which tribe in Nigeria could be correctly said to be a tool in the hands of the British colonialists back then and even till this moment? Be honest in your response.

onumadu:


Spot on.
Let me add to this that there appears to be a secret agreement somewhere that an Igbo must never be president of Nigeria:
For the same reason that, if an Igbo leads Nigeria, he will free everybody's human capacity.
I say this because the University of Nigeria Nsukka was founded by Zik -a man who believed in the same goal; and what is the Motto of the University? TO RESTORE THE DIGNITY OF MAN.
Methinks that the greatest proof of Igbo superior IQ (compared to others who have co-conspired to keep them out of the top leadership position in the country) is this singular belief in his own humanity; i.e that there are no races out there superior to his own. That he is as human as a German or Japanese or Chinese ... etc.
That is why an Igbo man is manufacturing and exporting automobiles of all kinds from his own village in Igboland, and is succeeding.

Unless something changes fundamentally in Nigeria, the only way for an Igbo to become president of Nigeria is through the "emi lokan" way.

Per the first bolded, Ironsi clinched power and all his decrees were centripetal, and the centripetal structure which he imposed on us has ended up killing innovative spirit, creating entitlement mentality, causing intellectual laziness, and killing human capital.

Per the second bolded, How come Igbos have not been able to use that their superior intelligence in beating the forces allegedly colluding to block them from power with an inferior intelligence?

DonXavi:
While under Tinubu's Government we have

1) Chief of Army Staffs -Yoruba.
2) Inspector General of Police- Yoruba.
3) Immigration Boss -Yoruba.
4) Customs Comptroller - Yoruba.
5) CBN Governor - Yoruba.
6) Minister of Finance - Yoruba.
7) FIRS Boss - Yoruba.
8 )ant General- Yoruba.
9) Minister of Communication, Innovation and
Digital Economy- Yoruba.
10) Marine & Blue Economy Minister- Yoruba.
11) National Inland Water Authority -Yoruba.
12) NIMC Boss -Yoruba.
13) Minister of Solid Minerals -Yoruba.
14) Minister of Interior - Yoruba
15) Petroleum Minister- Tinubu
16) Chairman Tax Reforms Committee -Yoruba
17) Head of service of the federation-Yoruba
18) Chief of Staffs- Yoruba
19) Attorney General- Yoruba
20) Minister of Justice-Yoruba
21) Minister of Power-Yoruba
22) Minister of Tourism-Yoruba
23) EFCC Chairmen - Yoruba
24) Minister of Health & Social Welfare (state)-
25) Minister of Environmental and ecological
Management (state)- Yoruba
26) Minister of Youth (state) - Yoruba

How does this relate with my comment there?

Emusan:


But you just pointed out someone who says POSITIVE thing about you?

Was the person from heaven?

You must be a lawyer. You are just nailing the guy left, right and center

Spandau:


I beg, make una ask them o. It was even one of their leaders that frustrated the secession clause introduced by another regional leader from another major tribe. Why they always pretend these things did not happen by the influence of their leaders always beat my imagination.

They are always disturbed in their consciences by these facts on the role they played in messing Nigeria up but rather than honestly it it or at least dissociate themselves from those leaders of theirs who committed those atrocities, they keep opening up new threads to rewrite history or glorify themselves with some stories meant for kindergarten babies.

Eastlink:
Igbos didn't vote for Balewa oga. Imagine the boldness in spilling fake information. I think it's time you learn your history. Zik's NPP was whom Ndigbo voted for both in the first Republic, and in the 2nd republic in1979. In 1983, Ndigbo shared their vote between Zik's NPP and Shagari's NPN with Zik racking the bigger percentage. In 1993, Ndigbo shared their votes between Tofa and Abiola with the former gaining 55% and the later 45%.

Then in 1999, Ndigbo voted for Obasanjo's PDP, then Yar'adua, and GEJ till 2015.

So know your history and be humble in learning.

So which tribe from the south ed NPC MPs in voting for Balewa in the parliamentary in 1960?

Thank God you it that Igbos shared their votes among NPP and NPN. How does that now change the fact that Shagari whom a part of Igbos voted for was the worst candidate on the ballot in that election?

In 1993 Tofa swept Igbo states clean. Google is your friend.

You agree you voted for Obasanjo in 1999. Now was Obasanjo the best candidate in the ballot going by the antecedents of all the contestants?

In 2007, was Yaradua the best candidate going by all the factors of determination?

Broveens42:



The hype is worth it.
1.The Igbos were the first to recognize the concept of chromosome through the igbo-ukwu artifact: a system of identification through codings is the first level of civilization
2. They are the only tribe in the world recorded to have built a commercial airport through contribution of school children and families (Sam mbakwe airport)
3. The only tribe in the world with a fearless feminine gender (Aba women riot)
4. The only tribe in the world that can openly wish a white QUEEN mother an excruciating pain; an astrological explanation of superiority of Igbo tribe.
5. The only tribe that can tell a judge to tell his president that he is Mad; an astrological explanation of superiority
6. The only tribe that built up their cities without implementation of the 3R

A tribe which truncated democracy the most acceptable system of government in the modern era and replaced it with a form of government in which might and force rule over reason. Jokers!

EbinPawaGovt:


Very correct. I have a feeling that it was a built-in lopsidedness created by the British colonialists against the Ibos. Create a lev el playing field and other tribes would feel intimidated. Same reason the 2023 presidential election was determined NOT by MERIT.

You have forgotten that by the regional system we started with, each region was autonomous and that autonomy trickled down to the ission policies of the Universities back then and which were each owned by their respective regional governments hence merit solely determined issions until Aguiyi Ironsi, an Igbo man, came and muddled everything up by introducing centralization by which the subsequent Northerners controlled centralized governments introduced quota system, federal character, catchment area, educationally disadvantaged states, etc policies. So which Britain are you accusing? Was Aguiyi Ironsi a British man?

EbinPawaGovt:


True... I have the feeling that the built-in Nigerian mediocrity is affecting the Ibos. Could it be why they're the only tribe serious to exit and form their own country?

And they were still the only tribe which initially laboured hard against all attempts by other tribes to end Nigeria.

Iceberg3:

The question is, imagine Japan is under your one naijiriya?!

I guess Azikiwe who invented the one-Nigeria fraud was a Japanese as well as the Aguiyi Ironsi who finally cemented the fraud?

chester23:
Crazy sect with their crazy doctrines.
What I dislike most about this sect is the level they tend to control every aspect of one's life.
They act like they eat and dine with God.
The worst is the are not happy with some of these doctrines but are placed in a situation where they can't even speak up for their and against it.
I was just observing how happy their men was when they were asked to keep beards, some within one week started keeping the beards which is an indication that they have been craving for it for a long time.
Even their ladies are busy iring the beards . Which some them even to the extent of not getting married to men with beards that it's again biblical principles.
Some brothers were disfellowship and isolated from the congregation because of keeping beards and considered as an infidel.
May God help mankind.

There was once this JW in my working place as a fellow staff. I hardly ever bring up religious debates or even discussion with others. On this fateful day it was this JW guy that brought up the debate about religion. It got to a point where I asked him if he himself as a JW believe every damn thing coming from the Governing body. He replied 'no'. Then I asked him why he however lives by such doctrines he doesn't agree with personally. He said by the rules of the organization an ordinary member is not permitted to question whatever comes from the Governing body. Then I asked him whether Charles Russell their founder would have been able to found the organization if he was not permitted to question the doctrines of the religious group he was born into before he later founded JW. He couldn't answer me.

jasent:
lol. If Jehovah witness wants money, they'll get it by selling their books and doing advert on their awake. Say want you want jw is never money minded organization. Personally I disagree with some of their doctrines,like no blood transfusion. Aside that jw remain one of the best religion organization.

Inconsistency and unending self reversal s are traits of the worst individuals or groups on earth.

descarado:

Christianity is a religion.
It's presently that pentecostal tried to change the narrative as living in christ- like image.
Is christ not God?
Does he not have superhuman powers?
What is then religion?
Pls sit down with all these waterly argument.

You know more than the West that brought it to you.

Or when you want to fill a form requesting for your religion, do put Muslim instead of Christianity.

That is still part of the wrong perception we are talking about. Christianity didn't come from the West. Ancient Europe did not practice Christianity but worshipped idols. In fact the West too had Christianity come to them from outside the shores of Europe. Christianity also didn't come from the Jews politically as the Jews themselves don't agree with its precepts.

The pentecostals' living in Christ like image narrative was what even came to distort the original message of Christ because it made people believe that outward appearance like how Jesus physically appeared in their imagination was more important than the rule of conscience which Jesus emphasized.

descarado:

From the bible down to all religions are man made that evolved with time.
Christianity evolved from pagan religion that's why Christians still practice some pagan rituals re-baptised.
The bible itself is a product of other scrolls (pagan) put together by Romans during the roman empire.

The thing with Africans is that we were indoctrined to accept anything from the West as pure and the best like we see them so we never questioned the origin of the bible.
Like the English bible we use came about when the pope refused to wed the then king of England king James cos he wanted to marry another wife, a taboo in Catholic church. As the pope refused, the king assembled his Lords and the king James version of the bible was born while England break away to form church of England which we call Anglican church. That same king ended up marrying and wedding 6 wives.


We hate visiting history for what we may find.

Christianity is actually not a religion. The assumption that it is a religion is what creates the perception that it evolved from paganism.
The word Christianity is derived from an an adjective which describes the lifestyle of Jesus which is all about allowing one's conscience guide one in everything. A religion by definition is a particular way of rules by which God should be worshipped. However, Jesus did not institute any set of rules or code for worshipping God but tried to redirect his followers back to their consciences as their ultimate guide in everything they do in life. And the rule of conscience, if adopted by everyone, will make the world a better place. That is what Christianity is all about.
The Bible summarizes this in the Book of Romans where it says that even those who never knew Jesus or had ever heard of him but allowed their consciences to rule their lives were already followers of Jesus.

One thing about man made doctrines is that those who make them later find themselves boxed to a very tight corner by those very doctrines.

rdokoye:


Igbo people have been practising the democratic process for more than a thousand years. Yoruba and Hausa are feudal peoples. How can you call Igbo people politically immature, when they have the longest experience with this process?

You don't see Igbo people giving out block votes, based on frivolous things, such as tribe. Instead, they always vote for whomever is the best candidate on the ballet. Yoruba and Hausa people are not there yet, but eventually, hopefully, with time, education and evolution of culture, they will get there. So that we can have good leaders in Nigeria, and not thieves and tribal champions like Tinubu and Buhari.

The age of Methuselah, the say, has nothing to do with the wisdom of Solomon.
If Igbos so much believe in democracy that they had been practising it for years as you claim, then how come the same Igbos were the first to truncate democracy in the history of Nigeria through the senseless January 15 1966 coup by which they shed so much blood of innocent politicians and military officers of other regions save theirs who were actually guilty of the very corruption they cited as the reason for the coup? So much for a democracy loving people. Hehehe.....

rdokoye:


Igbo people have been practising the democratic process for more than a thousand years. Yoruba and Hausa are feudal peoples. How can you call Igbo people politically immature, when they have the longest experience with this process?

You don't see Igbo people giving out block votes, based on frivolous things, such as tribe. Instead, they always vote for whomever is the best candidate on the ballet. Yoruba and Hausa people are not there yet, but eventually, hopefully, with time, education and evolution of culture, they will get there. So that we can have good leaders in Nigeria, and not thieves and tribal champions like Tinubu and Buhari.

And the Tafawa Balewa you voted for at a time as critical as independence was the best on the ballot right? He was better than Awolowo and your own very well read Zik who were equally on the ballot right?

Then the Feudalist product Shagari whom you voted for in 1979 was the best in an election which your own cerebral Ojukwu contested.

Then the barely educated Alhaji Bashir Tofa you voted for in 1993 was the best over MKO a first class ancy graduate of the prestigious University of Glasgow?

Then the ex-convict Obasanjo whose stint as military HOS contributed immensely to the Nigerian tragedy was was the best candidate over the seasoned and unblemished technocrat Olu Falae who brandished a manifesto that would have industrialized Nigeria within fifteen years?

Why not look the way of comedy? In fact why are you just wasting your comedy talents on Nairaland while the likes of I go die and Teju Baby face are smiling to the banks daily with millions they rake in from their jokes which are no match for yours?

Igboid:


That's nonsense.
Igbos adopted and welcomed OBJ too.
You have an "eveel" heart.

Why is it only Igbos that keep adopting every politician as their son? After adopting OBJ for promising to hand over power to an Igbo man but later disappointed you and picked a Fulani man together with an Ijaw man, wasn't that enough for you to stop your stupid adoption of other tribes' sons? You also adopted Yaradua a Fulani man. You think the other five regions are evil and foolish for not ever adopting a candidate not truly from their region? You Igbos are too frivolous and emotional hence always take stupid decisions which when they begin to boomerang, rather than it your folly, you are resort to victim card play and term all other regions evil people as if there is any form of godliness in your own shortsightedness and frivolity. Continue adopting other regions' candidates and be deluding yourself as being godly. The truth is that Igbos are politically immature and unrealistic.