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@ Things

Yes, in short is being yourself and not follow-follow but you can have someone as your rolemodel! There is no crime in using 'American' influences in music but overdo it!

However, exclusivity is the key having your own sound and style! It will be helpfull if these artists have producers/managers with expertise in the music scene to give the artists space to be and stay unique in the first place! In addition, will strive to become internationally known which comes back to effective marketing and promotion of the artist, in short money.

Talent without money or right connections (people) will not take you anywhere!!!

I think that most people here are just focussing on the Nigerian artists that are in the spotlight already .There are many () artists that are not even following the scenes of hip-hop, R&B or rap but have their own style but yet people still focus on the ones like Tuface and P-Square. I mentioned before some of the artists that I think that have their own style.

The main issue is promotion and marketing which does not go without money. It depends also on the target of the managers of these artists. Or they should do something very shocking that can make them come in the international news like what Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake did ( nipplegate) a publicity stunt. Its just an example.

People keep on refering to Fela's fame internationally which had also something to do with his rebellious lyrics and open protest on the regime in particular about Nigeria. This caused a lot of attention especially in a country that was under the millitairy regime at that time.

@Justnaught

Its all Nollywood we are talking about here. If u read my first response to topic you would know why I added immigration issues

@The One

Yeah, there are Nigerians that cannot go home because they came to Europe without the right documents. So, if they go home it will be hard for them to return back to Europe, so they stay abroad until the documents are resolved which can take years sometimes even more then a decade!

@ Mihai

very funny but true with most of these movies! You are not helping matters too your just copying these movies and not buying! It just go round and round with the circle

@ Miky

You make a good point there too. Nollywood is for the average Nigerian man. However, it has grown to other countries and touched peoples hearts. For example, Nigerian expatriates that can not go home year after year cos of not having papers can derive some joy out of these movies too. It can quenche some of its thirst of nostalgia.

Nollywood has still a long way to go before its PROBLEMS will dissapear however I think the censor board or other bodies should come up with stricter criteria for example better sound quality and storylines unnecessary long parts where nothing is happening just to have a part two should be banned. I think that will make some major changes

@ Christino

I feel you with the points you give that many US artists are taking rhythms or dance moves from other countries. Let me give a few more examples: R. Kelly with Snake ( Belly dancing or break) this is not an American thing but Arabic. Beyonce in Deja Vu her dance moves were taken from the Senegalese dance. R. Kelly with Thoi Thoi I some some martial arts in it and asian influence in the rhythm. The list is ongoing and never ending. Many artists will keep on using other influences than their own. There is nothing wrong with that until they misuse it. Why not Nigerian artists when US artists do it every one will say that they are original and applaud, the other way around the criticism rise.
Most of American musicians are covering or remake songs that were hits in the 70s, 80s and even 90s sometimes not even with much difference and still we call it originality and amazing just because they have already made it internationally. When Nigerian artists are trying to be gangsta we want to cut their heads off cos Naija no get ghetto, right? Mode 9 did well with its song cry but its of Nigerian origin some posters will not even think it is worth listening too however they will jump and dance on commercial remakes and covers of American artists and call them original just because the attention in the media shines on them by aggressive marketing and promotion . What a different world we live in

@ Donzman
Exactly, Nigerian artistes will do well capturing African countries. Americans always seem to feel so superior most of hip-hop music and video is becoming such a routine only things you hear and see is : sex, girls, dollars, rides and gangsta behavior that is soooo original! That is the hype for Americans that is the only thing that seems to sell from the blacks.

@ Ndipe
I did not say that Nigerian artists are the best purely because I am from Nigeria but I feel that they are really trying compared to (five) years ago. There are many artists that have their own style and however If they will become international recognized soon I doubt it. I know how much the West will like to keep Africans out of their spotlight. There are also Nigerian artists that are just copy cats and have no style of their own-- they should not even be in the business of music. The constructive criticism given by some posters were helpfull many were just lamenting and criticising these artists about no originality or Africanism in videos or music. I realize that most of those posters don't even listen to Nigerian artists they have already condemned them before hearing the song purely because it is home-made. I guess in most cases its an unconcious thing which I have seen in many Nigerians ( abroad & home) when the topic involves Nigeria or anything that relates to it

There are many times I play Nigerian music from artists for instance Zule Zoo, this guy that sang with Klint the Drunk ( I forgot his name), Weird MC with Iyoya and so on. They deserve some more credit than given to them. It is difficult to penetrate in the entertainment and if Tuface performed in a small local place in US or UK is a stepping stone already. In the Netherlands, some South- Americans and whites can sing African Queen from beginning to the end. It might not be international achievement for most of you but it is a beginning. Most of the American artists started that way for years nobody knew them and then they met the right person/ that led them where they are today.

I am listening to clock ticking,  Its almost 3.00 am bedtime!!!!

I should have been in lala land

soliq55:

It is because we don't appreciate what have, and if we don't appreciate what we have, nobody else is going to appreciate it.

Exactly, that is the main problem we have always lamenting and criticizing about everything that is home-made ! How can someone else appreciate it then? The mayority of our people are like that just highlighting what is bad or negative instead of shining the light on the areas that most matter people are trying entertain the African masses with music that one can relate to or with!

For those that can't appreciate Nigerian artists that are trying to entertain and make an impact on their people should try and do a better job than. As for me these artists are really doing their best so far many artists had made impacts on me for several different reasons ( I am not going to name them all). They are not all the way there but will be with the right marketing, promotion, performances and confidence of making it on an international level!

[color=#990000][/color][b][/b] Heavy Shit!!!! Although I could not understand a thing the visual said enough!

gbengaijot:


So lets start marketing by appreciating our own.

That is it

Christino:

@ Loverb

Exactly, emulate the westerners, like we emulated Ragga, Makossa, Jazz and what have you. The Puerto Ricans, Jamaicans, Latinos, West Indies, Britons and Asians also emulate them till date and they are making it big time, so why not us? Nothing wrong.

Ol boy. . . you are missing many many o.

They have said it all with their statements. I agree with them their is nothing wrong with emulating Americans almost everyone does it. They are the rolemodels of Hip-hop like some people will say that Sean Paul is with dancehall and Jamaicans with reggea. So, stop fussing about this there are many Nigerian artists that are doing great and still maintain their style, probably you are focussing too much on the artistes choregraphy. The reason that they are not promoted is because we that are abroad are not promoting them, and it is a money and sales thing rather than marketing.  Stop complaining and do something about it! Many of our artists are worth the international recognition. You can simply promote these artists with playing their music in your car or at parties where other people will hear it. I do it all the time and have people ask me also white : they are good who are these artists? where can I get the music blablabla. Tell people about the Nigerian artists you like if you have any favorites. I wonder if your even aware of the music scene in Nigeria and how far it goes abroad based on your topic

Where can I get my hands on this movie Are they already out on DVDs or do they sell them online

Can someone give me the information?

After leaving this topic for a while, because I felt the comments posted on it was mainly missing the point, of those that wanted to look at this issue from another angle were immediately attacked, such as e.g. Didoflex.

Today, I was just reading "new post replying yours" and I was curious to know if someone said something without pointing fingers and condeming others. Someone that could see the other angle of this issue I was trying to make.

I am happy that Feelgood did I could not have explained it better than you did concerning how we should try and live our lifes as true Christians and leave the judging to God. May the Almighty God bless you for that and more eye openers. However, I don't think many posters have understood it but it does not matter. Those that want to hear and see will hear and see!!!!!!!

This movie was shown in the African Filmfestival (Africa in the Picture) for three days in the Netherlands. Too bad I missed it I did not even know they were showing a Nigerian movie produced by a Nigerian. I hope they will be renting them in videostores which I doubt Maybe they are selling the movie online, I hope so!

@ Havila

What is wrong in investigating other religion for more knowledge A person that is practising theology is a prostitute of all faiths. Well, I don't agree with you on that issue. If I read something about evolution and decide to research upon it does not mean I agree with the theory!

This is a very interesting topic. Why do we keep on generalizing people on the basis of religion, tribe or even state? Yes, I agree with many statements made about people's actions caused by religion worldwide in particular by Muslims. However, I don't think that exposure will make a great difference to the world instead it might turn it into a pandemic.  Where I live is still some tension ongoing among Muslims and non-Muslims  because of several things that happened in 2004:

"The murder of Dutch movie director Theo van Gogh in November 2004 came just two months after his highly controversial film, Submission - about the abuse of Muslim women - was shown on national TV in Holland" retrieved from this source
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3975211.stm

My point here is not to portay how bad Muslims are but that there is a difference between extremists and other practicing Muslims.  I have Arabic and Muslim  friends eventhough I do not agree with some of their views or they with mine on Islam and Christianity. We mostly keep  religion issues aside unless it concerns world matters like the one above where they were shocked about the actions of the Muslim man as well.  The nothern part of Nigeria is predominantly Muslims and some of these states are under Sharia law. I guess a lot of Muslims there are more 'fanatical' than in  Lagos for instance. The same goes for worldwide ( MiddleEast,  Asia, etc).  There are extremists of whites, blacks,  Muslims, Christianity  and  tribalists and so on.

I met  many Christians back home and in the Netherlands that I am very shocked and surprised about what they do or say to or/about people and still call themselves pastors or Christians.  Then, I think who am I to judge them . When they ask me why I don't attend their church I will tell them is because of this or that reason! It is up to them to acknowledge or defend the reason to me it really does not matter  what it is. I guess it all comes down to your (inner) heart and relationship with the marvelous Father of all creations.

In short, I agree with didoflex on this, we should try and free our minds and look at ourself first. Are we living the life that God wants us to? Are we helping each other regardless of the tribe, belief or social status one has?  Think before act! No one is perfect ! I guess no one will in this lifetime.

@ Scribe

I agree with you all the way although I want to add that there is a political undertone to all this!
May God see Nigeria through in all this and especially thorughout the process of the elections of 2007.

@ dirtydaya

Boycotting the airlines is a good way to protest!

May the innocent souls of the deceased rest in perfect peace. My sympathy to the families and those that they leave behind that they may take heart and God be with them through this difficult time!

When I heard it today I was in shock.It is terrible and breaking news on CNN! I hope that the six people that are receiving treatment will survive this incident. I hope they find out what the real cause is of the plane crash and if it was tempering or faul play (no doubt about that) they will deal with the people and all behind it!

There should be better security and check up measures with these planes, for peoples sake! this is going out of hand. Civilians should boycot all airplanes for now until there is a thorough investigastion and answers as result. This has to stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong with other dances? Does it have to be Hip-hop? While other thousands of dances are in Nigeria. Then, I do not see the point of making Nigerian dance movie, when one just want to copy the Americans.

Do you know that there are dancing movies that established a new dance such as 'Dirty Dancing'? One can create a script that focus on that or on the process of an existing dance
The goal of a dance movie could be to introduce a new dance, something unique and different rather than an imitation. I don't think that one should just focus on Hiphop solely in an environment like Nigeria where many other trends are ongoing.

Dbanji - Tongolo

@ Saddam,

Its obvious that you can't reason proper. Are that the only reasons you can come up with for judging Imo people SAD I don't know how old you are but you are very childish to generalize like that , I guess children of nowadays are not even like that

I feel pity for you having such a shortsightness to the things of life just because you met some people from Imo that were greedy and duped you with transactions. That is an individual thing not state related, anyway, there is nothing I can say that will make you to step out of your glass house. I guess that is too deep for you, let me make it easier for you. You made up your mind what Imo people concerns they are all bad. Just carry on with your generalizm!

Thanks Emad!



The lyrics are sooooo dope of this new track "no shaking" This guy can really rhyme! I guess he made the clip in the US. He is really trying ooo no be small!

@ Saddam

I thought so you were from Iraq ( it figures).Obviously all you know is how to generalize without even saying why all imo women are bad. Did you live in Imo state?Or you just met a few Imo women you had bad experience with and now claim that they are all bad!

You must be very shallow minded.