NewStats: 3,260,946 , 8,172,896 topics. Date: Wednesday, 28 May 2025 at 01:23 AM m5i35

The “Gen Z” cliche is getting tiresome
Even someone who does not know the significance of this generation things will start chochochoing

Tinubu is still a failure as of this period.

Grateful; Nigeria is bigger.

MaxInDHouse:

He never experience death but he is not alive which means he is awaiting resurrection.
God's word said all have sinned which means none of us can continue living until God's Kingdom comes.
Not experiencing death doesn't mean he is alive because he is not in heaven.

Death occur in the body which Enoch didn’t experience but translated to afterlife.

For more understanding

Even here; In vitro fertilization can happen without sex yet a baby is formed.

Should that then make him the next president or should that clear him of his misappropriation ?

Nonsense people

Animal farm

MaxInDHouse:


He was taken away before his time to die so like everyone else Enoch is awaiting resurrection as one of those in God's memory book:


The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. ‭Revelation 20:13 NIV‬




Dead in the sea means people who died in the sea.
Death means people who are no more.
Hades means people in their graves.


Enoch is in his grave (Hades) awaiting resurrection.

In what form did Enoch experience death?

Read Gen. 5
Which emphasized many others died at a point but with Enoch it was different thing as at 365 years, God took him
Also read Heb. 11 where it was emphasized that he didn’t not see death for he was translated by God different from others in the same age.

MaxInDHouse:

It means he never grew old or killed by sickness rather God shortened his lifespan so that he didn't experience pain from evildoers around him.

How did God shorten his life?

MaxInDHouse:


By faith Eʹnoch was transferred so as not to see death, and he was nowhere to be found because God had transferred him; for before he was transferred he received the witness that he had pleased God well.

Enoch did not see death doesn't mean he is not dead. Many have come face to face with death but survived.
Do you understand now?

What does the bolded statement above mean then?

MaxInDHouse:


Nowhere did the Bible promised that David is going to heaven!

The Righteous (in which David is one) have their place in Heaven
Check Hebrew 11:16
2Tim: 4:18

MaxInDHouse:


Sorry God's word said "a letter", Jesus said no man has been to heaven before his coming and according to God's word all humans (including Elijah) must die.

So Elijah was taken to another location on planet earth not heaven!

Check Hebrew 11:5

MaxInDHouse:


Can you back the highlighted with Bible quotations?

Because this is God's promise that David himself penned down with his own hands:

The righteous (David inclusive) will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Psalms 37:29

They will live forever. yes, even you too; if you are as righteous. Yet wait till then.
The day is coming when that shall be; The Judgement day.

Truthseeker10:

Did they go to heaven? Simple question.

David has his place in heaven.
So also is Enoch.

Yet, they don’t live there for now.

Here you know; Nigeria politics is of selfish interest. Not beneficial development.

Now A present Rev. Gov named a university after a past Rev. Gov.

MaxInDHouse:


Elijah died too he wasn't taken to heaven rather he was transported to another location on the planet.
He later sent a letter to an Israelite king from where he was taken {2Chronicles 21:12} and according to Jesus no man has reached heaven before Jesus came to the earth! John 3:13

So Elijah grew old and died in his location just like any other human as God's word said that all humans are sinners and so death is inevitable! Romans 5:12

He sent a letter to the king through who? Who knew his abode then?

Elijah As prophet who has possibly prophesied about the wicked reign of the king; such prophecy could’ve been delivered as a letter by Elisha who could have been told the prophecy by Elijah while he was still a servant.

MaxInDHouse:

Enoch died!

‘No more’ could means death; but Elijah experience is a turning point.

Yet, those of David and Enoch are referenced in the Bible

Truthseeker10:
Did they go to heaven when they died?

David was buried when he died
God took Enoch

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂your trinity doctrine is there. Go and enlighten yourself. You don't know what you believe in. Stop disgracing yourself.

Is Trinity doctrine from wiki or Metal Ai?

Truthseeker10:
So are you implying that David and Enoch went to heaven when they died?

I’m on the fact that they had renewed life and were acceptable unto God and would reign with him in heaven.

If you believe otherwise let me know.

Truthseeker10:
ask meta ai and Wikipedia. Go and change the Trinity doctrine there.

Obviously; you have found the truth you seek in Meta Ai and wiki; hence truthseer.

Truthseeker10:
You can ask Wikipedia or meta ai. I have given you two sources that do not contradicts.

Give me reason that make them equal?

Pausing here

Truthseeker10:

Is that what Jesus said in John 3:3? If no, biblical reference please.

The statement did not apply to them in its similitude.
They were long gone before the statement was made.

Tinubu wants something bigger than Lagos,
and it seems he is about getting it.

Truthseeker10:

So without them being born again, can they see the kingdom of God according to John 3:3?

They would see the kingdom of God as a result of the high priest sacrifices for their atonement.

Truthseeker10:

Baba go and argue with meta ai and Wikipedia. Convince them about the truth about the Trinity and come back to me

I want reason on how the equality exists in Trinity.

Truthseeker10:

So people can be saved without being born again? Yes or no? If yes, explain John 3:3.

Being born again is a term introduced in New Testament; it means renewed life.

did Cornelius have to go back to his mother’s womb again before he could be saved according to John 3:3?

I told you the old saint had a renewed life based on the dispensation of their time which I carefully outlined to you.


You still need to upgrade your Socratic method with Etymology

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Baba don finally fight Wikipedia and meta Ai. Please go and argue with those two sources. You don't know the details of what trinity is. Bye bye.

Ok;
Mr Wikipedia and Metal AI

I thought I was playing around with the interesting Socratic method.

Just wondering why you could not express your own understanding of equality as it relate to 3 different persons in one Godhead.

Truthseeker10:

So they were saved without being born again? Yes or no?

They were saved by accepting the forgiveness of sin based on the sacrifices offered by the high priest for atonement of sin of the whole people who accept the forgiveness of their sins and consecrate themselves.
The above is based of the ordinance of the Old Testament.
There was no need for the people of old to be born again; all they needed was to continually seek God, accept the forgiveness and observe to obey the law.

Truthseeker10:

Do you agree with the screenshot from Wikipedia below?

No.

I’m telling you the trinity that is being referred to by the Christians is that of three different persons in one Godhead that consent towards a common mission.

Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂what is the meaning of coeternal and consubstantial?

What is equality; equivalence

How does coeternal(3 existing forever) relate to coequal (equivalence)
How does Consubstantial; (3 in 1God) relate to coequal.

Or what is coequality?

Truthseeker10:
What does coeternal and consubstantial mean?

Do you agree with the screenshot below?

You used a keyword; coequal
This AI is definitely Wrong.


That of Wikipedia is right.

Coeternal; forever as one,
Consubstantial; same substance

You need to upgrade your Socratic method.

Truthseeker10:
So if David and Enoch are not born again, would they be saved?

There was detail of Enoch as stated in the Bible; most of the saint were choosen be God.

As for David, in which there was the order of High Priest to regularly sacrifice blood of goat to atone for the sin of the people of Israel in which David was one.

Truthseeker10:
Does the screenshot that you claim to agree with say that equality does not in anyway relate to Trinity?

Go back and check there is no mention of equality or coequal whether directly or indirectly in that screenshot.