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Bfly:


Equality does not in anyway relate to Trinity. It is more of consensus.

It is better to say the 3 persons in Trinity consent.

For example, the head, legs, hands and so on make one man. The head is not equal with the legs, yet they come together to make one healthy man

Does the screenshot that you claim to agree with say that equality does not in anyway relate to Trinity?

Truthseeker10:
Does the screenshot that you claim to agree with say that equality does not in anyway relate to Trinity?

Go back and check there is no mention of equality or coequal whether directly or indirectly in that screenshot.

Truthseeker10:
So if David and Enoch are not born again, would they be saved?

There was detail of Enoch as stated in the Bible; most of the saint were choosen be God.

As for David, in which there was the order of High Priest to regularly sacrifice blood of goat to atone for the sin of the people of Israel in which David was one.

MaxInDHouse:
Most people just hear phrases in the Bible and think they fit in simply because it's spoken by God's servants.

When a person becomes a BORN AGAIN Christian he or she can't get married again unless that happened before the anointing.

WHY

Everything in the brain of a born again is about heavenly life where people don't acquire material possessions, married or have kids, all they keep thinking about is how to complete their earthly mission and Christ in heaven.

That's why Jesus stopped everything he was doing before his baptism, before then he learned carpentry from his foster father Joseph and so he practiced carpentry as a profession before his baptism but from that moment he never returned again!

So most people don't know the meaning of that term "BORN AGAIN" whatever you've been doing before that day ends and you start a new life spending 80-90% of your time preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom.

The Bible tells you to stay with your unbelieving spouse and not leave him when you become Born again. It tells you if your ions are too much for you to handle, marry quick

It only advises you that it is better not to marry

Truthseeker10:
if all born again Christians go to heaven and all bad people go to hell fire, what will happen to the planet earth?

The present Heaven and Earth will flee from the face of the Lord

Christians go to a new heaven briefly to reconnect with the Father then they repossess a new Earth as a final destination

P.S It’s not bad people that go hell, it’s unbelievers which might be good people or people that say they believe in Jesus Christ but never try to emulate him

paxonel:
SCAM!

There is nothing like born again in the real sense, We are all Christians.

When will you keep date to the day you were converted from Islam for example, to Christianity which is more important?

The phrase, 'born again' is mentioned in the Bible. First, by our Lord Jesus himself. Second, by Apostle Peter. So, what do you mean?

AntiChristian:
What date was Jesus born again?

What date was John the Baptist born again?

What date was Mary mother of Jesus born again?

What about Joseph his adoptive father?

Jesus was born again the day he rose from the dead.

You too can be born again. What are you waiting for. Or, you are still following the Prophet who said he is unsure of his destiny and that of his followers. You prefer to serve Allah who said all of you will go to hell first.

Maysdevices:

The Bible tells you to stay with your unbelieving spouse and not leave him when you become Born again. It tells you if your ions are too much for you to handle, marry quick.
It only advises you that it is better not to marry

Please Sir why did God say believers not marrying is a BETTER OPTION?

Ken4Christ:


The phrase, 'born again' is mentioned in the Bible.

critical study has shown that is not what it meant

First, by our Lord Jesus himself. Second, by Apostle Peter. So, what do you mean?

You must understand that the aim of Jesus dying and resurrecting is to create a single platform were everyone who believe, are equally saved irrespective of their abilities. just like Moses who lifted the serpent in the wilderness, which served as a single platform for the salvation of as many who lifted up their eyes.

This idea of everyone doing their separate thing to be saved known as born again today, thereby neglecting Christ was never the concept of the born again mentioned by Jesus and Apostle Peter.

Salvation was suppose to be a group thing

Maysdevices:
The present Heaven and Earth will flee from the face of the Lord

Christians go to a new heaven briefly to reconnect with the Father then they repossess a new Earth as a final destination

P.S It’s not bad people that go hell, it’s unbelievers which might be good people or people that say they believe in Jesus Christ but never try to emulate him

Which of the heaven will away? Is it where the angels live?

Where will this new earth be? Are you saying that Christian permanent home is no longer in heaven?

Bfly:


There was detail of Enoch as stated in the Bible; most of the saint were choosen be God.

As for David, in which there was the order of High Priest to regularly sacrifice blood of goat to atone for the sin of the people of Israel in which David was one.

So they were saved without being born again? Yes or no?

Bfly:


Go back and check there is no mention of equality or coequal whether directly or indirectly in that screenshot.

What does coeternal and consubstantial mean?

Do you agree with the screenshot below?

Truthseeker10:

Which of the heaven will away? Is it where the angels live?

Where will this new earth be? Are you saying that Christian permanent home is no longer in heaven?

The present abode of heavenly beings

No, it is on a New Earth (Paradise), it was never heaven

Maysdevices:
The present abode of heavenly beings

No, it is on a New Earth (Paradise), it was never heaven

So where angels are staying presently will be destroyed?

Where does the Bible teach that Christians will first go to heaven then later come back to a new earth to live in paradise?

Truthseeker10:
So where angels are staying presently will be destroyed?

Where does the Bible teach that Christians will first go to heaven then later come back to a new earth to live in paradise?

Yes

Type in this exact sentence on Google and it give you scriptural references or read the book of Revelation

Maysdevices:
Yes

Type in this exact sentence on Google and it give you scriptural references or read the book of Revelation

So when the angels heaven has been destroyed, where will they stay before a new one is created for them?

Madam are you saying that you don't know where the bible teaches that humans will go to heaven before coming back to earth?

Truthseeker10:

So when the angels heaven has been destroyed, where will they stay before a new one is created for them?

Madam are you saying that you don't know where the bible teaches that humans will go to heaven before coming back to earth?

A new heaven is created immediately the old one es away

I would like badly to respond to the second part of your comment in seriousness but if you are over the age of 18, you are being silly and disrespectful where there is no need

If I respond to you in seriousness, I am risk of also being silly

Maysdevices:
A new heaven is created immediately the old one es away

So what was the point of destroying the former one where angels resides?

I would like badly to respond to the second part of your comment in seriousness but if you are over the age of 18, you are being silly and disrespectful where there is no need

If I respond to you in seriousness, I am risk of also being silly

are you saying that you don't know where the bible teaches that humans will go to heaven before coming back to earth?

Truthseeker10:
What does coeternal and consubstantial mean?

Do you agree with the screenshot below?

You used a keyword; coequal
This AI is definitely Wrong.


That of Wikipedia is right.

Coeternal; forever as one,
Consubstantial; same substance

You need to upgrade your Socratic method.

Bfly:


This is definitely Wrong.


That of Wikipedia is right.

😂😂😂what is the meaning of coeternal and consubstantial?

Bfly:


You used a keyword; coequal
This AI is definitely Wrong.


That of Wikipedia is right.

Coeternal; forever as one,
Consubstantial; same substance

You need to upgrade your Socratic method.

Do you agree with the screenshot from Wikipedia below?

Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂what is the meaning of coeternal and consubstantial?

What is equality; equivalence

How does coeternal(3 existing forever) relate to coequal (equivalence)
How does Consubstantial; (3 in 1God) relate to coequal.

Or what is coequality?

Bfly:


What is equality; equivalence

How does coeternal(3 existing forever) relate to coequal (equivalence)
How does Consubstantial; (3 in 1God) relate to coequal.

Or what is coequality?

You should ask Wikipedia below.

Truthseeker10:

Do you agree with the screenshot from Wikipedia below?

No.

I’m telling you the trinity that is being referred to by the Christians is that of three different persons in one Godhead that consent towards a common mission.

Bfly:

No.

I’m telling you the trinity that is being referred to by the Christians is that of three different persons in one Godhead that consent towards a common mission.

😂😂😂Baba don finally fight Wikipedia and meta Ai. Please go and argue with those two sources. You don't know the details of what trinity is. Bye bye.

Truthseeker10:

So they were saved without being born again? Yes or no?

They were saved by accepting the forgiveness of sin based on the sacrifices offered by the high priest for atonement of sin of the whole people who accept the forgiveness of their sins and consecrate themselves.
The above is based of the ordinance of the Old Testament.
There was no need for the people of old to be born again; all they needed was to continually seek God, accept the forgiveness and observe to obey the law.

Bfly:


They were saved by accepting the forgiveness of sin based on the sacrifices offered by the high priest for atonement of sin of the whole people who accept the forgiveness of their sins and consecrate themselves.
The above is based of the ordinance of the Old Testament.
There was no need for the people of old to be born again; all they needed was to continually seek God, accept the forgiveness and observe to obey the law.

So people can be saved without being born again? Yes or no? If yes, explain John 3:3.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Baba don finally fight Wikipedia and meta Ai. Please go and argue with those two sources. You don't know the details of what trinity is. Bye bye.

Ok;
Mr Wikipedia and Metal AI

I thought I was playing around with the interesting Socratic method.

Just wondering why you could not express your own understanding of equality as it relate to 3 different persons in one Godhead.

Truthseeker10:

So people can be saved without being born again? Yes or no? If yes, explain John 3:3.

Being born again is a term introduced in New Testament; it means renewed life.

did Cornelius have to go back to his mother’s womb again before he could be saved according to John 3:3?

I told you the old saint had a renewed life based on the dispensation of their time which I carefully outlined to you.


You still need to upgrade your Socratic method with Etymology

Bfly:


Being born again is a term introduced in New Testament; it means renewed life.

did Cornelius have to go back to his mother’s womb again before he could be saved according to John 3:3?

I told you the old saint had a renewed life based on the dispensation of their time which I carefully outlined to you.


You still need to upgrade your Socratic method with Etymology

In response to your question above in bold, did Jesus claim that people needed to go back to their mother's womb to be born again?

If you claim that born again means renewed life, did old saint get born again by having a renewed life according to you? If yes, where in the bible?

Bfly:


Ok;
Mr Wikipedia and Metal AI

I thought I was playing around with the interesting Socratic method.

Just wondering why you could not express your own understanding of equality as it relate to 3 different persons in one Godhead.

Baba go and argue with meta ai and Wikipedia. Convince them about the truth about the Trinity and come back to me

Bfly:


They were saved by accepting the forgiveness of sin based on the sacrifices offered by the high priest for atonement of sin of the whole people who accept the forgiveness of their sins and consecrate themselves.
The above is based of the ordinance of the Old Testament.
There was no need for the people of old to be born again; all they needed was to continually seek God, accept the forgiveness and observe to obey the law.

So without them being born again, can they see the kingdom of God according to John 3:3?