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247man:


Nigerian men in uk prefer Zimbabwe, Kenyan, other African women. They say the ladies give them peace of mind. Nigerian ladies in uk? I reserve my comments….

True.
If you catch like better Ugandan babe, your own don better. Sweet dark skin. No yeye attitude.
Though there are still some good 9ja babes, but hook up, bad attitude and entitlement mentality habits cultivated back in 9ja have reduced the pool massively.

Very true.

Even if your accent is thicker than Wall of China or Benin Wall, as a 9ja guy, have a decent job, be a little bit decent as a human being and other African girls will snap you up. Even Caribbean and oyinbo girls. We don see all na.

Only the welfare system is saving the ass of badly behaved 9ja ladies in UK.

funmijoyb:

First and foremost Benin is not a single tribe is combination of tribes of Esan, Ijaw, Idu and Yoruba people's merger. The Aborigines of Igodomigodo are the Esan people. before, many Yoruba had migrated into it and requested for a king from Ile-Ife to come and rule them. Oranmiyan a Yoruba prince and warrior came and defeated the Esan's Ogiso and chiefs of Igodomigodo. To make it a Yoruba town, he renamed the town he ruled Ile Ibinu in Yoruba language and imposed Obaship a Yoruba title on his new territory in an attempt to make it a Yoruba land just like other territories and towns founded by many Ile-ife princes
Till today Bini has a lot of Yoruba words used with Esan and other Igodomigodo languages.

Oranmiyan founded the new tribe "Bini" that is composition of Igodomigodo tribes eg Yoruba, Esan, Ijaw and Idu people. These combination of cultures and tradition is what you're calling Bini today.
Bini people are not of a single tribe. Yoruba played a vital role on Ile ibinu cultures and traditions.
In fact, many Yoruba sees it as a Yoruba land till today.

I can see you follow some Esan nationalists, some Ogiamie people and others online.
Nothing like Esan until they left Benin. It was a name given them for leaving.

Now, no tribe is totally homogeneous. Yoruba as a name didn't even exist 350 years ago and Yoruba people of today are even more diverse genetically than most tribes: Tapa, Benin, Gbagyi, Hausa and others are all there.

Yes, Yoruba now has more cultural homogeneity but largely driven by politics. Having learnt from the civil wars that devasted Yorubaland in the 18th and 19th centuries.

You need to know that Benin people do not call themselves Benin. It doesn't exist as an identity. It is Ovbi-Edo. Unu no z'Edo (Edo speaker).
Benin as a name was never forced on Edo and not even used traditionally by the people. Outsiders used the name in the way we call Japan or China those names. Japanese and Chinese don't call themselves those names.

Oranmiyan never waged any war. He was a Benin prince via his dad, Prince Ekaladerhan/Izoduwa.

All Benin wars are carefully documented in art, songs and poetry. Even those wars in which Benin suffered quite considerable losses.

This is the insincerity I find in our SW people. I said I will give you 2 solid places in SW verifiably founded by Benin people, to do at your own leisure and you now shifted position. There are many more places of course. It means you are not in reality interested in the truth at all. You seem afraid to confirm the fact because it won't fit into your narrative.

AutomaticMotors
Gregyboy
Ghostwon
samuk

AndroBlaze:


We should always try to update ourselves with latest developments in medicine.

If the baby had belonged to the mother it could also have been possible that the father's DNA would still fail the test if he (the father) was born a Chimera...i.e a person carrying two DNA within him.

I'll search for the stories and add them later. But we as human beings should be able to trust each other to an extent

https://jjpryor.medium.com/doctors-said-she-wasnt-the-mother-of-her-own-children-b7f35787ab

https://time.com/4091210/chimera-twins/

Chimera is extremely rare, but possible.

Much of the drama OP narrated was extremely unnecessary. It could have been avoided.

Aside secret DNA test (which the man first did), which couple does DNA test without including maternity test?

Having said that, 99.9% of failed paternity tests are plain paternity fraud. QED.

BABANGBALI:
They've solded the country
January is the best time to pay bride price. that time, most families re broke 🤣 they will accept any amount. update 🤣🚶

Or families may be so broke that they want to exploit anyone "foolish" enough to come forward to pay bride price.
You know 9ja matter nor dey straight.

funmijoyb:

Na Bini founded China and Japan including Indonesia.

Binis did not found anywhere in South West

I know we are on an anonymous forum where people can type anything, but if you are serious to know, pm me and I will give you places founded in SW by Benin people and still acknowledged by monarchs in the area till today. It's better you find out yourself. You can go, send someone or make simple phone calls to check. Don't say anyone already told you. Just appear as a curious person. At least this is simple enough.

funmijoyb:

Oduduwa was a Yoruba king from Ile-ife was more credible than that.

You did not read my submission well or if you did, you didn't reflect on it before commenting. Did anyone say he wasn't king in Ife?
The attitude I see in many SW people, even in diaspora, is that of "we are more educated and we know it all. Who are these other people to have a contrary opinion? But when discussion goes deep, many quickly realise that others have not been sitting on their hands over the decades. And may be surprised to learn things they didn't even know about SW or own hometown history.

Now the the question is: Oduduwa coming from the sky or migrating from Benin, or even Kogi (some Kogi people believe a Benin prince went through their land on the way to Ife), which will a discerning mind find more plausible? Without politics or doublespeak.

The other one of coming from Saudi, Egypt, Lamurudu/Babylon, Khartoum abi na Gaza, mankind came out of Africa. When will we finally accept that this corner of the earth is where we have always been, with gradual movements around the area according to exigency?

In Benin, virtually everyone now acknowledges that Ogisos were given heavenly origins in early days to cement their divine authority, not in literal sense.

samuk:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/12/the-benin-prince-who-founded-ile-ife/

I have said for years that unless our Yoruba people come up with a more objective and credible story on Oduduwa, objective outsiders will consider Edo version way more credible. Even by many diaspora Yoruba that were not fed on tribalism. They will seek to know what is more scientifically plausible. But I was shouted down. It's beginning to happen.

Beautiful language but very rigid people. No joy. At least Bavarians know how to mix fun/celebration with rigidity.

Many forget that without old German language, there would be no Anglo-Saxon language, the root of modern English.

Frohe Weihnacten und viel Glueck!

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Many people are mouthing off that UK tax is higher. They don't understand that the tax is used to provide services like the NHS. When they get hit by a medical bill in the US, they will understand what "high tax" means.

lawani:


People need to understand what slavery was in the past. It was a means of ing for everybody and slaves were not exported. Oyo were exporting their opponents as were doing other nations of west Africa. T[b]here was no slave port under the control of the Benin empire as far as I know. [/b]It was Oyo that dominated the trade. Any captive you can not keep us vest exported and they will include criminals and those that tend to attempt escaping

Wrong. Ughoton/Gwatto was a port near Benin, with European documented evidence of non-Benin slaves and non-Benin slave traders operating along the route. They were described as Yoruba and Igbo slaves/traders from non-Benin territories of the empire.

Who was the overlord of Lagos until late 1850s/early 1860s Eleko Dosunmu period? Some still claim Benin ed slave trade by ing Eleko Kosoko that dealt in slaves. To Benin, slave trade was a devolved matter.

What of Warri ruled by Oba of Benin's son and later grandchildren from 1480?

History is much wider than people know.

that Oyo didn't become powerful until 1690s. By then Benin had effectively outlawed slave trade proper. At least to exclude Benin ethnic group in any form of trade in slaves with foreigners.

An interesting piece.

This again confirms that Benin Empire never had much appetite for slave trade. Of course, OP did not intend to say so.
I wish more tribes followed suit early to ban slave trade.

I have argued on NL for years that beginning with the rise of Oyo in about 1680/90s, slave trade volume increased. Up to about 1770s for sure. About the period that Oyabi and Alaafin Abiodun finally eliminated Bashorun Gaha.

Because there are some tribes who still insist that Benin traded in slaves massively. The duration was short and in fact slave trade in Benin persons or by Benin persons was outlawed quite early. Other tribes within Benin sphere of influence reserved the right to sell or buy themselves as slaves.

Ghostwon
Samuk
Automaticmotors
Gregyboy

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Iamgrey5:
I thought Erelu ( which is a title of Yorubas by the way) said Bini is landlocked.

So how come Bini flew so many kingdom to find a tiny kingdom in a far away place?

Abi you think people travel by buses then ?

Benin had coastal territories. In 1480 AD, Oba Olua of Benin sent his son Prince Iginuwa to become Ogiame in what is now Ewere/Warri.

That new Dukedom was a way to extend Benin hegemony. Benin had access to Ohimwinhin (River Niger), Benin River, etc. The entire Bight of Benin in fact by the reign of Oba Orhogbua (1550-1578). Some Portuguese accompanied (documented) Oba Orhogbua to Lagos, Ijebu Waterside, etc, He was a sailor trained in Portugal as a Prince. Benin was first officially called a City in 1553 by the Europeans during his reign. Because it compared irably with the few places with "City Status" in the world at that time.

Benin City and capital of Benin Empire had no immediate Port but Ughoton/Gwatto Port was only tens of kilometres away. Europeans used to dock at Gwatto Port and walk to Benin City.

Erelu is descended from Eleko Dosunmu, who Oba of Benin opposed in favour of deposed Eleko Kosoko. She could have denied Benin initial ownership of Eko/Lagos but still decided to stick with the truth. Simply because it is the truth.

Some people now claim that the Portuguese were using Benin to raid slaves up to Lagos area. Total lie. Benin had already began imperial expansion by about 1440 AD under Oba Ewuare I, decades before any Europeans set foot in these parts by about 1472. Though proper seafaring expanded under Oba Orhogbua who saw first-hand in Portugal how seafaring allowed Portugal to grow abroad.
The Portuguese were able to work well with Benin for two main reasons: It was the pre-imminent empire in the area and its kings accepted Christianity first and was able to give Benin guns. European guns were only given to Christian partners as a matter of their policy back then.

Gregyboy
AutomaticMotors
Samuk

gregyboy:


The thing is I have to be patience with them even if it entails being in my sick bed
My joy is getting the parasitic narrative of our oba being a yoruba man of our history it is parasitic and untrue

I decided to dedicate my time at the moment to address it even when I wanted to look away but the yorubas get attacking the oba of Benin in their numbers which was uncomfortable to look away from many Benins didn't even bother attacking back I felt disappointed

The igbos and yorubas are constantly on our neck to denounce our history to favour them
If u can't fight them with guns maybe words will do our ancestors were never cowards so I can't be one either

Like people will say give up nor

Well, their attack is because Oba's words carry a lot of weight. The more they attack, the more it keeps the discussion in the public space. What the Oba said is not different from what we have been saying on Nairaland and elsewhere for over a decade now.

So you expect people whose kings a selected by bent/corrupt politicians and through bribery to know the value of royalty?

Or you expect envious entities not to show their bitterness?

There are some things we must surely condemn and not allow to stand for sure. But they have become very predictable. Nobody takes them seriously.

I have written epistles on Oba travelling or not travelling for years here. In one of them, I mentioned being present when Oba paid a post-coronation thank you visit to our father's palace and subsequent visit nationwide in early 1980s.

Yet, recently, there was still an FP topic that Benin people say Oba doesn't travel.

They just want to yarn. Nothing dey.

codedgalaxy:
Are there any hidden benefit's for sitting behind at a gathering, especially in a church.
Its quite baffling to see people who on a daily basis make prophetic declarations like, 'i am the head and not the tail",
" i shall be a leader in my generation" but, when they get to church they run away from the front row seats lol. How do you lead from the back?
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Which begs the question,
" why do people like sitting behind ?

May be they want to be rear iral in the Lord's Navy and lead from the rear/back.

gregyboy:


Evidence eeeh..

No evidence move....

The setting of oba of Benin is yoruba name the setting

Na by force you won turn our oba to yoruba man

@gregyboy, I commend your patience. But it seems you have to educate many generations of history twisters.

Sadly, many of those arguing history thinking it is Yoruba patriotism don't know their GENUINE family history beyond 4 generations. Not to talk of history as a whole. Many are even Tapa slaves in Yoruba land originally.

They are not interested in any objective discussions. Years ago, I proudly narrated my Edo and Yoruba side for all to know that I have every reason to be objective. I wanted to be a bridge builder. But for most of them only lies and bigotry will do, so na waste of time.

Very sad.

NaMe4:


Is that Areafada of Area Parliament?

No o. I have been called that name for a long time.

Chinjo2:
Is it that police does not have a data bank for their staff?
Every police officer due for retirement suppose to have been given retirement notice three months ago to proceed on terminal leave. Which one is writing of retirement letter again?

Because of too many fake age and change of name/age over the years.
Life expectancy in 9ja must be a bit high but for people using football age.

Some workers sef don't know which age they wrote down again.

Even govt don't keep good records, with ministries burning down every now and then.

Racoon:
Someone exposed the corruption they are aware of hence does not want to fight. How can the backbone of government as the civil service make progress with this victimisation and vendetta approach. More civil servants will just continue to widen the corruption scope in the service. Useless country full of corrupt leaders.

Oga, this country resemble country wey plan to make progress?

Everyone knows 9ja is just a giant carcass. Everyone is just carving as much as he carry home to eat and sell.

Mr Martins na one of those few people they call dreamers.

I was once like him but I woke up and japa longest time. When the word japa wasn't even used.

Tetraozonaitera:
It is called Ijẹkujẹ in Yoruba.

Ti ara ile ẹni ba njẹ kòkòrò tí ọ tọ. Bi aa ba sọ fún, huruhẹrẹ rẹ lóru ko ni jẹ kasun.
(If your neighbor eats all manner of insects and you don't warn him, when he starts coughing profusely in the midnight, it will affect you)

YORUBA PROVERB

You can call it Mọnimọni Sha.

Na wa o

toyinid78:
a lot of historical findings did that,go through history of Africa arts and besides a whole lot of my friends from Benin answer to yoruba names like adeoye, adsewu, Omo etc

Omo means child in Benin, Adesuwa has nothing to do with "crown or Ade" as it is in Yoruba.

An ethnic Yoruboid Edo Benin person is not representative of the regular Benin person.

Please have enough understanding of Benin language and conventions before saying a name is Yoruba.

An Edo person with a Yoruba mum may have a Yoruba first name. I know Benin people whose first name was given by a Yoruba or Igbo family friend or neighbour, grandfather/mother, in-law, etc. There was once a time when people related much better irrespective of tribe or religion.

A lot of Benin and Igbo words are similar but I wouldn't say that one tribe or the other comes from the other.

Our problem is that we are still high on the fallacy that this or that tribe came from Israel, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc.

The truth is that those Southern tribes were probably at one time together or at least very close neighbours before spreading East, West and South. Kogi/River Niger area is the most likely place where all were together. The Igbos probably migrated away first.

For example, Igbo call Benin by the oldest name: Ndi Idu. Idu is considered the progenitor of Benin people.

CJStarz:
Soludo's wife is the late Dora Akunyili's[b] nephew [/b]and she resembles Dora.

Niece.

rollywise:
In all no Benin boy inside of them. They keep giving us bad names

Ignorant people do not know that Benin was what Lagos is today as far back as 1500 AD. Lots of criminals like Evans the kidnapper operated in Benin before moving to Lagos. Benin has virtually every 9ja tribe in large numbers.

When they hear Benin, because bigots are typically mumu people, they don't even know which name is from where.

Ordinarily, it should not matter which tribe a criminal comes from, but 9ja is super tribalistic. As you can see here on Nairaland.

Acekidc4:
Paternity Fraud has been around since the time of Jesus, Joseph and Mary. I come in Peace 🤭🤭

I have quoted that about 25% of all kids and about 35% of all firstborn kids belong to another man outside here on Nairaland for YEARS.

But some very ignorant people here shouted that it's not possible.

Now, once again we have official figures: 26.12% of all kids belong to another man outside.

Truth and science will always trump ignorance.

illicit:
Ibadan

Ipata boys are dangerous at night

......and izigan.

Lama70:
Four remarkable things that happened after Shaibu went to court:

He was denied coming close to Obaseki in the church.
His aides were not allowed entrance during 60th anniversary of Midwest.
His sister in-law had been sacked as permanent secretary.
His press crew disbanded.

Cleverly, they prevailed on him to withdraw the suit to foster peace. He did. Now, they have moved him from his office to a place where he won't have any with his principal as it used to be. The bell is tolling already.

Next couuld be plans for impeachment. And his absence from the same vicinity will make it easy for even his supposed friends to conspire with the governor's men unhindered and without fear or pity. This is politics. He may not complete his tenure. Over ambition is already consuming a sitting deputy governor.

When I mentioned the intelligence of Classicist a few days ago on this platform a certain member nearly roasted me in his pontificating that scientists are better in politics.

@Stoplying, I hope you are reading of the recent development?

Hear this from a proud scientist here: Politics is classics and classics is politics.

If you want to understand politics, understand classics and classical philosophy. No joke.
Politics has little to do with the empiricism of science. Except for the logical analysis of the prevailing political circumstances that a politician must do 24/7.

In fact, science that pushes one towards the truth as a habit tends to be a major hindrance in politics.

That's why lawyers make top politicians. Philosophy, classics, logic and rhetoric are vital parts of law.

EleventhWeirdo:
Omosede Okundayo hails from Edo and is representing Zamfara ?

Okay 😂

Nothing new. About 90% of ladies representing the North, especially Core North, are Igbo. Since decades now.

You see Amaka Chiegbu, Chinyere Stella-Maris Nwoke and such. Not Hannatu Abdulkadir.

Burob:
You don’t do follow follow indeed, but under pdp Igbinedion, pdp won all the local governments, under Oshiomhole APC won all the local governments, now again under Pdp Obaseki, pdp has won all the local governments?

Yes, rotation. Now Edo Central should go next. Osunbor from Edo Central won in 2007 but the court overturned it in favour of Oshio.

We cannot afford to greedy politicians to manufacture crisis. Let each serve their time and go.

I know many would have liked Edo to vote APC in 2023 presidential but being a sophisticated place with very educated people, Edo like Lagos and Abuja voted Labour. Truly cosmopolitan places. Not tribal politics. Enlightened people don't do "Baba so pe" tribal politics.

Though South South is traditionally PDP, especially as it was the only inclusive national party previously.
Edo vote tactically, not blindly. Voting for presidency and governorship/LG may differ.

Uniben and Unilag always led protests in Nigeria. As far back as Ali must go days.

APC and PDP have lost their way. LP is being gradually taken over by political prostitutes/opportunists from APC/PDP.

Something got to give soon. Ali Bongo the noisemaker should be a warning to smug politicians.
When the youth finally rebel, dem go know how far.

Pandar01:



😂😂😂 Oya let's go to our ancestral root.
BETWEEN

YORUBA
HAUSA
IGBO,
WHERE YOUR ANCESTRAL SPRINGING COME FROM?

JJST MENTION ONE OF THEM MAKE I HEAR ABEG 😂😂😂😂

Then it shows that you must be a jambite here.

I have clearly outlined my ancestry in posts here since 2011.

So I don't have to write anything new. All are already here. So you can't say I am just making it up.

Pandar01:




Any how una like , talk am,

Incase you don't know or maybe you are a child , you were forced to be Yoruba and you are like a slave to the yorubas ..

Go and ask your father how we accepted you all from that region in Lagos when the Igbos took the war to your doorsteps on Benin .

Even the Igbos remove your names from their Biafra list , the yorubas found yourbfore father's ,and now you are like slaves wandering around the surface of the earth..doing follow follow up and down..

Today una be Yoruba , tomorrow una be Igbo , next tomorrow una be south South.. even more confused than the Igbos .

Finally una gum body with the yorubas .. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Edo no be Lagos.

Home of cultism, child prostitution, women trafficking, armed robbery, voodoo extension, rituals, witchcrafting and all the worst evil you can ever think of

Even their oba na our slave go and ask Incase you don't know , oba wey dey bow down to queen 😂😂😂😂..

Edo no be Lagos 😂😂😂

Funny thing is in that Yorubaland, you have no level. It is Tapa slave forcefully claiming Yoruba, totally devoid of Omoluabi ethos, that show their low pedigree like this. Yorubaland has suffered.