NewStats: 3,261,381 , 8,173,850 topics. Date: Thursday, 29 May 2025 at 05:31 AM 6o3v62

Yeah Nigeria drone factories are bigger and could produced more drones. İ mean this all so makes a lot of sense. They need more drones.

All so milkor is not a major drone supplier. They really new at it. Denel and CSIR have been the main supplier to the SANDF.

The milkor 380 is really new.

The Indiza uav is the main drone the SA army needs to. Done thing like the milkor 380 would be a major purches and take done time since again it a new product. The İndiza is small and can be purchesed under a easier to mange procurment channel than the milkor 380. The more some thing costs the harder it is to get the money. İn fact if my unit needed a drone and there was one for 5000 rand i personaly could run the paper work and sighn for it. A milkor 380 will need people with heavy shoulders or wearing suits to work to sighn for it.

MiddleDimension:


Please forgive him because of the likes of us.

With Nigeria's many military hardwares, which I am not impressed with, by the way, we still haven't been able to put a stop to violence in within our country.

don't worry I don't hate nigerians or think every nigerian is like him. I have met nigerians in real life and non where the steortypical gangster that people in south Africa think they all are. But it often only takes one person to ruin the reputation for an entire group of people.

kabe1:


I don't need to shit on South-Africa, your national news service has done a perfect job already!!!



The SANDF is a joke and with clowns like you in it, I can clearly see why.

I been civil and trying to talk to a embarsment of Human being. People like you are why south Africans hate nigerians by the way, you bring shame to your entier country. But i am not doing it for you. İ am doing the others who might read your stupidty

kabe1:


We have picture and video of defeated SA soldiers raising the white flag.

There's enough video evidence showing SA soldiers celebrating with their captors and taking videos with them.

The SANDF is toast.!!!!

We have pictures and video of south African solders talking to M23 with there weapons still.

What prisoner still have there weapons.

kabe1:


You're too dull!

A national news is any media that has significant representation/Presence across the federation.

With people like you in the SANDF, I see exactly why you only have 6 operational aircraft.

We not a federastion. We are a republic. The fact you got this fact wrong means your country should be ashamed of you.

News 24 is online they have reprenstastion globaly. İt does not mean they nastional. The south African nastional broad cast company is SABC.

Exnavyboy62:


I’m guessing you got this info from the list of equipments of the Nigerian army in Wikipedia. Not all vehicles you see in that list are still in active service with the Nigerian army. The Nigerian army is very secretive about its inventory and procurements so it’s difficult to keep track of which vehicles are in active service and which are not.

I would assume the Reva and Casspir MRAPs are not in active service because the last time we saw the Reva MRAPs on the field is as far back as 2015s during the Jonathan istration. Nowadays the most common vehicle on the field is the CS/VP-3 Bigfoot MRAPs and the DongFeng Mengshi CSK 131.
As for the Casspir, due to its meagre number of 5, its likely the Nigerian army bought them to test them and see if they would be good on Nigerian terrain or if they would be able to work as expected of them. If anything, both Reva and Casspir have probably been cannibalized for spare parts or used in the developments of some of our locally made armoured vehicles.

You are probably correct there but I feel it still was a waist those Rəva and casspirs could of been skipped

kabe1:


You military got comprehensively beaten, begged for a ceasefire and took tiktok videos with their victors.

Good sportsmanship I guess!!!

What a shame.


Defeated in Mozambique, defeated in the DRC yet you want to go to war with Rwanda.

Two theaters with heavy Rwandan presence.

What a joke!!

Those rebels all so never took over the SANDF base. They held there ground unlike the times nigerian solders have dressed as civlians to run away.

What defeat in mozambique. When we left there where no more rebel attacks and the local government was not working with us.

kabe1:


Doesn't change the fact you only have 6 operational aircrafts.

What a disaster of a military.

The art source i posted that actually cited where it got its info out the number at 20% out of 199 or arround 40. Still low but not the 6 out of 300 news 24 claimed. İf you going to shit on south Africa uses actual numbers.


As for the qustion asked about rawanda they have 21 aircraft total. SAAF spends far less of perctange of it GDP on defence to.

kabe1:


An aircraft includes all flying machine.

Your national news provided data you only have 6 operational flying machines, not just helicopters which is a type of aircraft, but not the only aircraft.

You don't understand the difference, yet here you are arguing.


This is exactly why the SAAF only has 6 operational.

News 24 is not our nastional news. They a online news site

The fact you dont know this means maybe you should not talk.

The closet we have to a nastional news is SABC

bidexiii:



How many deferent equipment/things we have has an army or airforce ?

The nigerian army uses 12 difrent rifles and 3 difrent calibers 5.56 nato, 7.62mm pact and 7.62mm nato

4 difrent tanks and 3 difrent calibers for the main gun 125mm, 105mm and 100mm

2 difrent tracked scout vechiels but it the same chassie so it not a big deal

5 difrent armoured scout cars.

2 difrent IFVs

Then more than 20 difrent APCs, MRAPs and other armoured vechiles.

Now a lot of these do the same job in a difrent method but in a lot of cases Nigeria has multpil vechiles doing the same job and some of them are in so low numbers as to make it strange you have them. Why does the nigerian army have 5 casspir MRAPs are those even still working are the 40 Reva MRAPs even still working. How much more does it cost in maintance VS the VP3.


İ under stand having small numbers of vechiels if they do a very specfic job like speciol forces but the REVA is a Mrap on par with all the other MRAPs

kabe1:


I'm not the one who confirmed you only have 6 operational aircrafts.

No, news 24 made the claim. They using data that is both wrong and old. İ posted the evidiance that explains it but you can just see the news 24 articel got the number of aircraft in the Saaf wrong.

kabe1:


You need to understand the difference between an aircraft and a helicopter, when you do, you can come back to me with this question.

A helcopter is a class of aircraft. There is no difrence according to the SAAF

kabe1:


Debunked by whom, their's no evidence that you have more than 6 Operational aircrafts.

I mean you have helicopters grounded in the DRC.

The SANDF is a mess!

I posted the source you all just cant read. İ know your country does not invest in schooling but I am shocked just how dumb you all are.

kabe1:


There enough video evidence showing your soldiers raising the white flag and taking pictures with their captors in iration.

The SANDF is a joke.

The white flag is a flag of truce not surrender. İt is a sign to intent to talk or to show that you not in combat. There have been time when the attacker has flowen a white flag to aproach a defender to talk to them.


So please dont talk about things you know nothing about

AskiaHarem:


Yes I’m aware of that. I don’t expect Nigeria to order four dozen fighters in one order but a simple dozen or squadron from time to time or annually would be great. I tire of the handful of tanks or fighters here and there.

The biggest issue with Nigeria is they keeping ordering different things.

İt OK to buy one or two jets or tanks a year as long as they the same jet.

jl115:
even NPOs need to technically make a profit to be sustainable bru!!

Also the biggest companies in China are SOEs

When they subersdized by the government is there Profit even real?

I never said there SOEs where not the biggest. One of the largest south African companies is a SOE. China has large non SOE companies that make a lot of money

Example Tencent is one of the worlds largest multi media company thst focus on video games. İt is massive. İt is chinness and a publicaly traded company. So yeah China is not Marxist in any form.

kabe1:


Enough to wipe the floor with the SANDF.

I mean your defeated Soldiers were taking pictures of iration with M23 commanders. A group Rwanda backs and you think you can withstand Rwanda in any sort of combat.

It would be a helpless shellacking.

The SANDF is a joke!!!

It clear you dont know what you talking about

kabe1:




How was South-Africa going to fight Rwanda with 6 operational aircrafts?

So you just stupid and cant read

and any case how many does rawnda have

kabe1:


It's all over your National News!!

There's no evidence South-Africa has more than 6 operational aircrafts in your air force.


https://x.com/Newzroom405/status/1906055872930795657

Also, South-African soldiers defeated by M23 rebels in the DRC were seen taking photos and videos with M23.


https://x.com/africaken1/status/1905698646634692928

What a disgrace!!!

they all site the first news article witch I have shown is wrong a I have all so shown evdiance that there are more aircraft flying. The first article that every one sites does not have evdiance to back the claim and even gets the number of aircraft in the SAAF wrong

And M23 is more of a army than the FARDC army. South African solders do not hate the M23 rebels or Rawandan Army we fought a battle with against them but it was political. The M23 commander and the SA commander have each others cell phone number.

MiddleDimension:


But their largest companies are SOEs

that does not mean any thing since there are very wealthy none SOE companies in china to.

jl115:
Where in a Marxist ideology does it state companies can't be for profit?? SOEs literally have to be profitable for a Marxist country to survive...

SOE does not need to make a Profit (look at how many are subberserdized) and the Supper wealthy companies in China are not SOEs

AskiaHarem:


Wish Nigeria would buy Aircraft in bulk like that.

Your country does not have the cash for a deal like that. Egypt gets a lot of miltary aid money from America so they have money to throw arround

kabe1:
The South African Air Force (SAAF) has all but collapsed, and has no fighting capacity left. It has only six operable military aircraft.


https://www.news24.com/news24/investigations/defenceless-only-six-of-330-sa-air-force-aircraft-in-working-order-20250324





Let me leave this here.

That articel is wrong. İ mean they have the number of aircraft in the airforce wrong so if they cant get that basic fact correct how can you trust what they said

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/setting-the-record-straight-on-saaf-aircraft-availability/


I would not trust reports on the SANDF from media who dont even know how many aircraft the Saaf has

jl115:
What's your point? All companies that aren't NPOs are for profit even SOEs

I a captetlist society a true one like what marxs wanted you can not have a wealthy class running a for Profit corporation.

China stoped being a commie state years ago.

jl115:
Ok so C isn't marxist even though they say they are marxist and are communist.....some logic their bru

Chinna is super capterlist just controlled cappterlism. There lots of companies in china where the sole goal is provit above all

jl115:
the C literally calls itself Marxist in its constitution bru so yeah they are Marxist.

Europe is moving towards
more center right but certainly aren't there yet at best they are center leaning

FF+ is center right not right wing, policy wise

if a man calls him self a women is it a he or she?

AskiaHarem:
It’s crazy how there’s a Balkan esc war going on in Africa and The East African Community is essentially at war between it’s . How is little o’l Rwanda setting off fire crackers right in the center of the neighborhood committee so freely? Not to mention the possibility of another South Sudan civil war breaking out.

I only a few years ago when this was speculated to happen in the ECOWAS neighborhood because of the junta alliance which has moderately calmed down the past year.

The EAC never should have expanded.

I would say that the M23 is an arm of the Rwandan military at this point. In of training and equipment, they so linked to Rwanda that they could be a branch of the RDF.

I think the fighting that took place was complicated and that without Rwandan , the M23 would have failed in their attack. I don't think it matters if the soldiers that attacked the SADC forces were the Rwanan army or M23 at this point.


All so I agree Rwanda should be suspended.

AskiaHarem:
Would you consider this a fair assessment of the conflicting factions in the DRC? Are Rwandan troops actually firing upon South African & EAC peacekeepers? All of these key players are part of the East African Community and is seems the neighborhood considers Rwanda to be in the wrong here. So your telling not only has Rwanda not been suspended yet but The East African Community is fundamentally in a “pseudo civil war” amongst its states?

The EAC should have expanded.

I would say that the M23 is an arm of the Rwandan military at this point. In of training and equipment, they so linked to Rwanda that they could be a branch of the RDF.

I think the fighting that took place was complicated and that without Rwandan , the M23 would have failed in their attack. I don't think it matters if the soldiers that attacked the SADC forces were the Rwanan army or M23 at this point.


All so I agree Rwanda should be suspended.

Baller254:
I realized long ago Trump/musk haters have common sense problem, emotional issues and are victims of liberal propaganda and brainwashing. The kind that will attacks and violence against opposing opinions, weak borders and immigration, gender confused men in women's spaces, dumb economic policies that doesn't benefit it's own nations, virtue signaling with nice words while doing the exact opposite...etc(the list is too long)
Trump is blunt and real, his intentions are clear not masked in niceties like the modern day leftists who are truly the evil ones.
a politician who actually did what he promised.

I hate both for very different reasons and hated them when they where still shilling for the Democrats.

jl115:
What policies are rac1st? name just one if you can.

he signed a order to have white afrikans farmers be dcleaed refugees. Ignoring that there are other groups that farm in south Africa that suffer far more. This is a clear racist act

jl115:
Your post is full of contradiction, firstly how is the South African Communist Party NOT Marxist, its literally in the name. Also how can the DA be center right if it wants to be closer to a socialist European economy? In fact I slightly agree with this statement however the DA is 100% center left. The only relevant party that could be considered center right based on policy is the FF+

you do know that not all comunist movements are the same and just because they have communist in the name does not make them comunist. are you saying the C is a marxist group.

Europe is center-right for the most part. or at least closer to the center than they are to the extreme.

FF+ are indeed right wing but all so pretty small.

jl115:
What about Trump is rac1st? let's start there

his polices