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iamoyindamola(m): 1:30pm On May 15
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The problem is not the auditors but the ant.

Every recognition in the books is guided by IFRS/US GAAP or some other GAAP Standards. The duty of the ant/controller/CFO is align this with whatever their postings/ERP/System is.

The auditors job is just to confirm that what the system/ERP shows aligns with what it should be per standards. When this doesnt happen is when you start having talks of adjustments here and there.

When the above doesnt happen
Another angle
But all these can be solved if the company have internal audit because they will be auditing every transactions and flagged those that need correction before the external audits
iamoyindamola(m): 1:31pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


Started what oh?

Person ask me for evidence of Sowore criticizing Tinubu I posted now amala begin turn et na me start
Kundus fun yin
09: 1:33pm On May 15
Ibime:


You know as e be na

Just Anambra result not being in line with trend should have already raised red flags

But I think the collation is done at the end. Data is very easy to aggregate once all the work is done. Don't be surprised if the timeframe between collation of insightable data and announcement of final results is few days to a week. After all election turnaround time is 24 hours within which all data sets by region etc are aggregated

Even at that you may have various levels of the food chain managing their communication levels eg IT manager not fronting up to Director until he has reviewed and trouble-shooted etc which causes delays along the whole chain. And even Oyedele himself may be too lazy to review the data for insights along the way in the process until the final data landed on his head like a sledgehammer.


This.

Plus I think both Jamb and the Prof had an unconscious bias where they attributed any deviation in scores to Malpractice/special centres rather than doing a further deep dive into what could have been responsible.
Ibime(m): 1:36pm On May 15
Theflint1:
The collation was done with the errors and they were already releasing data off what they chose to collate, that was why the minister of education defended the failure rate by saying it was measures to curb cheating that was working.

JAMB at no point moved like a body that was trying to remedy the situation in secret, they were ready to move on despite the effect of the glitch on results. It was people that called them out on social media and insisted on an external audit that made them do the right thing.

That means they thought they could get away with STEP 1 below, and having failed to get away with it is classified as an EXTERNAL FAILURE for which heads must roll

Ibeme:


Crisis Management 101 at Exec level:

1st step - Can we get away with it

NO - move to 2nd step

raumdeuter: 1:36pm On May 15
I think the ideal thing is to reschedule the entire exam for everyone in the country minimum 1 month from now

At whatever financial cost it will be
raumdeuter: 1:38pm On May 15
Management 401

Ellexy: 1:40pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


Started what oh?

Person ask me for evidence of Sowore criticizing Tinubu I posted now amala begin turn et na me start
But that wasn't Sowore criticizing Tinubu. Talk another thing.
raumdeuter: 1:43pm On May 15
Ellexy:
But that wasn't Sowore criticizing Tinubu. Talk another thing.


You asked for receipts of Sowore attacks on Tinubu

Ellexy:
I think some some receipts of Sahara attacking Tinubu during those times would be appreciated.


So what was the article about? Was it to praise Tinubu?
Theflint1(m): 1:43pm On May 15
Ibime:


That means they thought they could get away with STEP 1 below, and having failed to get away with it is classified as an EXTERNAL FAILURE for which heads must roll



Oga nobody has such high expectations from JAMB. You can't be using your experience in a proper company in the private sector to compare with JAMB. If you fvck up, you lose your job. In Nigeria if you fvck up, and are kind enough to it to your errors, praises would be heaped on you.

Standards are generally relaxed in the civil sector globally, not to mention in a Nigerian parastatal like JAMB...that they fvck up is normal and expected. All they had to do was be honest on what happened, ask the kids affected to resit, and it'd be just another Sunday.

That they saw the situation with the kids result, knew we expected little of them and were fine with them fvcking up yet went ahead to cover up the situation is criminally negligent, and borders on malice.

Quit comparing Apples and Oranges, despite the extent of their failure and malice now made public, if heads don't roll nothing would happen, this is who we are.

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Segedinho(m): 1:44pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


Fall out of 2023 elections. It was Hausa Fulani collecting pre 2023 and they had no twitter presence to counter, Now its Yoruba but they have the online presence to counter

I have never seen the kinda beef I see daily on my timeline


Like,you just have to think those sect of people would definitely take it down to reality…

I put myself into the yardstick and YES I would take it personal as a form of protection cos it is scarier what the perpetuator would do in real life
iamoyindamola(m): 1:45pm On May 15
Ellexy:
But that wasn't Sowore criticizing Tinubu. Talk another thing.
grin grin
Theflint1(m): 1:46pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


Fall out of 2023 elections. It was Hausa Fulani collecting pre 2023 and they had no twitter presence to counter, Now its Yoruba but they have the online presence to counter
Was it the fallout of 2023 elections that made you say Jonathan was the founder of BokoHaram? grin

APC has always been toxic, they only met their match in Obidients, na who no sabi as e don dey go since you go dey Bobo say na 2023 e start.
iamoyindamola(m): 1:46pm On May 15
raumdeuter:
I think the ideal thing is to reschedule the entire exam for everyone in the country minimum 1 month from now

At whatever financial cost it will be
Who will write for the girl that killed herself or those involved in accidents during the exercise
iamoyindamola(m): 1:47pm On May 15
Theflint1:
Was it the fallout of 2023 elections that made you say Jonathan was the founder of BokoHaram? grin
You guys are just rushing him left and right
Theflint1(m): 1:49pm On May 15
iamoyindamola:

You guys are just rushing him left and right
If anybody wan dey form victim e no suppose by the much respected Raumdeuter, a battle-hardened warrior in the streets of Nairaland, proper 5-star general o, with stripes earned in the thick of battle, and not peace time cheesy

Maybe na men in their old age advocating for peace e dey do sha cheesy
OasisX: 1:49pm On May 15
chrisooblog:
Should have resigned along with the Head of IT and other people responsible for this mess.


..........great! Then what?!
Theflint1(m): 1:51pm On May 15
OasisX:


..........great! Then what?!
Whatever it is that happens when you catch a thieving employee, they get replaced.

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raumdeuter: 1:52pm On May 15
Theflint1:
Was it the fallout of 2023 elections that made you say Jonathan was the founder of BokoHaram? grin

APC has always been toxic, they only met their match in Obidients, na who no sabi as e don dey go since you go dey Bobo say na 2023 e start.

I didnt say that, The NSA said it that PDP founded BokoHaram. How has APC always been toxic and PDP hasnt

PDP that hasn't released the results of an election held 18yrs ago or the PDP that declared election Do or Die
raumdeuter: 1:53pm On May 15
iamoyindamola:

Who will write for the girl that killed herself or those involved in accidents during the exercise

You can only fix what you can

Will the resignation of Oloyede or even the sentencing him to death bring back the girl or reverse the accidents?
Theflint1(m): 1:53pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


I didnt say that, The NSA said it that PDP founded BokoHaram. How has APC always been toxic and PDP hasnt

PDP that hasn't released the results of an election held 18yrs ago or the PDP that declared election Do or Die
We all know you to be a battle-hardened warrior sir, it's unbecoming that you are today now at the forefront of peace lovers.
iamoyindamola(m): 1:54pm On May 15
Theflint1:
Whatever it is that happens when you catch a thieving employee, they get replaced.
No they cry and get pity so the bad act can continue
Fowl yansh open because this is the most talked about jamb, there were situations the result you print in the morning is different from the one you will print in the evening
Let’s give him a pat on the back to continue the good work

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raumdeuter: 1:55pm On May 15
Theflint1:
If anybody wan dey form victim e no suppose by the much respected Raumdeuter, a battle-hardened warrior in the streets of Nairaland, proper 5-star general o, with stripes earned in the thick of battle, and not peace time cheesy

Maybe na men in their old age advocating for peace e dey do sha cheesy

Me advocate for peace? I am always for given what you receive in equal measure shaken down

Why will I tell anyone to stop violence when I can return it

When I see those youngings who have taken up the mantle I smile. What I saw 15yrs ago, you are seeing it now

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raumdeuter: 1:56pm On May 15
Theflint1:
We all know you to be a battle-hardened warrior sir, it's unbecoming that you are today now at the forefront of peace lovers.

Peace will only come through strength not being weak. On these streets, No one will pity you and give you peace they will only give peace when they know you can punch back and possibly harder

Especially when you know there is Mutually Assured Destruction

The Northerners that couldnt reply aura for aura on twitter, did people pity them and stop?
iamoyindamola(m): 1:56pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


You can only fix what you can

Will the resignation of Oloyede or even the sentencing him to death bring back the girl or reverse the accidents?
No but it will show sign of seriousness and progress, people will sit up and take their jobs seriously

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raumdeuter: 1:56pm On May 15
iamoyindamola:

No but it will show sign of seriousness and progress, people will sit up and take their jobs seriously

So rewriting for everyone will not show signs of seriousness and progress?
MorataFC: 1:58pm On May 15
In this forum, I’ve come to see two distinct sets of people. The first are those who seem to have never made a mistake in their lives, at least in their own eyes. They are quick to criticize everything, rarely acknowledging any good in others.
The second set are those who have truly experienced life, with all its ups and downs. Their judgments are shaped by what they have experienced in life, understanding, and a willingness to give others the benefit of the doubt.

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iamoyindamola(m): 1:58pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


So rewriting for everyone will not show signs of seriousness and progress?
Can you get the same score if you are to write same exam with different questions
Yes or No
Theflint1(m): 2:00pm On May 15
raumdeuter:


Me advocate for peace? I am always for given what you receive in equal measure shaken down

Why will I tell anyone to stop violence when I can return it

When I see those youngings who have taken up the mantle I smile. What I saw 15yrs ago, you are seeing it now
It hasn't been looking that way of late sha... lipsrsealed
raumdeuter: 2:00pm On May 15
iamoyindamola:

Can you get the same score if you are to write same exam with different questions
Yes or No

Its better for everyone to rewrite, Anyone now can claim his results was also wrong. The fair thing is for a level playing ground for all candidates and everyone rewrites

How do we know JAMB batch B will be same standard as JAMB batch A. They might be stricter or laxer
raumdeuter: 2:00pm On May 15
Theflint1:
It hasn't been looking that way of late sha... lipsrsealed

When I see young ones taking the battle, I have to step back and sip my burukutu cos they are doing well
Theflint1(m): 2:01pm On May 15
iamoyindamola:

No they cry and get pity so the bad act can continue
Fowl yansh open because this is the most talked about jamb, there were situations the result you print in the morning is different from the one you will print in the evening
Let’s give him a pat on the back to continue the good work
Na so and by the time the people they're sentimental to are not in power, they'd return back to being good governance advocates, and lovers of standards.
OasisX: 2:04pm On May 15
Theflint1:
Whatever it is that happens when you catch a thieving employee, they get replaced.

grin

......alright. He is gonna resign so JAMB can be great again.

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