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Did your ancestors speak English? Did they drive cars, use phones, wear kind of clothes you wear? Did they go to schools?
Most things you use came from your colonial masters

A sinner is dead in sin and hence need life from Christ.

That is why I said you have a false security.

MaxInDHouse:

Oneness is what Jesus prayed {John 17:22} for so when there is no oneness it means those people aren't practicing true Christianity!

even the apostles had disagreement but that does not mean they are not one. Again, all true Christians have one belief in the things that matters most in the Christian faith. Having minor disagreements doesn't mean lack of unity.

Defending the faith before a believer or unbeliever?
If you've seen what Jesus said but you are not in agreement the scriptures said there is no need to continue arguing! Philippians 2:14; 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

Of course defending faith is before an unbeliever.

Born of God is not born again!


You are misconstruing the whole thing.
Born again Christians will inherit heaven {Matthew 5:3} while all other believers will inherit the earth! Matthew 5:5

No such thing in the Bible. Being born again is for all Christians not a select few. If you are not born again you won't see the kingdom of God meaning you would not be in God's kingdom in other words your portion is in the lake of fire.

MaxInDHouse:

Disagreement that makes worshipers to discriminate among themselves shey? 1Corinthans 1:10-14
Ọmọ that's confirmed disarray if you are deceiving yourself i'm not!

even in the early church where Paul and Peter were minster people discriminated to the extent some claimed to be followers of Peter, some same they are of Apollos others say they belong to Paul, does that mean the early Christians were not true worshiper? That your one line of thought without disagreement is alien to the body of christ.

Well you can only prove it wrong by the demonstration of adherents that's what faith means {Hebrew 11:1} not just arguments so present the works of your faith! James 2:18-26

The scripture said be prepared to defend your faith. If you claim to be teaching the truth from the Bible you should not be running away from scrutiny rather you should be happy about it.

That's for Jews whom he came to call as his corulers not the nations.

Jesus anyone who is not born of God can't see the kingdom of God he did not say its for the jews only.

Different context: born of God differs from born again!

Nah, they are the same.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Peter is referring to his audience as "born again". You will agree with me that Peter is not writing to spirits but to men who were born again hence to be born again doesn't mean you literally become spirit, it is the same as being born of God.

Omoawoke:


You have been eliminated from this debate….
Your response shows you are not mentally equipped to engage an intelligent debate… I feel so sorry for you, you are mentally inadequate.
I won’t respond to you anymore ! Bye!

There was no debate to start with. If you were intelligent you would have known A.i only give you what people put on net.

MaxInDHouse:

So called it disagreement not wrong interpretation it simply means there is a disagreement between my beliefs and yours!

Disagreements only minor issues, anyone who disagree on major issue is obviously not part of the body of christ.

Apart from God all spirit beings in heaven are God's sons (angels) so Jesus coming from heaven means he is one of God's sons an angel!

That is a wrong conclusion because Jesus is God not an angel.

They are people chosen from different countries throughout the world and Jesus said they will become angels when they get to heaven! Luke 20:34-36
Being born again simply means those chosen to rule with Christ not all Christians. Millions of us aren't going to heaven earth is our home and this is where we are designed to live forever!

Jesus said anyone not born again will not see the kingdom of God.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


According to the Bible anyone who believe in Christ is born of God not a select few.

1 John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

You have stylishly dodge the part of my quote where I showed you Jesus is a man not an angel.
And no humans won't become angels because Jesus is not angel and the world to come is not subject to Angels but to humans.

MaxInDHouse:

That's what different religions are saying before they now amount to thousands in number yet claiming denominations of the same religion.
So if Kumuyi agree with Adeboye, if Oyedepo agree with Olukoya if Mouka agree with Oyakilome there won't be different religions in the name of denominations each is saying the same thing you just said:
"They wrongly interpret the Bible"

There must surely be disagreements what matters is if the scripture is properly taught.

I have answered but you never followed!
Jesus WAS an angel in heaven before his earthly mission {John 8:23} and after his ascension he returned to the spirit realms as an angel. His subjects are humans on earth as he is going to rule as king from heaven. John 18:36

Jesus never said he was an angel in heaven in John 8:23. Can you show it explicitly?

But he is taking 144,000 humans there to serve as his corulers {Revelations 14:1 compare to John 14:1-3} these ones will become BORN AGAIN {John 3:3-5} meaning after their earthly course they will also become angels like him in heaven! Luke 20:34-36
Paul referred to Jesus as man because that is what Jesus became here when he was born by a woman! Matthew 20:28

The 144. 000 were jews and no mention of them becoming angels. Being born again is the same as salvation, all true Christians are born again and it does not mean they become angels.
Luke 20:35 said those that would inherit the world to come would not marry

They will be equal to the angels of God.

Luke 20:35 But they which shall be ed worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

However they will not be angels.
Hebrews 2:5 For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
The world to come is not subject to Angels bit to men.

If Jesus is no longer a man why will Paul still be referring to him as "the man christ Jesus"

If Jesus is no longer a man that means Jesus could not be a priest neither can he referred to humans as brothers?

Paul is making a statement of the present.
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

There is one God and one mediator between God and men and who is this mediator? Answer is a man not an angel. Let's say I was an American however I renounced my American nationality would you still be calling me an American?
If Jesus has stopped being a man that means Paul would be referring to another Jesus.

You see that Jehovah witness organization are preaching another Jesus.
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

MaxInDHouse:

I know you don't see JWs as teachers of God's word but i will share my beliefs so you can know what all JWs have in mind.

They wrongly interpret the Bible that is why.

Jesus promised that God's Holy Spirit will be used to anoint some of his disciples so they will become BORN AGAIN after their water baptism {John 3:3-5} that's what happened at Pentecost 33 c.e after Jesus' ascension to heaven.
So those BORN AGAIN Christians are the brothers of Christ that we must IDENTIFY for our salvation that's why Paul wrote in his letter to Jewish Christians:

"Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over you as those who will render an , so that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to you." Hebrews 13:17

The highlighted in blue simply means whoever refuses to obey them will not have Christ's approval! Matthew 25:40, 45,46

Jesus told them that he is taking them to heaven where they will no longer live as humans but as angels {Luke 20:34-36} and Paul seconded Jesus' word at 1Thessalonians 4:16-17 so while they are humans like you and i they've been chosen as BORN AGAIN to become angels in the future.

That's why Jesus could call them his brothers!

You really didn't answer my question I don't know if you realize that. According to scripture Jesus referred to humans as his brethren, if Jesus is not a human how come he called them his brothers?
By the way, if Jesus was an angel why did Paul call Jesus a man?
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:


Do you know CHRIST'S BROTHERS? Matthew 25:40

If you know them they will introduce you to Christ their brother otherwise Christ has no business with you! Matthew 25:45-46

In what way are they christ brothers? You guys believe that Jesus is angel? How then do you believe humans are brothers to an angel?
Don't get me wrong, I believe Jesus called humans his brethren and that is because Jesus has same humanity with them.

MaxInDHouse:


If you mean God's Kingdom in Paradise i'm 100% certain that i will be there.

Why am i so confident?

Jesus is the WAY {John 14:6} as promised in God's word that there will be a way of holiness {Isaiah 35:8} so all i need to do is IDENTIFY Christ's anointed brothers {Matthew 25:40} these people has been approved as corulers with Christ in the kingdom {Luke 12:32} for their hard work of assembling all peace lovers throughout the earth {Luke 10:6} to form one big and global family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
So as long as i remain OBEDIENT to them as i would have if Christ is here {Hebrew 13:7, 17} there is 100% guarantee that i will be in Paradise when they are ushering in their subjects! Luke 16:9

Max, you have a false security. You must totally put your trust in Jesus christ and his work on the cross not in Jehovah witness organization nor your fine works nor in any group.
In other to put your faith in christ you have to know who he is and unfortunately you don't know who he is.

You are wrong atheists are not the most evil people. There are atheists that are very moral. Many people who believe there is God are very wicked and evil.

Imf is making money improverishing nations on the pretense of goodwill and development.

Omoawoke:


Prove what it said wrong!

That’s the purpose of this thread

Is Noah’s ark true?
Did Tower of Babel happen?

Your brothers have littered the thread and haven’t been able to say anything reasonable other than insults, and derailing the topic and accusing AI of not knowing what it’s saying

prove what wrong? What proofs did your ai give for me to prove wrong?

Hahaha, Op is a kid. AI that only gathers info from different sources and presents it as its own.
It is your type that believes superman and bat man are real people in a place called Gotham city.

DaddyCoool:
1. How can they know eating the fruit was bad if they didn't know bad from good

they knew that the eating of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil (K.G.E) was bad because God told them,in order words, the fruit of the tree gave them an inherit ability to know good and evil.

2. Why didn't they eat the tree of life all that time - and they were NOT forbidden from it. It said clearly they were banished so they won't eat it (NOT so they won't continue eating it)

They had not eaten from the tree of life.

3. Why was the Serpent created wise and tricky but not them, and then allowed access to them, knowing he can easily deceive them.

The Serpent was created wise and tricky subtle for some other purpose. People sharp knives knowing it could be used to kill but the purpose is different. Knowledge, abilities, things in general can be used for good or evil depending on the intention of the . A doctor can use the his instrument to operate on a patient in order to save his life but he can also use it to kill him. Subtlety is also an attribute of wisdom.

Proverbs 1:4 To give subtilty to the simple, to the young man knowledge and discretion.

4. Eve, who was the one deceived, was not yet created when God gave Adam the instruction

However the instruction was ed down to her.

5. Omniscient God already knew they'd eat the fruit even before they were created

. God gave man free will, God does not use his Omniscient to override man's will unjustly.

6. Life also became difficult for animals even though they didn't eat any fruit

man was the head as far as the earth is concerned so through man the physical creation fell and through man they will be redeemed.

7. The Serpent's punishment was crawling on the ground, but that's what Serpents do, that's just their nature, and they do it effortlessly, and they're not the only ones who crawl.

Add yours

God is the creator of nature, the curse actually might have altered the Serpent's nature but above that a judgement upon Satan who was the Serpent. What you call nature today has already being cursed.

**Added:

8. What was Adam supposed to do, his wife now knew he was a slowpoke who did not even know he was naked. If he didn't eat the fruit, if you were his wife, would you stay married to a slowpoke with no self-awareness?🤣

same feminist enlightenment nonsense which is noting but gnosticsm. Calling disobedience to God self awareness just shows plain demonic. You seem to have embraced this new age satanic enlightenment. (Disgusting).
Both of them were naked but were not aware both became aware of their unclothedness after eating the forbidden fruit which was a sign of their spiritual death.

Interesting15:
Wisdom for Destiny Daily Devotional *(29th March 2025)*

By Sunday Akanni

TOPIC: It Takes Hard Labour To Excavate Sound Doctrine From The Bible

Scripture:

I Timothy 5:17 - Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine.

*Message*

Hard efforts and labour are required to know sound doctrine from the Bible. If you want to be accurate with God, if you want to be a sound and balanced believer, you must know doctrine.

This is beyond reading the bible. It is on another level. It involves sitting with the Bible and gathering truths from Genesis to Revelations, under specific categories. For instance, you want to study love so as to know the biblical doctrine for the subject of love. You start from Genesis and start highlighting where love was talked upon. Why was it there? Compare with other parts that talked about same, etc.

Doctrine summarizes the truths of the Bible—synthesizing and condensing its teaching. For example, the doctrine of the atonement pulls together many biblical ages that deal with God’s forgiveness of sin—from the Old Testament animal sacrifices all the way to the death of Christ on the cross, bearing our sins and suffering God’s wrath in our place.

Since it is based on the Scriptures, doctrine bears the weighty responsibility of rightly reflecting the words God breathed out through the biblical writers who were “carried along” by his Spirit (2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 1:21).

Today, the average Believer is ignorant of a lot of things that pertain to our faith and true spirituality and the features of the kingdom because we don't labor in doctrine.

If you want to grow in the word of God, then you must labour in doctrine.

*Prayer*

I give priority to sound doctrine, and I'm saved from falling into the error of this age.

*Further Reading*

Luke 24:27 NKJV
[27] And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

correct, especially in this hour of rejecting doctrine in the name of following spirit or experience.
The scripture revealed that in the last days some would not listen to sound doctrine.

Sound doctrine is gotten through labour both in prayer and study of scripture.

delkuf:
I would like to ask to ask, after the death of the Lord Jesus when he resurrected, he told Mary mardalene in John 20:17
"Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to your brethren, snd say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God".
Jesus told Mary that he ascend to his Father and our Father, my God and your God. My question now is, WHEN THE LORD JESUS ASCENDED DID HE DECEND TO EARTH AGAIN. Did he came back to earth

maxishouse is correct touch me mean don't cling to me. Jesus does not want anyone to be emotionally attached to his physical presence because his stay on earth would be temporary, Check the Greek word that was used there.
It is only after Jesus return when he recive the church and present them to his Father as his bride would he physically remain with the church forever then we cling to him.

Can a Christian work away from his salvation?
Salvation is not what you stumbled into and later can just decide to walk away anytime.
If you can just decide to work away from salvation you should be concerned if you were saved in the first place.

What about free will?
Eternal salvation doesn't take away free will except you want to say that even in heaven after salvation there is a possibility of a future fall because of free will.


Actually even "the will" is among what God redeems.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

God works in the believer both to "will" and to "do".

Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

In the book of Ezekiel, the Lord promised his people a new hear and a new spirit in the future this is opposed to the stony heart this is only possible through the regenerative work of the holy spirit which is through faith in Jesus.

gard9ner:
Some believe that once saved, always saved, while others argue that a believer can fall away. Hebrews 6:4-6 warns about those who “were once enlightened” but later fall away. Yet, John 10:28 says no one can snatch believers from Christ’s hand. So, is salvation permanent, or can it be lost through sin and unbelief?

The Bible also speaks of enduring in faith until the end (Matthew 24:13) and warns against backsliding (2 Peter 2:20-22). Some say these verses refer to those who were never truly saved, while others argue they prove a believer can turn away and forfeit salvation. If salvation is eternal, why do scriptures warn about falling away? But if it can be lost, does that mean salvation depends on human effort? What do you think?

1 John said anyone born of God sinneth not simply because the seed of God is in him. Meaning a saved person cannot continue living a life of sin and lose his salvation because of it.
Hebrews 6:4-6 is about someone who continue in unbelief even after receiving enlightenment.
Mathew 24:13 Jesus described those who endure to the end are those who will be saved. Guess what, 1 John identifies the overcomer as those born of God. Anyone who is born of God will not live in sin and is already an overcomer hence will endure to the end.
What of 1 Peter 2vv 20 warning against backsliding?
Again this is actually a warning a gains false prophets and false believers.

2 Peter 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.

2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Note they recieve the holy commandment but turned away
They know the way of righteousness but the next verse finally proved they weren't saved.

Note a washed sow still remains a sow, there is no change.
Compare that with someone who is born again, who has undergone a real spiritual change from the carnal nature into a new nature (If any man be in christ he is a new creature).
However in 2 Peter 2, the dog remains the dog and the sow remains the sow even after enlightenment meaning this individual(s) were never saved.

helinues:
Abi

The southern Kaduna that some people want to be using as reference points, just like Benue, the attacks have been reprisal attack. We only read about when Fulani attacks, but we hardly read when the Fulani are at the receiving end

Abdul! Smh so the killing of farmers in ondo was reprisal attack, killing of farmers all around the country is reprisal attack? defending terrorists, you are a boko haram!/ iswap sympathizer at heart just deceiving the gullible.

ruffhandu:


I doubt if you did. Your question were preconceived on first perusal of my post. See below also as you compare the facts on the desk of the congressman.

"Today, religious violence in Nigeria is dominated by the Boko Haram insurgency, which aims to establish an Islamic state in Nigeria. Since the turn of the 21st century, 62,000 Nigerian Christians have been killed by the terrorist group Boko Haram, Fulani herdsmen and other groups."

If you are in the theater, you will come to with these facts.

Actually freemasonry is an enlightenment cult and worship the goddess of enlightenment.

Truthseeker10:
StillDtruth claims that God Almighty calls Jesus God but Jesus is not the Almighty God in Hebrews 1:8. He claims that The angels worship Jesus who is not the Almighty God. Is he correct?

tctrills
StillDtruth
Dtruthspeaker
Emusan
Immaculatesense
Janosky
MaxInDHouse
Steep
Aemmyjah
doffman
cornelboy
Westerhoffe
Everyday247
gohf
Kobojunkie
Ken4Christ
Gabrielshow24

Your contribution to his claims are welcome.

what is the difference between Almighty God and God?
The bible says there is only one God not one Almighty God and another smaller god.

Economy is going down the drain

ANCESTORIAL8:


I'd really like if you can take sometime to elaborate further Sir.

Just two lines isn't doing a lot of justice to the topic don't you think ? 🤔

Actually we are not God/gods. The idea of a creature become god, came from lucifer who is the devil, he was so proud because of his beauty, intelligence and smartness that he thought he could make himself equal with God but he was defeated and cast out and he became the devil.
He sold same lie to eve and made her disobeyed God which in turn gave Adam to eat and disobey God. The result was they also fell like lucifer and along with the whole human race. He is selling such illusion of becoming God to people today hence making them to believe and live in this delusion.

A cat trying to be like a bird is only deceiving himself. God is God and man is man.
Basically all ancient mysticism and religion has this same philosophy of man becoming gods/God many idols are named after people who did exploit in their days, ancestors are revered as deities, the teachings of ascended masters, even evolution of humans to become a greater race etc all these are from the luciferian teaching.

Nnamdipapa:


What you call "free will" is actually an ultimatum: Accept me or burn forever.
The same types of bogus free will that exist when you decide to hand over your cash to a robber who has a gun pointed at your head.

By your logic, the government threaten you to obey the law because if you don't you are going to jail.
The schools threaten student to go to school because if they don't they won't be given certificate, parents threaten their children to obey them because if they don't then there will be repercussions. You leave by threat if you don't do them there would be one repercussion or the other. In fact you threatened your wife to marry you else she wouldn't be qith you in your house.

ANCESTORIAL8:


Is that how you learn new things, by having a preconceived notion about something before knowing anything about it ?

I understand the intense indoctrination in our society is quite remarkable actually, but also believe we can spare a few brain cells to think for ourselves.

Kindly walk me through your learning process when you're not LUCIFERIAN this and that.

you are blind, what you call new is not new at all, it is very ancient.

Gabrielshow24:

Or better question, where was Jehovah himself?

After all he is not transcendental👀...

He needs the universe to exist🙃.
A localized God🧐

They keep contradicting themselves.

Truthseeker10:

Is being a Jehovah’s Witness or not the topic here? Are you planning to attack a denomination instead of facing the issue on ground?

answer the question, first

This is gnosticism a luciferian belief.

What are the contradictions? cc tctrills

Nnamdipapa:
My people, let us discuss this scenario.

Let's assume your just got married and you have the power to see the future, now, looking into the future, you discovered that your wife will get pregnant and give birth to the biggest armed robber in Nigeria who will end up killing thousands of people, will you still go ahead and have that child assuming you have the power to prevent the pregnancy of that particular child?

I need your honest answer to this question.

Why do car manufacturers make cars even when they know that people will get accidents with it and die?