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@oiseworld and Goshen360, My first link is regrettably unclear especially towards the end. I am not disputing your position; Salvation is by Jesus Christ ONLY and their is NO favoritism- That is not what i am disputing. Arab christians(Palestinians, Iraqis, Lebanese...) are spiritual jews therefore are God's children- are we clear on that? My point is: God has not abandoned the biological jews. They are still under God's protection and His ultimate plan is to restore them in Christ. I am going to address frosbel's damning accusation against the jews later in the evening.

To clarify my position:
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Firstly, notice that the nation of Israel is still "beloved" by God today for their fathers' sakes [Replacement theologians need to read their Bible and believe it!]. God has not "cast away His people" Israel, for the gifts and calling of God (to the Jews) are without repentance (Romans 11:1, 28,29). That call and those gifts, divinely granted to Abraham and his descendants, are first recorded in Genesis 12:1-3. They were to be a "kingdom of priests, a holy nation" (Exodus 19:5-6), to bring His salvation to the world. So God gave to them a land to be the centre from which to fulfill this destiny (Genesis 13:14-18).

Further, that God intends to save the Jews in the end-time and to use them in a very definite way, before Christ returns, is clear from Romans 11:12 (Amplified): "Now if their stumbling has so enriched the world, and if (Israel's) failure means such riches for the Gentiles, think what an enrichment and greater advantage will follow their full reinstatement."

http://theemmauswalk.tripod.com/endtimedestiny.html
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^ Thanks for that link; Just read and bookmarked it- very clear and straight to the point.

@frosbel, Our responsibility towards Isreal is to pray for the peace of Jerusalem not to the "international community" to villify Isreal. First, it was that ridiculous "Oneness" doctrine now its "Replacement Theology"...Brother, be careful how you tread.

BTW, Hal Lindsey never claimed to be a prophet; He's interpretation of the bible is sound and 'bulletproof' solid. The fact that he made a mistake in one of his predictions- which he itted and apologized for doesn't make him a false prophet.

For those interested in Hal Lindsey's take on "Replacement Theology" and the Jewish/Palestinian question, here is it:
PART I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tRQlwN8cbYI


PART II:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tRQlwN8cbYI

@ frosbel, "Replacement Theology" is an heresy. You will do well to study this:
http://www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/EphraimJudah.html

I am too tired to search Hal Lindsey's Video Archive for a better treatment on the subject.

I also think you have a shallow or no understanding concerning the Jewish struggle throughout the ages and the significance of their political travail as a prophetic marker for this last days....Be careful.

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plaetton: ^^^^



Perhaps so. definitions can spin one around. Ignore the semantics. I'm sure you still get my points.

In this context, I am using subjective to refer to intuitive feelings of right and wrong, and objective as collectively agree-upon norms of right and wrong.

Now that you know the difference; you might want to rephrase your statement to make simple things less stressful for us.

-edit- not that i agree that objective morality is a "collection of agreements".

@plaetton,
Is freedom morality? In this 'post-modern' times, i think the word 'freedom' has to be 'handled' with great care...just saying. I think you're confusing 'objective' for 'subjective' ('fluid' for objective and 'constant' for subject. Actually, its the inverse that is correct). Please give me more time to study your submission more carefully...I'll respond more appropriately at a latter time.

^ Do you mean morality is subjective but its objective from culture to culture?

@ Sir_Anony, I'd advice you to please take a break for now; You have done so well and i must confess I've been educated by your exchange. I no longer see a honest debate here but a 'war of attrition'. This guys are desperate to wear you out; The idea is to force you into a condition where the quality of your argument degrades over time due to fatigue. This is why they keep latching on you like tsetse flies on a lamb.

BTW, we've had a similar argument with 'logicboy' before...why the repeat?
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/960451/nigeria-morally-better-than-u.s

^ You're so right. Your first sentence captures perfectly, the 'moral of the story'.

^^ na by force?

How is this related to StuxNet even remotely... Its not been proven to attack hardware.

I received an sms 4 hours ago that they're killing from house to house ...when are we going to say enough! When are we coming out here in the south to massively protest against this unspeakable carnage...when. We need to do something much stronger than the subsidy protest.

Sun of god: This 'Panda' wasn't happy with his bill . . .

una no go kill pesin!

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
He was with God in the beginning.
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.
In him was life, and that life was the light of men.
The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
--John 1:1-5

^ you atheists never stop abusing the word 'fact'.

blogger1.0:

A very thrilling post you have up there.
But if you weren't lazy enuf to go through the whole thread, you would have read where a poster said the same above bolded to me.

I skip sometimes because of too many abusive post, especially when i don't have enough time on my hand. please accept my excuse

The fact that i am rational and think far and wide doesn't make me less of a happy man does it?

No it doesn't but consider this: 'thinking far and wide' without restraint could lead to mild depression which could, in turn, influence our thoughts negatively - we need to balance it out with comedy sometimes. My apology for the "you're actually living a miserable life" thingy. Like i said, No insult intended.
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God understands the human condition better than we do, and that includes boredom. So if He says in His Paradise- in Eternity, there is no dull moment ...you better believe it.

@ Deep Insight, You're welcome. I'll try to keep up but its hard this days because of my workload... and thanks for the compliment.

Billyonaire: The theories about God is controversial because God is not what many people think it is. Its why the atheist think there is no God. But God is rather more of energy frequency then a being. The purest level of existence. God is the positive parallel of the Universe while Satan is the negative parallel of the Universe..... Humans are a part of the universe and gets its signals from both energy frequencies via the cosmic mind. Soul Travel and Astral projection offer deeper insights to the cosmic planes and the scheme of things, most of which can not be understood by the brain which guides physical analogy and reasoning. Humans in physical form can not comprehend God ...you need to project into the realms of spirit to understand...

Essentially, your view is no different from that of an agnostic and strangely with an atheistic bent. The only difference is you're 'repackaging' the philosophy of Materialism by personifying it. In order word: You're using 'spirit' and 'deity' to personalize energy which is the essence of the material universe. Guy, you're just playing with words.

Equating God with E = MC² I think, is more blasphemous than saying God is a piece of firewood and more insulting than pagans bowing before a carved piece of wood.
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God is a Personal Being...We are created in His image and likeness.

blogger1.0:
Sometimes i just sit down and think about a world without end and i just feel so weak from within. I mean, time just keeps going nonstop, no end, you never get to see a cast which indicates that a movie has ended, it goes on and on and on. Oh God am feeling sick just typing this already.
Your thougts guys

No insult intended but i think if you're feeling sick about the thought of eternity it could be because you're actually living a miserable life and unfortunately, you're using your despondent condition to skew the idea of eternity. Step outside your bunk, look around you, their are others living a happy life - like a newly married couple who wish the bliss will continue forever.

Secondly, you're confusing eternity for the word 'forever' or 'everlasting'; This words are used interchangeably with eternity but they're technically far apart. Let me explain: 'Forever' and 'Everlasting' simply means[b] time[/b] without end. 'beginning', 'now', 'after', 'present','future', 'ending' are functions of time. But Eternity means a state of timelessness -a condition where time does not exist. Eternal life is God kind of life but men are creatures of time - we think and live in sequence so its impossible to imagine eternity... I can only offer a very poor allusion to it but i'll try anyway:

to catch a glimpes of Eternity (lets say you're 25) is like having a vision of an angel smile and wave at you for just a second, but when you turn around, you find yourself in a very advanced society, you walk up to a guy, only to be told you look like the dude he read in a book who got missing 1000 years ago. For you: it was only a second. no ageing- no change. For an observer: you're 1025 years old with many generations gone by.

When Moses asked God for His name, God responded: IAM WHO IAM (meaning: My name is Eternity - you're a creature of time, you can only move from the present to the future but for Me: time begins and ends in Me)

God lives in the realm Eternity...Timelesness. And with Him, their is fullness of JOY!

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And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has ed away."
--Revelation 21:3-4

Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?" God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
-- Exodus 3:14-15

Danka7777: IF THERE WERE GOD, WHITES AND BLACKS, AS WITH OTHER RACES WOULD HAVE BEEN EQUALS, IN EVERY MEASURE OF SUCCESS, WHETHER WITH RESPECT TO INVENTION, SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS AND MANY MORE QUOTIENTS.

We're all equal in the sight of God but the condition of our lives is dependent on the choices we make...good or bad, blessings or curses, spiritual life or spiritual death...etc

Arsheda: If he is a bachelor & probably still single, that is unattached, he has 100% right to visit the market & buy food items. Let me use myself as an example.

I do this a lot, weekends I go to the market & buy what I need in the house,cook for the week, and preserve in my freezer. So when I get back from my daily job all I do is dish out what I will eat and microwave,shikena!

So please and please not all men you see in the market are STINGY. THIS WILL BE FALLACY OF IRRELEVANT GROUND.

Just exactly what i do.

Where their is sugar, the ants gather. Where their is free wifi, the...

CyberG: Yes, they are but what kind of programming? If you are taking a programming course, a netbook will surely be enough, being that you need it just for the course and consider also if you will like to continue software development and move to advanced areas and budget.

A lot of people asking you to buy some high end gaming laptop may not have had an experience of what resources is really needed to do what, just get the biggest sledge hammer to kill the smallest ant (a programming course). This is obviously bad advice especially if you are on a tight budget. For a course, you will never have to worry about the kind of issues real life applications need to do, so you should get a tool that gets your job done. Just FYI, I have actual development experience on commercial software on Windows, Linux and Mac and actively dev on Mac and Linux projects every week. My work Mac and AMD laptop are high end machines and you will not need either for a university course, especially if you are on a budget.

For the last poster ^, I have used an HP Mini with 1 GB and and Intel Atom processor running Linux and it was decent, will surely work for dev work on a budget or not so large. Now, if you work on a project where you will have to kick off build on Mozilla Firefox, you will need much more than a netbook. Or, if you will like to kick off multiple compilations on several cores to make the build process faster, then you will also need a higher specs but definitely not for a university programming course.

Guy, you know what you're talking about- Best advice.

"Fyodor Dostoevsky predicted that at first art would imitate life, then life would imitate art, and finally, that life would draw the very reason for its existence from art."
― Ravi Zacharias, Can Man Live Without God (Dallas: Word Publishing, 1994) p. 73

“Paradoxically though it may seem, it is none the less true that life imitates art far more than art imitates life.”
― Oscar Wilde

"For as he thinks in his heart, so is he"
― Proverbs 23:7

"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth that which is evil"
― Luke 6:45

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If you agree that movie is an art; be careful which "art" you see...you're thinking about what you're seeing...you're becoming what you're thinking....my 5 kobo on this topic.

God made it.

Simply wow. Congrats once again.

At least this is from a credible source. The question is: is the SSS compromised or not?

I hope Mr "Fix it" stocked enough Aspirin in the house.

An expected victory. Congrat.

kaeto: Truth be told,other than drive the fulanis out there are other ways to make them irrelevant and hence dispensible. By this we can make them migrate northward voluntarily, 'cos i'm personally set at the edge at the sight of the troublesome fulanis pressing southwards as desertification sets siege in the northern parts of the country. If they(fulanis) are so keen on conquering the plateau, do this successfully, they will stop at nothing pressing down further to the East and ss as the west is a well captured territory by the fulanis,and they are ambivalently reluctant in this captivity.we must be a bit sentimental and selfish here,had we leaders who lead with pride and vision,to set up 'cattle ranches' in every LGA, produce tons of beef,milk and leather industrially, creating jobs and peace in the process. We could also selflessly develope modern graze fields in the far north,all it requires is dams, irrigation,bore holes and the spray hosts, and simultaneously bring desertification to a halt. But how can this come to mind, when the blind leadership of the pdp and acn have their hands tied to unproductive local tantrums,corruption and perpetual blindness. WOE to all blind politicians and thieves who prey on the lives of the defenceless and innocent and for a show make useless speeches and well wishes. Away with them, the killings are only a distraction from evil and daft reasoning by our leaders. I just got myself convinced that our leaders have disgraceful imbecillic traits. OUT!

^ You too make sense. +100
-edit- I think the bolded is the best thing to happen to this thread so far.

God bless you for sharing your experience. Your fight to overcome temptation is not exclusive - for I am also a soldier of Christ with many self-inflicted scars. I'll find time to pray for you...Please don't give up the good fight. You must always be dependent on the Holy Spirit at all times rather than attempting to overcome se.xual temptation by will-power alone.

Larry Brinkin, 22-year retiree from the San Francisco Human Rights Commission and veteran ga.y rights advocate from San Francisco, has been arrested for felony possession of child po.rnography. Following his arrest, Mr. Brinkin was released on bail after spending the night among friends in a San Francisco jail.

According to a search warrant served by San Francisco police, after seizing two laptops, a desktop computer, videos, a floppy disk, and flash drives from Brinkin's home, his computers were found to have "por.nographic images that show children as young as 1 and 2 or 3 years old being sodomized and performing oral se.x on adult men."

Allegedly, the human rights/ga.y rights advocate also had messages linked to his AOL that included attachments that depict "exploitive se.x acts" as well as links to a discussion group that approves of "sexual exploitation of young boys and girls."

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Brinkin was best known for "championing equal rights for gays and lesbians. He helped craft San Francisco's groundbreaking Equal Benefits Ordinance, which became a national model for workplace equality."

When Brinkin retired, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors was so grateful for the work he had done on behalf of human rights for gays that they approved a "resolution declaring the week of Feb. 1, 2010, 'Larry Brinkin Week' in San Francisco." According to the board, and despite his alleged penchant for pedophilia, after retirement, Larry's "dedication to advance the civil rights of all people ... never stopped."

Former supervisor Bevan Duffy, who authored the board's resolution for "Larry Brinkin Week," said he was shocked to learn of San Francisco ga.y icon's arrest. Duffy said, "I have ired and respected his work for the LGBT community. I respect and am confident that there will be due process."

Due process will ultimately determine whether or not the human rights advocate considered the sexual mistreatment of tots a right worth pursuing. In the meantime, regardless of the outcome, it's clear that both Larry Brinkin and the tiniest victims of his alleged crime have all been damaged by a liberal lie called moral relativism.

The children in the photographs notwithstanding, based on what was found on his computer, Brinkin is just as much the result of a philosophy which preaches that there is no set standard for right or wrong and that human decency is a é concept that hinges on personal conscience, not social mores or outdated religious criteria.

Brinkin thrived for almost a quarter of a century in a setting that promotes the false premise that moral behavior is subject to individual judgment. He was well-respected in a community that makes heroes of people whose primary goal is to undermine traditional values such as marriage, portray as out-of-date the belief that heterosexuality is normal, and endorse all manner of perverse behavior by putting it all under the umbrella of "human rights."

So in Mr. Brinkin's case, after making a name for himself advocating for the right to individual sexual expression, it could be that he had convinced himself that pedophilia also meets the necessary criteria. The North American Man Boy Love Association marched in San Francisco ga.y Pride Parades early in Brinkin's career.

Before retiring from the equitable workplace he had helped create and retreating to his e-mail and his NAMBLA-like discussion group, Larry Brinkin lived and gained fame in a world where the lines that define decency are oftentimes ambiguous. Brinkin attained star status in a city where people pride themselves on being their own moral judge and jury, where individuals are the subjective arbiters of their own behavior and the sole captains of carnal vessels that are encouraged to set sail in any direction they desire.

Then Brinkin, at 66 years old -- old enough to be someone's grandpa -- is caught with child po.rnography on his computer and participating in an online chat that approves of se.xually molesting innocent children. The question arises: who, then, in a secular culture determines the ethical norms? After Brinkin spent 22 years working to eradicate a line of moral demarcation, does someone or some system with different measures now get to draw a new line in the sand?

Moreover, don't the tenets of the "what's right for me might not be right for you"-and-vice-versa school of thought teach that no one has the authority to impose personal standards of morality on anyone else? Should that principle change just because it has been revealed that the person responsible for advancing the civil rights of San Francisco's LGBT community may also turn out to be a degenerate who approves of having oral se.x with toddlers?

If moral relativism is a valid argument, then Brinkin is innocent regardless of what he's done. And any man or woman with small children should accept the fact that if, in his mind, Mr. Brinkin believes it's acceptable to se.xually abuse a child, and the child being abused should happen to belong to a fellow moral relativist, then that morally relativistic parent is duty-bound to pardon Larry's amoral behavior.

However, if Larry Brinkin is found guilty, then so too are all the moral equivocators who have promoted a debauched philosophy whose lack of boundaries has led to the corruption of society and, more tragically, been part and parcel of the irreparable harm that has befallen the helpless and most innocent among us. As for a dupe like Larry Brinkin, if proven guilty of pedophilia, it's because he's just another deluded predator who believed the lie that all morality is relative. Then he acted upon that conviction and, by doing so, became another one of its victims.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/06/moral_relativism_and_the_plight_of_a_pedophile.html#ixzz1zP6FGM9M