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@mayoroflag, You have displayed civility and a better critical thinking skill than its proponents on this thread. I must confess I've been educated by your exchange. |
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big_sean: @SNCOQ3, Are you sure of the bolded?. big_sean: Check out the top of my first post on "Christian scientist and thinkers" on this thread. My objective is clear. big_sean: Please do; It will further buttress the point that not only Christians but Arab and Hindu theists were not against science but actually contributed to the development of science more than atheist would like to it. big_sean: Actually, you missed the objective of my earlier post so using it as a basis for your argument renders it useless. Besides, multiple belief systems with contrary views does not in any way negate the existence of God. It might also interest you to know that Atheism is faith based. A belief that science will one day provide the answers is an expression of faith. It is called SCIENTISM. big_sean: The truth of God's word as revealed to man is sufficient; Man's understanding of this truth is progressive. The idea of Christianity vs Science is nonsensical. Real science does not contradict the bible, "scientific conjectures" , wrong hypothesis and pseodo-scientists like Steven Dawkins who is a living contradiction does. big_sean: The bolded is so wrong. Please read my posts "Christian Scientist and thinkers" on this thread again. It tears your bolded statement to shreds. Besides, you just contradicted your earlier statement which itted implicitly, that theism is not an hindrance to development on the contrary, theist actually laid the foundation of its advancement. |
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Kay 17: Hi Kay 17, Sorry for the delay to respond to your question. I have a very busy life outside of NL. * Firstly, sin itself is not the imperfection in this context but that which renders a perfect being imperfect just like a perfect bowl of egusi soup could decay to an imperfect bowl of soup when exposed to germs. ( I objectified sin for the sake of clarity). * So did God create this sin? The answer is no. Sin is not an object but the breaking of God's law. The Law is a reflection of the character of God. * The beautiful gift of freewill from God created the possibility to sin. Or do you want to blame God for giving you the power to choose? You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, till iniquity was found in you(Lucifer). Ezekiel 28:15. Sin originated in the heart of Lucifer, as indicated by this age. But did God therefore "create sin" because He created Lucifer? God DID NOT create sin. But He did create his creatures with the freedom of choice. God could never be content with mere robots. Free will means the power to choose for or against something. Lucifer had the choice to remain loyal to God, or to rebel against Him. He was created with no taint of maliciousness. His rebellion was not the fault of God, but the result of his own free choice. |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 10) 313–1000 (4th–10th centuries) ----------------------------------------------- Hunayn ibn Ishaq (c.809–873) Assyrian Christian physician known for translations of Greek scientific works and as author of "Ten Treatises on Ophthalmology". He also wrote "How to Grasp Religion", which involved the apologetics for his faith. ----------------------------------------------- John Philoponus (c.490–c.570) He was a figure in the Monophysitism minority of Eastern Christianity. His criticism of Aristotelian physics was important to Medieval science. He also theorized about the nature of light and the stars. As a theologian he rejected the Council of Chalcedon and his major Christological work is Arbiter. ----------------------------------------------- Bede, the Venerable (c.672–735) Catholic monk, venerated as a saint and Doctor of the Church. He was an influence for early medieval knowledge of nature. He wrote two works on "Time and its Reckoning." This primarily concerned how to date Easter, but contained a new recognition of the "progress wave-like" nature of tides. ----------------------------------------------- Rabanus Maurus (c.780–856) Benedictine monk and teacher, he later became archbishop of Mainz and is venerated as blessed in the Catholic Church. He wrote a treatise on Computus and the encyclopedic work De universo. His teaching earned him the accolade of Praeceptor Germaniae, or "the teacher of ----------------------------------------------- Leo the Mathematician (c.790–a.869) Archbishop of Thessalonica, he later became the head of the Magnaura School of philosophy in Constantinople, where he taught Aristotelian logic. Leo also composed his own medical encyclopaedia. He has been called a "true Renaissance man" and "the cleverest man in Byzantium in the 9th century". ----------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science END...for now |
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all4naija: ^^^Thanks. Just one more. all4naija: ^^^Whats the excuse for the origin of atheism again? all4naija: ^^^ Whats the mark? |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 9) 1001–1200 (11th and 12th centuries) ------------------------------------------------------------ Pope Sylvester II (c.950–1003) Benedictine monk, scientist, teacher, and later Pope; he promoted such knowledge as mathematics and astronomy in Europe. As professor of the cathedral school at Rheims, he raised it to the height of prosperity. He also reintroduced the abacus and armillary sphere to Europe, which had been lost to the continent since the end of the Greco-Roman era. ------------------------------------------------------------ Hermann of Reichenau (1013–1054) Crippled by a paralytic disease from early childhood, he was a Benedictine monk who composed famous Marian antiphons and was beatified. As a scientist, he wrote on topics such as geometry, mathematics, and the astrolabe. ------------------------------------------------------------ Hugh of Saint Victor (c.1096–1141) Influential mystic and philosopher who embraced science as a tool for approaching God. He was master of the monastic school of Saint Victor. His work presents knowledge of reality as redemptive of fallen man; and technology as source of physical relief and able to help reunite man with divine wisdom. "Learn everything," he urged; "later you will see that nothing is superfluous. ------------------------------------------------------------ William of Conches (c.1090–a.1154) Pythagore-chartres.jpg Scholastic philosopher who sought to expand Christian humanism by studying secular works of the classics and fostering empirical science. He held an atomistic explanation of nature, and his hexameron is a notable example of the naturalism that came to characterize later medieval s of the six days of creation. He was a leading member of the cathedral school at Chartres. ------------------------------------------------------------ Hildegard of Bingen (1098–1179) Benedictine abbess, writer, composer, philosopher, mystic, visionary, polymath and 's first female physician. She conducted and published comprehensive studies of natural science and medicine. Hildegard was well known in her own century as "the female prophet" and is venerated as a Catholic saint. ------------------------------------------------------------ |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 8.) 1201–1400 (13th and 14th centuries) ------------------------------------------- Robert Grosseteste (c.1175–1253) Bishop of Lincoln, he was the central character of the English intellectual movement in the first half of the 13th century and is considered the founder of scientific thought in Oxford. He had a great interest in the natural world and wrote texts on the mathematical sciences of optics, astronomy and geometry. He affirmed that experiments should be used in order to a theory, testing its consequences. ------------------------------------------- Pope John XXI (c.1215–1277) He wrote the widely used medical text Thesaurus pauperum before becoming Pope. When he took office as pope in 1277, he immediately cracked down on heterodoxy including Averroes works and teachings on Aristotle. ------------------------------------------- Albertus Magnus (c.1193–1280) Patron saint of scientists in Catholicism who may have been the first to isolate arsenic. He wrote that: "Natural science does not consist in ratifying what others have said, but in seeking the causes of phenomena." Yet he rejected elements of Aristotelianism that conflicted with Catholicism and drew on his faith as well as Neo-Platonic ideas to "balance" "troubling" Aristotelian elements. ------------------------------------------- Roger Bacon (c.1214–1294) He was an English philosopher who emphasized empiricism and has been presented as one of the earliest advocates of the modern scientific method. He ed the Franciscan Order around 1240, where he was influenced by Grosseteste. Bacon was responsible for making the concept of "laws of nature" widespread, and contributed in such areas as mechanics, geography and, most of all, optics. It is said that he was imprisoned by the church for many years because of his scientific teachings, although this is disputed ------------------------------------------- Theodoric of Freiberg (c.1250–c.1310) Dominican who is believed to have given the first correct explanation for the rainbow in De iride et radialibus impressionibus or On the Rainbow. In theology he disagreed with Thomas Aquinas on metaphysical positions and tended towards a more Neoplatonic outlook than Aquinas. ------------------------------------------- Thomas Bradwardine (c.1290–1349) He was an English archbishop, often called "the Profound Doctor". He developed studies as one of the Oxford Calculators of Merton College, Oxford University. These studies would lead to important developments in mechanics. ------------------------------------------- William of Ockham (c.1285–c.1350) He was an English Franciscan friar and scholastic philosopher. He is a major figure of medieval thought and was at the center of the major intellectual and political controversies of his time. Commonly known for Occam's razor, the scientific/methodological principle that bears his name, he also produced significant works on logic, physics, and theology. ------------------------------------------- Jean Buridan (c.1300–c.1358. ) Kanonik.png He was a Catholic priest and one of the most influential philosophers of the later Middle Ages. He developed the theory of impetus, which was an important step toward the modern concept of inertia. ------------------------------------------- Nicole Oresme (c.1323–1382) Theologian and bishop of Lisieux, he was one of the early founders and popularizers of modern sciences. One of his many scientific contributions is the discovery of the curvature of light through atmospheric refraction. ------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 7) 1401–1600 (15th and 16th centuries) ---------------------------------------- Nicholas of Cusa (1401–1464) Catholic cardinal and theologian who made contributions to the field of mathematics by developing the concepts of the infinitesimal and of relative motion. His philosophical speculations also anticipated Copernicus’ heliocentric world-view. ---------------------------------------- Otto Brunfels (1488–1534) A theologian and botanist from Mainz, . His Catalogi virorum illustrium is considered to be the first book on the history of evangelical sects that had broken away from the Catholic Church. In botany his Herbarum vivae icones helped earn him acclaim as one of the "fathers of botany". ---------------------------------------- Nicolaus Copernicus (1473–1543) Catholic canon who introduced a heliocentric world view. In 1616, in connection with the Galileo affair, this work was forbidden by the Church "until corrected". Nine sentences representing heliocentricism as certain had to be either omitted or changed. This done, the reading of the book was allowed.[31] Only in 1835 the original uncensored version was dropped from the Index of Prohibited Books. ---------------------------------------- Michael Servetus (1511–1553) Nontrinitarian who was condemned and imprisoned by Catholics before being burned at the stake by Calvinists in Protestant-run Geneva. In science wrote on astronomy and his theological work "Christianismi Restitutio" contained the first European description of the function of pulmonary circulation. ---------------------------------------- Michael Stifel (c.1486–1567) Augustinian monk and mathematician who became an early er of Martin Luther. His Arithmetica integra (pictured) contained important innovations in mathematical notation and a table of integers and powers of 2 that some have considered to be an early version of a logarithmic table.[34][35] He also wrote on Biblical prophecies. ---------------------------------------- William Turner (c.1508–1568 .) He is sometimes called the "father of English botany" and was also an ornithologist. Religiously he was arrested for preaching in favor of the Reformation. He later became a Dean of Wells Cathedral, pictured, but was expelled for nonconformity. ---------------------------------------- Ignazio Danti (1536–1586) As bishop of Alatri he convoked a diocesan synod to deal with abuses. He was also a mathematician who wrote on Euclid, an astronomer, and a designer of mechanical devices. ---------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 6) 1601–1700 (17th century) ------------------------------------------- Bartholomaeus Pitiscus (1561–1613) He may have introduced the word trigonometry into English and French. He was also a Calvinist theologian who acted as court preacher at the town then called Breslau, hence the image of their town square. ------------------------------------------- John Napier (1550–1617) Scottish mathematician known for inventing logarithms, Napier's bones, and being the popularizer of the use of decimals. He also was a staunch Protestant who wrote on the Book of Revelation. ------------------------------------------- Johannes Kepler ![]() His model of the cosmos based on nesting Platonic solids was explicitly driven by religious ideas; his later and most famous scientific contribution, the Kepler's laws of planetary motion, was based on empirical data that he obtained from Tycho Brahe's meticulous astronomical observations, after Tycho died of mercury poisoning. He had wanted to be a theologian at one time and his Harmonice Mundi discusses Christ at points. ------------------------------------------- Galileo Galilei ![]() Scientist who had many problems with the Inquisition for defending heliocentrism in the convoluted period brought about by the Reformation and Counter-Reformation. In regard to Scripture, he took Augustine's position: not to take every age too literally, particularly when the scripture in question is a book of poetry and songs, not a book of instructions or history. ------------------------------------------- Laurentius Gothus (1565–1646) A professor of astronomy and Archbishop of Uppsala. He wrote on astronomy and theology. ------------------------------------------- Marin Mersenne (1588–1648. ) For four years he devoted himself to theology writing Quaestiones celeberrimae in Genesim (1623) and L'Impieté des déistes (1624). These were theological essays against atheism and deism. He is more ed for the work he did corresponding with mathematicians and concerning Mersenne primes. ------------------------------------------- René Descartes ![]() He was a key thinker of the Scientific Revolution. He is also honoured by having the Cartesian coordinate system used in plane geometry and algebra named after him. He did important work on invariants and geometry. His Meditations on First Philosophy partially concerns theology and he was devoted to reconciling his ideas with the dogmas of Catholic Faith to which he was loyal. ------------------------------------------- Pierre Gassendi (1592–1655) Catholic priest who tried to reconcile Atomism with Christianity. He also published the first work on the Transit of Mercury and corrected the geographical coordinates of the Mediterranean Sea. ------------------------------------------- Anton Maria of Rheita (1597–1660) Capuchin astronomer. He dedicated one of his astronomy books to Jesus Christ, a "theo-astronomy" work was dedicated to the Blessed Virgin Mary, and he wondered if beings on other planets were "cursed by original sin like humans are." ------------------------------------------- Blaise Pascal ![]() Jansenist thinker; well known for Pascal's law (physics), Pascal's theorem (math), and Pascal's Wager (theology) ------------------------------------------- Isaac Barrow (1630–1677) English divine, scientist, and mathematician. He wrote Expositions of the Creed, The Lord's Prayer, Decalogue, and Sacraments and Lectiones Opticae et Geometricae. ------------------------------------------- Juan Lobkowitz (1606–1682) Cistercian monk who did work on Combinatorics and published astronomy tables at age 10. He also did works of theology and sermons. ------------------------------------------- Nicolas Steno (1638–1686) Lutheran convert to Catholicism, his beatification in that faith occurred in 1987. As a scientist he is considered a pioneer in both anatomy and geology, but largely abandoned science after his religious conversion. ------------------------------------------- Seth Ward (1617–1689) Anglican Bishop of Salisbury and Savilian Chair of Astronomy from 1649–1661. He wrote Ismaelis Bullialdi astro-nomiae philolaicae fundamenta inquisitio brevis and Astronomia geometrica. He also had a theological/philosophical dispute with Thomas Hobbes and as a bishop was severe toward nonconformists. ------------------------------------------- Robert Boyle ![]() Scientist and theologian who argued that the study of science could improve glorification of God. ------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... 1 Like |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 5) 1701–1800 (18th century) -------------------------------------- Isaac Newton ![]() He is regarded as one of the greatest scientists and mathematicians in history. Newton's study of the Bible and of the early Church Fathers were among his greatest ions, though he consistently refused to swear his allegiance to the church. He wrote Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel and the Apocalypse of St. John. -------------------------------------- Gottfried Leibniz (1646–1716) Polymath who worked on determinants, a calculating machine, He was a Lutheran who worked with convert to Catholicism John Frederick, Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg in hopes of a reunification between Catholicism and Lutheranism. He also wrote Vindication of the Justice of God. -------------------------------------- John Wallis ![]() As a mathematician he wrote Arithmetica Infinitorumis, introduced the term Continued fraction, worked on cryptography, helped develop calculus, and is further known for the Wallis product. He also devised a system for teaching the non-speaking deaf. He was also a Calvinist inclined chaplain who was active in theological debate. -------------------------------------- Colin Maclaurin ![]() Proposed to explain Newton's differential calculus using infinite series instead of Newton's fluxions. A Divinity student, he had a Christian institute named for him. -------------------------------------- Stephen Hales (1677–1761) A Copley Medal winning scientist significant to the study of plant physiology. As an inventor designed a type of ventilation system, a means to distill sea-water, ways to preserve meat, etc. In religion he was an Anglican curate who worked with the Society for the Promotion of Christian Knowledge and for a group working to convert black slaves in the West Indies. -------------------------------------- Thomas Bayes (1701–1761) Presbyterian minister who wrote Divine Benevolence, or an Attempt to Prove That the Principal End of the Divine Providence and Government is the Happiness of His Creatures. He is better known for Bayes' theorem and was made a Fellow of the Royal Society in 1742. -------------------------------------- Firmin Abauzit (1679–1767) A physicist and theologian. He translated the New Testament into French and corrected an error in Newton's Principia. -------------------------------------- Emanuel Swedenborg (1688–1772) His writing is the basis of Swedenborgianism and several of his theological works contained some science hypotheses, most notably the Nebular hypothesis for the origin of the Solar System. -------------------------------------- Carolus Linnaeus (1707–1778) He is known as the "father of modern taxonomy" and also made contributions to ecology. Natural theology and the Bible were important to his Systema Naturae and Systema Vegetabilium. -------------------------------------- Leonhard Euler (1707–1783) A significant mathematician and physicist, see List of topics named after Leonhard Euler. He wrote Defense of the Divine Revelation against the Objections of the Freethinkers and is also commemorated by the Lutheran Church on their Calendar of Saints on May 24. -------------------------------------- Maria Gaetana Agnesi (1718–1799) Mathematician appointed to a position by Pope Benedict XIV. After her father died she devoted her life to religious studies, charity, and ultimately became a nun. -------------------------------------- 1 Like |
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manmustwac: Man created God in his own image to make sense of his surroundings.Which explains why the Hindu Gods look like the indian people who created him, The chinese gods look like chinese who created them. Plus theres over 10'000 gods, Besides anybody who can see REALITY can see theres no god YAHWEH - The One True God is not the god of your imagination but the God of Revelation. The God that can fit into your imagination is a[i] god[/i]; When materialized - an idol. Another name the Jews call YAHWEH is the non-existent God- The God who does not exist in the imagination of man( the world is perceived and interpreted with the mind). YAHWEH can only REVEAL himself to us to be known. And He must come down to our level so that we can understand Him. Jesus Christ is YAHWEH revealed to us. His other name is Emmanuel, meaning "God is with us". Some things in life can never be taken, they can only be given. manmustwac: Man created God in his own image to make sense of his surroundings.Which explains why the Hindu Gods look like the indian people who created him, The chinese gods look like chinese who created them. Plus theres over 10'000 gods, Besides anybody who can see REALITY can see theres no god Have you 'seen' REALITY before? by the way, could you first define reality? |
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Kay 17: You don't seem to have respect for contextual reasoning. When you do, i'll respond to your question. I already know where you're heading but its important you fix those word in their proper sequence because one thing led to another. I am not here to indulge you. |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 4) 1801–1900 (19th century) ------------------------------------- Joseph Priestley (1733–1804) Nontrinitarianism clergyman who wrote the controversial work History of the Corruptions of Christianity. He is credited with discovering oxygen, although Carl Wilhelm Scheele did so a year earlier. ------------------------------------- Isaac Milner (1750–1820) Lucasian Professor of Mathematics known for work on an important process to fabricate Nitrous acid. He was also an evangelical Anglican who co-wrote Ecclesiastical History of the Church of Christ with his brother and played a role in the religious awakening of William Wilberforce. ------------------------------------- Samuel Vince (1749–1821) Cambridge astronomer and clergyman. He wrote Observations on the Theory of the Motion and Resistance of Fluids and The credibility of Christianity vindicated, in answer to Mr. Hume’s objections. He won the Copley Medal in 1780, before the period dealt with here ended. ------------------------------------- Olinthus Gregory (1774–1841) Olinthus Gregory.jpg He wrote Lessons Astronomical and Philosophical in 1793 and became mathematical master at the Royal Military Academy in 1802. An abridgment of his 1815 Letters on the Evidences of Christianity was done by the Religious Tract Society. ------------------------------------- William Buckland (1784–1856) Anglican priest/geologist who wrote Vindiciae Geologiae; or the Connexion of Geology with Religion explained. He was born in 1784, but his scientific life did not begin before the period discussed herein. ------------------------------------- Augustin Louis Cauchy (1789–1857) Mathematician who defended the Society of Jesus, tried to convert other mathematicians to Catholicism, and was a member of the Society of Saint Vincent de Paul. ------------------------------------- Lars Levi Læstadius (1800–1861) Botanist who started a revival movement within Lutheranism called Laestadianism. This movement is among the strictest forms of Lutheranism. As a botanist he has the author citation Laest and discovered four species. ------------------------------------- Edward Hitchcock (1793–1864) Geologist, paleontologist, and Congregationalist pastor. He worked on Natural theology and wrote on fossilized tracks. ------------------------------------- William Whewell (1794–1866) A professor of mineralogy and moral philosophy. He wrote An Elementary Treatise on Mechanics in 1819 and Astronomy and General Physics considered with reference to Natural Theology in 1833 ------------------------------------- Michael Faraday ![]() A Glasite church elder for a time, he discussed the relationship of science to religion in a lecture opposing Spiritualism. ------------------------------------- Charles Babbage (1791–1871) The Difference Engine and the Ninth Bridgewater Treatise. ------------------------------------- Adam Sedgwick (1785–1873) Anglican priest and geologist whose, A Discourse on the Studies of the University discusses the relationship of God and man. In science he won both the Copley Medal and the Wollaston Medal. ------------------------------------- Temple Chevallier (1794–1873) Priest and astronomer who did Of the proofs of the divine power and wisdom derived from the study of astronomy. He also founded the Durham University Observatory, ------------------------------------- John Bachman (1790–1874) Wrote numerous scientific articles and named several species of animals. He also was a founder of the Lutheran Theological Southern Seminary and wrote works on Lutheranism. ------------------------------------- Robert Main (1808–1878. ) Anglican priest who won the Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society in 1858. Robert Main also preached at the British Association of Bristol. ------------------------------------- Arnold Henry Guyot (1807–1884) Swiss-American geologist who did noteworthy work on glaciers, Guyot Glacier is named for him. He also wrote Creation, or the Biblical Cosmogony in the Light of Modern Science. ------------------------------------- Gregor Mendel (1822–1884) Augustinian Abbot who was the "father of modern genetics" for his study of the inheritance of traits in pea plants ------------------------------------- Philip Henry Gosse (1810–1888. ) Marine biologist who wrote Aquarium (1854), and A Manual of Marine Zoology (1855–56). He is more famous, or infamous, as a Christian Fundamentalist who coined the idea of Omphalos (theology). ------------------------------------- Asa Gray (1810–1888. ) His Gray's Manual remains a pivotal work in botany. His Darwiniana has sections titled "Natural selection not inconsistent with Natural theology", "Evolution and theology", and "Evolutionary teleology." The preface indicates his adherence to the Nicene Creed in concerning these religious issues. ------------------------------------- sco Faà di Bruno (1825—1888. ) Italian mathematician most linked to Turin. He is known for Faà di Bruno's formula and being a spiritual writer beatified in 1988. ------------------------------------- James Dwight Dana (1813–1895) A geologist, mineralogist, and zoologist. He received the Copley Medal, Wollaston Medal, and the Clarke Medal. He also wrote a book titled Science and the Bible and his faith has been described as "both orthodox and intense." ------------------------------------- Louis Pasteur ![]() Inventor of the pasteurization method, a French chemist and microbiologist. He also solved the mysteries of rabies, anthrax, chicken cholera, and silkworm diseases, and contributed to the development of the first vaccines. ------------------------------------- Armand David (1826–1900) Catholic missionary to China and member of the Lazarists who considered his religious duties to be his principal concern. He was also a botanist with the author abbreviation David and as a zoologist he described several species new to the West. ------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... |
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akigbemaru: I do believe in God but detest any religion of any form. They are all sham. It is not but a modern day slavery. This is nothing call Jesus, everything about his life was fictional. How come that nobody from Isreal bears Jesus by name. It's on spanish people that bear Jesus, which goes by Jesus in real pronounciation. Wrong. Jesus Christ has been proven to be a historical personage. Please do your research. akigbemaru: I do believe in God but detest any religion of any form. They are all sham. It is not but a modern day slavery. This is nothing call Jesus, everything about his life was fictional. How come that nobody from Isreal bears Jesus by name. It's on spanish people that bear Jesus, which goes by Jesus in real pronounciation. 'Jesus' is a westernized form of the hebrew Joshua, Yeshua, Jehoshua, Hoshea. It means: The Lord is my Salvation. |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 3)...continue --------------------------------------------- Max Planck ![]() He won the 1918 Nobel Prize in Physics and is considered the founder of Quantum mechanics. He had been raised an observant Lutheran and was an elder in his church from 1920 to his death. In 1937 he delivered the lecture, "Religion and Natural Science", stating that both religion and science require a belief in God --------------------------------------------- Agnes Giberne (1845–1939) She wrote for the Religious Tract Society and was a founding member of the British Astronomical Association. The picture comes from her book Sun, Moon and Stars, which references the Bible while discussing science. --------------------------------------------- John Ambrose Fleming (1849–1945) In science he is noted for the Right-hand rule and work on vacuum tubes, hence the picture of a Fleming valve. He also won the Hughes Medal. In religious activities he was President of the Victoria Institute, involved in the Creation Science Movement, and preached at St Martin-in-the-Fields. ![]() --------------------------------------------- Edward Arthur Milne (1896–1950) British astrophysicist and mathematicians who proposed the Milne model and had a Moon crater named for him. In addition he won several awards one of which, the Gold Medal of the Royal Astronomical Society, is pictured. His last book was Modern Cosmology and the Christian Idea of God. --------------------------------------------- Robert Millikan (1868–1953) The second son of Reverend Silas Franklin Millikan, he wrote about the reconciliation of science and religion in books like Evolution in Science and Religion. He won the 1923 Nobel Prize in Physics. --------------------------------------------- Charles Stine (1882–1954) The son of a minister who was VP of DuPont. In religion he wrote A Chemist and His Bible and as a chemist he won the Perkin Medal --------------------------------------------- E. T. Whittaker (1873–1956) Converted to Catholicism in 1930 and member of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. His 1946 Donnellan Lecture was entitled on Space and Spirit. Theories of the Universe and the Arguments for the Existence of God. He also received the Copley Medal and had written on Mathematical physics before conversion. --------------------------------------------- Arthur Compton (1892–1962) He won a Nobel Prize in Physics. He also was a deacon in the Baptist Church and wrote an article in Christianity Takes a Stand that ed the controversial idea of the United States maintaining the peace through a nuclear-armed air force. --------------------------------------------- David Lack (1910–1973) Director of the Edward Grey Institute of Field Ornithology and convert who wrote Evolutionary Theory and Christian Belief in 1957. As he is in part known for his study of the genus Euplectes a Black-winged Red Bishop is pictured. --------------------------------------------- Charles Coulson (1910–1974) Methodist who wrote Science and Christian Belief in 1955. In 1970 he won the Davy Medal --------------------------------------------- Theodosius Dobzhansky (1900–1975) Russian Orthodox geneticist who criticized young Earth creationism in an essay, "Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution," and argued that science and faith did not conflict. --------------------------------------------- Henry Eyring (1901–1981) American chemist known for developing the Eyring equation. Also a Latter-Day Saint whose interactions with LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith on science and faith are a part of LDS history. --------------------------------------------- William G. Pollard (1911–1989) Anglican priest who wrote Physicist and Christian. In addition he worked on the Manhattan Project and for years served as the executive director of Oak Ridge Institute of Nuclear Studies. --------------------------------------------- Aldert van der Ziel (1910–1991) He researched Flicker noise and has the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers named an award for him. The IEEE corporate office is pictured. He also was a conservative Lutheran who wrote The Natural Sciences and the Christian Message. --------------------------------------------- Carlos Chagas Filho (1910–2000) Neuroscientist who headed the Pontifical Academy of Sciences for 16 years. He studied the Shroud of Turin and his "the Origin of the Universe", "the Origin of Life", and "the Origin of Man" involved an understanding between Catholicism and Science. He was from Rio de Janeiro, hence the well known Christ the Redeemer statue is pictured. --------------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science more to come.... |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers (part 3) -------------------------------------- Georges Lemaître (1894–1966) Roman Catholic priest who was first to propose the Big B.ang theory. -------------------------------------- George Stokes (1819–1903) A minister's son, he wrote a book on Natural Theology. He was also one of the Presidents of the Royal Society and made contributions to Fluid dynamics. -------------------------------------- George Salmon (1819–1904) He won the Copley Medal for his mathematical works. In theology his book An Historical Introduction to the Study of the Books of the New Testament was widely read and he wrote rebuttals to John Henry Newman tracts -------------------------------------- Henry Baker Tristram (1822–1906) A founding member of the British Ornithologists' Union. His publications included The Natural History of the Bible (1867) and The Fauna and Flora of Palestine (1884) -------------------------------------- Lord Kelvin (1824–1907) He gave a famous address to the Christian Evidence Society. In science he won the Copley Medal, the Royal Medal, and was important in Thermodynamics. -------------------------------------- Pierre Duhem (1861–1916) He worked on Thermodynamic potentials and wrote histories advocating that the Roman Catholic Church helped advance science. -------------------------------------- Georg Cantor (1845–1918 .) Lutheran who wrote on religious topics and had an interest in Medieval theology. Revolutionized the mathematical notion of infinity by the introduction of set theory. ------------------------------------- Henrietta Swan Leavitt (1868–1921) A minister's daughter and noted astronomer who was the head of Photometry (astronomy) at Harvard. A practicing Congregationalist, Leavitt was the descendant of early Massachusetts Bay Colony Puritan settlers ------------------------------------- Dmitri Egorov (1869–1931) Russian mathematician who made significant contributions to the broader areas of differential geometry. He was an Imiaslavie who defended religion during the Soviet era. In 1930 the Soviets arrested and imprisoned him as a "religious sectarian." He died of a hunger strike in protest. ------------------------------------- Mihajlo Idvorski Pupin (1858–1935) Serbian-American physicist, chemist, and inventor. He won the Pulitzer Prize for Biography or Autobiography in 1924. His The New Reformation: From Physical to Spiritual Realities concerns religion and spirituality. He also wrote the forward to Science & Religion: A Symposium ------------------------------------- Pavel Florensky (1882–1937) Russian Orthodox priest who wrote a book on Dielectrics and wrote of imaginary numbers having a relationship to the Kingdom of God. ------------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science More to come... |
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More Christian Scientists and Thinkers 2001–today (21st century) -------------------------------- Allan Sandage (1926–2010) An astronomer who did not really study Christianity until after age forty. He wrote the article A Scientist Reflects on Religious Belief and made discoveries concerning the Cigar Galaxy -------------------------------- Stanley Jaki (1924–2009) Benedictine priest and Distinguished Professor of Physics at Seton Hall University, New Jersey, who won a Templeton Prize and advocated the idea modern science could only have arisen in a Christian society -------------------------------- C. F. von Weizsäcker (1912–2007) German nuclear physicist who is the co-discoverer of the Bethe-Weizsäcker formula. His The Relevance of Science: Creation and Cosmogony concerned Christian and moral impacts of science. He headed the Max Planck Society from 1970 to 1980. After that he retired to be a Christian pacifist -------------------------------- Arthur Peacocke (1924–2006) Anglican priest and biochemist, his ideas may have influenced Anglican and Lutheran views of evolution. Winner of the 2001 Templeton Prize. He was a Dean at Clare College, Cambridge, -------------------------------- Richard Smalley (1943–2005) A Nobel Laureate in Chemistry known for buckyballs. In his last years he renewed an interest in Christianity and ed Intelligent design. He taught at Rice University, -------------------------------- Sir Robert Boyd (1922–2004) The London University by Thomas Hosmer Shepherd 1827-28.JPG A pioneer in British space science who was Vice President of the Royal Astronomical Society. He lectured on faith being a founder of the "Research Scientists' Christian Fellowship" and an important member of its predecessor Christians in Science. He was connected to the University College London. -------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science More to come.... |
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for all this ignorant atheist in the house whom have arrogated science to themselves; Know that in the real world, Christian Scientists have done more to advance science than atheist can ever wish for. Christian Scientist and Thinkers ------------------------------------------------------------ Living This section concerns significant Christian thinkers in science who are alive today. Those who lead organizations of Christians in science or who write works concerning how Christians of today respond to science. ------------------------- Christopher Isham (born 1944) Theoretical physicist who developed HPO formalism. He teaches at Imperial College London. In addition to being a physicist, he is a philosopher and theologian. ------------------------- Eric Priest (born 1943) An authority on Solar Magnetohydrodynamics who won the George Ellery Hale Prize among others. He has spoken on Christianity and Science at the University of St Andrews and is a member of the Faraday Institute. An image from St. Andrews is shown. He is also interested in prayer, meditation, and Christian psychology. ------------------------- Donald Knuth (born 1938)(Lutheran) The Art of Computer Programming and 3:16 Bible Texts Illuminated (1991), ------------------------- Michał Heller (born 1936) He is a Catholic priest, a member of the Pontifical Academy of Theology, a founding member of the International Society for Science and Religion. He also is a mathematical physicist who has written articles on relativistic physics and Noncommutative geometry. His cross-disciplinary book Creative Tension: Essays on Science and Religion came out in 2003. For this work he won a Templeton Prize. ------------------------- John Polkinghorne (born 1930) British particle physicist and Anglican priest who wrote Science and the Trinity (2004) ISBN 0-300-10445-6. Winner of the 2002 Templeton Prize. ------------------------- Antonino Zichichi (born 1929) Italian nuclear physicist and former President of the Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare. He has worked with the Vatican on relations between the Church and Science. ------------------------ Larry Wall (born 1954) An American programmer, Wall is the author of the rn Usenet client and the nearly universally-used patch program. Wall developed the Perl interpreter and language while working for Unisys. He is the co-author of Programming Perl (published by O'Reilly), which is the definitive resource for Perl programmers. Wall frequently refers to his Christian faith when speaking in public about Perl. ------------------------- Charles Hard Townes(born 1915) In 1964 he won the Nobel Prize in Physics and in 1966 he wrote The Convergence of Science and Religion. The picture is of Townes with Dr. Roderic Pettigrew, Townes is on the right. ------------------------- Freeman Dyson (born 1923) He has won the Lorentz Medal, the Max Planck Medal, and the Lewis Thomas Prize. He also ranked 25th in The 2005 Global Intellectuals Poll. He has won the Templeton Prize and delivered one of the Gifford Lectures. Although Dyson says "I am myself a Christian", he also adds "I am a practicing Christian but not a believing Christian. To me, to worship God means to recognize that mind and intelligence are woven into the fabric of our universe in a way that altogether sures our comprehension." ------------------------- Antonino Zichichi (born 1929) Italian nuclear physicist and former President of the Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare. He has worked with the Vatican on relations between the Church and Science. ------------------------- Jennifer Wiseman She is Chief of the Laboratory for Exoplanets and Stellar Astrophysics at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center. An aerial of the Center is shown. In addition she is a co-discoverer of 114P/Wiseman-Skiff. In religion is a Fellow of the American Scientific Affiliation and on June 16, 2010 became the new director for the American Association for the Advancement of Science's Dialogue on Science, Ethics, and Religion -------------------------- John Lennox Mathematician and Pastoral adviser. His works include the mathematical The Theory of Infinite Soluble Groups and the religion-oriented God's Undertaker – Has Science buried God? He has also debated religion with Richard Dawkins. He teaches at Oxford ---------------------------- Martin Nowak (born 1965) Evolutionary biologist and mathematician best known for evolutionary dynamics. He teaches at Harvard University, which is pictured in an old drawing. ----------------------------- Stephen Barr Physicist who worked at Brookhaven National Laboratory and contributed papers to Physical Review as well as Physics Today. He also is a Catholic who writes for First Things and wrote Modern Physics and Ancient Faith. He teaches at the University of Delaware ------------------------------ Denis Alexander Director of the Faraday Institute and author of Rebuilding the Matrix – Science and Faith in the 21st Century. He also supervises a research group in cancer and immunology at the Babraham Institute -------------------------------- John D. Barrow (born 1952) English cosmologist who did notable writing on the implications of the Anthropic principle. He is a United Reformed Church member and Christian deist. He won the Templeton Prize in 2006. He once held the position of Gresham Professor of Astronomy -------------------------------- Francis Collins (born 1950) He is the current director of the National Institutes of Health and former director of the US National Human Genome Research Institute. He has also written on religious matters in articles and in Faith and the Human Genome he states the importance to him of "the literal and historical Resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, which is the cornerstone of what I believe." He wrote the book The Language of God: A Scientist Presents Evidence for Belief ---------------------------------- Robert T. Bakker (born 1945) Paleontologist who was a figure in the "dinosaur Renaissance" and known for the theory some dinosaurs were Warm-blooded. He is also a Pentecostal preacher who advocates theistic evolution and has written on religion ---------------------------------- H F Schafer He wrote Science and Christianity: Conflict or Coherence? ISBN 0-9742975-0-X and is a signatory of A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism. He was awarded the American Chemical Society Award in Pure Chemistry in 1979 ---------------------------------- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science More to come... |
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Kay 17: ^^ I do not mean to be disrespectful but lumping "sufferings, sins and devil" in this context is unintelligent. Show some intelligence by treating this words in their "cause and effect" order then you'll deserve an answer from me. |
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Kay 17: If there is a perfect god, why is there an imperfect world?)Suffering is the result of human sin. The world is not the way that God created it and because of that, all are vulnerable to the effects of sin in the world. Why does one person suffer and another does not? Why do catastrophes happen to some and not to others? It is because sin is in the world. But there will come a day when the Lord will return and cleanse this world of all sin and all suffering. (not my words but by thought exactly) Visit this webpage if you're sincere for an answer: http://carm.org/why-there-evil-and-suffering-world |
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This is my understand of life so far: Their are three persons in One God and One God in three persons (the word "One" use to describe the trinity is the hebrew word Echod -means composite unity not solitary unity) 1. The Father 2. The Son (the word "Son" means the exact representation of the Father or a manifestation of God to man) 3. The Holy Spirit Their are three aspects of man 1. spirit 2. soul --> (1.Mind 2.Emotion 3.Will) 3. body Their are three realms in life 1. The Spiritual --> explored by faith 2. The Rational --> explored by intellectualizing (i don't subscribe to speculative philosophy but the pursuit of truth subject to Rhema) 3. The Material --> explored by scientific methods (the empirical) 1 Like |
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@jmoore, The music video i posted is for you and my christian peeps for doing a great "job" on this topic ![]() |
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nonen: from our line of thought, we are misconstruing wisdom for perfection. I guess they mean very diifferent things. Solomon was the wisest man on earth during his time, his wisdom was Godly bestowed, non like it. Little wonder more notable & powerful rulers (likely more virtuous than solomon)were travelling miles to get a feel of his wisdom, not perfection. take +1000 ![]() Wow!!! This sums it up for me...you're so right. Thumbs up. |
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Seun: Seun, Do you care to explain what you mean by "by modern standard"?? Do you think there is such a thing as "modern standard" of morality? What you are referring to probably without knowing what you mean is Post-Modernism which is relativistic at its core. Relativism is the root of Post-modernism which actually denies the existence of Objective Morality. So the statement "He was not a wise man by modern standards" if reduced with Occam's razor as i have done, will expose a statement that is self-contradictory and therefore nonsensical. Seun:And how would you know since you judge by "modern standard". As a christian who believe in Absolute Morality; I believe King Solomon started as a good man, consumed by pride and unbridled ion became a bad man but turned to God in repentance at the twilight of his life. Please read the book of Ecclesiestes, it is a book written by solomon after his "experimentation" with sin; it reveals that having the best of Money, Wisdom and education,Fame and Power, Fun, Accomplishments, Relationships without God gives you nothing but misery. Solomon's story is nothing new; Luficer, before creation was blessed with unimaginable beauty and wisdom but pride corrupted him into Satan. History is full of men who started well but allowed pride and uncontrolled lust to corrupt their wisdom. Seun: How did you know the world was dumber then? You think technology makes you smarter? on the contrary, technology makes you dumber...I can proove it. |
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Solomon - From Righteousness To Idolatry by Sola Scriptura Outside of David his father, Solomon is the most famous King world wide. He's not only known for his great wisdom, wealth and power, but also as the King who built the Temple in Jerusalem. Solomon also wrote the book of Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, and Song of Solomon in the Bible. As many had done after him, he started out with a bang, but ended with a whimper. Solomon took the throne of Israel around 967 B.C. and ruled for 40 years. The first 20 years of his reign were prosperous. He took on many building projects in Israel, he ruled righteously and there was peace. As time wore on though Solomon began trusting in his power and wealth. He became proud and this was the beginning of his slide. Instead of trusting in God who gave Solomon the kingdom, Solomon began building foreign alliances through marriages. Ultimately Solomon ended up with 700 wives and 300 concubines. By Solomon's disobedience to the Law and intermarrying with so many foreign women when he became older, they influenced him into idolatry. Solomon never stopped worshiping God, but he also included other gods. (1 Kings 11:4) Solomon tolerated idolatry and compromised God's Truth for himself. He allowed paganism to mingle with the One true God and settled on worldly wisdom rather than what was divine. It's fair to say Solomon ran after the flesh when he should have been following closely behind God and depending on Him to keep him on a straight path. He knew God's commands, he'd been tremendously blessed by God and was visited by God twice only to eventually turn away. God became angry with Solomon and promised that He would tear the kingdom away from him but for David's sake he would leave Solomon one tribe while the others would be ripped away. It would happen, God said, under the rule of his son. And it did. (1 Kings 11:9-13) Solomon gives us a clear example of what happens when we allow other things to take the place of God. This is where Solomon fell. It's tragic that a man so blessed by God, who was even allowed to live from birth, who was exalted to the throne of Israel for no other reason then God picked him and he turns his worship to other gods, himself and women. Solomon should serve as an example that all the wisdom he had he eventually just became a fool. For all the wealth he had Solomon became bankrupt inside and it had far reaching repercussions. Wealth is not such a blessing. The more someone has the more they're prone to turn away. In the end, it cannot save anyone. Nothing can save us but God alone. We will all still die and take nothing with us and everything we've worshiped will sit in judgment against us. He is jealous over us, His name, His character, His sovereignty, His throne, His crown, all things He created and will not allow anything else to take His place. Sometimes He will have strike us to get us to turn back to Him and it can be devastating, but always necessary. I believe Solomon is in heaven, because years later he did repent and turn away, but like I end so many other posts...there are no great men and women of God. Only a great God. http://arieladinamoorebranded..com/2011/03/solomon-from-righteousness-to-idolatry.html |
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Researchers have established a direct link between the number of friends you have on Facebook and the degree to which you are a "socially disruptive" narcissist. People who scored highly on the Narcissistic Personality Inventory questionnaire had more friends on Facebook, tagged themselves more often and updated their newsfeeds more regularly. The research comes amid increasing evidence that young people are becoming increasingly narcissistic and obsessed with self image and shallow friendships. The latest study, published in the journal Personality and Individual Differences, also found that narcissists responded more aggressively to derogatory comments made about them on the social networking site's public walls and changed their profile pictures more often. A number of previous studies have linked narcissism with Facebook use, but this is some of the first evidence of a direct relationship between Facebook friends and the most "toxic" elements of narcissistic personality disorder. Researchers at Western Illinois University studied the Facebook habits of 294 students, aged between 18 and 65, and measured two "socially disruptive" elements of narcissism - Grandiose Exhibitionism (GE) and Entitlement/Exploitativeness (EE). GE includes "self-absorption, vanity, superiority, and exhibitionistic tendencies" and people who score high on this aspect of narcissism need to be constantly at the centre of attention. They often say shocking things and inappropriately self-disclose because they cannot stand to be ignored or waste a chance of self-promotion. The EE aspect includes "a sense of deserving respect and a willingness to manipulate and take advantage of others". The research revealed that the higher someone scored on aspects of GE, the greater the number of friends they had on Facebook, with some amassing more than 800. Those scoring highly on EE and were also more likely to accept friend requests from strangers and seek social , but less likely to provide it, according to the research. Carol Craig, a social scientist and chief executive of the Centre for Confidence and Well-being , said young people in Britain were becoming increasingly narcissistic and Facebook provided a platform for the disorder. "The way that children are being educated is focusing more and more on the importance of self-esteem - on how you are seen in the eyes of others. "This method of teaching has been imported from the US and is 'all about me'. "Facebook provides a platform for people to self-promote by changing profile pictures and showing how many hundreds of friends you have. I know of some who have more than 1,000." Dr Viv Vignoles, senior lecturer in social psychology at Sussex University, said there was "clear evidence" from studies in the US that college students were becoming increasingly narcissistic. But he added: "Whether the same is true of non-college students or of young people in other countries, such as the UK, remains an open question, as far as I know. "Without understanding the causes underlying the historical change in US college students, we do not know whether these causes are factors that are relatively specific to American culture... or whether they are factors that are more general, for example new technologies such as mobile phones and Facebook." Dr Vignoles said the correlational nature of the latest study meant it was difficult to be certain whether individual differences in narcissism led to certain patterns of Facebook behaviour, whether patterns of Facebook behaviour led to individual differences in narcissism, or a bit of both. Christopher Carpenter, who ran the study, said: "In general, the 'dark side' of Facebook requires more research in order to better understand Facebook's socially beneficial and harmful aspects in order to enhance the former and curtail the latter. "If Facebook is to be a place where people go to repair their damaged ego and seek social , it is vitally important to discover the potentially negative communication one might find on Facebook and the kinds of people likely to engage in them. "Ideally, people will engage in pro-social Facebooking rather than anti-social me-booking." Link: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/facebook-friends-narcissist-171544121.html
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^^^ But of course. Most of the views shared in this post are nothing but mere scientism; never mind the high-sounding abstractions. Best thing they'll come up with is a , permit me to use the word "Highly Personalized Human Simulation Robot (HPHSR ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
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