NewStats: 3,263,952 , 8,182,061 topics. Date: Monday, 09 June 2025 at 01:32 AM r5h6u

tecnolad:


I had to go through your profile to read your previous posts. I must say, I respect you and can relate with everything you've been through.

You've come a long way. Just like you, I've seen life in all versions, made crazy wins and have had to deal with crazy losses. I've been on the brink of losing my sanity and have walked the whole nine yards of sadness.

What's kept me going is a quote I randomly found some years back, and it says:

"You can lose everything, but also give it all it takes to not lose your mind".

What this translates to is that your brilliant mind that made it happen for you to gather the money you lost is still there, and will work for you again to gather even more. Take some time off. Don't do anything in a rush. Breathe and really reflect on where you got it all wrong.

More importantly, I'll advise you to not do crypto trading right now though. Land banking is so much better. Sell that land you have and use the money to buy cheaper lands then leave them for a while and resell them for profit. Rince and repeat.

You'll bounce back and harder than you were.

Please ignore all trolls and negativities. It gets better, brother.

Thank you!, appreciate the advice.. just copied that quote and will save it in my note to read once in a while.. it’s a great quote. Thanks a lot.
For the land banking yes I love the idea. It has always been on my mind in fact exactly what I wanted venturing into before the sudden twist of faith..It’s just a lot on my mind considering I’m a family man now so leaving this country is stil on my top priority list and our economy and currency is getting useless everyday

trollx:

Lol... This is a story of a Yahoo Boy go broke, so don't come here deceiving people that you were trading cryptocurrency, simply say you dey do Bitcoin work!

But what happened to you na normal thing for street na, why e come dey strange to you like say na one Big thing. You know how many men don sell properties japa enter UK, and other places, or transition into doing something else just to get by and sustain.

Street na turn by turn, no matter the huge amount of money wey you collect, you won't be hot forever. You know wetin dey worry you, but you coming here to deceive people with one fabricated story of you trading cryptocurrency na vex me.

My advice for you na to package, live within your means for now and stop trying to keep up with the jones... Peace ✌️ 🕊️

#No shades! #No offense!!

Been won ignore u because the thread is over 3 weeks now but make I just reply you so you fit think.. even if I day do yahoo as you claim, I’d take me atleast 6-7 years to blow up more than 70m that’s me living extravagantly but if i live a frugal life, it would take me atleast 10 years to blow that money suppose I’m spending 7m every year..And that is me doing absolutely nothing wit the money. No business no nothing just spending. i understand the narrative sounds like a typical yahoo boy way day club every weekend and carry Olosho etc but try get sense no be everyone day in that part.. na my greed and reckless trading cause this and lack of proper risk management .. I’m over it now and trying to be a better person everyday.. it’s just a matter of time everything go be in place..

E pain me because I no even live life but lost 80-90% of my net worth due to greed and wanting to have more. e for make sense say I use the money club and lavish then went broke the way you think just like a typical yahoo boy because i understand their lifestyle . in that case I for no even feel am that much.. my brother you have no idea but experience is the best teacher.. probably I just got lucky all my years trading and didn’t really have financial discipline, risk management and was too greedy.. crypto space is wild.. when I think back I realize everything was just my fault.

I for just stop trading when I noticed I was on a loosing streak but instead keep selling properties to revenge trade the market hoping to recover all my losses..

I no day try prove anything to you sha but to enlighten you to come out from ur shallow thinking

tensazangetsu20:


Lol and will you get an entry level job with AI. Most ai jobs require a PhD in maths, stats or computer science. The real ai is math and stat heavy

yea Ai is too demanding and requires a lot from school… my area of interest is cloud computing

jesmond3945:
i think you lack a mentor. I think you would have come for advise before this free fall. If you are a learning a tech skill let it be AI especially generative AI

thanks bro.. but honestly I got things figured out early in life.. I started making money at 26/27 and didn’t even think of women or party or spending recklessly.. that was when I even bought my first property and kept buying at every little money I made them.. situation just changed after my marriage and I lost my daughter. That was the beginning of my endless selling of properties in a desperate bid to make the money I lost but kept loosing..I was too confident in my skills to recover every money I lost but things didn’t just go as planned./

I’m learning cloud computing pivoting towards cloud Engineering since it requires little programming skills and I love the concept of cloud computing since I can combine it with cybersecurity in the future.

Franzese:
See in this life, there are NO BEST LAID PLANS.
Your health can suddenly deteriorate, your finances can diminish even with sure looking investments, a divorce can happen, you can lose a loved one etc etc.

The only constant thing is change and how you adjust to it so all I can say is make a decision and see it through. Keep trying. Don't loose hope and whatever you do don't give up on yourself....

It is what it is.

thank you bro for your kinds words.: I’m not giving up.. just overwhelming sometimes starting a new skill or trying to start afresh trying to figure out life again… Even the crypto is no longer reliable again it takes the Grace of God to break even now due to the level of scams etc. still feels unreal how I lost all these properties.. I got everything already figured out… the plan was to start real estate development after this bull run but alas shit just happened

CaveAdullam:
You've pinpointed your mistakes but you have not done so completely. You're still trying to push blame subtly.

Acknowledge your mistakes squarely. Allow your spirit, soul, and body to undergo proper catharsis. If possible look for a secluded place to cry out. Yes, you need it.

The thing about life is that it's unpredictable. However, our decisions of today will determine how that unpredictability will affect us.

Life is crazy. You must be crazy too in your decisions and actions. That's how you escape drastic turn of events.

Now you've learned the importance of income diversification. Learn more about finance and investment.

Since you're good at researching good crypto projects focus your attention there.

Except it's a matter of life and death, like extremely a matter of life and death, don't sell your properties. Except you want to turn it into a profitable investment or it is a liability.

Now to your wife: You both need the warmth and the love that greases relationship friction. Nothing is happening now that's a result of her fault (from your explanation).

Don't give 1 cent fvck about those spiritual nonsense. It's a lie. A very big fat lie.

You don't see it as lies because you've fallen for the confirmation bias - your mother's dreams, and your financial wreckage.

That woman has nothing to do with it in any way. Don't start raising suspicious eyebrows and go further in punching holes in sealed bags.

Your mother will be definitely justified now because of your current financial status. But don't fall for it. You were the one who made those financial mistakes. Your wife one time tried to persuade you not to but it fell on deaf ears.

Please, please, and please, focus on your family right now. You and your wife need each other now. Don't swim in troubled waters.

All your decisions now are solid. But I still believe you need to through a proper catharsis to clear your mind and head. A good wise friend, sibling, or counselor would be better to walk with you through this stage.

Henceforth, no more regrets of past mistakes. The past is the past. Let it go.

Focus on the present and future.

Learn the tech skills.
Focus on only good crypto projects.
Minimize spending.
Meditate.
Pray if you wish (not religious-wise).
Love your wife and teach her how to improve on her feminity and ways to help the family in these tough times.

The days of grieving shouldn't weigh you down.

It is time to put an end to your mourning. Because it is dawn, and joy comes in the morning.

I wish you well, man.

Thanks.

thanks a lot.. my mind it’s a bit relax and I’m ready to take the next step in my life and face is squarely.. It’s just abit overwhelming sometimes trying to learn a new skill.. for a sec I thought I already got my life figured out.. I still have memory flashes sometimes and I just smh.. many people in my circle didn’t even know the kind of money i amassed cos im quite secretive..

tensazangetsu20:
Before you rush to do anything I will advise you to take care of your mental health. If possible you should see a psychiatrist or someone qualified to talk to. If your mental health is dead, you are as good as dead.

Thank you bro.. I believe my mental health is a bit stable now..I just wanted to free this from my mind since I don’t have any reliable friend I can share this with or family member that won’t mock me or laugh behind my back.. I’ve always been in that situation of being ahead of my peers both family and friends and I know how envious and jealous people are.. I’m still living like nothing happened keeping a low profile

Papilagreen:
I read your your story and I fell I can just say this to you. In life, we have ups and downs. We learn in life by our actions we take and as such, we use that lesson learnt to perfect our next future step in life.

Bro let me drop you a small advice and I hope you take from this.

1, take a break from the world, if I would say do it this way, take a break from the life you living now by
1, from that money you have now make a six months adequate plan for for your wife and child financially so they will be okay for the next 6 to 7 months, then just go to a very remote village where nobody knows you leave all tech behind don't even go with any phone, your first one month there if it's drink or smoke do it as much as you can for one month and after one month sober up if you can if it takes you more than a month keep going but make sure you sober up and when you do, take the next 5 months and meditate and experience and embrace nature. Play with ants, butterflies, birds. Hunt for your food. Learn how to swim live in a hunt live like Tarzan if possible and during this process, think of the things that you know that makes you happy if your son or wife included know who you can call family and blood from your immediate family I e father mother brothers sisters. When you know you have seen the life in a bright side, come back to your wife and son and then you can go ahead and plan which country and which skills you want to follow.

Some people might say I am over saying it but this are my reasons for giving you this advice.

I know you have made up your mind to relocate to another country to start afresh and for your young age I am very certain you can make it work for you and your family.
But know this

1, no amount of money you take with you from Nigeria, will be enough when you relocate to a first world country. It is the money you start making here that will make it all count.

2, you need to get your head and shit together before you relocate because you will live a lonely single depressed life for the next 5 to 6 years because nobody knows you and nobody send you. Before you make a TRUE friend here it takes years because everyone is always on the move or indoors.

3 before you can settle down in another man country will take you life tears and sweat. Every night you go to bed crying and asking God why me? Or God did I make the right decision? But I will definitely tell you this today that as long as you get your shit straight and trust the process, there is always light at the end of the tunnel.

4. Every country get their problems and mostly when you have the thick wonderful shining black skin color that makes you special when they wish they had deep down.
5.Abroad will test you bad as in real bad. So my advice is go first and make sure you make adequate plans for your wife and child and when you settle you send for them. Make you come stress the stress for them then make them come when you don get place of your own.
6, abeg if any of this other s no enter your ear make this one enter.
Make sure you don get place to stay before you japa. I mean make sure say the person wain dey tell you come, when you don land make sure say that learn will be willing to come receive you from airport to stay with am for at least 4 to 6 months. E go help you e get why. If you no get where to stay make sure you do find no just go eyes blind.

7. Even if na plumber you see do make u do am when you reach you go make am.

Finally if you know say you no go fit do the lowest of lowest job then no japa. Reduce your expectations of the country you dey go from 100 to 20 because no be everything you dey watch for film na so e be there.
You made it once before you can make it again over and over but this time use wisdom. Where one door close another one go open.

thank you for the advice. This your plan is cool if I was single, I really cant leave my wife with s young child with no communication for months and also I don’t think I have the mental capacity to withstand that lifestyle for 7 months.

Good day Nairalanders, last year I made a thread about my confusion relocating abroad or staying back in Nigeria to invest and got different opinions.. https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7724820/relocate-stay-nigeria-serious-dilemma

Some people advised I stay and some insisted I travel (i wished I started making plans to travel then).The country wasn’t that bad as naira was around 700-800/$ and inflation wasn’t this bad.. And also, I was in a better financial standing with properties worth atleast 70m as of then,

Walk with me.


I have been a crypto trader for 7 years and literally made 90% of my money from crypto which set me up. I bought properties worth millions , my car, one for my mom and settled a few persons and finally got married to my longtime GF. I felt untouchable and didn’t for once think things would take a different turn in my life. However, my life took a drastic turn when I lost my daughter shortly after birth. This devastating event sent me into a downward spiral, affecting my mental health and trading decisions that cost me thousands of dollars including my trading capital.
After I lost my trading capital, I was broke with a grieving wife and put my first property for sale.

Sold the property for 16m by then dollar was already 850 and rapidly growing, I removed some money for house upkeep for months and converted the rest to dollar to continue on my crypto trading since that was my only source of income and my area of specialty.
I was grieving and trading (don’t know if it was my coping mechanism). Traded recklessly at the same time having issues in my family cos my mom made serious issues after we lost our baby, all this while I never knew she hated my wife and her family.. she initially told me not to get married to the girl and her family siting so many spiritual reasons but all fell on a deaf ear because I couldn’t imagine my mom making decisions for me or telling me who I should marry or not.. tension grew in the family and at the same time I was fighting for my finances together with dealing with a wife that just lost a child.. terrible period for me.. I was in between the devil and the deep blue Sea.. things didn’t go as planned with my trading and I ended up blowing up that money., and it downed on me that things are getting really serious and I need to face these challenges squarely.

I got broke again and since I’m a family man, I must always provide for my family so I always have to do something.. I contemplated selling my second property worth 30m for weeks before I finally concluded on selling it since I need money for investment or something to plan the money with. That was when I created that thread debating on traveling or staying back in Nigeria.. investing that money in Nigeria was not feasible and making sense to me considering the inflation as naira was almost hitting 900-100/$.
I didn’t know what business to do that won’t make me throw away my money or waste my time. Crypto was still the only business I was good in so I decided to diverse another means so I won’t loose money. I realized over trading was the problem because I was basically looking for a new project to invest in which most of them turned out to be scam.. so I made research on good projects to invest that money on

I found good projects I was confident on. I had everything already figured out. The plan was to invest that money and not trade till the end of 2024/2025 since I sold the property July 2023. I also vividly how my wife told me to use part of that money to buy other landed properties but I was adamant and felt I got things figured out already.. so I did exactly as I planed and also moved from that house we were living in to a different place and also started to learn tech. Along the line I got discouraged learning tech and felt I was wasting my time instead of looking for ways to make money. I realized it’s quite difficult for some people that have seen millions of naira to start learning a new skill or going to school.. it’s actually one of the hardest things to do. it takes a different kind of motivation and drive to push urself.

I don’t know how it happened but I found myself going back to trading again, I keep dipping my hands in my long term cryoto investments each time I needed capital to trade since it was taking forever for the coin to grow.. (if I had left what i invested, it would’ve been worth $300k by now with the 25m from my property I sold )

It was really a humbling situation for me. I went from having my life figured out to fighting again for my life… All these period my wife was already pregnant again after she got a miscarriage after loosing our first child. So now I’m not just fighting for myself and wife but a child is in the picture now.. things got worse in the new house we moved to as I kept loosing money on money.. I never had any profitable month in the new house.. I usually have eye for good projects to invest in but I began loosing my confidence and ended my selling so many good projects I invested in before they breakthrough.. I’ve had a case of missing out on a project that would’ve giving me $600k just because I sold it too early. Several other projects too. It was a repetition of circles. It seems I was going round in an unending circles.

I ended up selling another property in my new house worth 20m and also my car worth 11m, it happened like magic and.. I can’t really explained how these things happened but it happened too fast like some kind of evil manipulation or some gambling addiction on crypto.. I wasn’t a careless person, I don’t smoke and don’t drink, don’t womanise either.. so many thoughts ran through my mind even about my mom telling me not to marry my wife because she have had so many bad dreams about the girl and her family, she believes my problems started since I married the girl and she warned me.. God also blessed me with a child as my wife put to birth successfully

I asked my self could it be spiritual or physical? I also come from a relatively poor family that im the only grandchild doing well in the whole family from A-z.. my father died years ago.. my wife’s family is a progressive family that her cousins and direct siblings are in America and Canada so how could what my mom is saying be true. Well I never believed in any of those things right from the beginning but seeing the trajectory of my life in a space of 2 years make me begin to wonder

I already believe it to be my recklessness and probably gambling on crypto hoping to hit it big but on the other hand I’m not a newbie in this biz,, I have been grinding in this for atleast 7 years and got experience in this biz, its seems my years of hard work got wiped in a space of a year +

Now I’ve a property left valued at 18m that’s like a lifeline and already decided I won’t invest in crypto but use that money to travel out,, I’m back to learning the tech skill I have been avoiding for years and pushing myself hard everyday. The aim is to use the rest of the year to improve my skill to a significant level and be good at it by next year

This feels like a learning process and at same time a humbling experience for me, I have been without a vehicle for the past 4 months now.. I’ve made so much in life and almost lost everything even at a young age.. life can be very funny, when I had all the money I lost my child, when God finally blessed me with a child, I’m now fighting for my finances with my rent almost due and waiting for my property to be sold before I balance my rent.

I know i probably would’ve started a physical business in the past but looking at the current situation of Nigeria and inflation hitting ath I doubt my business could’ve survived but still this is a lesson of me putting all my eggs in one basket and still thinking Nigeria has any future. If I probably had travelled years ago when things weren’t this bad in Nigeria and I still had lots of resources, I doubt I would be in this situation..

Selling that land feels right now like I’d be starting life afresh with no property to my name… it hurts me so bad I’m even ashamed to explain this to anyone. Only my wife understands the level of damage that has happened in our lives the past 2 years. I can’t even tell my mom details of all of these.

I’m writing this out there so people can learn one or two from it,, I’d be 32 in few months time and I’m picking up myself by learning a tech skill and relocate from the country. I also plan relocating to Abuja first so I can be close to the embassy as regards to visa interviews runs etc I want to dedicate the next 1 year in traveling runs and perfecting a tech skill I can bank on when I travel. My story is quite deeper than this but I’m not a long writer so I just touched the most important part.

I will probably come back here in a year time or 2 years to write my progress in life . Thanks for reading

rsogbuyi:
I’ve created the group.
You can quote this message with your number or send it as a mail. I’ll add you ASAP. I don’t want to drop the link here cos of possible spammers

Pls add 07044469387

Tranquility2345:


No need for this long story. Just tell us the truth say you wan jakpa with your family and receive the best advice.

lol, normally the intent is to stay back after studies but I still have to do my masters and get a job and find way to get Pr na why I day find a good advice because I want travel with my family. We alresdy have relatives over there way go make our landing smooth na the visa and how to go about it be the main thing. Any advice you can give boss. 😀goin alone for day easier but as I day add wife and child e day abit tricky so every advice from this forum from people way don run family visa go help a lot

Hello guys good day, I intend to for my masters in petroleum Eng in the US but want to go with my wife and 6 months old child as I can’t leave them behind as I don’t know how long it would take to unite with my family. I am 31 years. I want to know the best way to go about my visa applications and home ties to avoid rejection. My wife also have two siblings in the US one of them is already a PR holder. I need advice on how to seal every loopholes to avoid rejection. I know I have to provide enough proof of funds to the VO that can take care of them while I study. Would appreciate any advice from experienced folks that have traveled with their family pls.

By all means japa don’t even think twice about it. I’m in Same age bracket with you , even tho I don’t have a personal house to my name but I have series of properties and can make atleast 1m-3m a month and I wish I left 2 years ago or atleast started the process when my wife told me. I’m comfortable in Nigeria too but with the situation of thing’s going on, It seems Nigeria would get worse with Time. Even if not for yourself , think about the future of your kids.
My advice for you. >> start learning IT skill this period before you make the move. I mean immediately . I’m currently learning cyber security and would do that for the whole of this 2024 then 2025 I leave this country. Meanwhile I’m on the process of canada PR because I still believe going as PR is the best shot and If that doesn’t work out the student route would be our option but my wife would be schooling while i work hopefully I land an IT job in cybersecurity because I want to fully ground my self this year in cybersecurity and also learn truck driving by the side .

Relocation is good but you have to have a set out plans and road map so you don’t get frustrated . I already know how things work in the western world with peoples experiences I read on Nairaland. Having a skill gives you that confidence to Travel with little fears. That’s probably the reason I didn’t think of relocating the last 2 years. U need a soft IT skill to gain confidence for relocation.

There’s no quarantee you would get job immediately but having atleast one or two hot skills and improving yourself gives you hope that you would get something someday. I used to ask this Same questions on Nairaland a few years ago but trust me most people would discourage you and tell you how you’re doing better and how abroad is harder etc.

Even if not for anything , having a second port is the best thing a man coming from Nigeria can ever do for his family . I see no future in this country honestly and it’s better you leave now or you might end up regretting not leaving or starting the process even in the next 2-3 years not to talk of 10 years.

Start learning skills right away. I’m not even in the corporate world like you. I’ve been a crypto and forex trader for years and hav never worked for any1 but I’m willing and ready to learn IT skill that would make me stand out.
Abroad is never easy no doubt but frankly It’s far better.
I a friend told me 2 years ago that this my crypto trading I can do it abroad too but I was so sturbon I even warned my wife not to mention abroad to me again. Well it’s never too late. My happiness is I realized on time. Imagine getting to 40 years before you realize lol. It’s still early my guy don’t even think twice start planning but equip yourself first with skills and save more. No rush.

Ydforlife:



As far as you are giving birth in Calgary and you are an out of country patient ! You need to pay the 15k deposit to medicom for you to get a doctor and for the hospital to it you except you want to pay through your nose .
I just had my baby in Calgary and I paid the 15k deposit , the hospital fee is different from the deposit so I am waiting for my bill .
I will share the break down when I get everything .

Hello dear pls still waitin for your breakdown. Thanks

PoliteActivist:
I already have my plane tickets o, and been planning my life in Canada oo!
Didn't think I'd actually land the job at all! 500K a month plus housing, car, health and life insurance benefits.
Why is life always like this??!! In serious dilemma what to do

For me stay in Nigeria for atleast 6 months and save money. If possible 1 year. You can’t work with a visitor visa. don’t ruin ur visa. Save enough money since you already got 10 years visa no issue. Ur plan should be permanent resident route with work experience. If you’re old for marriage get married and start the pr process with ur wife. 500k is change. Naira is useless right now that’s just $500. You might not make a lot of money in Canada due to tax and inflation but atleast after a few years you will have ur citizenship which is the most important. With your citizenship u can relocate to any country of ur choice hassle free or come back to Nigeria if u wish. Ur target should be a second port for urself and kids.

And by the way pls how easy was it getting ur visitor visa cos I plan on getting one for my my child birth. How long did it take? How much was in your acnt and the necessary documents ur submitted. Thanks

Greetings my people, after careful consideration , I would like to go through express entry and I can see from this thread sask is a good province with low cost of living for a newbie from Nigeria .

I calculated my wife’s sinp score base on a few facts that’s available and possible and got above 70 points.
1. My wife is the main applicant with a bsc degree in human resource management . She has a one year nysc working experience with NSITF( Nigerian social insurance trust fund) as a Human resource assistant . I don’t know if that counts. And also she managed a restaurant for a year.
2.she hasn’t written ielts but with good preparation, we would try to score 7+ (I intend to write it too)
3. She has two married cousins in Canada with PR. One of them has been a resident for 4 years + but haven’t confirmed the province they live yet.
4. Our age range is withing 22-35

5, I have a degreee In petroleum Engr but yet to get my cert due to the high outstanding fees I’m owing and also since I might not be using the cert as i Inted to go the tech route or study something else.

Pls I want to know if we qualify with these facts listed Above and if no, what areas do we need to upgrade. Study route is also an option but I think our best shot should be the PR since it would make things easier.

Also what’s the advice for a dependant coming with just waec cert as I don’t intend to collect my cert or would I need it? Advice pls from people here would really go a long way. I don’t want to make any mistake or have any regrets

Guest911:

I travelled under a study visa, so I can’t take full time programming jobs. And tech companies here won’t hire students/part-time.
I can’t relocate to another city because I need to attend physical classes lol. I haven’t gotten another remote job yet because the tech job market isn’t in a good place now, so many layoffs and lots of competition and recession etc. I just got here sha so hopefully the job markets improves. But yeah if you have driving experience bring you extract VERY IMPORTANT.

Ok i understand. I thought you had the remote job in Nigeria and travelled via pr. I’m aware about the many layoffs and now with this new AI era with chatgpt etc, IT jobs will be so competitive. Maybe we can connect on WhatsApp if you’re cool.

Dogo246:
You sound like somebody I know lmao. But continue. You know yourself.

lol in your dreams

Guest911:


@OP I was in your shoes as well, I made money during the crypto bull run too, I lost most of it too to altcoins, but I'm a programmer so the remote jobs paid better than crypto. I have relocated to Canada. I don't really have many regrets, except I should have chosen a different city with more job opportunities. and I should have acquired some certifications before coming here like health care certs, R certs, and the rest.
Those jobs pay well even for part-time.
Anyway, the bottom line is purchasing power in Nigeria is quite low now coupled with the insecurity. So starting a business is uninspiring. I would suggest you do some research acquire relevant skills and certificates before relocating.

WhT is stopping you from relocating to a better city if you don’t mind me asking.
You mean health care pay more than the programming job you’re currently doing? What would you’ve done differently if you where still in naija about to make such decision.
What other skills and certifications would you recommend since you are there and know how the system works

Lekan239:
so you have it then. The rich are taking billons in loans. Even usa still dey collect loans. Don't let anybody deceive you

I know. Taking loan is not bad. But using it to start up a new business is what I don’t . It’s better to use it to expand your already stable business and loans abroad is Easier expecially for real estate with their mortgage system.

GboyegaD:


There is enough information on and off Naira land to guide however, coming to ask from people who have no idea what your life/plans/aspirations are is not proper enough.

Yes i understand you and trust me I read up on things about japa both the good and the bad but I needed to get a clear perspective base on my situation. everyone’s case is different. My question is if relocation is worth if. I love to learn from person’s experience cos I hate regrets.

genkins:


Also relocating doesn’t come fast like that. It takes atleast 1 year

That is if it is Canada..you can get UK in 6weeks.
I've tried biz in Nigeria..Nigeria always frustrates business..no light,security etc..think we'll sha.tnx for ur response

UK is a no no. U get nothing in return not even port while they suck you dry. No good jobs apart from care jobs. U can imagine someone that has seen millions going to uk to do care jobs with no even guarantee of getting a good job afterwards and port lmao. Canada remains the best

HellVictorinho6:
does it mean ur certificate or degree is useless?

It is to me right now. The world is revolving and you don’t want to be stucked in the past. Traveling out would mean a change in career for me.

Evii:
Chairman I advice you learn a skill and then relocate abroad. Pls, I'm interested in crypto trading but don't know how to go about it, all I do at the moment is buy when the price is low and sell when it's high but I'm a novice in trading. Pls Sir, can I get your for you to put me through.

HELP A BROTHER

It’s probably the best thing to do for now since we’re still in bear season. Buying right now would set you up for the bull run. U don’t need much trading. Trading meme coins is super risky

Lekan239:
Good to the bank. Take a loan with ur property let's say about 20-40m naira loan. Start up something tangible.

Don't mind those people saying learn a skill. Na everybody dey learn skill

Omo I don’t really buy the idea of using loan to start a business. It’s too much risk. Business is not really a problem for me. 20m is something I can make easily in crypto and beside I won’t even have time for the business. I just need to set up something for my wife

Lekan239:
ur story is not far from what I'm currently facing that's why I know and said all that.

I have assest too. House, land etc. But all that are just assest. Low in cash....

I also earn online and its not guaranteed.

Though I could easily still save for my japa plan within three-four month if it was only me, but fortunately I have a wife and a son.

After handling millions, I can't see my self doing 9-5 atleast not in Nigeria never.

Going abroad with my family will translate to me selling my properties. I don't also.

Not everybody will relocate abroad.

I am two years younger than you are. I already started a little biz for my wife.

Will continue saving hear and will continue hoping for a better future.

Though sometimes I think about japa, but I no dey japa

story of my life bro! It’s just a hard decision to make. It may look like you’re indecisive but for someone that has seen millions leaving and going to start life afresh with so much uncertainty is just too hard. My two brother in-laws are in America. They left as students tho they had nothing in Nigeria and still young. Most times they ask me to relocate but man these guys are not in my shoes lol. People way never see money no go understand. All there own na japa japa

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Mcslize:
My advice; relocate. It will open you to better opportunities.

I believe you're still yet to become a full time crypto trader. I guess you buy coins and sell when they appreciate. That's just one aspect.

I will advice you learn Future trading; an aspect of crypto trading. It's actually a skill. Learn it and you will never have any reason to want to work any 9-5 job.

Do you know how to do Technical Analysis? Can you analyze any crypto asset? If you haven't learned how to do Technical Analysis, that's the aspect you should focus on right now to learn and master it.

Technical Analysis is a sustainable skill on its own. I will advise you to learn that or Forex trading instead of the coding.

When you know something, it becomes your full time job. I know how much most Forex and technical crypto traders are making. It's a long term skill that will put food on your table forever.

I mean real technical traders o not just those that only buy coins and sell coins I am referring to o. Professional technical traders that can analyse any crypto asset and trade it.

I believe persons like Habby Forex and Jeffrey Benson who take Forex as full time skill won't be thinking of learning any other thing. Those are Technical Forex traders that master their skills and it's what is putting food on their table till date. I guess person like Habby won't wake up one day and say he wants to learn another skill when what he already knows is making him millions of dollars every year.

That's why I said go and learn the technical side of crypto trading not just merely buying of Meme coins to sell in the future.

Relocate if you have the means but try and learn the technical aspect of trading and become a professional crypto or Forex technical trader. That's the real deal.

Selfkontrol

Thanks for the advice. I think the technical analysis is spot on. But sometimes market conditions beats all technical analysis, bad news also drive price, future its basically for altcoins in good exchanges and it’s also the fastest way to get liquidated if you’re not careful. Technical analysis imo works better with forex compared to crypto but still good to know it. What I do is hodl solid altcoins for long term and trade meme coins. So everyday I hunt for the next shiny meme coins to make quick bucks and sell, reinvest them into solid projects for the bull run. Hodling strong altcoins beats trading them on the long run. And yes I’m a full time trader. I got burnt a lot this bear season which is normal. Even the best traders have huge losses. It’s just time consuming to trade all dY. Future trading is worse. U can get heart attack with future even with all the technical analyses lmao. If I can hit my target this coming bull run, I will do less trading and more of hodling while I focus on physical business like real estate etc. thanks for your input

zomby:


For now, relocate your wife and secure a visa that gives you access to her. As long as your wife is loyal, strong, sensible, and not from certain part of Nigeria all should be fine.
Continue with your plans in Nigeria and see what happens. If things go well, you can continue to shuttle btw Nigeria and Canada or wherever you choose.
If things don’t go as planned, you can always your wife in Canada.

Jagaban is here with a better strategy to move Nigeria forward…My advice to folks is not to close your eyes on Nigeria; something special is ahead. Be part of it.

thank you for your input. I really don’t fancy that option. I don’t consider it marriage if you both can’t be together. I mean we’re young couples.if I have to relocate it has to be both of us.

LandMann:
Indiscipline, challenging environment and lack of focus is why you are unable to learn a skill in Nigeria.

In you spend 25-30 million to migrate to Canada, nobody would tell you to sit up and learn any available skill to perfection so that the money you've spent migrating won't turn to waste.

Also, the challenge of paying bills in whatever country you migrate to will force you to sit up or risk failing and returning to Nigeria.

If I was in your shoes with same opportunities I'd risk 5 million to load up on any one or two crypto that will blow next bull run... Then I'd stop day trading and use the next 18 to 24 months to focus on learning a skill that will be useful to me if I decide to be self employed in future...

Once you've acquired the skills you can then decide to migrate from Nigeria if you so want.

In all this, I think you need an ability partner... Someone to monitor your progress in your skill learning journey and motivate you to continue before you find another excuse to abandon your plan or course of action.

I can be your guide and ability partner, your vocal conscience to motivate you to succeed and always remind you of the cost of failing. Send me a pm.

Thank you sir. I think you’re right in some part. I stopped learning simply becos I can’t combine coding for hours and trading for hours. The coding time was making me miss out a lot of trading opportunities. I’m really not good at multitasking especially two fields that demands same attention. One would suffer. I’m literally on my pc and phone from morning till night watching charts and looking for the next coin to buy. It’s really not easy, if at all I want to go into tech, it has to be a less demanding one so I can still trade crypto

damosky12:


Guy. On this forum, you'll get lots of conflicting advice from people who are no where near you are...

But, reasonably, if you have amassed a worth of tens of millions for yourself at this age, I honestly think you've done well for yourself. I understand that your crypto trading business is not stable, but you know as much as I do that you can establish yourself and your wife with what you have now...

There are much advantages in relocating to Canada too. You could acquire sellable skills and relocate to get a job there. However, the cons of that are that it's a new terrain. It's like a leap into the unknown. From my observation, most of those who have japa to Canada prolly wouldn't have if they had half of what you have...

All in all, I think you should pray about it all. What worked for another person may ruin you. And what didn't work for another person could prolly be your fort. The best is to pray about it. The God who made you had your story. He knows the way you ought to go than you ever would.

My few cents.

Thank you sir for this great advice.

genkins:

Bros,
If I knew what u know at such a young age,il be sharing fence with them looters in maitama here.you should Japa IMO,There I think u school and work while ur wify work full-time.it will be easier make dollars to position for the next bullrun at a bigger level.then you can come back asumming NG is better by then.pls il like to know what you are positioning for the bullrun.if you drop your email,I will send u a mail.plszi would appreciate.i can see Shiba Inu made you.pls ill like to know what u are positioning for.

Raising money for bull run is not at issue cos I currently have a few coins like $dione $rio $ator that would do well in bull run. Also relocating doesn’t come fast like that. It takes atleast 1 year. Any plans I have is after bull run. If it doesn’t works out the way I foresee then I have to leave or use the available resource I have to set up a biz. That’s the essence of this thread

Gerrard59:


I am late to this, but stay in Nigeria. You laid the foundation for the wealth. You were not beauqthed, na you do am yourself. You are going 31, all things been equal, if you follow Express Entry and succeed, you should be 33/34. A big IF because you don't have the necessary work experience, additional degrees, wouldn't be interested in learning a new language etc. If you were 26 or max 28 and single, I would have said run it. But you don 30, which in my opinion, folks should stay put in Nigeria except they are able to relocate on a work visa. In your case, such a profile is nonexistent and your wife is pregnant.

Stay put in Nigeria.

Look for a physical business that has the potential to succeed/run itself in the long run. Run some programmes at Lagos Business School to gain insights and build a network. Your wife should be deeply involved. She is better off monitoring affairs in the new business than selling wigs. That too is not sustainable in the long term unless she owns a factory in Vietnam or China.

Yes, bore your children in the US if possible. Offer the best education, school and parental. With that education, they can stand gidigbam in any part of the world. If safety is an issue for you, move to a less restive state.

Thanks Chief for your advice. Really appreciate.
The plan is to set up a beauty shop for my wife.
I haven’t yet figured out a business for myself. The real estate demands huge investment which I plan to do in next 2-3 years. I understand all these That’s why I haven’t even made the move. Thank you