| chloride6: 11:23pm On Mar 05, 2019 |
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This night as I am once again kept awake by the unwholesome noise generated by generators in my area, I cant only wonder when my neighbours will be reasonable enough to switch off their generating sets to allow me catch a few hours of sleep before I hit the road tommorow.
In this age and time where devices such as inverters and rechargeable fans exist,the heat should be no excuse to keep up your neighbours all night. However most lagosians dont care. Once their selfish selves can squeeze out enough money for 3 litres of fuel to get them to the next morning they dont care about their neighbours who also have to deal with not just the heat but the noise.
I have generator but I cannot in good conscience leave it on after 11pm? To do this would be simply selfish and irresponsible.
Therefore, I wouldn't mind help from anyone in sponsoring a bill to the Lagos State House of Assembly that prohibit the use of generating sets after 12am.
I don't care about the outcome, if its ed fine.
If it's not, I guess I tried
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| ImDStar: 12:16am On Mar 06, 2019 |
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| nickxtra(m): 2:15am On Mar 06, 2019 |
ImDStar:
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Consult a lawyer who is vast in Legislative drafting. If you need one, inbox me
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| chloride6: 5:23am On Mar 06, 2019 |
nickxtra:
Consult a lawyer who is vast in Legislative drafting. If you need one, inbox me
I get that part.
What about the remaining?
Actually getting the bill to the floor for reading?
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| naptu2: 7:50am On Mar 06, 2019 |
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Chloride6
What you are asking for already exists both at the federal and state levels.
Unfortunately I'm in transit at the moment, so I'm going to compose this post entirely from my memory, but I'll provide more information when I get to my destination.
The law that created the Nigerian Environmental Safety Regulatory Agency (NESREA) empowers it to set noise limits. Individuals and organisations must comply with this limit or they will be made to pay fines for every day that they contracene the regulation and they can also be jailed. Unfortunately I can't what the limit is.
In Lagos State, LASEPA has set a limit of 55 decibels during the day and 45 decibels at night. I watched an episode of Sunrise Daily (between 2005 and 2009) in which the then commissioner of environment, Dr Muiz Banire talked about noise pollution.
He said that he tested the generator in his home and discovered that he was contravening the law and he had to get it soundproofed. He said that citizens could complain to LASEPA and LASEPA would initially issue a warning to the defaulter to reduce the noise being emitted. Then they will conduct inspections to see if their warning is being complied with and lastly, they will seal the property if the problem continues.
I've posted a long list of example of action taken against churches, mosques, bars, factories, hotels etc. and ways in which you can LASEPA. I'll search for them when I get to my destination or you can use the Nairaland search bar and type " Naptu2 Lasepa "
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| naptu2: 7:54am On Mar 06, 2019 |
naptu2:
Lasepa has taken action against lots of churches, mosques, music stores, hotels and factories that have been engaged in noise pollution and there are many nairaland threads about those incidents, so I'll encourage you to complain, because the system works.
2009 threads.
Lagos Shuts Redeemed Christian Church Of God, Academy Press And Other Companies.
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/345207/lagos-shuts-redeemed-christian-church
Fashola May Close Down Us Embassy Warehouse
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/256257/fashola-may-close-down-us
Fashola Seals Oyakhilome’s Warehouse
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/371035/fashola-seals-oyakhilomes-warehouse
“shackled By Laws On Noise Pollution”
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/361263/shackled-laws-noise-pollution
2010 thread
Lagos Orders Churches To Remove Loud Speakers
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/487060/lagos-orders-churches-remove-loud
2011 thread
Lagos To Re-open United Nigeria Textiles
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/744800/lagos-re-open-united-nigeria-textiles
2012 threads
Lagos State shuts down Lord's Chosen, 6 other churches because of noise pollution https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/876166/lagos-shuts-down-lords-chosen
Fashola, Clerics To Tackle Noise Pollution In Lagos
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/1056540/fashola-clerics-tackle-noise-pollution
2013 threads
Lagos May Shut Abattoir Market
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/1236877/lagos-may-shut-abattoir-market
79-year-old Lady Sues Redeemed Church For Noise Pollution
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/1171114/79-year-old-lady-sues-redeemed-church
2015 threads
Lagos State Shuts Down Churches, Mosques, Over Noise Pollution
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2286013/lagos-state-shuts-down-churches
Lagos Seals Kanu Nwankwo’s Hotel, Worship Centres
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2500532/lagos-seals-kanu-nwankwos-hotel
22 Noisy Churches Shut Down In Lagos State
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2558926/22-noisy-churches-shut-down
Lagos Shuts 53 Churches, Mosques, Hotels
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2792857/lagos-shuts-53-churches-mosques
2016 Thread
Lagos Seals 70 Churches, 20 Mosques, 11 Hotels For Noise Pollution
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/3184760/lagos-seals-70-churches-20
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| naptu2: 7:59am On Mar 06, 2019 |
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| naptu2: 8:02am On Mar 06, 2019 |
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Regarding sponsoring a bill. Every legislator is expected to have a constituency office where people who live in their constituency can meet them.
You are expected to meet your legislator at his constituency office and give him a document that explains what the bill that you are proposing is all about. He will then sponsor that bill at the assembly.
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| chloride6: 8:32am On Mar 06, 2019 |
naptu2:
Chloride6
What you are asking for already exists both at the federal and state levels.
Unfortunately I'm in transit at the moment, so I'm going to compose this post entirely from my memory, but I'll provide more information when I get to my destination.
The law that created the Nigerian Environmental Safety Regulatory Agency (NESREA) empowers it to set noise limits. Individuals and organisations must comply with this limit or they will be made to pay fines for every day that they contracene the regulation and they can also be jailed. Unfortunately I can't what the limit is.
In Lagos State, LASEPA has set a limit of 55 decibels during the day and 45 decibels at night. I watched an episode of Sunrise Daily (between 2005 and 2009) in which the then commissioner of environment, Dr Muiz Banire talked about noise pollution.
He said that he tested the generator in his home and discovered that he was contravening the law and he had to get it soundproofed. He said that citizens could complain to LASEPA and LASEPA would initially issue a warning to the defaulter to reduce the noise being emitted. Then they will conduct inspections to see if their warning is being complied with and lastly, they will seal the property if the problem continues.
I've posted a long list of example of action taken against churches, mosques, bars, factories, hotels etc. and ways in which you can LASEPA. I'll search for them when I get to my destination or you can use the Nairaland search bar and type " Naptu2 Lasepa "
Thank you so much naptu2.
I'm determined to see this to a logical end, even if it just calling out the regulatory agencies.
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| chloride6: 8:34am On Mar 06, 2019 |
naptu2:
Regarding sponsoring a bill. Every legislator is expected to have a constituency office where people who live in their constituency can meet them.
You are expected to meet your legislator at his constituency office and give him a document that explains what the bill that you are proposing is all about. He will then sponsor that bill at the assembly.
Very enlightening.
Thank you so much.
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| Ishilove: 8:42am On Mar 06, 2019 |
chloride6:
This night as I am once again kept awake by the unwholesome noise generated by generators in my area, I cant only wonder when my neighbours will be reasonable enough to switch off their generating sets to allow me catch a few hours of sleep before I hit the road tommorow.
In this age and time where devices such as inverters and rechargeable fans exist,the heat should be no excuse to keep up your neighbours all night. However most lagosians dont care. Once their selfish selves can squeeze out enough money for 3 litres of fuel to get them to the next morning they dont care about their neighbours who also have to deal with not just the heat but the noise.
I have generator but I cannot in good conscience leave it on after 11pm? To do this would be simply selfish and irresponsible.
Therefore, I wouldn't mind help from anyone in sponsoring a bill to the Lagos State House of Assembly that prohibit the use of generating sets after 12am.
I don't care about the outcome, if its ed fine.
If it's not, I guess I tried
Lalalsticlala
Seun
Mynd44
Ishilove
Dominique
Obinoscopy
Madridguy
Deomelo
Naptu2
Good luck with that
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| Ishilove: 8:44am On Mar 06, 2019 |
naptu2:
Chloride6
What you are asking for already exists both at the federal and state levels.
Unfortunately I'm in transit at the moment, so I'm going to compose this post entirely from my memory, but I'll provide more information when I get to my destination.
The law that created the Nigerian Environmental Safety Regulatory Agency (NESREA) empowers it to set noise limits. Individuals and organisations must comply with this limit or they will be made to pay fines for every day that they contracene the regulation and they can also be jailed. Unfortunately I can't what the limit is.
In Lagos State, LASEPA has set a limit of 55 decibels during the day and 45 decibels at night. I watched an episode of Sunrise Daily (between 2005 and 2009) in which the then commissioner of environment, Dr Muiz Banire talked about noise pollution.
He said that he tested the generator in his home and discovered that he was contravening the law and he had to get it soundproofed. He said that citizens could complain to LASEPA and LASEPA would initially issue a warning to the defaulter to reduce the noise being emitted. Then they will conduct inspections to see if their warning is being complied with and lastly, they will seal the property if the problem continues.
I've posted a long list of example of action taken against churches, mosques, bars, factories, hotels etc. and ways in which you can LASEPA. I'll search for them when I get to my destination or you can use the Nairaland search bar and type " Naptu2 Lasepa "
I love you.
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| nickxtra(m): 10:43am On Mar 06, 2019 |
chloride6:
I get that part.
What about the remaining?
Actually getting the bill to the floor for reading?
Check out for the respective House or Senate committees, which activities relate to the intent of your bill. Get them involved- what will you offer them?
... To make matters smooth, involve lobbyists. They are all over the respective legislative houses in the country
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| Re: How Do You Sponsor A Bill To Your State House Of Assembly? by Nobody: 10:44am On Mar 06, 2019 |
naptu2:
Chloride6
What you are asking for already exists both at the federal and state levels.
Unfortunately I'm in transit at the moment, so I'm going to compose this post entirely from my memory, but I'll provide more information when I get to my destination.
The law that created the Nigerian Environmental Safety Regulatory Agency (NESREA) empowers it to set noise limits. Individuals and organisations must comply with this limit or they will be made to pay fines for every day that they contracene the regulation and they can also be jailed. Unfortunately I can't what the limit is.
In Lagos State, LASEPA has set a limit of 55 decibels during the day and 45 decibels at night. I watched an episode of Sunrise Daily (between 2005 and 2009) in which the then commissioner of environment, Dr Muiz Banire talked about noise pollution.
He said that he tested the generator in his home and discovered that he was contravening the law and he had to get it soundproofed. He said that citizens could complain to LASEPA and LASEPA would initially issue a warning to the defaulter to reduce the noise being emitted. Then they will conduct inspections to see if their warning is being complied with and lastly, they will seal the property if the problem continues.
I've posted a long list of example of action taken against churches, mosques, bars, factories, hotels etc. and ways in which you can LASEPA. I'll search for them when I get to my destination or you can use the Nairaland search bar and type " Naptu2 Lasepa "
Damn!! Who is this guy??
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| Re: How Do You Sponsor A Bill To Your State House Of Assembly? by Nobody: 11:29am On Mar 06, 2019 |
chloride6:
This night as I am once again kept awake by the unwholesome noise generated by generators in my area, I cant only wonder when my neighbours will be reasonable enough to switch off their generating sets to allow me catch a few hours of sleep before I hit the road tommorow.
In this age and time where devices such as inverters and rechargeable fans exist,the heat should be no excuse to keep up your neighbours all night. However most lagosians dont care. Once their selfish selves can squeeze out enough money for 3 litres of fuel to get them to the next morning they dont care about their neighbours who also have to deal with not just the heat but the noise.
I have generator but I cannot in good conscience leave it on after 11pm? To do this would be simply selfish and irresponsible.
Therefore, I wouldn't mind help from anyone in sponsoring a bill to the Lagos State House of Assembly that prohibit the use of generating sets after 12am.
I don't care about the outcome, if its ed fine.
If it's not, I guess I tried
There are two sides to your problem:
The first is that it seems you just returned to the country. And if that's the case, welcome to Naija.
Then second is that you could be suffering from watching too much American movies where you see people call the cops on neighbors who are playing loud music.
The govt cannot provide electricity, the generator that citizens bought to help their lives, you want it's usage regulated.
Is it everyone that can afford inverter or rechargeable fan?
If not for one thing, I would have called you stupid.
People like you are the ones that voted Buhari because you believe Nigerians need to be taught a lesson.
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| chloride6: 11:36am On Mar 06, 2019 |
Awol1:
There are two sides to your problem:
The first is that it seems you just returned to the country. And if that's the case, welcome to Naija.
Then second is that you could be suffering from watching too much American movies where you see people call the cops on neighbors who are playing loud music.
The govt cannot provide electricity, the generator that citizens bought to help their lives, you want it's usage regulated.
Is it everyone that can afford inverter or rechargeable fan?
If not for one thing, I would have called you stupid.
People like you are the ones that voted Buhari because you believe Nigerians need to be taught a lesson.
1. I do not even possess a port.
I find your pattern of thinking shallow and alarming?
A good rechargeable fan costs less than N20,000.00, far less than a generating set...
The fact that there is no light does not give you the right to run your generator all night....
You have no right to inconvenience me in a bid to solve your problems, that is not just stupid its selfish.
Imagine a situation where everyone left their generating sets all night just because of the heat.....
If you must solve your issues, don't do it at my detriment...
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| Re: How Do You Sponsor A Bill To Your State House Of Assembly? by Nobody: 11:57am On Mar 06, 2019 |
chloride6:
1. I do not even possess a port.
I find your pattern of thinking shallow and alarming?
A good rechargeable fan costs less than N20,000.00, far less than a generating set...
The fact that there is no light does not give you the right to run your generator all night....
You have no right to inconvenience me in a bid to solve your problems, that is not just stupid its selfish.
Imagine a situation where everyone left their generating sets all night just because of the heat.....
If you must solve your issues, don't do it at my detriment...
Learn to be more realistic and less idealistic, and you will have less headache.
Forget about how things should be, and walk with what is. Get your brain configured to get used to your environment.
Make no mistake, I'm not saying that we should let the things that are wrong in our society go on without being challenged, but noisy generators is definitely not one of the things we should expend our energy on.
Some things just fizzle out with time.
When Nigeria's electricity problem is solved, generators, both noisy and the ones fitted with sound-proof, will die natural death without you raising a finger.
Shalom.
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| helinues: 12:03pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
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You need money.. I mean money.
Both states and federal assemblies hardly a bill without inducement
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| Auladimeji2: 12:06pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
Awol1:
There are two sides to your problem:
The first is that it seems you just returned to the country. And if that's the case, welcome to Naija.
Then second is that you could be suffering from watching too much American movies where you see people call the cops on neighbors who are playing loud music.
The govt cannot provide electricity, the generator that citizens bought to help their lives, you want it's usage regulated.
Is it everyone that can afford inverter or rechargeable fan?
If not for one thing, I would have called you stupid.
People like you are the ones that voted Buhari because you believe Nigerians need to be taught a lesson.
Honestly, you are stewpeed, So because you don't want heat to destroy you that's why you want to give people sleepless nights. If I be your neighborh and you disturb me with your useless generator,I'll call the police for you and if they fail,I will destroy your generator by pouring water mixed with enough detergent into your generator's fuel tank and I will wait for you to go and call whoever you wanna call 
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| Re: How Do You Sponsor A Bill To Your State House Of Assembly? by Nobody: 2:44pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
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| naptu2: 3:26pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
Chloride6
I got the numbers and e-mail address that I posted earlier a few years ago and I'm not sure if they are still functioning, so I went back to the LASEPA website just now and I copied a link to their complaints page. You can also try this http://www.lasepa.gov.ng/us.htm
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| Re: How Do You Sponsor A Bill To Your State House Of Assembly? by Nobody: 4:57pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
R2bees:
Damn!! Who is this guy??
He’s the ENCYCLOPEDIA of Nairaland.
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| hahn(m): 6:23pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
chloride6:
1. I do not even possess a port.
I find your pattern of thinking shallow and alarming?
A good rechargeable fan costs less than N20,000.00, far less than a generating set...
The fact that there is no light does not give you the right to run your generator all night....
You have no right to inconvenience me in a bid to solve your problems, that is not just stupid its selfish.
Imagine a situation where everyone left their generating sets all night just because of the heat.....
If you must solve your issues, don't do it at my detriment...
Why can't you be considerate and sleep in the afternoon so that people who don't want to sleep in the heat can do that in peace?
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| chloride6: 6:27pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
hahn:
Why can't you be considerate and sleep in the afternoon so that people who don't want to sleep in the heat can do that in peace?
I should be able to sleep when i please in as much as i do not inconvenience you.
Wouldn't you rather do the same?
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| Obinoscopy(m): 6:34pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
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@chloride6, don't forget give us update with how far you've gone. Well-done.
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| hahn(m): 6:40pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
chloride6:
I should be able to sleep when i please in as much as i do not inconvenience you.
Wouldn't you rather do the same?
You are inconveniencing people by insisting they inconvenience themselves by sleeping in heat at night especially in a country where the government does not supply constant power and people have to provide it for themselves.
Why don't you channel your energy into a bill that makes it compulsory for power companies to provide 24 hours electricity instead?
As someone above already mentioned generators will die a natural death
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| thatigboman: 6:41pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
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U should mandate a bill to make it compulsory for govt to give its citizens light after 11pm.
I also use inverter (my choice), don't feel bad about my neighbours using their gen
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| thatigboman: 6:45pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
Awol1:
There are two sides to your problem:
The first is that it seems you just returned to the country. And if that's the case, welcome to Naija.
Then second is that you could be suffering from watching too much American movies where you see people call the cops on neighbors who are playing loud music.
The govt cannot provide electricity, the generator that citizens bought to help their lives, you want it's usage regulated.
Is it everyone that can afford inverter or rechargeable fan?
If not for one thing, I would have called you stupid.
People like you are the ones that voted Buhari because you believe Nigerians need to be taught a lesson.
I tire o. Same thing I replied. Force govt to give u light and leave your poor neighbours alone
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| thatigboman: 6:47pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
chloride6:
1. I do not even possess a port.
I find your pattern of thinking shallow and alarming?
A good rechargeable fan costs less than N20,000.00, far less than a generating set...
The fact that there is no light does not give you the right to run your generator all night....
You have no right to inconvenience me in a bid to solve your problems, that is not just stupid its selfish.
Imagine a situation where everyone left their generating sets all night just because of the heat.....
If you must solve your issues, don't do it at my detriment...
but govt has right to inconvenience all of u, right? Think deeper
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| thatigboman: 6:48pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
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| naptu2: 7:14pm On Mar 06, 2019 |
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I see that an unnecessary argument is brewing.
Lasepa does not immediately seal the premises of defaulters. It warns and advises them.
The fact that a person does not want to sleep in heat does not mean that he should prevent his neighbour from sleeping due to the noise of his generator. There are things that can be done if people are considerate.
The person that owns the generator can have it soundproofed, like the commissioner did, or he can change the location of the generator, so that he can still use his generator without disturbing his neighbour.
Noise pollution has very serious consequences. One of the things that the commissioner talked about in that Sunrise Daily interview was the fact that they tested school kids in Lagos and a high percentage of them had one form of hearing impairment or the other and one of the causes was the high level of noise pollution in Lagos.
There are also old people (like the 79 year old woman that sued Redeemed Church), people with hypertension and people who are ill who very much need a good night's sleep, but are unable to get a good night's sleep because of noise pollution. That's why there is a law in place to tackle the problem.
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