NewStats: 3,259,565 , 8,170,525 topics. Date: Sunday, 25 May 2025 at 03:34 PM 4akv

olaolaking:
By the ways of her faith and religion, there is nothing wrong. The Orishas in Yoruba land neither against nor against going to church. If you have interest as a devotee, you are free to go and come back to your Òrìṣà and the Òrìṣà will still answer. Non of herfellow traditionalists will castigate or condemn her. It is only foreign religions that preach enmity and inclusiveness. If you as a Christian or Muslim attend any program not of your faith, your fellow believers will outcast you

Very well put. The Orishas are tolerant, its christianity that undermines, demonises and condemn our ancient spirituality and way of life of our ancestors. Ifa divination predates christianity by thousands of years. A bible that was reinterpreted, manipulated and re-written in England will NEVER convince me that Orishas are evil.

By the way, for any christians out there, if you want to read the bible that is closest to what the early christians might have read in the 4th century AD, get yourself the Ethiopian Bible. The bible most of you are carrying around was produced by King James of England in 1611, intentionally excluding books that were once part of earlier christian canons. That's why it's called King James Version, you are reading a version of a supposedly "Holy Book".

The Ethiopian Bibile included:


1.1st, 2nd and 3rd book of Maccabees
2. Tefut
3. The book of Clement
4. Didascalia
5. The Epistle of Barnabas
6. The Shepherd of Hermas
7. Joseph ben Gorion
8. 1st and 2nd book of the covenant
9. Enoch
10. Jubilees
11. Wisdom
12. Sirach
13. The Book of the mysteries of Heaven and Earth

And a whole lot of other books not included in the western (Protestant) canon.

The King James Version of the Bible was specifically interpreted to reflect certain political, religious and imperial ideologies of the early 17th-century. I bet majority of zombie pastors and GOs don’t know that. I refuse to let such book determine how I consult and serve my God. No religion has monopoly over God. Either you are a christian, muslim, traditional worshipper, agnostic or atheist etc, we are ALL a piece of God.

CaseSensitive:


Very well put. The Orishas are tolerant, its christianity that undermines, demonises and condemn our ancient spirituality and way of life of our ancestors. Ifa divination predates christianity by thousands of years. A bible that was reinterpreted, manipulated and re-written in England will NEVER convince me that Orishas are evil.

How can Òrìṣà be evil. The Israelites have alters where they made sacrifices using different kinds of animals. They have chief priest who made the sacrifices. Alter is ojubo, those priests are like babaláwos. What's the difference?

SporaD8:

Behold the beauty of religious tolerance in Yorubaland!

Fanatism, extremism and forced convertion has no root in here - Alhajis can be invited as a special guest during church harvest while pastors are welcome as guest speaker during "wahasi"

Only those who are insecure in their religious doctrines will feel threatened by a simple act of love and fellowship displayed by the woman!
Let's all live together in Harmony!

This is one area that we envy Yorubas, their level of religious tolerance is on another level.

Some of us ed the Sultan pushing for Sharia in Yoruba land out of jealousy I won't lie, so that all of us will be at the same level of religious rascality

olaolaking:
How can Òrìṣà be evil. The Israelites have alters where they made sacrifices using different kinds of animals. They have chief priest who made the sacrifices. Alter is ojubo, those priests are like babaláwos. What's the difference?

Exactly. This is for people at the back.

Fun fact: Jesus is Jew, but Jewish people don't believe in Jesus.

olaolaking:


The bold is the problem. You see every other person not a Christian as not serving God. That's intolerance.

The traditionalist don't do violence for their faith and even better.

All the attributes (self control, tolerance etc) that you mentioned are the values that our forefathers upheld and preached on the basis of morals and NOT religion. They did this far before Christianity arrived. Those attributes don't belong or originated with Christians even though they preached it. Our forefathers practiced them long time ago.

The land that the churches are built were given to the Christians by our forefathers who are Olorisas. That's religion tolerance. Christians can't do that

Most Christians don't practice what they preach.. That's Hypocrisy ..

The earth shall be filled with the Glory of God as the water covers the sea. Isaiah 6:3b

I agree with you 1000%.
Only highly oppressive, egotistic men will declare that “their” “god” is greater than that of the neighbor.
Like which God gave the orders that certain special people will have dominion and oppressive powers over another set of “inferior” people he supposedly created?

This singular notion is why religion is the biggest divider and perpetrators of violence amongst men and why wars have been fought for centuries.

SporaD8:

Come to think of it and be sincere in your answer...
Why will a Universal God(I use the word universe because we are not talking about the earth or our solar system alone) be so petty and factional as to call one set of people his chosen, only to create another set of people to be hated and hunted for sport like a Lab. Specimen?!
That can only be the imagination of a sadistic and divisive entity; not a universal, all-encoming Creator of all things whose greatest attribute is Love

CaseSensitive:

Very well put. The Orishas are tolerant, its christianity that undermines, demonises and condemn our ancient spirituality and way of life of our ancestors. Ifa divination predates christianity by thousands of years. A bible that was reinterpreted, manipulated and re-written in England will NEVER convince me that Orishas are evil.

The worshipers of these African Gods have demeaned their own Gods before their children so you can't blame their children for belittling the Gods of their ancestors.

EKITI001:
WATCH THE VIDEO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbIGyy8oinw

In a surprising display of interfaith harmony, an Osun worshipper popularly known as "Iya Osun" was spotted dancing and singing with a pastor at a crusade held at Bisi Market in Ado Ekiti on Thursday, May 22, 2025.

Despite being fully dressed in her traditional Osun attire, Iya Osun seemed to be fully immersed in the praise and prayer session, showcasing a moment of unity and shared spirituality.

The event, themed "Weep not," was organized by Praise and Prayer Winners Global Ministry, and appears to have brought people together in a celebration of faith and worship.


SOURCE: https://ekitinews247.com.ng/2025/05/22/iya-osun-proudly-s-christian-crusade-in-ekiti/

She came for annioting

Zocalite:


Christianity - Jesus Christ, is the way to eternity, any other way leads to hell.

If osun predates Christianity, now that there's Christianity she supposed to drop osun a satanic voodoo religion and embrace light and Salvation.

Why don't you drop you Mobile phone or atmcard etc and be using the old things

osun that has been around since is losing not only to Christianity even to civilization

That's the real meaning of emancipation

That's what you were told. You mean all the people that lived and died before Christianity came will go to hell, Abraham and Co were not Christian were they?

Christianity lies a lot to deceive people including me. Our eyes just open

Zocalite:


Christianity and islam are 2 parallel lines, no similarity. Am a Christian and not a fundamentalist and nothing fundamentalism in Christ

Christianity doesn't impose , even some pastors have left Christianity

I'm just trying to show you that osun may be traditional to Africa, but Christianity reveals to us eternity as a reply to your earlier comment

That's why I gave the comparison of phone invention

Everyone is free to do what suits him, that's my opinion too

Live and let's live

This show that you need to know more than you already know. You limit your knowledge to what you have been told by your religion leaders will they tell you the truth?


Let me tell you a major similarity between the two. Christianity, Jewish and Islam originated from Abraham. Have you ever been told before? I have other similarities but argue this first

Christmyhope:

Thanks my brother, you are saying the truth. I really appreciate our forefathers tolerance and self discipline in accommodating Christianity. The word "Christian" stems from the ways of life of Christ Jesus which was exhibited by the purveyor of the gospel of grace in the first century in a city called Antioch. This title was given by the people of the community because of the humility, love, endurance and peaceful manner through which the apostles propagated the message of truth. Christianity is a way of life of Christ Jesus which embodies tolerance, humility and ultimately love.
Whatever good one does in this life. If that goodness does not through channel of God's grace,it will be considered as null and void because humanity goodness is like a rag before God. It means that our efforts can not earn us being right with God because humanity as a whole is polluted with and by sin. But God's work cleans from sin and makes humanity right with him. And that God's work is Christ Jesus, the only of being right with God.
My brother, I love and respect your beliefs and that of our forefathers. But the fact is "no one can be right God" except through Christ Jesus.

If you don't accept my message. Let us live in peace and in love with one another.
Our message is through love not by sword.

You mess it up! Is Jesus himself a Christian? No! Christianity told you what you wrote. But they are not true. All the things you wrote here are your thoughts. You can engage me through and I will do my best to brake it down logically

olaolaking:
You mess it up! Is Jesus himself a Christian? No! Christianity told you what you wrote. But they are not true. All the things you wrote here are your thoughts. You can engage me through and I will do my best to brake it down logically

I respect your opinion but all what I said did happen. They are documented facts. Christianity is a way of life that pleases God. Jesus Christ lived in such manner, he was the first spiritual being after the fall of man and so he was sinless. These are the ways of life he lived to please God, his father. We that believe are commanded to follow in his examples to the glory of God. Those that follow in his steps are said to be like him who laid the examples. If we are called Christians because of Jesus Christ lived such patterns of life,then, Jesus Christ is foundation of Christianity which is the salvation for all who believe.
My brother, I love you and respect your belief but I tell you Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation for all mankind. The only channel instituted by God's himself to save all humanity. God bless you

Christmyhope:

I respect your opinion but all what I said did happen. They are documented facts. Christianity is a way of life that pleases God. Jesus Christ lived in such manner, he was the first spiritual being after the fall of man and so he was sinless. These are the ways of life he lived to please God, his father. We that believe are commanded to follow in his examples to the glory of God. Those that follow in his steps are said to be like him who laid the examples. If we are called Christians because of Jesus Christ lived such patterns of life,then, Jesus Christ is foundation of Christianity which is the salvation for all who believe.
My brother, I love you and respect your belief but I tell you [b]Jesus Christ is the only way to salvation for all mankind. The only channel instituted by God's himself to save all humanity. [/b]God bless you

This is not true and the only reference to this as claim is documented is the Bible.

The Bible itself has some few issues here and there.

The Bible is Taylored to favor Christianity belief. More than 20 books of the scriptures are not included in the Bible. E get Y.

God didn't create any religion. Ẹ never approved any religion and religion is not the only way to God. Humanity is the way to please God. There are things that God want from men. Meeting those requirements will make one get approval from God irrespective of one's religion.

olaolaking:
This is not true and the only reference to this as claim is documented is the Bible.

The Bible itself has some few issues here and there.

The Bible is Taylored to favor Christianity belief. More than 20 books of the scriptures are not included in the Bible. E get Y.

God didn't create any religion. Ẹ never approved any religion and religion is not the only way to God. Humanity is the way to please God. There are things that God want from men. Meeting those requirements will make one get approval from God irrespective of one's religion.

My brother, I appreciate you for your audience and I pray that God in his infinite mercy will continue to provide for your needs in areas regarding the truth knowledge of God himself.
I never said Christianity is a religion but a way of life that makes an individual right with God which Jesus Christ lived and those who believe are commanded to follow in his steps.
God never created religion nor is Christianity a religion but God has a way of existence and that existence is righteousness and holiness.
Humanity righteousness is like a rag before God because it is stained with sin and evil tendencies. God in his mercy gave us a way of his own righteousness which is Christ Jesus.
Jesus Christ existence and ways of life is documented and historical facts. These can seen and read in many non-christian books.
These books are:
Tacitus:
In his Annals, Tacitus references Jesus as the founder of the Christian sect and his execution by Pontius Pilate.

The Jewish historian Josephus mentions Jesus in his work, Jewish Antiquities, describing him as a wise man and leader who performed miracles and was crucified.

Babylonian Talmud:
This collection of post-biblical Jewish writings includes references to Jesus, sometimes with negative or critical commentary.

Other sources:
Pliny the Younger, Mara bar-Serapion, and Lucian of Samosata also offer insights into early Christians and their beliefs, although their references may not be as direct as those of Tacitus or Josephus.
These are books outside Christianity that talk about historicity Jesus Christ.
The first two books lived in the same century as Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ is our only hope, come to him now before it is too late. Thanks 🙏

olaolaking:
That's what you were told. You mean all the people that lived and died before Christianity came will go to hell, Abraham and Co were not Christian were they?

Christianity lies a lot to deceive people including me. Our eyes just open

Which religion are you doing now?

That open your eyes

Zocalite:


Which religion are you doing now?

That open your eyes

No religion. Experience and history matter. The history of the is important! Religion is twisting the fact

olaolaking:
No religion. Experience and history matter. The history of the is important! Religion is twisting the fact

Oh that's good.

But you can read Romans chapter 1 at your spare time.

Stay blessed

O daabo

Zocalite:


Oh that's good.

But you can read Romans chapter 1 at your spare time.

Stay blessed

O daabo

You are still referring me to your religious book as a reference. Do you believe in the holy Quran? So will you trust me if I refer you to a verse in the Quran?