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naptu2: 8:04am On May 22
ChybuzzDD made a very funny post.

I find it very funny and highly entertaining when people try to deny something that is easily verifiable. I included links in my last post, but the bot hid them.

I have now added screenshots in the original post. There are very many more, but Nairaland only allows me to post 4 screenshots.

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nairalanda1(m): 8:06am On May 22
babyboy4every1:

Is there freedom of speech in Nigeria? Dey play.

Oh yes there is, compared to army rule.

Write an article saying army rulers are bad, get the newspaper house closed down...for months.

Infact, some newspapers had to print their copies outside Nigeria and smuggle it in eg Tempo news.

Or you want tinubu to be like traore. Say that government is doing nothing agianst boko....get deployed to fight that boko.

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Bunnatex(m): 8:07am On May 22
Axis313:
People that celebrated the coup and wish the same on Nigeria are those that have never experienced military rule in their lives.
The freedom of speech they are experiencing now will not exist,nobody will be able to criticize the government in power,any opinion that contradict the military own may lead to arrest,even social media activities will be regulated if not banned.
So be careful what you wish for.

I can hardly tell the difference

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Godsonkemz(m): 8:18am On May 22
Most African nations like ours needs this

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ChybuzzDD(m): 8:18am On May 22
naptu2:
ChybuzzDD made a very funny post.

I find it very funny and highly entertaining when people try to deny something that is easily verifiable. I included links in my last post, but the bot hid them.

I have now added screenshots in the original post. There are very many more, but Nairaland only allows me to post 4 screenshots.

You're still getting it wrong.

Their roles in announcing the news, as many bloggers do, are still different from those of the Pro-Russian groups which are both propagating and encouraging, if not sponsoring, the coup

One of the Biafran group was even calling on the West to sit up. How's that a problem to you?

Why didn't you pick on the Russian groups?

And for your brothers from the sw who have marshalled out as usual to spew their ha te, i didn't see any of the Biafrann group call for coup in Nigeria
naptu2: 8:22am On May 22
ChybuzzDD:


You're still getting it wrong.

Their roles in announcing the news, as many bloggers do, are still different from those of the Pro-Russian groups which are both propagating and encouraging, if not sponsoring, the coup

One of the Biafran group was even calling on the West to sit up. How's that a problem to you?

Why didn't you pick on the Russian groups?

And for your brothers from the sw who have marshalled out as usual to spew their ha te, i didn't see any of the Biafrann group call for coup in Nigeria

You wrote falsehood and instead of itting it you posted the crap above.

I created this thread and I wrote about the Russian groups that you mentioned.

I wrote that many Biafran groups also spread the rumour and what I wrote is true.

Everything I wrote is true and nothing that you wrote is true.

I deal with facts, not sentiments.

I won't read your post again because you deal in sentiments not facts.

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naptu2: 8:22am On May 22
I will block that guy before the end of today.
naptu2: 8:25am On May 22
Why didn't he complain when I wrote about Russians and why didn't he say that I am a bi got because I wrote about Russians? Why didn't he say that Russians are just blogging?

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Tolu2024(f): 8:35am On May 22
Yeah
Every bad thing that happens in Africa the west always Russia 🇷🇺 even after using Africans as slave them blame Russia,

If Africans speak up them blame Russia but they forget almost all the junta coup leaders are all USA trained soldiers, even when they caught 3 USA coup plotters they still blame Russia .

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ChybuzzDD(m): 8:37am On May 22
naptu2:


You wrote falsehood and instead of itting it you posted the crap above.

I created this thread and I wrote about the Russian groups that you mentioned.

I wrote that many Biafran groups also spread the rumour and what I wrote is true.

Everything I wrote is true and nothing that you wrote is true.

I deal with facts, not sentiments.

I won't read your post again because you deal in sentiments not facts.

Someone who deals on facts wouldn't leave Pro-Russian groups that were specifically mentioned in the article he posted, and Russia itself that has been implicated in ing and sponsoring these coup, and focus on pro-biafran groups he and his people detest so much.

You mentioned the Biafran groups just to get and 'likes' from your people who usually scan posts for such names, and you actually got it.

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seunjungle1(m): 8:41am On May 22
These ones were not born during Abacha reign.
Abacha was just evil...it was unrest throughout his 5years reign in southwest.
erniok(m): 8:41am On May 22
ChybuzzDD:


Someone who deals on facts wouldn't leave Pro-Russian groups that were specifically mentioned in the article he posted, and Russia itself that has been implicated in ing and sponsoring these coup, and focus on pro-biafran groups he and his people detest so much.

You mentioned the Biafran groups just to get and 'likes' from your people who usually scan posts for such names, and you actually got it.
Oga rest or you go explain tireand finally rest.
naptu2: 8:42am On May 22
naptu2:
I will block that guy before the end of today.

ChybuzzDD thinks that I am going to read his post. Isn't that funny?

grin
Guyman02: 9:42am On May 22
naptu2:
Some rumour mongers claim that the president has been captured while others claim that he fled. There have also been claims that the chief of defence staff is dead.

All these claims are not true.

The people that are backing this campaign have been calling for coups in Nigeria, Ghana, the Ivory Coast and other West African countries. They have also been promoting the military dictatorships in Mali, Burkina Faso and Niger.

The rumours are also being spread by some pro-Biafra groups.
You are also spreading propaganda and misinformation by mentioning pro Biafra groups as being behind the coup scare but you can't hide the disenchantment among Ivorians who feel that their country is led by a Western puppet who had to change the constitution illegally to extend his presidency after completing 2 and turning Ivory Coast into an AFRICOM base, stopping the ECOWAS currency ECO on the directive of , Ouattara leadership is already doomed and unpopular across Africa.

He has turned Ivory Coast into a staging post for imperialists spreading and sponsorship of terrorism across Subsahara Africa

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Bloomsvilledgit(m): 9:49am On May 22
I read comments here and I just shake my head. So many foolishness going on here.

Democracy itself is devilish. It's straight from the pit of hell. How can a government make so much development and another government comes on board and destroy the development of the other government. Is that not satanic. Look at all the countries practising democracy, none of them are making waves. The USA that is the father of democracy is dying.

The earlier Africans do away with democracy the better.

Look at Nigeria for instance, APC has taken us back to 1970. What kind of madness is that.

Most of you here are spewing nonsense.

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naptu2: 9:59am On May 22
Biafran groups also spread the rumours.

That was my statememt.

Is this statement correct? Yes, it is a fact.

Anybody can use Google, Twitter, Facebook and other search engines and see that it is a fact.

Guyman02 and ChybuzzDD are wasting their time, I report facts and everybody can see that it's a fact.

All their stories are simply a waste of time. Nothing that they do will change facts.

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nairalanda1(m): 11:18am On May 22
Bloomsvilledgit:
I read comments here and I just shake my head. So many foolishness going on here.

Democracy itself is devilish. It's straight from the pit of hell. How can a government make so much development and another government comes on board and destroy the development of the other government. Is that not satanic. Look at all the countries practising democracy, none of them are making waves. The USA that is the father of democracy is dying.

The earlier Africans do away with democracy the better.

Look at Nigeria for instance, APC has taken us back to 1970. What kind of madness is that.

Most of you here are spewing nonsense.


The problem is, whenever we do away with democracy, we always end up begging for it within the next five to seven years.

In 1966, we removed the civillians. By 1974, when Gowon told us that we were not ready for civillian rule, after initially promising a return in that year, Nigerians got really angry. At the end, Murtala came in and before he was assasinated announced a programme for return to civillian rule by 1979. He knew that if he didn't, Nigerians will chase him out.

Also, that was one of the sly ways IBB got initially. He was not like Buhari who refused to return or announce a return to civillan rule.

As for whether Nigeria has been good, the fact is, Nigeria has never been good. When you run a resource dependent economy based on one source of income, the majority always suffer.

And army rule has not left Africa developed or better in any way. We were always broke at the end of it. I could say the same for civillian rule...especially since I think that all our civillian rulers were awful. and the current regime is bad self. But the thing is, Traore is doing the same thing his predecessors did. He is just using propaganda. And if tinubu gets removed, the new army ruler would do the same thing.

Because developing a nation means hardship and more hardship. The only army ruler worldwide who developed his country was General Park of South Korea. And he did it the hard way. He was a harsh ruler and he made his country work hard. No African leader is going to take power with that kind of rhetoric. (Park ended up being assasinated as his thank you for good service.).

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nairalanda1(m): 11:23am On May 22
Godsonkemz:
Most African nations like ours needs this

All African nations that had coups...the end has always been one man dictatorships that were even harsher than civillian rule, or transition to democracy. None of them left their nation better than it was....none of them took their nation from third world to first world.

The army boys come from the same mix as the civillian boys. They do the same thing...be it western backed or antiwestern backed. They use propaganda to mask the fact that they do the same thing.

At least civillan rule...there is relative freedom compared to army rule. Many of the articles printed about our civillan rulers since 1999 in the media...if they printed them under army rule, the offending news publication would have been shut down for months on end, and the journalist would have been jailed incommunicado in DSS' underground cell.

Nnamdi Kanu , our most celebrated political prisioner , has access to his lawyers, doctors, even gets visitiors self. Under civillian rule. Abiola under army rule...had none of that.

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naptu2: 11:26am On May 22
"Democracy is the worst form of government. . .until you try others" - Winston Churchill.

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Axis313(m): 12:07pm On May 22
nairalanda1:


Oh yes there is, compared to army rule.

Write an article saying army rulers are bad, get the newspaper house closed down...for months.

Infact, some newspapers had to print their copies outside Nigeria and smuggle it in eg Tempo news.

Or you want tinubu to be like traore. Say that government is doing nothing agianst boko....get deployed to fight that boko.
No mind am,person wey dem born yesterday na him come dey argue say military government better democraic government.
lordm(m): 1:39pm On May 22
Axis313:
But some enemies of democracy have created threads celebrating the "coup" and calling for the same to happen in Nigeria.
I am still baffled how some people can hate their country to the extent of openly calling for military to take over.
call their names. They lost election
naptu2: 2:37pm On May 22
Where did those videos come from?

The issue of succession is one of the biggest problems of dictatorships. When will the tenure end? Who will take over afterwards? These questions are never fully answered and this always leads to a power struggle.

Felix Houphouet Boigny was president of the Ivory Coast from independence in 1960 till his death in 1993. I listened to him on the BBC when he ssid that he wasn't going to hand over to anyone because he was a chief in his village and by their tradition, a chief does not see his successor.

There was a power struggle between Allasane Ouattara and Henry Konan Bedie after Boigny died. Bedie won and was president till 1999 when there was a coup.

Basically, Ivory Coast suffered serious instability in the 2000s. There were 2 civil wars, presidents that lost elections but refused to accept the results, military rule, etc. Most of the videos that are being circulated are from that time.

In fact, some people are circulating the video of the arrest of Laurent Gbagbo and claiming that it was President Ouattara that was arrested.

There was no coup in the Ivory Coast, it's just a rumour that was manufactured by some people.

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Konquest: 4:27pm On May 22
naptu2:
In recent weeks there has been a campaign to promote military coups across West Africa. Some analysts believe that this social media campaign is being sponsored by Russia. The Russians have denied that they have anything to do with it.

Rumours of a coup in the Ivory Coast have been spread on social media in the past 2 days. Despite the fact that people living in Abidjan have said that there is no coup, the rumour mongers have posted videos of street battles in other places and claimed that they are videos of Abidjan. They also claim that President Alassane Outtara has fled, despite the fact that the president actually attended a cabinet meeting yesterday.

The rumours began in Ghana and spread to Nigeria.


This post has been translated from French by Google

Abidjan Post @AbidjanPost225



https://x.com/Abidjanpost225/status/1925308160782340145?t=7TG6unJ02fARmdqAdbO-AA&s=19

Succinctly stated.
Arielle: 4:47pm On May 22
RockHard:
What's happening is being well choreographed by Russia to lure gullible Africans into destabilizing their own countries to weaken them enough to become its puppets.

It's reminiscent of similar tactics used by foreign powers during the 50s and 60s (particularly the 60s) to radicalize young Africans in the military into seizing power from democratically elected governments.

In the case of Nigeria, what we're currently witnessing is similar to the propaganda that preceded and was used to recruit, motivate and mobilize the likes of Kaduna Nzeogwu into executing the coup that eventually triggered and culminated in the devastating Biafra civil war. Nigeria is still yet to recover from the consequences of those events.

Unfortunately, it seems the younger generation of Africans are too naive to understand that they're mere pawns in a high stakes game of chess of geopolitical proportions.
"Democratically elected governments"? You're too daft to be believed.

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Arielle: 5:01pm On May 22
Bloomsvilledgit:
I read comments here and I just shake my head. So many foolishness going on here.

Democracy itself is devilish. It's straight from the pit of hell. How can a government make so much development and another government comes on board and destroy the development of the other government. Is that not satanic. Look at all the countries practising democracy, none of them are making waves. The USA that is the father of democracy is dying.

The earlier Africans do away with democracy the better.

Look at Nigeria for instance, APC has taken us back to 1970. What kind of madness is that.

Most of you here are spewing nonsense.
Thank you. They're terrified that their bread and butter will be stopped. Democracy is a bad joke. Politicians are the worst misfortune that has befallen Nigeria. We have been taken back several decades and whatever values we had have been completely erroded by these evil, thieving demons and their underlings. But the time is coming. And it will come. It is either we find a system that actually works, with competent LEADERS, who will move this country forward, to the benefit of ALL, or we rip it all apart and everyone can go their own way. We cannot guaratee a future for the young ones in this country, yet some imps want us to pretend like all is well.

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RockHard: 5:36pm On May 22
Arielle:

"Democratically elected governments"? You're too daft to be believed.

Yes. You heard that right. It's not until your preferred candidate (perhaps the one that probably came third during the last presidential election?) wins an election before it can be deemed credible enough to validate democracy's superiority over military rule.

The current/sitting president went through the worst campaign of calumnyfrom the opposition yet still won that election. If he could do it then there's still hope for your preferred candidate. Advice your candidate to build more bridges and try next time.

Trying to gain power through the backdoor via military intervention can't happen again in Nigeria.

Any military coup in today's Nigeria would only lead to a rehashing of 1966 or even worse because the people are more aware. Therefore you're left with no choice than to go back to the drawing board and plan for the next election.

Or better still, relocate to Burkina Faso where you can enjoy military rule.
showwiggy: 6:03pm On May 22
Topsoul147:
can you criticize the democratic government without getting arrested


How many of you keyboard warriors typing and propagating fake news and various abuses have they arrested?
naptu2: 6:05pm On May 22
People are posting all kinds of things on Nairaland and calling for military rule.

Isn't that funny?

Do they think that they would have been able to post the things that they are currently posting if we were under military rule? Do they know what would have happened to them?

Anyway, to many Nigerians the grass is always greener on the other side. Everything is always better than what they are going through. Military rule will always be better than democracy when they are in a democracy and democracy will be better than military rule when they are under military rule.

They can't see farther than today.

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