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If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? (3693 Views)
Truthseeker10: 5:05pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:πππππbaba come back here oo...no run....give us specific bible verses of Jesus's statement that were easy to . 1 Like 1 Share |
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:11pm On May 18 |
QuinQ: *Michael is an angel so now that he's an human he can't bear the same name and the meaning of Jesus is Jehovah is Salvation. *Michael is not fitting because now he is the Christ who will replace Adam as our father. Adam is the father who transfered sin and death to all humans but we now have another father who will transfer live to everlasting life to all those who accepts him as teacher. *He told his disciples that they can't bear all the information but holy Spirit will TEACH them the rest they need to know. John 16:12-13 1 Like |
QuinQ: 5:23pm On May 18 |
MaxInDHouse: * What's wrong with Michael? * This your obsession with Adam. Next now will be Moses. Christ wilfully did not sinless. Adam didn't know the difference between sin and not-sin *He told His disciples He was the son of God and that JohnTB was Elijah. They could handle that but not Michael? 1 Like |
Truthseeker10: 5:26pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:You mean that Adam did not know that eating from the tree was a sin? 1 Like |
MaxInDHouse(m): 5:30pm On May 18 |
QuinQ: *Name as a spirit being. *Adam was born (created) sinless that's what makes him greater than all humans. The sin Adam committed got all his descendants into sin {Romans 5:12} so only a perfect and sinless soul like Adam can redeem mankind from what Adam brought upon mankind that's why said John the sandals of this person he is unfit to untie. Only Adam and Jesus were perfect humans. *A perfect Son of God just like Adam! Luke 3:38 1 Like |
QuinQ: 6:32pm On May 18 |
Truthseeker10: He didn't have notion of sin. He was incapable of it. All he knew was that God told him not to eat it and if he ate it he'd die. I doubt he fully comprehended what "die" implied |
Truthseeker10: 6:42pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:So Adam did not know that eating from the tree was a sin or was bad? |
QuinQ: 6:42pm On May 18 |
MaxInDHouse: *People are named Michael today *There is a huge difference between knowing the difference between good and bad and CHOOSING to do good, and not knowing the difference at all to start with *My friend, Angel Michael was not Jesus. Stop disgracing yourself and making me little angry. Michael was a servant, a messenger. That's all. Hence the Devil told Jesus His Father would send His angels (Michael) to make sure His toe did not strike upon a rock (if He threw Himself down) |
Truthseeker10: 6:46pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:In what verse did Michael appear to be the one to save Jesus? |
QuinQ: 7:14pm On May 18 |
Truthseeker10: Another dumb question. It says it right there in your Bible that until he ate the fruit, he didn't know the difference between good and evil - didn't even know he was naked, just like a lower animal |
QuinQ: 7:19pm On May 18 |
Truthseeker10: I told you to leave this discussion alone as it is above you. Mathew 4: 5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, 6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. |
Truthseeker10: 7:54pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:So where is Michael mentioned? |
Truthseeker10: 7:56pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:πππso your God was telling someone with an animal brain to obey him? |
MaxInDHouse(m): 8:08pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:α»mα» Jesus is the same Archangel Michael who was transformed into an embryo in the womb of Mary so if you disagree it's OK but that's the truth! ![]() |
Janosky: 8:18pm On May 18 |
QuinQ: At no time did any Trinitarian mouth your claim. QuinQ is even claiming that Michael is many angels. Before king James Bible was printed,As far back as before 1599, your fellow Trinitarians have been teaching that Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. Read Daniel 10:13 & 12:1 in the Geneva Bible & confirm. ![]() ![]()
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QuinQ: 8:34pm On May 18 |
MaxInDHouse: So when Jesus asked His disciples who He was, why didn't Peter who answered correctly say Angel Michael? Truthseeker10: It is beyond human capacity to grasp the full nature of God Truthseeker10: Who said animal BRAIN?? He was like an innocent child Truthseeker10: You are master of dumb questions "His angels" include Michael Janosky: And that's exactly why you CAN'T understand Him. He said he and the Father are one, yet to you they are two not one Janosky: So you don't believe there are other dimensions. So where is the spiritual world and how come you can't see or feel it? Can someone living in a two dimensional world describe dimensional world? |
Truthseeker10: 8:35pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:You mean Michael and all the angels in heaven?πππ These were your words about Adam below in bold. he didn't know the difference between good and evil - didn't even know he was naked, just like a lower animal |
MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41pm On May 18 |
QuinQ: Archangel and only begotten Son of God means the same thing. So Peter is right! ![]() 1 Like |
QuinQ: 8:44pm On May 18 |
Janosky: Who told you I'm a "Trinitarian"? You should have asked them why Peter did not answer that Jesus was angel Michael |
Janosky: 8:44pm On May 18 |
Ruke1991:Phillipians 2:6 Bill mounce Greek interlinear is very different from ANY Trinitarian rendition you think of. Screenshot evidence: "Christ did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped." Paul the apostle @Phil 2:6 s 1 Corinthians 11:3 & Jesus teaching of John 14:28 which is in conflicting against Trinitarian rendition of Phil 2:6. Oga, you are doing the same thing you make accusations against. ![]()
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QuinQ: 8:48pm On May 18 |
MaxInDHouse: So God had seven ONLY begotten sons
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QuinQ: 8:51pm On May 18 |
Truthseeker10: Just like amimals don't know they are naked - doesn't mean he had animal BRAIN!! |
Janosky: 8:53pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:Job 1:6 , Job 2:1, angel meaning son of God. Jesus Christ is an angel,son of God. @ John 5:28, Jesus Christ is doing the work of archangel Michael @Daniel 12:2. He quoted John 5:28 from Daniel 12:2. @ Genesis 3:15 We read of the Serpent as well as the Seed who defeated the serpent. John the apostle revealed their identity @ Revelation 12:7-9 & 1st John 3:8. IYKYK ![]() ![]() |
QuinQ: 8:57pm On May 18 |
Janosky: Ok, so there are seven ONLY begotten son of God since there are 7 archangels 1 Like |
MaxInDHouse(m): 8:57pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:Apart from Michael please quote a verse where another is called Archangel? ![]() |
Janosky: 9:00pm On May 18 |
QuinQ: Archangel is singular ,ONLY one not multiple. 1 Like 1 Share |
Janosky: 9:05pm On May 18 |
MaxInDHouse: ONLY archangel Michael is stated in the holy Bible. 1 Like 1 Share |
MaxInDHouse(m): 9:07pm On May 18 |
Janosky:Wait nah, why are you in a hurry? Our teacher may surprise you o! ![]() 1 Like |
QuinQ: 9:14pm On May 18 |
MaxInDHouse: Do you think "archangel" is Hebrew or Greek? You obviously don't know the meaning of "archangel" which is a compound word |
QuinQ: 9:15pm On May 18 |
Janosky: Define archangel and show source of your definition. And also tell us why Peter didn't yell "archangel!" 1 Like |
MaxInDHouse(m): 9:24pm On May 18 |
QuinQ: Angels are God's spirit sons He calls them "Morning Stars" {Job 38:7} only one is called "Archangel" {Jude 9} and only one angel is called "Bright Morning Star" Revelations 22:16 So if only one angel is called Archangel and head of all loyal heavenly armies {Revelations 12:7} just as Jesus also has his angels {Matthew 25:31} and Jesus is called the "Bright Morning Star" {Revelations 22:16} while all other angels are called "Morning Stars" surely it's this same person that is the only Archangel among others! Daniel 12:1 Your grievances can't change anything so it's either you agree or disagree! ![]() 1 Like |
Janosky: 10:12pm On May 18 |
QuinQ:Oga, did Peter the apostle ever make reference to archangel in any of the verses of the holy Bible? I won't make conjectures about Peter's mind. ![]() QuinQ:Greek lexicon 743 arxΓ‘ggelos (from 758 /Γ‘rxΕn, "of the first order, chief" and 32 /Γ‘ggelos, "angel" ![]() Screenshot evidence with Bible references: Strong's Exhaustive Concordance 1 Like 1 Share |
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