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QuinQ:


Here is the RELEVANT part of the quote. Focus on that. Bye bye!

No one takes my life away from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again.

No run oo...come back and explain.
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Explain the bolded below.
King James Bible
No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father

Explain luke 23:46 and Acts 2:32, 33.

Emusan:


I guess you meant "EXCEPT" here!

What do you mean by this statement?



Jesus never said in "He is God" but all the criteria that made God to be God was used for Jesus.

For example!

John 1:1 says "The Word was God"
John 1:3 says "Without The Word NOTHING was Created that have been CREATED" Which means Jesus isn't part of creation.
Phil 2:6 made it clear that "Jesus EXISTS IN THE NATURE OF GOD and He is EQUAL TO GOD"
LASTLY, Jesus Himself said in John 5:23 "so that everyone will honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. Anyone who does not honor the Son is certainly not honoring the Father who sent him."



You can highlight the lies in my post.

So the criteria according to you that made God to be God are
1. The word was God
2. God used the word to create all things
3. Jesus having the nature of God
4. Honor the son as you honor the Father

Here is your first lie, none of this is what makes God God.

The only truth you wrote is that Jesus never said He is God.

You said I should highlight your lies

John 1:1 Kai theos en ho logos
theos there is not object, but is now the subject.

In John 1:1 John is revealing the source of the word, the logos which is revelation. So in the beginning was the revelation and that revelation was with God... And then John us was the revelation was about. God was the revelation. God was what the word was about. And that's why I say the word was God's word about God. Was being used there is an imperfect verb meaning you can't change it to mean God is the word.

Verse 2 speaks about Jesus being with God in the beginning.

So the revelation was with God and Jesus was with God in the beginning and through Jesus all that was made was made. Which clearly means Jesus was the the means God used to create.

You lie because you fail to realize that Jesus is the foundation of the world, the very being God used to hold the world together like the foundation that holds a house.

Phil. 2.6 who being in God's form did not consider equality with God something to be desired or grasped but instead, verse 7, took himself as a servant. You can lie or believe a misinterpretion and lie against a verse but it doesn't change that Jesus was and is humble and didn't consider himself to be God nor equal to God.

John 5:23 is not the beginning of a sentence
John.5.22-23 And the Father leaves all judgment to his Son, so that everyone will honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. But if you refuse to honor the Son, then you are certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.

Does this mean that the son is equal to the Father, you would have to be a deliberate and wicked liar to say it does. When it clearly shows that the honor of being the judge is given to the son, that is God has granted that honor to Jesus by making it that the honor that would come to the judge would go to the Jesus whom he has appointed as the judge. So just as we would have honor God as judge, we should honor the son as judge appointed by God.

It doesn't say honor Jesus as God. One of the duties of an anointed king, the Messiah is to judge. That's why in revelation Jesus is honored and praised for redeeming us and declaring God's judgement upon the world.

gohf:
So the criteria according to you that made God to be God are
1. The word was God
2. God used the word to create all things
3. Jesus having the nature of God
4. Honor the son as you honor the Father

Here is your first lie, none of this is what makes God God.

So the NATURE OF GOD DOESN'T MAKE GOD TO BE GOD, then what make God to be God?

The only truth you wrote is that Jesus never said He is God.

Good which means I can say the truth.

You said I should highlight your lies

John 1:1 Kai theos en ho logos
theos there is not object, but is now the subject.

In John 1:1 John is revealing the source of the word, the logos which is revelation. So in the beginning was the revelation and that revelation was with God... And then John us was the revelation was about. God was the revelation. God was what the word was about. And that's why I say the word was God's word about God. Was being used there is an imperfect verb meaning you can't change it to mean God is the word.

Verse 2 speaks about Jesus being with God in the beginning.

So the revelation was with God and Jesus was with God in the beginning and through Jesus all that was made was made. Which clearly means Jesus was the the means God used to create.

You lie because you fail to realize that Jesus is the foundation of the world, the very being God used to hold the world together like the foundation that holds a house.

@color-red: Re-read what you wrote again and again to see it doesn't make any sense.

@color-blue: It's good as you acknowledge the usage of the imperfect verb "WAS" as being used.

The intent of the author is to convey the NATURE of the WORD. So, God is the Word will be wrong but THE WORD WAS GOD which is about NATURE.

Any interpretation other than this is fraudulent.

Also, I like how you also acknowledge that Jesus was the foundation of the CREATION which means He wasn't CREATED.

Which means Jesus is God because Only God is UNCREATED.

Phil. 2.6 who being in God's form did not consider equality with God something to be desired or grasped but instead, verse 7, took himself as a servant. You can lie or believe a misinterpretion and lie against a verse but it doesn't change that Jesus was and is humble and didn't consider himself to be God nor equal to God.

One thing very astonish about you people when it comes to this verse is lack of simple comprehension or basic English.

This verse is the one that boldly says JESUS IS EQUAL TO GOD but IT DIDN'T CONSIDER THIS EQUALITY SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN BY FORCE because He already HAS IT then HUMBLED HIMSELF.

Below is how @grok explained it.

The challenge for you is to look for a good English teacher who is neither a Christian nor familiar with Bible, give the person this verse to explain what it means to you. Then come and gist me.

Also, the fact that this verse equivocally says Jesus HAVING "THE FORM(NATURE) OF GOD" shows Jesus is God which the author later affirmed.

John 5:23 is not the beginning of a sentence
John.5.22-23 And the Father leaves all judgment to his Son, so that everyone will honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. But if you refuse to honor the Son, then you are certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.

Does this mean that the son is equal to the Father, you would have to be a deliberate and wicked liar to say it does. When it clearly shows that the honor of being the judge is given to the son, that is God has granted that honor to Jesus by making it that the honor that would come to the judge would go to the Jesus whom he has appointed as the judge. So just as we would have honor God as judge, we should honor the son as judge appointed by God.

It doesn't say honor Jesus as God. One of the duties of an anointed king, the Messiah is to judge. That's why in revelation Jesus is honored and praised for redeeming us and declaring God's judgement upon the world.

Read the two @color-red side by side to see how illogical it sounds.

If The Son isn't EQUAL TO THE FATHER he can't say people should HONOR HIM JUST AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER.

The assignment for you here, walk to any person you know is older than you and respect your dad/mum in your area and tell the person "Sir/Ma, I want you to be respecting me JUST AS you do respect my dad/mum"

Let's see how the person will react.

Or better still, let any guy you're older than ask you to be respecting him JUST AS you do respect his mum/dad, if you will not beat hell out of the person.

gohf:
So the criteria according to you that made God to be God are
1. The word was God
2. God used the word to create all things
3. Jesus having the nature of God
4. Honor the son as you honor the Father

Here is your first lie, none of this is what makes God God.

So the NATURE OF GOD DOESN'T MAKE GOD TO BE GOD, then what make God to be God?

The only truth you wrote is that Jesus never said He is God.

Good which means I can say the truth.

You said I should highlight your lies

John 1:1 Kai theos en ho logos
theos there is not object, but is now the subject.

In John 1:1 John is revealing the source of the word, the logos which is revelation. So in the beginning was the revelation and that revelation was with God... And then John us was the revelation was about. God was the revelation. God was what the word was about. And that's why I say the word was God's word about God. Was being used there is an imperfect verb meaning you can't change it to mean God is the word.

Verse 2 speaks about Jesus being with God in the beginning.

So the revelation was with God and Jesus was with God in the beginning and through Jesus all that was made was made. Which clearly means Jesus was the the means God used to create.

You lie because you fail to realize that Jesus is the foundation of the world, the very being God used to hold the world together like the foundation that holds a house.

@color-red: Re-read what you wrote again and again to see it doesn't make any sense.

@color-blue: It's good as you acknowledge the usage of the imperfect verb "WAS" as being used.

The intent of the author is to convey the NATURE of the WORD. So, God is the Word will be wrong but THE WORD WAS GOD which is about NATURE.

Any interpretation other than this is fraudulent.

Also, I like how you also acknowledge that Jesus was the foundation of the CREATION which means He wasn't CREATED.

Which means Jesus is God because Only God is UNCREATED.

Phil. 2.6 who being in God's form did not consider equality with God something to be desired or grasped but instead, verse 7, took himself as a servant. You can lie or believe a misinterpretion and lie against a verse but it doesn't change that Jesus was and is humble and didn't consider himself to be God nor equal to God.

One thing very astonish about you people when it comes to this verse is lack of simple comprehension or basic English.

This verse is the one that boldly says JESUS IS EQUAL TO GOD but IT DIDN'T CONSIDER THIS EQUALITY SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN BY FORCE because He already HAS IT then HUMBLED HIMSELF.

Below is how @grok explained it.

The challenge for you is to look for a good English teacher who is neither a Christian nor familiar with Bible, give the person this verse to explain what it means to you. Then come and gist me.

Also, the fact that this verse equivocally says Jesus HAVING "THE FORM(NATURE) OF GOD" shows Jesus is God which the author later affirmed.

John 5:23 is not the beginning of a sentence
John.5.22-23 And the Father leaves all judgment to his Son, so that everyone will honor the Son, JUST AS they honor the Father. But if you refuse to honor the Son, then you are certainly not honoring the Father who sent him.

Does this mean that the son is equal to the Father, you would have to be a deliberate and wicked liar to say it does. When it clearly shows that the honor of being the judge is given to the son, that is God has granted that honor to Jesus by making it that the honor that would come to the judge would go to the Jesus whom he has appointed as the judge. So just as we would have honor God as judge, we should honor the son as judge appointed by God.

It doesn't say honor Jesus as God. One of the duties of an anointed king, the Messiah is to judge. That's why in revelation Jesus is honored and praised for redeeming us and declaring God's judgement upon the world.

Read the two @color-red side by side to how logical it sounds.

If The Son isn't EQUAL TO THE FATHER he can't say people should HONOR HIM JUST AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER.

The assignment for you here, walk to any person you know is older than you and respect your dad/mum in your area and tell the person "Sir/Ma, I want you to be respecting me JUST AS you do respect my dad/mum"

Let's see how the person will react.

Or better still, let any guy you're older than ask you to be respecting him JUST AS you do respect his mum/dad, if you will not beat hell out of the person.

Emusan:


So the NATURE OF GOD DOESN'T MAKE GOD TO BE GOD, then what make God to be God?



Good which means I can say the truth.



@color-red: Re-read what you wrote again and again to see it doesn't make any sense.

@color-blue: It's good as you acknowledge the usage of the imperfect verse "WAS" as being used.

The intent of the author is to convey the NATURE of the WORD. So, God is the Word will be wrong but THE WORD WAS GOD which is about NATURE.

Any interpretation other than this is fraudulent.

Also, I like how you also acknowledge that Jesus was the foundation of the CREATION which means He wasn't CREATED.

Which means Jesus is God because Only God is UNCREATED.



One thing very astonish about you people when it comes to this verse is lack of simple comprehension or basic English.

This verse is the one that boldly says JESUS IS EQUAL TO GOD but IT DIDN'T CONSIDER THIS EQUALITY SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN BY FORCE because He already HAS IT then HUMBLED HIMSELF.

Below is how @grok explained it.

The challenge for you is to look for a good English teacher who is neither a Christian nor familiar with Bible, give the person this verse to explain what it means to you. Then come and gist me.

Also, the fact that this verse equivocally says Jesus HAVING "THE FORM(NATURE) OF GOD" shows Jesus is God which the author later affirmed.



Read the two @color-red side by side to how logical it sounds.

If The Song isn't EQUAL TO THE FATHER he can't say people should HONOR HIM JUST AS THEY HONOR THE FATHER.

The assignment for you here, walk to any person you know is older than you and respect your dad/mum in your area and tell the person "Sir/Ma, I want you to be respecting me JUST AS you do respect my dad/mum"

Let's see how the person will react.

Or better still, let any guy you're older than ask you to be respecting him JUST AS you do respect his mum/dad, if you will not beat hell out of the person.

You have done a great job🤔. I don't think these people are educated whatsoever, they just form knowledgeable but are void of it🤨. If you take scriptures in its entirety then you will see Jesus' equality to God — A great hint is already given by the petulant Jews that led to his crucifixion 🤨.

Then the undeniably present state of the things of God 🤔 given the simple fact that "time" is a measure of change and if you transcend time🤨, you do not change. You are and will always be! You didn't attain anything👀 as some will want us to believe —without any scientific or logical justification —because you already have everything.

These scious 👀 personalities are incongruous, cherry-picking all through. I commend you for your patience 🙃

QuinQ:


It's not commandment in that sense! The Father gave Him the AUTHORITY to lay down His life and to pick it up again!!!!
I told you these things are beyond you!

John 12:49
" For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken"

QuinQ:


Explain this below and show us where there was a commandment.
These are YOUR OWN WORDS:

"Who will go for us?" Isaiah 6:8

That's when Archangel Michael stood up {Daniel 12:1} among all the heavenly hosts and said "here i am send me" {Isaiah 6:8} Jehovah love His firstborn son so much yet he released him for the mission.

For the umpteenth time, you can't isolate any few words in the Bible!!!
The person who was told this and finally wrote it down probably wrote what came to his head at that moment. If he had written it a few days later he probably would have used different words.
YOU DON'T CHERRYPICK THE BIBLE!!!!!

Awon believer.
I can see you are more inspired than Isaiah the prophet given direct revelation from God Almighty.

Gabrielshow24:
It's the remark of Thomas to Jesus [John 20:28]. You can't call someone My Lord and My God if they are not your Lord and God🤨

Your fellow Trinitarian mentors ended verse28 with exclamation mark (!)
Thomas exclamed to show he's amazed because he didn't believe Jesus resurrected, until he touched his body marks of nail piercing.

In the skits of social media content creators ,is there shouts of " my God!!!!" referring to God Almighty?
No nau.

When they shout "Jesus!!!!!!", is that reference to Jesus in your Bible?
Definitely not.

Please use your brain nau.
.

MaxInDHouse:

I have said that several times at the sight of amazement so that's what happened to Thomas he wasn't calling Jesus his God!

Because Thomas did not believe that Jesus resurrected.

His exclamation was an act of surprise, like someone shouts "Jesus!!!!" when he sees something amazing or suspenseful.

Gabrielshow24:
🤣🤣🤣Well that's one coy narrative but it falls flat because Jews do not use God's name as exclamations🤨!

ELDER, tell me more lies🕵️!

Abeg grow up.
STOP claiming what the Jews never said
You are adding your own mede mede
.

QuinQ:


John 10:18



You are saying what you don't know and lack the capacity to know - just as the disciples could never have known what they were asking for when they were asking to sit at Jesus' right hand.

Note the tense in John 10:18. He was talking of something that is yet to happen not choice he already made.

As for angel Michael, I actually googled it. See below

Please read the screenshot definition of divine & take notes of it's synonyms.
Divine= godlike,a god= angelic.

Angels are divine, godlike.
Please Stop deceiving yourself.

Ruke1991:


You should provide one bible verse that says, "Jesus is angel" or more specifically, "Jesus is angel Michael" as JW alleges. Jehovah Witnesses are very dogmatic followers of the interpretation of their elders not scripture followers. How dare you affirm jesus is angel Michael based on your elders commentary and not based on scripture

Oga, is it written in your Bible that Ruke have upper and lower dentition?
But the evidence dey



*1
Daniel 12:2 = John 5:28 = 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
Jesus is doing the work of archangel Michael.

Oga, @Daniel 12:2 = John 5:28 = 1 Thessalonians 4:16, whose voice raises the dead?

*2
@ Matthew 25:31 & 2 Thessalonians 1:7-8, Revelation 19:13-18,is Jesus doing the work of archangel Michael @ Revelation 12:7-9?
Yes indeed

*3.
Revelation 12:7-9 & 1st John 3:8 written by John the apostle agreed with Genesis 3:15. (John's revelation of the serpent as Satan & the victorious conqueror Jesus Christ).
Yes indeed.

*4.
Sir, Trinitarian devotees knew that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
The protestant reformers such as Martin Luther, John Calvin, Charles Spurgeon , please find out what they wrote about Jesus archangel Michael.

Ruke1991:


Allow bible to speak for itself. How dare you teach your feelings. Bible says Jesus is the creator of the world and the brightness of the glory and express image of the father. That jesus is the one who purges you of your sin.

Can moses purge your sin? Or is moses the creator of the world?


Even angel Michael is a creature of God not the creator. So how do they compare to jesus?

Can moses purge your sin? Or is moses the creator of the world? Even angel Michael is a creature of God not the creator. So how do they compare to jesus?

Jesus said before Abraham I am. How does that compare to moses. Was moses born before Abraham? Moses was a murderer. Jesus was a sinless. How do you compare both?

https://www.biblegateway.com/age/?search=Acts%203&version=NET

Oga, please study Acts 3:19-23 spoken by Peter the apostle.
Peter the apostle compared Moses to Jesus, please find out how.

Acts chapter 3 verses 19 to 23 was not written by janosky.

Emusan:


Says the person who believed that Jehovah created ONLY JESUS directly and also believes that the same Jesus is LIKE Moses

Acts 3:19-23 is in your Bible.
Why pretend as if you don't know that?

Ruke1991:




whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high” (Hebrews 1:1-3).

The problem with you JW people is that you cannot reason outside your organisations dogma. No matter how clear the truth is, you are too afraid to it your elders are wrong

Your elders also lack understanding of the use of metaphors. The word "LIKE" is a metaphor. It doesn't mean that jesus=moses. It compares jesus to moses in the sense that jesus is a deliverer. He delivers us from being slave to satan/sin while moses was a deliverer who delivered Israelites from being slave to pharoah. Also, both wrought mighty miracles which only Elisha came a distant close, but Elisha was not a deliverer. That's why the metaphor was used. Jesus however said he is not Elijah or the prophet moses. The Jehovah's witnesses elders are reasoning like the Jewish elders of Jesus days who expected a carbon copy of Elijah and moses. Unknown to them that the messiah was to save people from sin - not a fighting Messiah that will lead wars and restore again the physical kingdom of Israel

There are two metaphors in literature. They are LIKE and AS. They are for comparison. Jesus equally was compared with Jonah in the fish belly using "AS". Jesus was also compared with the serpent lifted up by moses in the wilderness using "AS". Using JW logic, that will mean Jesus=serpent=Jonah=Michael. This is blasphemous

I recommend the kingdom hall organisation goes back to school and study literature particularly, the figures of speech. To understand how "like" and "as" are used in sentences to make expressions and grasp the meaning of the figures of expression

Acts 3:19-23
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, 20 and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you—even Jesus. 21 Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. 22 For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you. 23 Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from their people.’


"Peter declared that Jesus was the eschatological prophet like Moses."


Acts 3:23 NET Bible reference.
JW's are correct on this topic, make una dey study your Bibles.
You have validated the points highlighted by Peter the apostle @ Acts 3:19-23.
Moses is a prophet and deliverer like Jesus Christ..

Janosky:




John 12:49
" For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken"

And who is this "Father"?
John 10:30,31
30 "I and the Father are one.”
31 Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him

Boils down to you lack the capacity...

Janosky:


Awon believer.
I can see you are more inspired than Isaiah the prophet given direct revelation from God Almighty.

For the umpteenth time, you can't isolate any few words in the Bible!!!
YOU DON'T CHERRYPICK THE BIBLE!!!!!

Janosky:

Please read the screenshot definition of divine & take notes of it's synonyms.
Divine= godlike,a god= angelic.

Angels are divine, godlike.
Please Stop deceiving yourself.

This is just one definition. It also means very good or pleasing and many others. Which is why we ask AI that goes through millions of pages. See it's answer below

Janosky:

Because Thomas did not believe that Jesus resurrected. His exclamation was an act of surprise, like someone shouts "Jesus!!!!" when he sees something amazing or suspenseful.

My friend has called "Ayélála" countless times at a fearful sight.
Ayélála is a god in Ondo State.
Does that mean he is seeing this god?

QuinQ:

This is just one definition. It also means very good or pleasing and many others. Which is why we ask AI that goes through millions of pages. See it's answer below

Divinity has level God stands alone while all others are lesser! Mark 10:18

Janosky:


Acts 3:19-23
Repent, then, and turn to God, so that your sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord, 20 and that he may send the Messiah, who has been appointed for you—even Jesus. 21 Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets. 22 For Moses said, ‘The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own people; you must listen to everything he tells you. 23 Anyone who does not listen to him will be completely cut off from their people.’


"Peter declared that Jesus was the eschatological prophet like Moses."


Acts 3:23 NET Bible reference.
JW's are correct on this topic, make una dey study your Bibles.
You have validated the points highlighted by Peter the apostle @ Acts 3:19-23.
Moses is a prophet and deliverer like Jesus Christ..

As a JW member, you obviously don't believe in prophecy but you agree that Jesus is a prophet just to downgrade him. Listen, we have shared too many bible verses here from the book of John to Philippians that calls Jesus God. You can remain in the error of your elders by selectively picking scriptures and ignoring some that hit the facts that your elders taught you to disagree with. But your inability to reason outside what your elders taught you is a sign of fear and lack of native intelligence

Ruke1991:


As a JW member, you obviously don't believe in prophecy but you agree that Jesus is a prophet just to downgrade him. Listen, we have shared too many bible verses here from the book of John to Philippians that calls Jesus. You can remain in the error of your elders by selectively picking scriptures and ignoring some that hit the facts that your elders taught you to disagree with. But your inability to reason outside what your elders taught you is a sign of fear and lack of native intelligence

Meaning the scriptures also call Jesus a prophet!

Janosky:


Abeg grow up.
STOP claiming what the Jews never said
You are adding your own mede mede
.

One thing is valid as fact, the Jews do not use the Lord's name in vain. They shy away from it both in exclamations and unwarranted remarks!

No matter how you try to simplify Thomas' remark as an amazement, it fails miserably because Thomas is a jew! Hence, his Lord and God refers to the personality he made that statement to, Jesus!

It's also better you perform a little research before positing a shady rhetoric😅. You are not dealing with brainwashed children but with those that have working brain cells!

Janosky:


Your fellow Trinitarian mentors ended verse28 with exclamation mark (!)
Thomas exclamed to show he's amazed because he didn't believe Jesus resurrected, until he touched his body marks of nail piercing.

In the skits of social media content creators ,is there shouts of " my God!!!!" referring to God Almighty?
No nau.

When they shout "Jesus!!!!!!", is that reference to Jesus in your Bible?
Definitely not.

Please use your brain nau.
.

I have answered this foolish rhetoric, no Jew uses the Lord's name in vain. It's a commandment etched in stone! Even the titles ascribed to God are not misused thus you have no excuse!

They do not misuse Lord, God, YHWH, Adonai and other names of God either as an exclamation or as a skit🤔!

When they mention God, the intent of it is very clear!
Do your research, Elder and stop dragging your grey hairs in mud!

Janosky:

Acts 3:19-23 is in your Bible.
Why pretend as if you don't know that?

Yes! It's there.

Was Moses also CREATED DIRECTLY BY JEHOVAH?

Let's see if you have boldness to answer this simple question

MaxInDHouse:

Divinity has level God stands alone while all others are lesser! Mark 10:18

Exactly. And somehow (in a way that's beyond our comprehension) Christ is that God and His Father is that God, which seems to us two separate Gods but it's actually one

Ruke1991:


As a JW member, you obviously don't believe in prophecy but you agree that Jesus is a prophet just to downgrade him. Listen, we have shared too many bible verses here from the book of John to Philippians that calls Jesus God. You can remain in the error of your elders by selectively picking scriptures and ignoring some that hit the facts that your elders taught you to disagree with. But your inability to reason outside what your elders taught you is a sign of fear and lack of native intelligence

So if Jesus is God, can you Kindly explain John 14:28.?

QuinQ:


Exactly. And somehow (in a way that's beyond our comprehension) Christ is that God and His Father is that God, which seems to us two separate Gods but it's actually one

Christ is divine as the Father? How do you explain John 14:28?

Truthseeker10:

Christ is divine as the Father? How do you explain John 14:28?

I explain it thus:
We know these are very likely not Christ's exact words. So you have to know what the author meant by the word "greater". We can tell what he meant by looking at other stuff he wrote. Same author wrote: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
So (to the extent we can understand these things) what he meant by "greater" is the same way highest peak of mount Everest is "greater" than a lower peak - yet they're ONE and the same Mount Everest

QuinQ:


I explain it thus:
We know these are very likely not Christ's exact words. So you have to know what the author meant by the word "greater". We can tell what he meant by looking at other stuff he wrote. Same author wrote: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
So (to the extent we can understand these things) what he meant by "greater" is the same way highest peak of mount Everest is "greater" than a lower peak - yet they're ONE and the same Mount Everest

😂😂😂tell us what was Jesus exact words in John 14:28.

So Jesus is the Lowest peak of the divinity?😂

Truthseeker10:

So if Jesus is God, can you Kindly explain John 14:28.?

If he is not God, can you explain Phil 2:6?

Lot of verses given to you guys already. If you are not brainwashed try to reason it with your own brain - stop viewing bible only through your elders eyes - use your own