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Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂tell us what was Jesus exact words in John 14:28.

So Jesus is the Lowest peak of the divinity?😂

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We have no way of knowing (even people who take direct dictatons while someone is speaking still get it wrong. Talkless of this person who was writing what he could of something told to him decades after it happened!) That's why you can't cherrypick the Bible. You have to take everything as a whole - that's when the true picture starts to emerge.
If someone says "if you see me you've seen the father", "I and the father are ONE", etc😂

QuinQ:

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We have no way of knowing (even people who take direct dictatons while someone is speaking still get it wrong. Talkless of this person who was writing what he could of something told to him decades after it happened!) That's why you can't cherrypick the Bible. You have to take everything as a whole - that's when the true picture starts to emerge.
If someone says "if you see me you've seen the father", "I and the father are ONE", etc

So Jesus says that if you've seen me you've seen the Father, and he is at the lower peak of the divinity?😂😂...na wa oo😂😂

Truthseeker10:

So Jesus says that if you've seen me you've seen the Father, and he is at the lower peak of the divinity?😂😂...na wa oo😂😂

😂😂I think this discussion is a bit above your head. You can't understand the concept that full knowledge of nature God is beyond human capacity😂😂😂😂

QuinQ:


😂😂I think this discussion is a bit above your head. You can't understand the concept that full knowledge of nature God is beyond human capacity😂😂😂😂

No need to go that far, he doesn't understand physical things talk less of spiritual mysteries😅. He is part of those that call the spirit of trees, angels 😂😂😂!

QuinQ:


😂😂I think this discussion is a bit above your head. You can't understand the concept that full knowledge of nature God is beyond human capacity😂😂😂😂

The concept of God is beyond human capacity and you are teaching me that Jesus has a lower peak of divinity yet he is divine as the Father? Na wa oo😂😂

Gabrielshow24:
No need to go that far, he doesn't understand physical things talk less of spiritual mysteries😅. He is part of those that call the spirit of trees, angels 😂😂😂!

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No mind am😂😂😂😂

Truthseeker10:
The concept of God is beyond human capacity and you are teaching me that Jesus has a lower peak of divinity yet he is divine as the Father? Na wa oo😂😂

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Our boy doesn't understand simple concept of approximate analogy, what then can he understand?😂😂😂😂

QuinQ:


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Our boy doesn't understand simple concept of approximate analogy, what then can he understand?😂😂😂😂

I can understand that Jesus said the father is greater than him in John 14:28. Can you help us twist that statement in a way that would fit your idea that Jesus is divine as the Father?

QuinQ:


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Our boy doesn't understand simple concept of approximate analogy, what then can he understand?😂😂😂😂

The concept of God is beyond human capacity and you are teaching me that Jesus has a lower peak of divinity yet he is divine as the Father? Na wa oo😂😂

QuinQ:


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Our boy doesn't understand simple concept of approximate analogy, what then can he understand?😂😂😂😂

I can understand that Jesus said the father is greater than him in John 14:28. Can you help us twist that statement in a way that would fit your idea that Jesus is divine as the Father?😂

Ruke1991:

If he is not God, can you explain Phil 2:6?

Lot of verses given to you guys already. If you are not brainwashed try to reason it with your own brain - stop viewing bible only through your elders eyes - use your own

You mean John 14:28 says that Jesus is God but lesser than the father?

Truthseeker10:
I can understand that Jesus said the father is greater than him in John 14:28. Can you help us twist that statement in a way that would fit your idea that Jesus is divine as the Father?

(You forgot your emoji - 😂😂😂)

Ok, you're slow, but you can at least understand this statement: "we have no way of knowing for sure exactly what Christ said"

BUT what we do know for sure is what the Jews did - they picked up stones to stone Him for claiming to be God

QuinQ:


(You forgot your emoji - 😂😂😂)

Ok, you're slow, but you can at least understand this statement: "we have no way of knowing for sure exactly what Christ said"

BUT what we do know for sure is what Jews did - they picked up stones to stone Him for claiming to be God

You have no way of knowing what Jesus said in John 14:28. But you have a full knowledge of what he said in John 10:30. Is that not funny?😂😂

Truthseeker10:

You have no way of knowing what Jesus said in John 14:28. But you have a full knowledge of what he said in John 10:30. Is that not funny?😂😂

I know you're slow but you can at least understand the concept that everything has to be taken together since you don't know exactly what was said. You're slow but I'm sure you'd agree the Jews didn't try to stone Him for saying the Father was greater than Him😂😂

QuinQ:


I know you're slow but you can at least understand the concept that everything has to be taken together since you don't know exactly what wad said. You're slow but I'm sure you'd agree the Jews didn't try to stone Him for saying the Father was greater than Him😂😂

So The jews trying to stone Jesus meant that Jesus said he was equal with God, yet he claimed the Father was greater than him. Na wa for all the Jewish people wey dey give you lamba chop oo😂😂😂

QuinQ:

Exactly. And somehow (in a way that's beyond our comprehension) Christ is that God and His Father is that God, which seems to us two separate Gods but it's actually one

To you people but to us Christ is no God rather a messenger of our God!

Truthseeker10:

So The jews trying to stone Jesus meant that Jesus said he was equal with God, yet he claimed the Father was greater than him. Na wa for all the Jewish people wey dey give you lamba chop oo😂😂😂

Voila! That's how you begin to be know what was really said and what likely wasn't.
See? Your brain is slow but if you try really hard you'd start getting it😂😂😂

QuinQ:


Voila! That's how you begin to be know what was really said abd likely wasn't.
See? Your brain is slow but if you try really hard you'd start getting it😂😂😂

So the Jews carrying stone means that Jesus said he was equal to God Even when he did nor say so.

Abeg what did Jesus say in John 10:36? Did Jesus say he was equal with God was the reason why they said he blaspheme and wanted to stone him?😂😂😂

King James Version
English
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

MaxInDHouse:

To you people but to us Christ is no God rather a messenger of our God!

Many Messengers came from God. From Moses to JohnTB to Archangel Michael. Mention one that the Jews tried to stone for claiming to be God. OR one that another great prophet said he was not fit to untie His shoes. OR one that said he and God are same and if you see Him you've seen God. OR one that was so much foretold. OR one that another prophet was sent to prepare for His coming. Or one that performed anything near so many miracles. Or one that rose from dead. OR one born of a virgin. ETC! Some messenger that was!

Truthseeker10:
So the Jews carrying stone means that Jesus said he was equal to God Even when he did nor say so.

Abeg what did Jesus say in John 10:36? Did Jesus say he was equal with God was the reason why they said he blaspheme and wanted to stone him?😂😂😂

King James Version
English
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

You are beginning to disappoint me again. , we established we have no way of being sure what was actually said. We do know Jews didn't stone people for claiming to be son of God.😂😂😂
We also know we saw this in John 10:33 - "you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

QuinQ:


You are beginning to disappoint me again. , we established we have no way of being sure what was actually said. We do know Jews didn't stone people for claiming to be son of God.
We also know we saw this in John 10:33 - "you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

😂😂😂😂you and who dey establish.

Wetin Jesus talk for John 10:36. Did he say he was God or the son of God?
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Why are you not always understanding what Jesus is saying but what the Jews are saying?

QuinQ:


You are beginning to disappoint me again. , we established we have no way of being sure what was actually said. We do know Jews didn't stone people for claiming to be son of God.😂😂😂
We also know we saw this in John 10:33 - "you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

I can see you are catching cruise with him😂. He knows the Truth 👀 he is just trying to play on hoping you make a mistake he can seize on😅. So far, you have history and the Truth on your side whereas he has nothing !

It's indeed true, to be on the side of Truth 🧐!

Gabrielshow24:
I can see you are catching cruise with him😂. He knows the Truth 👀 he is just trying to play on hoping you make a mistake he can seize on😅. So far, you have history and the Truth on your side whereas he has nothing !

It's indeed true, to be on the side of Truth 🧐!

😂😂😂the truth is seen in bold Below concerning John 14:28 and John 30:36.

QuinQ
"we have no way of knowing for sure exactly what Christ said"

Gabrielshow24:
I can see you are catching cruise with him😂. He knows the Truth 👀 he is just trying to play on hoping you make a mistake he can seize on😅. So far, you have history and the Truth on your side whereas he has nothing !

It's indeed true, to be on the side of Truth 🧐!

Couldn't have said it better

Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂😂you and who dey establish.

Wetin Jesus talk for John 10:36. Did he say he was God or the son of God?
36Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Why are you not always understanding what Jesus is saying but what the Jews are saying?

😂😂😂You're really, really disappointing me again.
Here are things we KNOW for sure:
1) Those words were ed from person to person until they finally got to the person who finally wrote something down decades later
2) Jews tried to stone Him
3) Jews didn't stone people for claiming to be son of God - we'er all sons of God

Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂the truth is seen in bold Below concerning John 14:28 and John 30:36.

"we have no way of knowing for sure exactly what Christ said"

😂😂😂That's why you don't cherrypick the Bible. Everything is to be taken together. That's the only way you start getting the true picture

QuinQ:


Couldn't have said it better



😂😂😂You're really, really disappointing me again.
Here are things we KNOW for sure:
1) Those words were ed from person to person until they finally got to the person who finally wrote something down decades later
2) Jews tried to stone Him
3) Jews didn't stone people for claiming to be son of God - we'er all sons of God

😂😂😂😂but the stoning was not ed down from person to person until they finally got to the person who finally wrote something down decades later. This guy na comedian.

Gabrielshow24. Is the bolded above something you agree with as regards Jesus words in John 14:28 and John 10:36?

Do you also agree with QuinQ words below in respect to those two verses?

"we have no way of knowing for sure exactly what Christ said"

Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂😂but the stoning was not ed down from person to person until they finally got to the person who finally wrote something down decades later. This guy na comedian.

Gabrielshow24. Is the bolded above something you agree with as regards Jesus words in John 14:28 and John 10:36?

Do you also agree with QuinQ words below in respect to those two verses?

"we have no way of knowing for sure exactly what Christ said"

😂😂😂😂 You've really turned out a huge disappointment.
I know you're slow but how slow can you be not to know that ing exactly what someone said after many decades is very different from ing that they, say, slapped you

QuinQ:

Many Messengers came from God. From Moses to JohnTB to Archangel Michael. Mention one that the Jews tried to stone for claiming to be God. OR one that another great prophet said he was not fit to untie His shoes. OR one that said he and God are same and if you see Him you've seen God. OR one that was so much foretold. OR one that another prophet was sent to prepare for His coming. Or one that performed anything near so many miracles. Or one that rose from dead. OR one born of a virgin. ETC! Some messenger that was!

All messengers are equal before God the only difference between Jesus and all the others is his background. Jesus is the Archangel Michael the head of all angels in heaven so he's a perfect human that only Adam is equal to him before God {1Corinthans 15:45 compare to Luke 3:38} because Adam was born (created) without sin just as Jesus but all others are born in sin. Psalms 51:5

MaxInDHouse:

All messengers are equal before God the only difference between Jesus and all the others is his background. Jesus is the Archangel Michael the head of all angels in heaven so he's a perfect human that only Adam is equal to him before God {1Corinthans 15:45 compare to Luke 3:38} because Adam was born (created) without sin just as Jesus but all others are born in sin. Psalms 51:5

You were asked to mention one and you're rambling.
Why did he change his name to Jesus? What's wrong with Michael?
And how come he never indicated he was anything Michael but instead agreed with Peter He was THE Son of the living Gof

QuinQ:


😂😂😂😂 You've really turned out a huge disappointment.
I know you're slow but how slow can you be not to know that ing exactly what someone said after many decades is very different from ing that they, say, slapped you

😂😂😂na wa....so can you kindly tell us the verses of Jesus Christ speech that was easy to ?

Truthseeker10:

😂😂😂na wa....so can you kindly tell us the verses of Jesus Christ speech that was easy to ?

Respectfully, this conversation is above your pay grade. Bye-bye