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happney65: 7:44am On May 17
During President Trump’s tour through the Middle East, the White House released daily lists of the dozens of deals it said he had secured during his visits.

However, at least half a dozen of the contracts were announced before Trump even took office in January, according to a Post review. https://wapo.st/3S4Bkaa

The Liar in chief.. grin angry

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cococandy(f): 7:54am On May 17
happney65:
During President Trump’s tour through the Middle East, the White House released daily lists of the dozens of deals it said he had secured during his visits.

However, at least half a dozen of the contracts were announced before Trump even took office in January, according to a Post review. https://wapo.st/3S4Bkaa

The Liar in chief.. grin angry
He lies so easily and effortlessly. It’s shocking.
Imaging having to pause and every single sentence that comes out of his mouth because no one with common sense can take a single thing he says at face value.

He literally just lied about brokering a peace deal between India and Pakistan as if those who countries won’t come out and deny it. He just hopes that if he tells 300 lies and he only gets challenged on 150 of them, the remaining 150 lies will get unnoticed and slide into existence as accepted “facts”

What a douchey awful man.

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Maeve7: 7:59am On May 17
happney65:
During President Trump’s tour through the Middle East, the White House released daily lists of the dozens of deals it said he had secured during his visits.

However, at least half a dozen of the contracts were announced before Trump even took office in January, according to a Post review. https://wapo.st/3S4Bkaa

The Liar in chief.. grin angry

As usual. Same old Trump.

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cococandy(f): 8:14am On May 17
LordReed:
Georgia mother says she is being forced to keep brain-dead pregnant daughter alive under abortion ban law

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-forced-keep-brain-dead-pregnant-woman-alive-rcna207002

Basilico, bemeruca and co your thoughts on this.

I used to work in the ICU and I can tell you that what’s involved in keeping that woman’s body alive just so she can be used as an incubator is nothing short of horrendous.

Her body is actively trying to die and they’re doing everything they can to keep her in hell on earth just so she can be used to grow a fetus her family doesn’t even want.

The vasopressors to keep her blood pressure from bottoming out will turn her fingers and toes purple and they’ll eventually die and fall off. Why? Because vasopressors work but constricting the blood vessels and concentrating blood supply to the vital organs only. It’s a dire last resort solution that’s only intended to be used as a short term solution before the patient is stabilized or unfortunately es on. In her case she’s gone so what they are doing is basically desecrating a corpse.

The ventilator she’s on is just a vector for all kinds of stuff to crawl down her throat and cause respiratory colonization. I guess that doesn’t matter now.

Pretty sure they have all kinds of tubes sticking out her as well. Arterial line, probably a swan ganz, fecal management systems, urinary catheter etc. risk or pressure injuries/decubitus ulcers down to the bone

Most ICU nurses will make you promise to let them go if they ever find themselves in that situation.

Ridiculous pointless torture.

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basilico: 8:15am On May 17
feedthenation:


---@ the bolded---would you honesty make the same statement if it was reported that Joe Biden is planning to receive a jumbo jet gift from a country who s Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood or any other foreign nationals with 'questionable characters' as mentioned by Sean Hannity---


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cMRcmg5VRU

---Also what is the cost to retrofit the 747-8 that would only be used for about 2 years before Felon 47 library takes ownership---at a time when Felon 47 and President Musk's DOGE are looking for ways to cut waste in government and also reduce the amount going to past US presidents' presidential libraries---

You tell me for a fact that Biden didn't attempt to buy the same plane but was rebuffed before waxing lyrical.
LordReed(m): 8:36am On May 17
cococandy:


I used to work in the ICU and I can tell you that what’s involved in keeping that woman’s body alive just so she can be used as an incubator is nothing short of horrendous.

Her body is actively trying to die and they’re doing everything they can to keep her in hell on earth just so she can be used to grow a fetus her family doesn’t even want.

The vasopressors to keep her blood pressure from bottoming out will turn her fingers and toes purple and they’ll eventually die and fall off. Why? Because vasopressors work but constricting the blood vessels and concentrating blood supply to the vital organs only. It’s a dire last resort solution that’s only intended to be used as a short term solution before the patient is stabilized or unfortunately es on. In her case she’s gone so what they are doing is basically desecrating a corpse.

The ventilator she’s on is just a vector for all kinds of stuff to crawl down her throat and cause respiratory colonization. I guess that doesn’t matter now.

Pretty sure they have all kinds of tubes sticking out her as well. Arterial line, probably a swan ganz, fecal management systems, urinary catheter etc.

Most ICU nurses will make you promise to let them go if they ever find themselves in that situation.

Ridiculous pointless torture.

I cannot just imagine being in this position either as the brain dead person on life or the parent looking on. Absolutely horrendous.

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happney65: 9:23am On May 17
cococandy:

He lies so easily and effortlessly. It’s shocking.
Imaging having to pause and every single sentence that comes out of his mouth because no one with common sense can take a single thing he says at face value.

He literally just lied about brokering a peace deal between India and Pakistan as if those who countries won’t come out and deny it. He just hopes that if he tells 300 lies and he only gets challenged on 150 of them, the remaining 150 lies will get unnoticed and slide into existence as accepted “facts”

What a douchey awful man.

A really awful Man he truly is

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basilico: 9:32am On May 17
Bemeruca and raumdeuter. My position on the Qatar gift.
Trump bragged about renegotiating the costs of two Air force One planes. Initial estimate was $5.3B but Trump negotiated with Boeing president to $3.9B. As usual he bragged about it.

The airframe had been built for a Russia airline company that had gone bankrupt. Boeing wasn't really happy saying the deal cost them $2.5B loss in the process
In retrospect I think Boeing made sure Trump would never be the first POTUS to use it , delaying it to 2024. When he won, they pushed delivery to around 2035. So I think that's just politics because the most demanding part of a plane is the airframe. In any case the retrofitting is done by their contractor.

The current gift is being retrofitted by the same contractor ,scheduled to take less than 2 years. (USAF took 2 years to salvage 2 F-35 jets that had crashed to the ground and partly caught fire, a company like Boeing should take less time with a plane that probably needed only finishing touches as a commerical liner.
Some.posts on X have claimed that Biden had initiated offers to buy the same plane,this has not been confirmed or denied. I doubt that Qatar just offered the plane out of thin air.
According to Grok,if the gift actually becomes operational, after 2027 it would be decommissioned first removing any security additions
It will be ,under control of DOD and NARA .Trump and his family would not use it all. It would however be under the presidential museum ,which can fundraise from it And if its still capable of flying DoD and NARA would strictly supervise it. Nevertheless it would be a good bragging right to the Trump presidential library. ( The settlements from his defamation suits eg Facebook and ABC are being channeled to his library)

My opinion.Why is Qatar gifting him. Qatar has been hosting Hamas leades including their billinaire boss blown up in Tehran, they have funded Hamas to the tunes of billions. They built a high end residential estate in Gaza which IDF flattened ,it was hosting the Hamas top dogs complete with an "undergroud metropolis". With the gift,I am of the opinion that Trump positions on Palestine and Israel have tacitly changed. There is no way Qatar gifts him without something in return, this has do with Israel and the Abraham accords.The position of Saudi and Qatar is that a two state solution for Palestinians must be on the table if they are to sign in.

I've stated before ,the gift doesn't look good for Trump.
bemeruca: 11:30am On May 17
LordReed:
Georgia mother says she is being forced to keep brain-dead pregnant daughter alive under abortion ban law

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-forced-keep-brain-dead-pregnant-woman-alive-rcna207002

Basilico, bemeruca and co your thoughts on this.

What does the woman want for her baby? We don't know. I assume she wants her baby to live.
bemeruca: 11:40am On May 17
basilico:
Bemeruca and raumdeuter. My position on the Qatar gift.
Trump bragged about renegotiating the costs of two Air force One plane. Initial estimate was $5.3 but Trump negotiated with Boeing president to $3.9B. As usual he bragged about it.

The airframe had been built for a Russia airline company that had gone bankrupt. Boeing wasn't really happy saying the deal cost them $2.5B loss in the process
In retrospect I think Boeing made sure Trump would never be the first POTUS to use it , delaying it to 2024. When he won, they pushed delivery to around 2035. So I think that's just politics because the most demanding part of a plane is the airframe. In any case the retrofitting is done by their contractor.

The current gift is being retrofitted by the same contractor ,scheduled to take 2 years. (USAF took 2 years to salvage 2 f35 jets that had crashed and partly burnt to the ground , a company like Boeing should obviously take less time with a plane that probably needed only finishing touches as a commerical liner.
Some.posts on X have claimed that Biden had initiated offers to buy the same plane,this has not been confirmed or denied. I doubt that Qatar just offered the plane out of thin air.
According to Grok,if the gift actually becomes operational it would be decommissioned first removing any security additions ,under control of DOD and NARA .Trump family would not use it all. It would however be under the presidential museum ,which can fundraise from it And if its still capable of flying DoD and NARA would strictly supervise it. Nevertheless it would be a good bragging right to the Trump presidential library. ( The settlements from his defamation suits eg Facebook and ABC are being channeled to his library)

My opinion.Why is Qatar gifting him. Qatar has been hosting Hamas leades including their billinaire head blown up in Tehran, they have funded Hamas to the tunes of billions. They built a high end residential estate in Gaza which IDF flattened ,it was hosting the Hamas top dogs complete with an "undergroud metropolis". With the gift,I am of the opinion that Trump ideas on Palestine and Israel has tacitly changed. There is no way Qatar gifts him without something in return, this has do with Israel and the Abraham accords.The position of Saudi and Qatar is that a two state solution for Palestinians must be on the table if they are to sign in ..

I've stated before ,the gift doesn't look good for Trump.




Trump is very unpredictable. I am sure they did not say take this plane and give us this or do that. But, their expectations are there. The optics of receiving a plane from Qatar just don't look good.
basilico: 11:55am On May 17
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8427246/family-founded-stable-union-man

Pope Leo XIV affirmed Friday that the family is founded on the “stable union between a man and a woman,

Liberals should rush to correct him and educate him about gender dysphoria.
basilico: 12:00pm On May 17
LordReed:
Georgia mother says she is being forced to keep brain-dead pregnant daughter alive under abortion ban law

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-forced-keep-brain-dead-pregnant-woman-alive-rcna207002

Basilico, bemeruca and co your thoughts on this.

You might want to know my positions on abortion, I've never advocated for a ban.
LordReed(m): 12:14pm On May 17
basilico:


You might want to know my positions on abortion, I've never advocated for a ban.

I literally asked for your thoughts on the issue.
LordReed(m): 12:14pm On May 17
bemeruca:


What does the woman want for her baby? We don't know. I assume she wants her baby to live.

Did you even read the article?
basilico: 12:37pm On May 17
Joe Biden audio tape of his interview with Robert Hurr released to Axios .
Link.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugM76taxz2E

Axios which is very sympathetic to him.could not help to note that other people were in charge of the WH because Joe Biden is severely mentally handicapped.

https://www.axios.com/2025/05/16/biden-hur-tape-special-counsel-audio

Joe went completely offscipt, forgetting the year his son died,when he was ,when Trump won. Chillingly a grandfather clock tik tok exposes how long he took to answer questions

But here's what it sounded like in the quiet room where the dead air between Biden's pauses is emphasized by the tick-tock of the clock:
"Okay, yeah … "

Tick.
"... Beau had ed and …"

Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Tick.
"... this is personal …"

Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock. Tick.
"... the genesis … "

Tick.
"...of the book and the title Promise Me, Dad, was a …"

Tick. Tock. Tick.
"... I know you're all close with your sons and daughters, but Beau was .."

Tick. Tock.
"...like my right arm and Hunt was my left."

His lawyers interjecting in and helping him answer.
Total trainwreck.

WH and Garland refused to release the audiotape citing national security. Total BS. It was part of the continuing coverup by him,WH,his doctor,his family and media about who was really running the country.

Trump should revoke every executive order he signed and dare any judge to grant an injuction. He has three grounds
_Jake Tapper book.
_This Audio tape.
_Autopen. Two were used. The only signature was his statement stepping out of the race which was uniquely different from the two autopens.
bemeruca: 12:38pm On May 17
LordReed:


Did you even read the article?

A brain dead woman is on life so her baby can be viable.
basilico: 12:50pm On May 17
LordReed:


I literally asked for your thoughts on the issue.

I have read the story.My heart goes out to the family ,the woman and her unborn baby.
If she wasn't pregnant,how would the family have proceeded. Terminate life ?
Supposing they keep her alive till the baby can survive ,baby grows up and discovers a cure for cancer.
The longest known case was a patient named TK, kept on life for nearly 20 years after being declared brain d


The author didn't make it clear what is troubling the parents. The abortion laws or the medical costs of keeping her alive.
Lawag3: 12:57pm On May 17
LordReed:
Georgia mother says she is being forced to keep brain-dead pregnant daughter alive under abortion ban law

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-forced-keep-brain-dead-pregnant-woman-alive-rcna207002

Basilico, bemeruca and co your thoughts on this.


She should wait until the baby is old enough to be delivered through cs and put in an incubator.
ObaIgwe1: 1:13pm On May 17
cococandy:

He lies so easily and effortlessly. It’s shocking.
Imaging having to pause and every single sentence that comes out of his mouth because no one with common sense can take a single thing he says at face value.

He literally just lied about brokering a peace deal between India and Pakistan as if those who countries won’t come out and deny it. He just hopes that if he tells 300 lies and he only gets challenged on 150 of them, the remaining 150 lies will get unnoticed and slide into existence as accepted “facts”

What a douchey awful man.

Under any other president, Republican or Democrat, this would have been a walk of shame and might even be called a scandal. But catching Trump lying has become normal and one of those things. When I said decency should be a key to who become the president of US, his ers claimed every politicians lies, but not all politicians lie consistently and shamelessly like Trump and with no remorse when caught lying....rather he and his ers will gaslight everyone into other issues. And if you keep pointing it out, they will say you are suffering from TDS. What a shame Trump brings to the respected office he occupies.

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raumdeuter: 1:23pm On May 17
raumdeuter: 1:26pm On May 17
basilico:


Liberals should rush to correct him and educate him about gender dysphoria.

He will gradually get there

When Fetterman was contesting for Senate after his stroke Democrats insist he was fit enough to do his job

After Fetterman got into the house and started ing Israel, visited Trump, Democrats now say he was not fit enough for the job


Same way the same people who swore Biden was fit, insulted those who claimed otherwise are now writing books claiming Biden was never fit
A disgrace
raumdeuter: 1:28pm On May 17
happney65:
During President Trump’s tour through the Middle East, the White House released daily lists of the dozens of deals it said he had secured during his visits.

However, at least half a dozen of the contracts were announced before Trump even took office in January, according to a Post review. https://wapo.st/3S4Bkaa

The Liar in chief.. grin angry

We know the playbook,

We have heard of it multiple times

Everything Trump did, Yeah Biden wanted to do it before but slept off at the job

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raumdeuter: 1:33pm On May 17
Where was this decency when the white house, the entire Democratic apparatus lied consistently about the health of President Biden

Now they want to tell us about decency?
LordReed(m): 1:41pm On May 17
bemeruca:


A brain dead woman is on life so her baby can be viable.

And that is acceptable to you?
LordReed(m): 1:45pm On May 17
basilico:


I have read the story.My heart goes out to the family ,the woman and her unborn baby.
If she wasn't pregnant,how would the family have proceeded. Terminate life ?
Supposing they keep her alive till the baby can survive ,baby grows up and discovers a cure for cancer.
The longest known case was a patient named TK, kept on life for nearly 20 years after being declared brain d


The author didn't make it clear what is troubling the parents. The abortion laws or the medical costs of keeping her alive.


Anything is possible if we suppose it. Suppose Hitler was going to find the cure for cancer, may be the Allies should have allowed him to take over Europe and Russia.

If you were the father of this pregnant woman you would allow your brain dead daugther to be on life just because she's pregnant?
LordReed(m): 1:46pm On May 17
Lawag3:



She should wait until the baby is old enough to be delivered through cs and put in an incubator.

So if you were the father of the pregnant brain dead woman that is what you'd do?

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LordReed(m): 1:50pm On May 17
raumdeuter:
Where was this decency when the white house, the entire Democratic apparatus lied consistently about the health of President Biden

Now they want to tell us about decency?

So accepting what is tantamount to is a bribe is part of decency?
basilico: 1:52pm On May 17
raumdeuter:


A bribe?

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/qatar-signs-200-bln-deal-buy-jets-boeing-during-trump-visit-2025-05-14/

They bribed him so that they could give Boeing business they've never had.
Macron has flown to and promoted Airbus and Rafale jets to several countries - Serbia, India, Brazil UAE, Ukraine, Croatia etc.
As per my thoughts this has largely to do with Abraham Accords, recognition of Israel and the Palestinian two state solution.
raumdeuter: 1:54pm On May 17
LordReed:


So accepting what is tantamount to is a bribe is part of decency?

If anyone should be talking about decency it shouldn't be the democrats

The same people who committed elder abuse and were willing to gamble the country's future when they pushed an obviously sick man and lying consistently about how it was just a stutter, he had a cold, it was tiredness from flying

How was the country actually run in those days and who was g the bills they claimed Biden did?

Anyone decent won't do that
basilico: 1:54pm On May 17
LordReed:


Anything is possible if we suppose it. Suppose Hitler was going to find the cure for cancer, may be the Allies should have allowed him to take over Europe and Russia.

If you were the father of this pregnant woman you would allow your brain dead daugther to be on life just because she's pregnant?

Is your concern the abortion laws or the brain dead woman? Say your piece.
How long should a brain dead person be allowed to live?
raumdeuter: 1:55pm On May 17
basilico:


They bribed him so that they could give Boeing business they've never had.
Macron has flown to and promoted Airbus and Rafale jets to several countries - Serbia, India, Brazil UAE, Ukraine, Croatia etc.
As per my thoughts this has largely to do with Abraham Accords, recognition of Israel and the Palestinian two state solution.

I expect them to tell us Qatar already agreed to do business with Boeing before Biden left office too
basilico: 1:57pm On May 17
raumdeuter:


We know the playbook,

We have heard of it multiple times

Everything Trump did, Yeah Biden wanted to do it before but slept off at the job

Including ing a bipartisan bill to stop illegal immigration.

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