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Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.

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The materials will be used in Ibadan.

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Please is it proper to stack blocks together using plaster sand instead of normal sharp sand?

Someone told me that it is gradually becoming a norm.

Though I have seen and confirmed where laterite was used in place of plaster sand.

bimsite:
Hi everyone, can anyone kindly recommend who can handle central sewage system for small facility?

Where is the site location and is there an existing design drawing for the project?

dollarnaira:
Please is it proper to stack blocks together using plaster sand instead of normal sharp sand?

Someone told me that it is gradually becoming a norm.

Though I have seen and confirmed where laterite was used in place of plaster sand.

I want to believe the your use of term "stack" means blocks with mortar mix are laid one on top another horizontally and vertically.
If that's the case then it's only advisable that one uses sharp sand and portalnd cement.



I hope you are not mixing it up.
The only time where clay is used in place of plastering sand or gum sand is when plastering works or rendering on walls is to be done.

debeey87:
Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.

The first plumber is useless. I will not be using his services anymore going forward.

The second plumber knows what they are doing. You probably have run a conduit plumbing system, so the pipe is buried in between the walls. A section of that pipe is leaking. You will need to chisel out that area of the wall to get to the source of leakage and fix it.

You don't want to start breaking walls. So, you need to terminate the water supply to that pipe outside and run a new surface plumbing. However this may not be straightforward because plumbing is a network. The leaking pipe may be linked to other sections of the supply network. Terminating the supply may disrupt the water supply to other sections of the house.

Terminating the supply from outside because you don't want to break walls and then reinstalling the network as a surface system may be more expensive than just chiselling the section of the wall and fixing the leak.

Moulding blocks with "plaster sand" is a heavy misnomer. The particle size distribution is largely very fine and cannot the minimum sieve gradation

Street explanation had it that it "gums" and so will reduce the quantity of cement used for production.

Plaster sand is clayey and is an enemy in engineering practice. It can be subjected to heat (in a klin) before use to reduce the moisture content before use

dollarnaira:
Please is it proper to stack blocks together using plaster sand instead of normal sharp sand?

Someone told me that it is gradually becoming a norm.

Though I have seen and confirmed where laterite was used in place of plaster sand.

Would be good to factually understand the issue rather than assuming

If the original installer isnt available, it will be advised to trace the line and locate the possible fault.

Breaking up the wall is a preferred bitter truth

debeey87:
Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.

I think the number of columns can be reduced considerably

Is this planned for a bungalow or a storey or 2 stories building?

No need for any form "double pillar"

Obinnau:
My dear builders, Please tell me what you think of this plan especially in the of the structural plans. do you think the pillars are well spaced? Y16 (4 rods per column) is projected to be used for the ground floor. is there need for a double pillar anywhere?

Also you can comment on other observations that you think can be made. I will appreciate your comments.

bixton:



Where is the site location and is there an existing design drawing for the project?

Yes there is, and site location is Mainland, Lagos.

diordaves:


The first plumber is useless. I will not be using his services anymore going forward.

The second plumber knows what they are doing. You probably have run a conduit plumbing system, so the pipe is buried in between the walls. A section of that pipe is leaking. You will need to chisel out that area of the wall to get to the source of leakage and fix it.

I had another discussion with the new plumber today, we opted to chisel the walls find the leak and fix it. Thanks for your thought

You don't want to start breaking walls. So, you need to terminate the water supply to that pipe outside and run a new surface plumbing. However this may not be straightforward because plumbing is a network. The leaking pipe may be linked to other sections of the supply network. Terminating the supply may disrupt the water supply to other sections of the house.

Terminating the supply from outside because you don't want to break walls and then reinstalling the network as a surface system may be more expensive than just chiselling the section of the wall and fixing the leak.

m2cad:

Would be good to factually understand the issue rather than assuming

If the original installer isnt available, it will be advised to trace the line and locate the possible fault.

Breaking up the wall is a preferred bitter truth

Thank you. That's what we will do

Probz:


They can also be used to smoke food (e.g., jollof rice, moi-moi, ofe akwu). That’s my attraction to it. It’s all about the food with me.

A4re you sure we are talking of same wood? cos that wood is too xpenssive to be used in what you are describing, this wood is in same category as Comb wood!

m2cad:
Moulding blocks with "plaster sand" is a heavy misnomer. The particle size distribution is largely very fine and cannot the minimum sieve gradation

Street explanation had it that it "gums" and so will reduce the quantity of cement used for production.

Plaster sand is clayey and is an enemy in engineering practice. It can be subjected to heat (in a klin) before use to reduce the moisture content before use

Not moulding blocks oooo .

Talking of "gumming" already moulded blocks together. Not yet practiced but "I heard"....

dollarnaira:


Not moulding blocks oooo .

Talking of "gumming" already moulded blocks together. Not yet practiced but "I heard"....

If the usages will be more than 3000 blocks
See you will waste materials ehn

Because sharpsand/sandy soil is different from plaster/clay/loamy soil..... Bricklayers go waste materials like mad

Because where one handful trowel of sharpsand will fill will eventually be taking two handful trowel of plastering sand


The thing go just dey fall anyhow

dollarnaira:


Not moulding blocks oooo .

Talking of "gumming" already moulded blocks together. Not yet practiced but "I heard"....

Except if its case of like 100 or less blocks... You won't be wasting much of cement

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Cold141114:



If the usages will be more than 3000 blocks
See you will waste materials ehn

Because sharpsand/sandy soil is different from plaster/clay/loamy soil..... Bricklayers go waste materials like mad

Because where one handful trowel of sharpsand will fill will eventually be taking two handful trowel of plastering sand


The thing go just dey fall anyhow

Thanks bro.

When I have had this problem the culprit has been

1) Waste, pipes and tiles not properly connected and/ sealed so further leaks through the sides of the tiles.

2) Initial plan and plumbing for additional waste when bathroom is washed but tiler covered the spot so we did not see this until the leak from the wall and at least one attempt of changing the bend and re sealing which did not work.

debeey87:
Two of the flats in my rental property have water soaking the walls from the toilet area.

First plumber I contracted said the issue was from opening between the floor and wall tiles, so he used water proof cement on the edges but that didn't stop it. We also noticed that the floor doesn't direct water into the floor drain so you still have some left over water on the bathroom floor. This was corrected by tiler recently by redoing the floor and water flows completely to the drain. However the issue is still there.

New plumber is saying the water supply is the culprit considering how much the wall is getting soaked and seeing it spread across the outside wall. He's suggesting we break the wall to find the leak ( I will prefer to rather run a new surface supply line instead of breaking the wall).

Has anyone experienced such and how did they solve it. Can waste pipes be responsible as well.

There is one sand they call 3 in 1 in Ayobo area but it is more sharp than plaster and I only used it for fence work.

Mi aroron. I no want katakata problem in the future but people use it to build and plaster.

bixton:



I want to believe the your use of term "stack" means blocks with mortar mix are laid one on top another horizontally and vertically.
If that's the case then it's only advisable that one uses sharp sand and portalnd cement.



I hope you are not mixing it up.
The only time where clay is used in place of plastering sand or gum sand is when plastering works or rendering on walls is to be done.

So what solution was used eventually?

gabbytabby:
When I have had this problem the culprit has been

1) Waste, pipes and tiles not properly connected and/ sealed so further leaks through the sides of the tiles.

2) Initial plan and plumbing for additional waste when bathroom is washed but tiler covered the spot so we did not see this until the leak from the wall and at least one attempt of changing the bend and re sealing which did not work.

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diordaves:


The first plumber is useless. I will not be using his services anymore going forward.

The second plumber knows what they are doing. You probably have run a conduit plumbing system, so the pipe is buried in between the walls. A section of that pipe is leaking. You will need to chisel out that area of the wall to get to the source of leakage and fix it.

You don't want to start breaking walls. So, you need to terminate the water supply to that pipe outside and run a new surface plumbing. However this may not be straightforward because plumbing is a network. The leaking pipe may be linked to other sections of the supply network. Terminating the supply may disrupt the water supply to other sections of the house.

Terminating the supply from outside because you don't want to break walls and then reinstalling the network as a surface system may be more expensive than just chiselling the section of the wall and fixing the leak.

The bolded is just apt✓
I hope the OP understands & follows your message, rather than finding temporary solutions or alternatives, just find & face the problem, then fix it.

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