NewStats: 3,259,240 , 8,169,565 topics. Date: Saturday, 24 May 2025 at 12:35 PM j192r

Most people just hear phrases in the Bible and think they fit in simply because it's spoken by God's servants.

When a person becomes a BORN AGAIN Christian he or she can't get married again unless that happened before the anointing.

WHY

Everything in the brain of a born again is about heavenly life where people don't acquire material possessions, married or have kids, all they keep thinking about is how to complete their earthly mission and Christ in heaven.

That's why Jesus stopped everything he was doing before his baptism, before then he learned carpentry from his foster father Joseph and so he practiced carpentry as a profession before his baptism but from that moment he never returned again!

So most people don't know the meaning of that term "BORN AGAIN" whatever you've been doing before that day ends and you start a new life spending 80-90% of your time preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom.

Bfly:

I mean thesame Jesus who is in the trinity before the creation of man; who ruled in heaven before coming as man to die for the sin of man. the same Jesus born of Holy Spirit; free from the sin of garden; and still without any sin in him till he died and rose again.

All these are dogmas he was a perfect being but by the time he was born he worked for money as a carpenter before his baptism so it's after his baptism that God chose him to rule as Christ and from that moment he began the work all his born again brothers must engage for the rest of their earthly course.

Bfly:

So,
Jesus was not born again; He was baptized by John as a testimony of the one to come and testified of the Father himself through a voice from heaven and a dove which descended.

Before that day he was a carpenter that means he was working for money not for God so after his baptism he took up the full time ministry and stopped working for money that's what all born again Christians ought to do!

femi4:
Heresy...
Jesus didn't get born again when he got baptized. He was already born of the spirit. Infact the baptism was done to fulfill all righteousness cos he wasn't unrighteous

He became the first born again that's why he stopped working for money and started a full time ministry working for God hoping to get his reward in heaven! Matthew 6:19-21

MaxInDHouse:


He became the first born again that's why he stopped working for money and started a full time ministry working for God hoping to get his reward in heaven! Matthew 6:19-21

provide a scripture.....type it out

femi4:

provide a scripture.....type it out

Scripture for what exactly?

MaxInDHouse:

Scripture for what exactly?

That Jesus got born again

Bfly:


I mean thesame Jesus who is in the trinity before the creation of man; who ruled in heaven before coming as man to die for the sin of man. the same Jesus born of Holy Spirit; free from the sin of garden; and still without any sin in him till he died and rose again.


So,
Jesus was not born again; He was baptized by John as a testimony of the one to come and testified of the Father himself through a voice from heaven and a dove which descended.

Ignore that clown...he's probably a troll

If i forget my birthday, for whatever reason, does it change the fact that i was born on that day?

If I forget the day I graduated from university, does it change the fact that I graduated from university on that very day?

That is your answer.

MaxInDHouse:

*Jesus became born again the day he got baptized, that's the time he was anointed with God's Holy Spirit.

*John the baptist was never born again.

*Mary became born again on the day of Pentecost.

*Joseph Jesus' adoptive brother never because a Christian at all only James and Jude accepted Christianity after their mother.

Jesus was born without sin. So there is no need for him to be born again.

By the way, born has nothing to do with baptism as one can be born again and not be baptized. Although it is better to be baptized after being born again.

The concept of born again was stated in John 3 when Jesus was discussing with Nichodemus.

Jesus was born without sin.

femi4:

That Jesus got born again

He is the first to be baptized of water and spirit {Matthew 3:16} just as he explained what being born again entails! John 3:3-5

MaxInDHouse:

He is the first to be baptized of water and spirit {Matthew 3:16} just as he explained what being born again entails! John 3:3-5

How was he baptized by spirit here

kachistone:

Jesus was born without sin. So there is no need for him to be born again.

Now i know why most of you don't have the understanding of God's word.

Being born again doesn't mean someone who hasn't committed sin o rather it means someone anointed with God's Holy Spirit to rule as king and priest in heaven!

femi4:

How was he baptized by spirit here

God's Holy Spirit landed on his head like a dove just as it landed on his disciples like tongues of fire! Act 2:2-3

MaxInDHouse:

God's Holy Spirit landed on his head like a dove just as it landed on his disciples like tongues of fire! Act 2:2-3

So if that's the baptism of the Holy Spirit by your interpretation, how come subsequent ones didn't come with dove landing on apostles head?

Stop the wrong interpretation of the scripture

The Spirit as always been with Jesus, never left

femi4:

So if that's the baptism of the Holy Spirit by your interpretation, how come subsequent ones didn't come with dove landing on apostles head?
Stop the wrong interpretation of the scripture
The Spirit as always been with Jesus, never left

Gotten answers to all your questions as found in the Bible so it's left to you if you choose to argue with God's word!

MaxInDHouse:


Gotten answers to all your questions as found in the Bible so it's left to you if you choose to argue with God's word!

Ignorance

This is Jesus at age 12
Lk 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

femi4:
Ignorance

This is Jesus at age 12
Lk 4:18

The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free

The highlighted is WRONG Jesus said what is found written here after his baptism and being born again!

In this day and age, the born again person would likely have a baptimal certificate showing the date they were baptised. Being born again is from water and holy spirit = baptism. This is clearly taught in John 3:5 and affirmed by early Church Fathers like Justin Martyr and Irenaeus and still carries on to date in Catholic, Orthodox and even Lutheran churches. Evangelicals changed the meaning of being born again - this is a later development.

I don't know when I got born again but I grew up with parents who didn't attend churches but you dare not stay at home on Sundays without going to the church or you will be a dead man. I started reading Gedeon bible in JSS, I must have given my life to God in JSS2 cos I learnt to reject evil at JSS, I rejected anything Ido from primary school and hated it. I know I would confess the salvation message but don't know when I got born again. I am sure I was born again very early, I later confessed the salvation message just incase I wasn't born again as an adult. Sin is not appealing to me anymore, Hallelujah the Holy Spirit does minister to me that I am a child of God.

Donpuffy:
Are you kidding, why must you know the date.

That's too extreme.

Very soon you will see people celebrating "born again anniversary" every year. I trust Nigerian christians.

cutecommend:
Every salvation experience must come with a valid encounter, situation, happening, place e.t.c, but a person may know the encounter, happening, place and situation, and may not know the exact date. For example, if uneducated people were preached to in a village and they got saved, they may not keep record of the date but may know what happened and the place the salvation encounter happened. So do not judge people who told you of their salvation encounter without ing the exact date.

It is a good thing to know the date you got born again.

Today is another day to have a date for your salvation. So please humbly and genuinely say this: Lord Jesus, today is a good day, please forgive all my sins, come into my heart, break the yokes of sin, be my Lord and personal Saviour in Jesus name. Amen.

Attend a good church.

Happy Sunday to you.

Of what importance is one ing the date of when he became born again?
Will it add any spiritual value to their christian life and living?
When you hear someone's salvation testimony does that mean that person is living right or backslided?
Is it a proof that such person will be raptured when Christ Jesus comes?

Is there any scriptural reference to that?

Knowing the date you got born and having a counterfeit salvation is the worse.

cutecommend:
Every salvation experience must come with a valid encounter, situation, happening, place e.t.c, but a person may know the encounter, happening, place and situation, and may not know the exact date. For example, if uneducated people were preached to in a village and they got saved, they may not keep record of the date but may know what happened and the place the salvation encounter happened. So do not judge people who told you of their salvation encounter without ing the exact date.

It is a good thing to know the date you got born again.

Today is another day to have a date for your salvation. So please humbly and genuinely say this: Lord Jesus, today is a good day, please forgive all my sins, come into my heart, break the yokes of sin, be my Lord and personal Saviour in Jesus name. Amen.

Attend a good church.

Happy Sunday to you.

Possible, if the person is not a good record keeper and not made to . But the person would recall the experience.

Jeez…what kind of error is this?? Quoting scripture erroneously and feeling scripturally correct.

What is the meaning of being a Christian is not for all Christians??
What do you mean by being born again is for the few who will inherit heaven as their permanent abode?
What do you mean by God choosing a man to become a part of the system the person will know??
The Spirit will bear witness with the person’s breath
What do you mean by ….

Please, this is too much error, I beg you.

I know you may love God but please, go back and embrace the tenets of the Christian faith. Please





quote author=MaxInDHouse post=135320688]
Being born again is not for all Christians but few who will inherit heaven as their permanent abode.
Certainly the day God chooses any man to become part of that system such a man will know because the spirit will bear witness with the person's breath {Romans 8:16} that he or she has been chosen to rule with Christ in heaven.
So while all other faithful servants of God inherit everlasting life on earth {Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5} the born again Christians will never become humans again after their earthly course they will become like angels in heaven {Matthew 5:3} with no gender difference! Luke 20:34-36[/quote]

Bfly:



Only someone born of a man sperm could be born again.
What do you mean Jesus became born again?

What did Jesus say about the process of being born again?

Bfly:


I mean thesame Jesus who is in the trinity before the creation of man; who ruled in heaven before coming as man to die for the sin of man. the same Jesus born of Holy Spirit; free from the sin of garden; and still without any sin in him till he died and rose again.


So,
Jesus was not born again; He was baptized by John as a testimony of the one to come and testified of the Father himself through a voice from heaven and a dove which descended.

Where did Jesus claim to be part of a trinity?

femi4:
Heresy...
Jesus didn't get born again when he got baptized. He was already born of the spirit. Infact the baptism was done to fulfill all righteousness cos he wasn't unrighteous

What did Jesus say was the process of being born again?

kachistone:


Jesus was born without sin. So there is no need for him to be born again.

By the way, born has nothing to do with baptism as one can be born again and not be baptized. Although it is better to be baptized after being born again.

The concept of born again was stated in John 3 when Jesus was discussing with Nichodemus.

Jesus was born without sin.

What did Jesus say was the process of being born again in John 3?

btoks:
In this day and age, the born again person would likely have a baptimal certificate showing the date they were baptised. Being born again is from water and holy spirit = baptism. This is clearly taught in John 3:5 and affirmed by early Church Fathers like Justin Martyr and Irenaeus and still carries on to date in Catholic, Orthodox and even Lutheran churches. Evangelicals changed the meaning of being born again - this is a later development.

please read Romans 10:8-17 then come back let's talk.

janeedema:
Jeez…what kind of error is this?? Quoting scripture erroneously and feeling scripturally correct.

What is the meaning of being a Christian is not for all Christians??
What do you mean by being born again is for the few who will inherit heaven as their permanent abode?
What do you mean by God choosing a man to become a part of the system the person will know??
The Spirit will bear witness with the person’s breath
What do you mean by ….

Please, this is too much error, I beg you.

I know you may love God but please, go back and embrace the tenets of the Christian faith. Please

if all born again Christians go to heaven and all bad people go to hell fire, what will happen to the planet earth?

3nity7:
please read Romans 10:8-17 then come back let's talk.

This isnt a new debate and the church has already dealt with this for centuries. It is Faith plus works when the whole bible is read in context not by plucking verses here and there to justify the protestant doctrine of sola fide!.

By quoting Romans 10:8-17 you can't go against Jesus' words in John 3: 5 or Peter words, 'baptism now saves you" in 1 Peter 3:21. Please also see James 2 24 - “You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone”

So, the apotolic Churches believe the teaching about faith in Christ but also emphasise that faith must be expressed through actions and obedience such as baptism.

I'm just curious—what does a specific date have to do with your salvation? Will you really be asked on Judgment Day for the date?

We often stress our minds over things that ultimately don't matter.