MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.
Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.
Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.
You get sense so? When illiterate dummies are allowed to handle the Scriptures, there will be confusion and foolishness everywhere. Are you sure you understand those portions of the Bible? It refers to eating animal blood and raw meat which still has blood dripping off it. It has nothing to do with blood transfusion.
I don't blame you. JW is a dubious cult. They target mental retards. Open up their little brain, then fill it up with a pile of absurdities and falsehoods. I hope you see light someday.
Until the realise that the moment their religious leaders stated components or fractions of blood are acceptable for injection or transfusion makes the doctrine on blood transfusion a senseless policies or procedures where are judged or disciplined based on their conscience.
Exactly!
Sad enough, innocent babies pay the price for their parents' senselessness
While I respect the faiths of others, I am yet to see any sense in some of the things some people do because of faith. The court made the right move. Since the little girl can't give or refuse consent, let her receive the blood. When she's old enough, if such a situation arises again, she can then choose whether or not to accept blood.
If you can allow a patient to refuse blood transfusion in the face of death, why do people always try to stop others from committing suicide?
MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.
Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.
Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.
You misinterpret the bible! The bible warns about eating blood for food (thats daily nutrition). Blood transfusion is not eating blood for food, it is medicine to save lives. Please, dont close your eyes to the lies JW teaches.
I don't comment on any other section on Nairaland except Religion.
My response here is to show everyone that God's law is ahead of scientists so if anyone feels blood transfusion can save him or her it's OK but i will forever object to whatever God says is not good for my health:
"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29
Before this inspiration from God there was prohibition of certain edibles but here God's Holy Spirit is saying we can eat any kind of meat yet blood should be avoided.
WHY?
God's word answered:
For sound health.
So if scientists say they know better than God yet the hazard of obvious and you say you're taking side with scientists it's OK i will always be on God's side in life and in death! Romans 8:38-39
MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.
Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.
Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.
Abstaining from blood as mentioned in the Bible relates to avoiding the consumption of blood and not rejection of blood transfusion. The Genesis 9:4 quoted by you as well as the more detailed Leviticus 17:10-16 clearly specify the abstention from blood relating to not eating blood because the life of the animal is in the blood.
The decision to equate abstaining from blood to rejection of blood transfusion is an interpretation specific to Jehovah's Witnesses, which in my opinion has no sound Biblical basis.
The word "abstain" in English means to refrain from doing or enjoying something. How do you enjoy blood aside from eating? Is a person being transfused blood enjoying the blood? Definitely NO. It is usually a matter of life and death in blood transfusions.
The basis as repeatedly highlighted through the Bible for abstaining from blood is that blood is sacred and is the life of the animal and therefore should be respected and not consumed like other food. In transfusion blood, it is more or less synonymous to giving life which aligns with the respect for blood highlighted through the Bible.
And that is why when Jesus talks about consuming his flesh and drinking his blood in Holy Communion, it is not strange to us Christians because he is the source that gives life to us.
Those who reject blood transfusion in life-saving scenarios are the kind of people that would condemn Jesus for healing on the Sabbath and see themselves as more "godly" than others in keeping or enforcingthe Sabbath. Yet we know the response of Jesus to those set of people in the Bible.
MaxInDHouse:
I don't comment on any other section on Nairaland except Religion.
My response here is to show everyone that God's law is ahead of scientists so if anyone feels blood transfusion can save him or her it's OK but i will forever object to whatever God says is not good for my health:
"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29
Before this inspiration from God there was prohibition of certain edibles but here God's Holy Spirit is saying we can eat any kind of meat yet blood should be avoided.
WHY?
God's word answered:
For sound health.
So if scientists say they know better than God yet the hazard of obvious and you say you're taking side with scientists it's OK i will always be on God's side in life and in death! Romans 8:38-39
MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.
Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.
Truly, religion successfully set so many backwards including you.
Genesis 9:4 states, "But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it". So, how does this relates to human blood transfusion into another human? I donates blood at least once a year to help people.
Lying against people does not make you wise nor prove any of your points.
Or maybe you're mixing up different people.
They do not refuse medical care and believe that Jehova would heal the child as you said.
It's unfortunate in 2025 that to a typical Nigerian, the thought of refusing blood transfusion sounds like refusing treatment altogether because of how moribund the successive governments have rendered both our education and medical sectors.
Heart surgeries, caesarian sections etc have been done without blood transfusion.
Faith or Religion is not the only basis for refusal of certain practices in medicine around the world but that's another story.
Blood transfusion is the bedrock of many medical practices globally, not just Nigeria. These procedures you listed can be done bloodlessly but its not every center that offers it and the costs are astronomical
Complications for consent not granted by the family. Even if the court grants it, you're still involved if they sue. You took the mater to court yourself. What the court just did is a breach of human right and can be countered by a higher court. The court has no right to decide medical issues for the family. They are other safer ways of treating people without blood but they forced their opinion on the family.
Allow the family chose their type of complications to deal with.
The doctor is still not liable. You obviously don't know how legal proceedings happen [i][/i]
Oga, I'm quoting an experienced transfusion practioner who is not a Jehovah's witness yet she said she will never accept blood transfusion in Nigeria.
Whatever he says is his opinion. Stick to evidence. What he says is not true, whether he's a doctor or not. Ask many doctors and also research yourself [i][/i]
Noted
The article isn't far from what we have been saying. Blood transfusion has cons, but the pros outweigh it. We are always trying to make it safer everyday
Jehovah’s Witnesses are a satanic cult operating under the guise of a church. Their doctrines have led countless thousands, if not millions, to hell. Please leave that organization if you are still a member.
MaxInDHouse:
I don't comment on any other section on Nairaland except Religion.
My response here is to show everyone that God's law is ahead of scientists so if anyone feels blood transfusion can save him or her it's OK but i will forever object to whatever God says is not good for my health:
"For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!” Act 15:28-29
Before this inspiration from God there was prohibition of certain edibles but here God's Holy Spirit is saying we can eat any kind of meat yet blood should be avoided.
WHY?
God's word answered:
For sound health.
So if scientists say they know better than God yet the hazard of obvious and you say you're taking side with scientists it's OK i will always be on God's side in life and in death! Romans 8:38-39
MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.
Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.
Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.
The same God created carnivorous animals with only meats with fresh and live blood as their only food.
Before men discovered fire to cook those meats, humans have been eating live blood with meats. God did not make provision for fire for cooking as at the time He created men.
Fire was discovered thousands of years thereafter.
All Religion books needs immediate evaluation to uproot the foundation of confusion it has planted into the psyche of humanity.
Nigerian Constitution respects people's faith and their decisions on health matters. As for the minor children their parents' decision is binding on them.However if the child is 14 or 16 ,he has becomes a minor adult who can speak for himself. A lot of judgements in Nigeria up to Appeal Courts and Supreme Court have been given to the right of Jehovah's witnesses to practice their religion according to their conception including their objection to blood transfusion.
Modern medicine has gone beyond blood transfusion because of the risks it possesses.Bloodless surgeries are most preferred by many doctors both abroad and in Nigeria. A woman who is a JW was operated upon some weeks ago in Nigeria.She is hale and hearty after the bloodless surgery.
Let us see what we happen after this exparte order by the magistrate who seems not to be aware of the extent judgements in related cases in Nigeria
You didn't even cite one case to your position. If i am your sibling and you do this to my nephew i will make sure i thrown you behind bars for as long as possible before you start thinking right.
Be ready to take care of the complications too should it go south. Cos the parents have the right to sue you for going against their wish and putting them in a mess of taking care of complications.
Reading and comprehension are two different skills, the duse said obtain a court order before treating and you are here still saying they will go to court should anything goa south? How you dey carry read? When a court gives an order the Doctor has no liabilities to carry all liabilities will be on the parents.
jmichael259:
Blood transfusion itself is not treatment and in a sane country, things can be done without it.
It might be fewer but it's not unusual nor unheard of for people to refuse chemotherapy, invasive surgery, transplants, resuscitation, blood transfusion etc
The sad part of this is that this is a country where Doctors are still using 1945 methodologies. They don't know any other things to do in such situations in case of
unavailability(which is a frequent occurrence
in our hospitals) or refusal of transfusion. They don't have plasma and other blood replenishment or blood recycling equipment, they don't even know what those things look like.
[b]For the people involved in this particular matter, having to wait till now to attempt to remove the child is a sign of being unprepared or even negligent. The child should have been gone at the first sign of opposition or inability to ister treatment. You have no business there in the first place if you did your homework or actually aligned with the people of your fath.
Do not get pregnant and have kids if you cannot think, plan and save ahead. If the child has a condition or your faith denies some treatment methods then you should have arranged such matters with hospital liaison committees long time ago. A prepared person has no business being in a place where outsiders are now trying to impose, veto or retrace steps for you.
Fortunately, There are thousands of modern hospitals and doctors with experience to cater for these and many more cases such as Laser removal of kidney Stones without surgery, alternative care without chemotherapy, treatment without blood etc
Do not use faith as excuse for blood transfusion if you'll fail to monitor and comply with precautionary measures against drop in blood levels or having emergency s of similar faith doctors or hospitals that are able to handle your case. A person whose faith doesn't allow meat, will go out of their way to find and learn to prepare nutritious and strengthening vegetable based meals.[/b]
How many of JW have 500k and above in their bank ? 5% if not less. With this a lot will unalive with their religious reasoning
Does your common sense over ride the creator's guidelines?na common sense wey Adam and Eve use na im put us all for the one we dey so o...on Sunday now u go go church,but see now, you're downplaying the bible's importance in our daily decision making.
The third guy u mentioned with cancer,sad to say,if still he had come earlier he would still have died.the fact is blood transfusion in it self does not guarantee survival,I've seen many non Jws who wouldn't take a transfusion...in this part of the world u guys hardly make any progress as it concerns medical care, overseas bloodless surgery is the way making blood transfusion almost a forgotten thing..if somewhere in Canada an adult can walk in somewhere and request to be put to death voluntarily why can't an adult Jw object to blood transfusion? It's a personal stuff,that's how I see it.
While I respect the faiths of others, I am yet to see any sense in some of the things some people do because of faith. The court made the right move. Since the little girl can't give or refuse consent, let her receive the blood. When she's old enough, if such a situation arises again, she can then choose whether or not to accept blood.
I one JW patient I had. We were to operate her ovarian cyst which had twisted. She is a full-blown adult in her early twenties. Parents refused to consent for transfusion if need be. I personally counseled them, but they remained adamant. I somehow noticed that the girl was uneasy and scared. I targeted her...when the parents weren't around and I went back to talk to her. She said she didn't care, and would want to be transfused if need be..she just didn't want to OFFEND HER PARENTS. She consented behind their backs....but thankfully, we didn't need to transfuse.
I've also seen situations where some witnesses consent to blood transfusion secretly. One gave consent, but told us not to allow any visitor until we were done.
One guy, young boy. He had a cancer that had spread. He came to clinic paper-white pale. We immediately asked to it and optimize him. He refused transfusion. After going back and forth, he finally accepted, but it was somehow too late. We lost him.
Religion, so far, has caused more harm than good, I think.
MaxInDHouse:
In this side of the world people acting on what they have little or no knowledge about is common.
Blood Transfusion is no longer tenable as a safe means of treatment around the world.
Though God has warned His worshipers thousands of years ago to abstain from blood {Genesis 9:4} stating it'll guarantee good health {Act 15:28-29} but faithless people feels the book (Bible) shouldn't be the sole determinant of whatever they choose to do with their lives as it's an old book written by people they don't know.
Today health practitioners around the world are enlightening their people against the hazards of blood transfusion.
you need to be de-radicalized and that Jehovah witness should be renamed church of scientology
Are you aware of the cost and unavailability of bloodless surgery on Nigeria? Of course not.
Also in emergency situations like post partum hemorrhages and massive traumatic hemorrhage, what should we do?
Are you aware of the cost of marriage, buying cars or building houses in Nigeria? Of course not.
Also in emergency cases like infidelity, fire outbreaks or collapse, what should we do?
Blood transfusion is the bedrock of many medical practices False in 2025
These procedures you listed can be done bloodlessly but its not every center that offers it and the costs are astronomical self contradiction
The same God created carnivorous animals with only meats with fresh and live blood as their only food.
Before men discovered fire to cook those meats, humans have been eating live blood with meats. God did not make provision for fire for cooking as at the time He created men.
Fire was discovered thousands of years thereafter.
All Religion books needs immediate evaluation to uproot the foundation of confusion it has planted into the psyche of humanity.
