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Theflint1:
Of course there'd always be dull science students that social science/management students will bench, but point is, that on average...

Smart Science Students > Smart Social/Management Students
Average Science Students > Average Social/Management Students
Olodo Science Students > Olodo Social/Management Students

Keyword being on average

I hope u people don’t actually believe this nonsense in real life sha . 😂

Dathypebruv:


I ibime's claim about class separation right from JSS, I went to a federal unity school in delta so I can attest about about majority of students would rather be in science or struggle at least for it na only those wey head nor carry am go give up to arts or commercial.

I no even know wetin some bros dey argue. Dis one na common knowledge

Even ission officers in universities sometimes guage students based on the difficulty of courses they took and not just the nominal GPA they're presenting.

BlueRayDick:


I hope u people don’t actually believe this nonsense in real life sha . 😂

Inside that your Evian, another Evian dey inside

Amoto94:

I had this story of Bezos in mind on how difficult some courses are even for the brightest of minds, Bezos had a problem solving an equation and within minutes of taking same question to Yosantha man called Cosine as the answer.
I studied statistics but have helped an aunt with assignments on political science and she aced the assignments. First one I collaborated with a political science grad the other one I did it by myself. I argued why I think APC will win 2015 Presidential Election citing merger, general dissatisfaction about insecurity and economy, and violation of rotation principle.
I barely attending Entrepreneur, Philosophy and Logic and Nigeria peoples and Culture classes but ed them by attempting past questions a day before, .my attempts to do same in other science courses landed me poor grades or carryover that plagued my life in school.

True talk, and when it starts to look impossible to differentiate between bright minds, you reduce the time of testing even further, there'd always be a way to differentiate between the sharpest of minds.

Theflint1:
I think the question should be how the greatest sociologist or management student would fare taking elite science exams, even with preparation.

There's a reason you almost never have science/management students doing cross-over into sciences while the reverse is the case.

Its almost like na trans men dey always go female sports go chance them, no Trans woman don ever attempt to men sports

Khaki no be leather

Ibime:


Voltron of the Arts

No be talk, we did it. Most of my Maths courses were revised in one week max, some in one night. My Partial Differential Equations exam was sewn up from scratch in 3 days with 96% mark, you dey talk about social sciences wey we go use 2 hours memorise everything for the whole semester.

In ing exams, we had Enterprise, Management and Financial pillars. Never spent more than one overnight session on Enterprise and Management modules, na Financial modules we dey spend like 3 days on.

I have a friend who is now in Angola who studied tourism degree. I did every single one of his coursework and had him on course for 1st class, the nugga fvcked it up back to 2.2 with his performance in exams. Funny enough he is the nigga I am always arguing with about Ibrahima Traore, bloody art student

Don't compare memorisation skills with science students please. Niggas done see blood for eye. I am a particularly lazy student who only gears up in exam week, have done that my whole life. ing exams especially the non-numeric ones were like walk in the Park after tackling heavy Maths exams up to Masters level at one or few days notice. Na Kola nut and redbull we dey use write Maths exam, zero sleep the night before having left revision till last minute. But if na arts course, we will sleep like baby, wake up 5 am, read for 2 hours and exam without attending one lesson all semester. I am speaking from experience because my degree was 3/4 Maths, 1/4 Economics. Never attended Economics lessons because they clashed with my Maths modules and were too easy to catch up on.

When i dey OAU, there was a course Computer/Econs
Where like half the course work is in Engineering and the other half in Social sciences

When Engineering faculty don destroy GPA finish, the boys dey always use the social science courses to boost their GPA

In my set when KPMG came to hire on campus of the top 10 students like 8 were Engineering students and 2 from faculty of science. The social science wey be say na the place wey dem dey eye to work all came in suits, dey gawk the aptitude test

Engineering boys wey just wear palm slippers go destroy the test and their first choices for jobs was oil companies. The number 1 guy for that test na Seun classmate, is now at ExxonMobil has been for like 20yrs now.

Seun Electrical Enectrinics class were particularly crazy smart. One of them was No2atheism that used to post here like 15yrs ago

BlueRayDick:

So u don’t see Ibime who is a first class science graduate making himself both the sample and population of the data set Abi , na when I speak for management/social sciences u Dey point out outlier

I am neither the sample nor population cos I was never 1st nor top 3 in secondary school

My carrying 1st ended in Primary 1 or Primary 2

In JSS, I place top 10, sometimes top 12 in a bad semester. I can argue I would come 4th if I worked hard but there were 3 people clearly better than me. The two guys that drag number 1 and 2 are lawyer and banker now and the 3rd girl (who always came 1st in Maths without fail) is an Engineer in USA

There is not one person in our class of 30 who ended up in Arts at Senior Secondary, not a single one. A few guys from Class B stepped up into Science but Class C and D fully into Arts. Like I said, we done know ourselves right from JSS 1

Theflint1:
I think the question should be how the greatest sociologist or management student would fare taking elite science exams, even with preparation.

There's a reason you almost never have science/management students doing cross-over into sciences while the reverse is the case.

How are you pulling imaginary conclusions like "you almost never have" out of thin air?
Ahn ahn

Ibime:


Wetin you dey yarn sef?

Is there anywhere class A students gravitate more toward Arts than Sciences?

Na Rivers State I dey, which one be Delta. And no be only una get school

So you are telling me that in Delta where Oil industry is the main game in town, sharp students will rather gravitate towards Arts than Science/Engineering that pays in oil industry. Maybe Delta boys dull, not Rivers boys

When did oil work in Delta State become a major reason to be in science class?
Which conversation do you think we were having in secondary school that our interest for ing science class was to work in O&G.
This is why I said you don't know beyond your immediate environment and you are basing that as general knowledge.
Abeg nau

On this issue of STEM Vs non-STEM, I've shared it here before.
STEm is simply higher than non-STEM. Some bros here might disagree though.
I studied a STEM course(maths), some years later, took UTME and now studying the social sciences(Psychology). I cannot even lie, the difference is as clear as daylight.
Despite the fact that I was much younger, had no responsibilities and had sponsors, I had to study a whole LOT to get decent grades whereas in this Psychology, where responsibilities choke, trying to hustle, I'm basically crusing and still perform well.

I had to take my class tutorials in Stats on topics like correlation, regression etc-topics they find very difficult and looks like Greek to them- whereas, these are just basic in maths.

The difficulty level for both(STEM & non-STEM) are miles apart, abeg.

Ibime:


Voltron of the Arts

No be talk, we did it. Most of my Maths courses were revised in one week max, some in one night. My Partial Differential Equations exam was sewn up from scratch in 3 days with 96% mark, you dey talk about social sciences wey we go use 2 hours memorise everything for the whole semester.

In ing exams, we had Enterprise, Management and Financial pillars. Never spent more than one overnight session on Enterprise and Management modules, na Financial modules we dey spend like 3 days on.

I have a friend who is now in Angola who studied tourism degree. I did every single one of his coursework and had him on course for 1st class, the nugga fvcked it up back to 2.2 with his performance in exams. Funny enough he is the nigga I am always arguing with about Ibrahima Traore, bloody art student

Don't compare memorisation skills with science students please. Niggas done see blood for eye. I am a particularly lazy student who only gears up in exam week, have done that my whole life. ing exams especially the non-numeric ones were like walk in the Park after tackling heavy Maths exams up to Masters level at one or few days notice. Na Kola nut and redbull we dey use write Maths exam, zero sleep the night before having left revision till last minute. But if na arts course, we will sleep like baby, wake up 5 am, read for 2 hours and exam without attending one lesson all semester. I am speaking from experience because my degree was 3/4 Maths, 1/4 Economics. Never attended Economics lessons because they clashed with my Maths modules and were too easy to catch up on.

Brother, what you did was basic classes for subjective courses.
When you begin to get into the advanced stage that requires you to have a proper foundation then you'll tell me how you can the exams by reading under a week.
There is nobody that is that smart unless you have a photographic memory or genius level intellect and you still need alot of studying to either a science or art course.


See mumu argument "A final year physicist will the course of a final year political science if he reads it in one week" you think that volume of course load is for fancy. The way you go fail ehn.

You are gonna fail so bad

bolu96:
On this issue of STEM Vs non-STEM, I've shared it here before.
STEm is simply higher than non-STEM. Some bros here might disagree though.
I studied a STEM course(maths), some years later, took UTME and now studying the social sciences(Psychology). I cannot even lie, the difference is as clear as daylight.
Despite the fact that I was much younger, had no responsibilities and had sponsors, I had to study a whole LOT to get decent grades whereas in this Psychology, where responsibilities choke, trying to hustle, I'm basically crusing and still perform well.

I had to take my class tutorials in Stats on topics like correlation, regression etc-topics they find very difficult and looks like Greek to them- whereas, these are just basic in maths.

The difficulty level for both(STEM & non-STEM) are miles apart, abeg.

All of this na story .

Did u cop the highest CGPA in the class while those from non-STEM background are on 3rd class ?

bolu96:
On this issue of STEM Vs non-STEM, I've shared it here before.
STEm is simply higher than non-STEM. Some bros here might disagree though.
I studied a STEM course(maths), some years later, took UTME and now studying the social sciences(Psychology). I cannot even lie, the difference is as clear as daylight.
Despite the fact that I was much younger, had no responsibilities and had sponsors, I had to study a whole LOT to get decent grades whereas in this Psychology, where responsibilities choke, trying to hustle, I'm basically crusing and still perform well.

I had to take my class tutorials in Stats on topics like correlation, regression etc-topics they find very difficult and looks like Greek to them- whereas, these are just basic in maths.

The difficulty level for both(STEM & non-STEM) are miles apart, abeg.

Lmao there are people that love numbers but cannot hack writing because of its subjective nature. The subjective nature makes it seem like you are writing correct answers meanwhile it's incorrect but due to similarities.
There's a reason I used nebosh IGC as an example.

You go do the basic level come think say you fit follow person wey dey advanced level sharp teeth.
Like BlueRayDick said, who smart don smart.
A smart art student will also ace basic level science courses with minimum study.

That one holds more recognition doesn't mean the others are not as difficult at the highest level

There's a reason the most renowned scientists in history excelled in the Arts too, but those whose primary areas were the Arts didn't make headway or never dabbled into the sciences.

Einstein, Newton, Kepler, Plato et al were excellent and found the arts easy as philosophers, sociologists and poets.

I've out-argued lawyers on contemporary history and global sociopolitics a thousand times and over. And it's not just me. I've out-debated those who studied political science and philosophy. I've coached those who studied linguistics and English language. And I'm not an outlier - there so many in STEM areas who do same.

Nobody is downplaying the Arts but in of rigorousity, it pales in comparison to STEM. It is what it is. Barcelona and Spartak Moscow are not the same even when they play in the UCL.

liveLongNprospa:

Brother, what you did was basic classes for subjective courses.
When you begin to get into the advanced stage that requires you to have a proper foundation then you'll tell me how you can the exams by reading under a week.
There is nobody that is that smart unless you have a photographic memory or genius level intellect and you still need alot of studying to either a science or art course.


See mumu argument "A final year physicist will the course of a final year political science if he reads it in one week" you think that volume of course load is for fancy. The way you go fail ehn.

You are gonna fail so bad

Some of their talking points are just so infantile . I mean the kind of stuff u would expect SS2 science students bragging about , not full grown adults who have been through life with multiple degrees . 🤦‍♂️

U see small UTME government experiment we run earlier today that is even a multiple choice examination style ; we saw how well it ended .

Fields wey people study to PhD level become professors , somebody go say because he has a STEM background he will read 48 hours and ace the exam 😂. People Dey talk sha

liveLongNprospa:
You go do the basic level come think say you fit follow person wey dey advanced level sharp teeth.
Like BlueRayDick said, who smart don smart.
A smart art student will also ace basic level science courses with minimum study

That one holds more recognition doesn't mean the others are not as difficult at the highest level

You no lie bro

liveLongNprospa:

See mumu argument "A final year physicist will the course of a final year political science if he reads it in one week" you think that volume of course load is for fancy. The way you go fail ehn

My bro forget this talk.

A final year Physics student will dust Political Science MASTERS level in one week and come out with first class.

No be yarns, speaking from personal experience my wife studied that same Political Science (International Relations), came out with 2.1 and won't touch me in any Political science talk. Infact she won't know the basis of the Political discussion half the time

From personal experience, i did Masters in Applied Maths, and many of my coursemates had Physics first degree. That's when I knew Physics students had much better Maths than Maths students. I ended up copying most of their coursework to survive.

liveLongNprospa:
You go do the basic level come think say you fit follow person wey dey advanced level sharp teeth.
Like BlueRayDick said, who smart don smart.
A smart art student will also ace basic level science courses with minimum study.

That one holds more recognition doesn't mean the others are not as difficult at the highest level

Una wey dey argue against still get point sha but this Abeg na

liveLongNprospa:


How are you pulling imaginary conclusions like "you almost never have" out of thin air?
Ahn ahn

Even on this board, there are many science students that now work in management science fields... where are the management/social science students working as scientists, or getting post-graduate degrees in the sciences?

I'm not saying there aren't one or two persons that made that switch, but it's very very rare.

Amigoss:


Una wey dey argue against still get point sha but this Abeg na

Anybody that read that Prospa's post will know he knows the truth, but for some reason wants to be contrian.

liveLongNprospa:


When did oil work in Delta State become a major reason to be in science class?
Which conversation do you think we were having in secondary school that our interest for ing science class was to work in O&G.
This is why I said you don't know beyond your immediate environment and you are basing that as general knowledge.
Abeg nau

I don't know which school you went but many of our Parents in my school in PH were connected to oil industry or could see that many people making it in PH were doing so from oil industry

Of the top 3 in my class I referenced earlier, No 3 father worked for Shell, No 2 father was an ant who worked with oil companies and also ran for Governor, while No1 father was a Director in Civil Service and ended up as Perm Sec before he died, though I'm not sure what his specialisation was though his relative is Lulu Briggs who was a Don in oil industry. Oil industry or Engineers children full everywhere. At least 5 in my class from Shell.

Amigoss:


Una wey dey argue against still get point sha but this Abeg na

liveLongNprospa:


Lmao there are people that love numbers but cannot hack writing because of its subjective nature. The subjective nature makes it seem like you are writing correct answers meanwhile it's incorrect but due to similarities.
There's a reason I used nebosh IGC as an example.

You're right on this.

liveLongNprospa:
You go do the basic level come think say you fit follow person wey dey advanced level sharp teeth.
Like BlueRayDick said, who smart don smart.
A smart art student will also ace basic level science courses with minimum study.

That one holds more recognition doesn't mean the others are not as difficult at the highest level

Them never born am reach. E get why e run go arts

BlueRayDick:


All of this na story .

Did u cop the highest CGPA in the class while those from non-STEM background are on 3rd class ?

Actually, the people from non-STEM background are not finding it easy.

Theflint1:
Even on this board, there are many science students that now work in management science fields... where are the management/social science students working as scientists, or getting post-graduate degrees in the sciences?

I'm not saying there aren't one or two persons that made that switch, but it's very very rare.

Dey play !

There are several Nigerians who were ants , HR professionals , etc who are now Registred Nurses abroad . Abi nursing no be sciences ?

Read this lady’s story for example

https://avanthealthcare.com/blog/healthcare-professionals/dream-become-inspire-meet-chinyere-rn-.stml#

I even get former neighbor who was working in a financial institution here in Lagos before she left Naija ; today she’s RN in America . She even studied an education course in the varsity that had absolutely nothing to do with science . I didn’t use her example because some people may think it’s a made-up story to win an argument .

People in the management sciences in Nigeria don’t cross to science because there are enough well paying jobs in the management sciences compared to pure , applied and medical sciences . Doctors don’t even earn well like bankers .

Na money Dey affect these decisions in Nigeria not some imaginary reasons u guys are coming up with .

bolu96:

You're right on this.

He's not wrong, but you'd agree that people that most of the people that chose the arts didn't do so because they were good writers either. For secondary school then, a fair chunk of the writers that represented the school in essay writing competitions were pooled from science classes.

Theflint1:
He's not wrong, but you'd agree that people that the people that most of the people that chose the arts didn't do so because they were good writers either. For secondary school then, a fair chunk of the writers that represented the school in essay writing competitions were pooled from science classes.

No lie told. It was always the Science students representing their house or school in Literary and Debating Society or inter house or school debates. If it didn't dey, it didn't dey!

Theflint1:
He's not wrong, but you'd agree that people that the people that most of the people that chose the arts didn't do so because they were good writers either. For secondary school then, a fair chunk of the writers that represented the school in essay writing competitions were pooled from science classes.

Yes, I agree with you. I had classmates who were in science classes and were better writers than the Arts students themselves.

bolu96:

Actually, the people from non-STEM background are not finding it easy.

No , u are side-stepping the question .

Let me rephrase my question, please answer me as truthfully as u can:

You are from a STEM background who went back to put in for a behavioral science degree program at B.Sc level and u are taking ur course mates tutorials in stats , maths and other STEM based courses right ? Is ur current CGPA the highest in ur department and level as we speak ? Or do u have someone who is from non-STEM background currently topping the class ?