NewStats: 3,259,549 , 8,170,475 topics. Date: Sunday, 25 May 2025 at 02:29 PM t6z15

Ojiofor:


My point exactly.
Citizens of same country can't be treated like foreign migrants within the country

Nigeria, as a country, constitute myriad nations with each nation having its own seperate culture, history, traditions, language, heritage etc.

So, as a "Nigerian" from yorubaland , I will not go to Anambra state and say, because am Nigerian that automatcally confers on me the right to meddle in the internal political affairs of Anambra state even though, am aware, I have no knowledge of their customs, language etc.

That's just akin to looking for trouble! We are all Nigerians within a federation (of nations) and each nation is semi-autonomous.

T9ksy:



Am sorry to say this, but the reasons you proffered above to quelling tribalism in nigeria are quite lame, to say the least. All the points you made are already in existence that no du.mb bill will accentuate its acceptability. In fact, one nigeria is a scam!

One nigeria means different things to all nigerians. To the northerners, their concept of one nigeria is North for northerners, East for easterners, West for westerners and we ALL eventually meets at the centre. On the other hand, our eastern brothers assume that , it means they can leave their region and go and lord it over other region/s in the federation. The westerners' views are in line with the northerners.

We are not One. We can never be One. We are different peoples living within a geographical area of the world. I don't know about you but i am con tent being a yoruba man and i have no wish or desire to jettison all that makes me a yoruba man just so i can become a nigerian. Hell No.

You mentioned all the points I made are already in existence. Have they implemented the bill? How could my point be in existence when they haven't yet implemented the bill? My reasons are not yet lame because the bill hasn't been implemented yet and we don't yet know the outcome. Therefore your statement lacks reasoning and logic.

Nefort:

How do you expect the natives to be wiped? The natives will always be very much higher in population so how exactly will that wipe out happen? You mean Yorubas will go and wipe out the Igbos in the east and the Igbos will go and wipe out the Yorubas in the west? Does that make sense to you? Some of you just talk without using your brains.

No use talking to a mentally challenged person. It's a miracle you wake up everyday to showcase it to the realm.

CyrusVI:


The way you people talk ehn, one would think all 50m Yorubas are living in Lagos. You are quick to bring Lagos into any random discussion. The Obsessions is real

Some of us dont give an F about Lagos. We just want our own state of origin to solely belong to us.

ILagos aside, There are more Igbos in Akure here than there are Yoruas in the entire SE. That we dont fancy that uselesss inflitration has nothing to do with Lagos


Any small thing 'Lagos'. Like say una no dey everywhere for SW or Yorubas outside Lagos no plenty the ones for Lagos

you dey mind them. People wey dey farm for our villages here dey talk say na only Lagos. Foolish people

jidemilo:
Politics aside the bill make a lot sense

It does NOT make any sense because;

1) Nobody can grant indigenship, FG or National Assembly can NOT grant indigenship . . . it is natural.

Indigenship cab NOT be enforced just as love and unity can NOT be enforced.

2) Citizenship is not the same thing ad indigenship.

Sodiq Khan (Long term Mayor of London), Rishi Sunak (Former Prime Minister) and Kemi Badenoch (Leader of Tory Party) became British citizens because they were born in the UK but they never became indigenes of England .

Only English peoples are indigenes of England.

DMerciful:
You cannot want Nigeria to remain as one country without wanting one Nigeria. They're not mutually exclusive!

Yoruba ronus, it's either Nigeria stay as one country where every citizen has equal rights or Nigeria disintegrate and every go to their ethnic nationality as a small independent country

You people don't think DEEPLY about major moves.


You wrongly assume that this would be restricted to Lagos and other Yoruba States but you are dead wrong.

By the time, you start seeing Justice Tajudeen Ishola, Justice Ibrahim Mukthair and Justice Binta Aminu representing Anambra, Imo and Abia States in the Supreme Court or Chief Denis Obahiagbon appointed as Minister to represent Ebonyi, it would be too late to shout marginalisation since, everybody would now be equal and they can claim indigenship of these States, having lived there for ten years.

Indigenship evolve through ancestries and cultural assimilation, not legislation.

For instance, Sen Fatai Buhari (APC, Oyo North) is an illustrious indigene of Ogbomosho BUT he is a descendant of 18th century Fulani settler in Ogbomosho. Today he is a proud Yoruba man.


Gov Umar Bago is a Nupe indigene but his family is originally from Fulani Jihardists that settled and assimilated into Nupe society.

OMEGA009:
A “UK parliamentarian” is talking about indigenship? Isn’t that funny? Holding a piece of govt in a foreign land but stopping other foreigners from holding one in yours? Please define hypocrisy again?

The bill goes beyond holding political posts.

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The real reason for recurring crisis in Southern Kaduna and the Middle Belt is the attempts by the Hausa-Fulanis to become indigenes of these places and enjoy rights and privileges of indigenes including ancestral claims to lands.

If you tell the Berom, Ngas or Anaguta, Agatu or Tiv that you want the Fulanis to become indigenes of their States, you would be beaten mercilessly.

Nefort:

How do you expect the natives to be wiped? The natives will always be very much higher in population so how exactly will that wipe out happen? You mean Yorubas will go and wipe out the Igbos in the east and the Igbos will go and wipe out the Yorubas in the west? Does that make sense to you? Some of you just talk without using your brains.

Read about histories of Turkey, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, USA,Egypt and the whole of North Africa etc

MattChidi:
This is a welcome development. It will increase integration and development of host communities even better because they will feel more connected to it. Anything that would bring about a progressive Nigeria, i am open for it.

It would cause greater problems than solutions.

Few large tribes, who obviously would be the ones controlling the FG could use it to strategically position their people across Nigeria both geographically and politically.

Read how Hausa-Fulanis settlers in Jos used the influence of their people in the FG to create Jos North LGA, which is predominantly for themselves.
They now use slots of Plateau State to gain employment and even political appointments.

In 2009, President Yar'Adua appointed a Kano man as a Minister from Plateau State. Indigenes of Plateau protested but all their protests fell to deaf ears.


In 2011, GEJ appointed Olusegun Aganga (originally from Edo State) a Minister from Lagos. Hon Femi Gbajabiamila moved a motion that he isn't an indigene of Lagos State but nobody listened to him.

Unfortunately, you are either in a country or you're not. If Yorubas want exclusivity, they have to do it in Yoruba nation

oyatz:


You people don't think DEEPLY about major moves.


You wrongly assume that this would be restricted to Lagos and other Yoruba States but you are dead wrong.

By the time, you start seeing Justice Tajudeen Ishola, Justice Ibrahim Mukthair and Justice Binta Aminu representing Anambra, Imo and Abia States in the Supreme Court or Chief Denis Obahiagbon appointed as Minister to represent Ebonyi, it would be too late to shout marginalisation since, everybody would now be equal and they can claim indigenship of these States, having lived there for ten years.

Indigenship evolve through ancestries and cultural assimilation, not legislation.

For instance, Sen Fatai Buhari (APC, Oyo North) is an illustrious indigene of Ogbomosho BUT he is a descendant of 18th century Fulani settler in Ogbomosho. Today he is a proud Yoruba man.


Gov Umar Bago is a Nupe indigene but his family is originally from Fulani Jihardists that settled and assimilated into Nupe society.

CyrusVI:



It has nothing to do with Black People. The OP mentioned close to 10 countries and none is Africa

I guess China is Black too

By the way, There is no scientifically proven correlation with Nationlism/territorialism and Skin colo

Read wide and make more researches. Most of us here are far smarter than you can ever be.

We're not even talking about outsiders becoming Nigerians right now, we're talking about Nigerians being allow to be citizens where ever they're found.

DMerciful:
Unfortunately, you are either in a country or you're not. If Yorubas want exclusivity, they have to do it in Yoruba nation

You are fixated on Yorubas, instead of try to read and comprehend the issues raised.

Look at UK, despite 800 years of colonialism, coexistence, subjugation and inter-marriages, the Irish people haven't become English.



Yoruba is NOT the only people in Nigeria.
As a matter of fact, it would favour the Yoruba but ,by nature ,Yoruba aren't interested in becoming indigenes of other States.


It would put so many minority tribes in serious jeopardy.


In short, this law is dead on arrival.

Apart from Igbos and may be Fulanis, over 70% of Nigerians would oppose it.

Irish have Ireland, English have England! UK is a lose confederation.

Yoruba needs Yoruba nation for exclusivity. As long as you're in a country,
all citizens have equal right to vote and be voted for anywhere in Nigeria

oyatz:


You are fixated on Yorubas, instead of try to read and comprehend the issues raised.

Look at UK, despite 800 years of colonialism, coexistence, subjugation and inter-marriages, the Irish people haven't become English.



Yoruba is NOT the only people in Nigeria.
As a matter of fact, it would favour the Yoruba but ,by nature ,Yoruba aren't interested in becoming indigenes of other States.


It would put so many minority tribes in serious jeopardy.


In short, this law is dead on arrival.

Apart from Igbos and may be Fulanis, over 70% of Nigerians would oppose it.

oyatz:


Read about histories of Turkey, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, USA,Egypt and the whole of North Africa etc

Granting political rights to people who have resided in particular state for some years doesn't in any way translate to ethnic cleansing or genocide. Those examples you mentioned are something entirely different from the subject matter.

Ojiofor:
The writer said non indigenes should vote only in their states of origin...
Then why are Tinubu's from other Yoruba states ruling Lagos state or it does not apply to Lagos?

Oyamiri cursed people why are you not satisfy for being an Igbo person

jidemilo:
Politics aside the bill make a lot sense

Stay and represent your cursed south east

Bookhub:
Na fear of igbos na him motivate this write up

How many people of different tribes reside in Igbo land, talk less of afraid of being chase out from Igbo land.

Mumu

Cabalgeneral:


Oyamiri cursed people why are you not satisfy for being an Igbo person

Your generation is cursed onye ara.

Nefort:

Granting political rights to people who have resided in particular state for some years doesn't in any way translate to ethnic cleansing or genocide. Those examples you mentioned are something entirely different from the subject matter.

The constitution of Nigeria already grant citizenship rights to ALL Nigerians.

You only need to be citizens to run for elections.


However, indigenship of a town or kingdom is by ancestries and cultural identities.

If you want to become indigene of Ilesha, you become an Ilesha person by adoption of their language, culture and ways of life.

You can NOT retain your ethnic identity and still want to be regarded as indigenes of other peoples ancestral homelands. This is fraudulent.

DMerciful:
Irish have Ireland, English have England! UK is a lose confederation.

Yoruba needs Yoruba nation for exclusivity. As long as you're in a country,
all citizens have equal right to vote and be voted for anywhere in Nigeria

I never said all citizens don't have rights but they aren't the same as indigenes.

Benjamin Kalu's Bill try aim at 'making non-indigenes to become indigenes'


This is very laughable.


Suppose ,Ikemefuna and Umar Aldo who have lived in

Benue State since 2010, without becoming Tiv or Idoma, want to become indigenes of Benue State, who will confer indigenship on them?

1) President

2) Governor of Benue State

3) Local Government chairman of their place of residence

4) Traditional Rulers of the towns they live in

5) Benjamin Kalu

Indigenship ,just as love or unity can NOT be created by legislation.

Caseless:
We're not even talking about outsiders becoming Nigerians right now, we're talking about Nigerians being allow to be citizens where ever they're found.

Nigerians are already citizens by the constitution.


Please explain, how you plan to IMPLEMENT this indigeneship law.

Nefort:

You mentioned all the points I made are already in existence. Have they implemented the bill? How could my point be in existence when they haven't yet implemented the bill? My reasons are not yet lame because the bill hasn't been implemented yet and we don't yet know the outcome. Therefore your statement lacks reasoning and logic.

Yeah, I did say that all the points you raised are already in existence , abi people are not freely traveling and settling wherever they deemed fit, all over the country?
Next, you claimed the bill will also encourage us to be more mixed. Are we not mixed enough as it is extantly, in the country? This same "mix" you want to encourage with this du.mb bill is already causing us problems in Yorubaland where we have many yorubas-fulanis who do not have the interests of yorubaland, at heart. These are folks with yoruba names, speaks the language like indigenes but they are aligned to fulanis objective in Yorubaland. They are the enemies within, Yorubaland.

These are the so-called "yorubas" who are in the vanguard for the introduction of sharia in the land.
No we don't need any more "mix" in our land. For us in Yorubaland, the bill is D.O.A

oyatz:



Nigerians are already citizens by the constitution.


Please explain, how you plan to IMPLEMENT this indigeneship law.

Chidinma Adetshina was born and brought up in Southafrica. How was she treated last time?

Caseless:
Chidinma Adetshina was born and brought up in Southafrica. How was she treated last time?

How is this related to question asked?

Ojiofor:


I will take you serious when someone from Ondo become governor in Ekiti,Osun,Oyo etc...

Chinedu, next time, ask questions. A former governor of Ondo State actually governed the state for good 8 years but guess what? His father was said to be from Kogi State. While his oppositions at the time tried to use this against him, the silly idea wasn’t popular because who cares? It didn’t affect his ambition in any way and in fact, he’s said to be the best and most-loved Governor the state has had so far.
Again and I’ll always repeat this, this is something about the Yorubas that will be very hard to replicate in other regions of the country. Once you’re Yoruba and identifies as one, nobody really cares the exact state you’re from. Most yorubas don’t even know that the wife of the president isn’t purely Yoruba because who cares?
Conversely, a “whole” Bianca, the wife of your beloved Ojukwu, who used his all to save you was not tolerated by Anambra ibos to represent them in the upper chamber of the Country yet you cry over marginalization everyday when the whole world knows how you openly discriminate against yourselves
An Anambra Igbo sees women from Imo as “Ashawo”, Imo and Anambra see Enugu as inferior and second-class igbos, an ibo man from Enugu sees the one from Abia state as an aba-made subhuman while people from Abia state see those from Ebonyi as osus who aren’t supposed to be living in the midst of humans

Wickedlywicked:

Chinedu, next time, ask questions. A former governor of Ondo State actually governed the state for good 8 years but guess what? His father was said to be from Kogi State. While his oppositions at the time tried to use this against him, the silly idea wasn’t popular because who cares? It didn’t affect his ambition in any way and in fact, he’s said to be the best and most-loved Governor the state has had so far.
Again and I’ll always repeat this, this is something about the Yorubas that will be very hard to replicate in other regions of the country. Once you’re Yoruba and identifies as one, nobody really cares the exact state you’re from. Most yorubas don’t even know that the wife of the president isn’t purely Yoruba because who cares?
Conversely, a “whole” Bianca, the wife of your beloved Ojukwu, who used his all to save you was not tolerated by Anambra ibos to represent them in the upper chamber of the Country yet you cry over marginalization everyday when the whole world knows how you openly discriminate against yourselves
An Anambra Igbo sees women from Imo as “Ashawo”, Imo and Anambra see Enugu as inferior and second-class igbos, an ibo man from Enugu sees the one from Abia state as an aba-made subhuman while people from Abia state see those from Ebonyi as osus who aren’t supposed to be living in the midst of humans

Sharap and talking trash this Taofik from Kwara state.

Nigerians can clearly see those who have turned problem for this country.. right from Nnamdi Azikiwe to Aguiyi Ironsi down to Banjamin Kalu.. all their actions to erode other people's cultures and traditions are borne out of the fact that they can't stay put in their region.. just like the Fulani marauders, these ones too roam about the country looking for spaces to dominate and colonize.
I believe the States House of Assembly can act and fight the nonsense bill at the Supreme Court.

Never again must we allow highly decorated idi0ts put our peace and unity on the line for their selfish ethnic domination agenda.

Yoruba ronu..

Yorubas wake up and reject this nonsense.. outsiders won't leave their lands to be eyeing South West jobs and public offices meant strictly for Yorubas under guise of indigene bill.