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floshady02: 8:40am On Mar 11
NAIRALAND AND JIJI SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER. Name: ADEDAMOLA MICHEAL AROJOJOYE. Nairaland profile: @professionalmas YouTube: Lucky Ramsey. He uses Fake name Lucky Ramsey to SCAM. He is a Yoruba boy. Pretends not to be a Yoruba hence he will keep speaking English to you to decieve you to believe he is not Yoruba. BEWARE. He is a professional Scammer and a Thief

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Skydivine: 8:59am On Mar 11
fohiss:



He clearly said the 1.3M is for Workmanship... And nothing more... That I will be the one to be buying cement daily for him to work and when is time to use carpenter, I will also provide it, and also buy granite as well ... That the 1.3M is just for workmanship

But this issue is simple maths.
For this particular 4 bedroom ( 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom x 2) , up to 5000 blocks might be involved.

If you go by the second builder, you will spend 5000 x #240 = #1.2M . Just to lay blocks. He might not supervise the rest of the work.

If you go by the first contractor, you will spend #1.3M lay blocks to roofing level and also get his supervision for whole duration.

If you source for another regular brick layer, you will pay around #150 per block x 5000 = #750k . But you must also pay another person for supervision through out the duration to roofing level.

Supervision of brick layer might be more than 10k daily.

Personally, I will continue with the first person who is the main contractor that started the building..

You sound surprised that he told you upfront about your responsibility for purchasing the needed materials.
Now, you expect him to buy 100 bags ( #1M) of cement you will need for the 5000 blocks work from that contract amount? ( 1 bags of cement for 50 block)
Or the 30 tons of sand about 200k
Or the 20 tons of granite #400k
Or woods for frame work , nails and binding wire
Buy Rebar rods
Pay for carpenter
Pay for iron bender
Buy water
Pay for other helpers - hope you know that you will still need people to mix and pour the concrete

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rotecch77(m): 9:28am On Mar 11
Finishing of this structure is going on
Thanks to this our esteemed Non Nairaland member client

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bixton(m): 9:43am On Mar 11
Skydivine:


But this issue is simple maths.
For this particular 4 bedroom ( 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom x 2) , up to 5000 blocks might be involved.

If you go by the second builder, you will spend 5000 x #240 = #1.2M . Just to lay blocks. He might not supervise the rest of the work.

If you go by the first contractor, you will spend #1.3M lay blocks to roofing level and also get his supervision for whole duration.

If you source for another regular brick layer, you will pay around #150 per block x 5000 = #750k . But you must also pay another person for supervision through out the duration to roofing level.

Supervision of brick layer might be more than 10k daily.

Personally, I will continue with the first person who is the main contractor that started the building..

You sound surprised that he told you upfront about your responsibility for purchasing the needed materials.
Now, you expect him to buy 100 bags ( #1M) of cement you will need for the 5000 blocks work from that contract amount? ( 1 bags of cement for 50 block)
Or the 30 tons of sand about 200k
Or the 20 tons of granite #400k
Or woods for frame work , nails and binding wire
Buy Rebar rods
Pay for carpenter
Pay for iron bender
Buy water
Pay for other helpers - hope you know that you will still need people to mix and pour the concrete









6" blocks has not reached #240 per block to lay.

A client of mine paid #85,000 for every 600 blocks to be laid ,which comes out about #140 per block.

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Mykelslim: 9:44am On Mar 11
Greetings senior men, abeg make una help me check this quotation from an engineer to divide 2 plots of land. The land has been fenced round but I just need to divide my own and the other owner.

Ayohbk(m): 10:07am On Mar 11
Thank you all for your input. For now, I think selling will not be considered. We'll look for an independent engineer for second opinion on how to proceed.

Thanks to you all

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floshady02: 11:43am On Mar 11
NAIRALAND AND JIJI SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER. Name: ADEDAMOLA MICHEAL AROJOJOYE. Nairaland profile: @professionalmas YouTube: Lucky Ramsey. He uses Fake name Lucky to SCAM. BEWARE

Geekop: 2:09pm On Mar 11
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Riosystem: 2:38pm On Mar 11
floshady02:
There are a at too many Scammers and Quacks on this particular property Thread. Everyone need to be very careful of who you give your job to. Since it’s a free place, Majority of people who are desperate facing hardship in their daily life and just looking for money to feed who don’t have any experience in anything that has to do with construction just come on this thread to post different advert on a daily basis in the hope to catch a victim whom they will either scam completely or do a shabby job. If you are in the diaspora in particular, be very Careful on this thread.

You're right, Nairaland was once a great platform for education and problem-solving. However, recently, multiple profiles or names have been sharing the same pictures of completed projects, making it difficult to determine the true owner. The public should be cautious, as many illiterate s may have dishonest intentions.

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floshady02: 3:03pm On Mar 11
The only engineer to be trusted on this platform is @sypder880. He has his own thread and doesn’t come on this thread to do rubbish or comment rubbish or post rubbish. If you want to know a genuine engineer on Nairaland, they have their own thread and whenever they start a project, they share details and pictures from foundation till finishing of the project and they also show their faces on the site. They carry everyone along on that particular project from start to finish including posting of building materials they bought prices etc…If anyone comes on this thread just posting one or two pictures of a building construction, they are most likely a scammer. They are most likely stealing these pictures from somewhere claiming it’s their work. Please Beware especially those in diaspora. So many people in diaspora have fallen victim including myself recently.

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floshady02: 3:04pm On Mar 11
This is one of the scammers. NAIRALAND AND JIJI SCAMMER SCAMMER SCAMMER. Name: ADEDAMOLA MICHEAL AROJOJOYE. Nairaland profile: @professionalmas YouTube: Lucky Ramsey. He uses Fake name Lucky Ramsey to SCAM. He is a Yoruba boy. Pretends not to be a Yoruba hence he will keep speaking English to you to decieve you to believe he is not Yoruba. BEWARE. He is a professional Scammer and a Thief. This particular thief posts other peoples work on YouTube. YouTube page is luckyramsey. Uses Opay with the name ADEDAMOLA Micheal AROJOJOYE. Will be posting his arrest here soon. investigations are currently ongoing on him and will be caught soon.

christ007(m): 3:05pm On Mar 11
topsy23:


Don't know much about Asaba but this is what they are selling in Nnewi as at yesterday that we bought

Plastering sand 5 ton #80 000,
Sharp sand #110 000.
Cement #10 000 per bag
I called one of my old clients and he link me up with someone but no different with Benin .
Single trip is 35k and 2 in 1 is 80k but I’m still
Looking for price for granite 15 tons, if anyone can help please thanks 🙏
christ007(m): 3:06pm On Mar 11
Anyone with current price of cement in asaba I need to be sure before I do my estimate for my clients
rotecch77(m): 3:44pm On Mar 11
Slab done and dusted yesterday, curing will follow

Pop ceiling of the 3rd building is Also in progress.
My client is really happy with the progress here.

Spend your money where you will see it oo e get why oo
About N300M has gone for all these

All scammers will not see heaven
All legit men shall proper in the name of Almighty God Amen

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diordaves(m): 5:06pm On Mar 11
Skydivine:


But this issue is simple maths.
For this particular 4 bedroom ( 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom x 2) , up to 5000 blocks might be involved.

If you go by the second builder, you will spend 5000 x #240 = #1.2M . Just to lay blocks. He might not supervise the rest of the work.

If you go by the first contractor, you will spend #1.3M lay blocks to roofing level and also get his supervision for whole duration.

If you source for another regular brick layer, you will pay around #150 per block x 5000 = #750k . But you must also pay another person for supervision through out the duration to roofing level.

Supervision of brick layer might be more than 10k daily.

Personally, I will continue with the first person who is the main contractor that started the building..

You sound surprised that he told you upfront about your responsibility for purchasing the needed materials.
Now, you expect him to buy 100 bags ( #1M) of cement you will need for the 5000 blocks work from that contract amount? ( 1 bags of cement for 50 block)
Or the 30 tons of sand about 200k
Or the 20 tons of granite #400k
Or woods for frame work , nails and binding wire
Buy Rebar rods
Pay for carpenter
Pay for iron bender
Buy water
Pay for other helpers - hope you know that you will still need people to mix and pour the concrete








You and supervision. The OP wishes to adopt the direct labour approach. When it comes to setting of blocks, there is no extra supervision, no miscellaneous cost, no nothing. Just set block and collect your money.

So if we are to use your analogy of 5000 blocks at N150 per block, that is a total of N750k. But it will not be 5000 block sha. It will be far far less.

So, still on your analogy, 750k (labour cost) will do the job of block setting to roofing level. Contrast this against 1.3m, the OP will save 500k

No. The 1.3m option is the worst option for the OP.

Regarding how will the bricklayer know to read a plan? It is a bungalow. Bricklayers usually don't have that problem.

Casting of lintel, column or chaining and formwork, these are different segment of work not included in the 1.3m labour quote you are including in your calculations.

The 1.3m is just for block setting. This is outrageous. The OP should call for further quotes on per block basis.

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Kingsinterior(m): 7:34pm On Mar 11
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Kingsinterior:
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Kingsinterior(m): 7:41pm On Mar 11
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fohiss: 9:20pm On Mar 11
Skydivine:


But this issue is simple maths.
For this particular 4 bedroom ( 2 bedroom and 1 bedroom x 2) , up to 5000 blocks might be involved.

If you go by the second builder, you will spend 5000 x #240 = #1.2M . Just to lay blocks. He might not supervise the rest of the work.

If you go by the first contractor, you will spend #1.3M lay blocks to roofing level and also get his supervision for whole duration.

If you source for another regular brick layer, you will pay around #150 per block x 5000 = #750k . But you must also pay another person for supervision through out the duration to roofing level.

Supervision of brick layer might be more than 10k daily.

Personally, I will continue with the first person who is the main contractor that started the building..

You sound surprised that he told you upfront about your responsibility for purchasing the needed materials.
Now, you expect him to buy 100 bags ( #1M) of cement you will need for the 5000 blocks work from that contract amount? ( 1 bags of cement for 50 block)
Or the 30 tons of sand about 200k
Or the 20 tons of granite #400k
Or woods for frame work , nails and binding wire
Buy Rebar rods
Pay for carpenter
Pay for iron bender
Buy water
Pay for other helpers - hope you know that you will still need people to mix and pour the concrete








Thanks for your breakdown and analysis... The thing is I have enough blocks already to finish the building, charging 1.3M for workmanship to me is too much .... Well I used the second guy... He's using 3 bricklayer and 3 helper...(3 bricklayers takes 12k each which makes it 36k)....while the 3 helpers take 10k each making it 30k and all together is 66k per day and tomorrow they will get to the lintel level .... This option is really good for me ... Thanks everyone

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biosamak: 9:33pm On Mar 11
Hi people pls who knows how much a cement cost in Ibadan around Kuola Akala express area lafarge cement to be precised. Thanks
cash1115(m): 10:57pm On Mar 11
Have you gone through our threads yet?
Please do and pick out your desired designs. We're ALWAYS available to work ANYWHERE in the country. And your project will definitely be in safe and trusted hands.

christ007(m): 5:28am On Mar 12
Grateful for a safe trip! 🙏 Good morning, beautiful people of Nairaland! 💕 I'm thrilled to announce that I'm back in Lagos after a successful project in Enugu. Your trusted partner, Chris Multicrete Interiors (CMI), is now available to tackle your next project! 🌟

Check out my latest work in Enugu and experience the CMI difference. We deliver top-notch services nationwide, so don't hesitate to reach out.

A heartfelt thank you to our loyal clients who continue to trust us with their projects. May God bless you abundantly! 🙏"

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christ007(m): 5:46am On Mar 12
Pls I still haven’t gotten the price of granite and cement on asaba if you have ideas for the price pls tell me before I work on my estimate
Skydivine: 7:47am On Mar 12
diordaves:


You and supervision. The OP wishes to adopt the direct labour approach. When it comes to setting of blocks, there is no extra supervision, no miscellaneous cost, no nothing. Just set block and collect your money.

So if we are to use your analogy of 5000 blocks at N150 per block, that is a total of N750k. But it will not be 5000 block sha. It will be far far less.

So, still on your analogy, 750k (labour cost) will do the job of block setting to roofing level. Contrast this against 1.3m, the OP will save 500k

No. The 1.3m option is the worst option for the OP.

Regarding how will the bricklayer know to read a plan? It is a bungalow. Bricklayers usually don't have that problem.

Casting of lintel, column or chaining and formwork, these are different segment of work not included in the 1.3m labour quote you are including in your calculations.

The 1.3m is just for block setting. This is outrageous. The OP should call for further quotes on per block basis.
How do you get a house to roofing level with only blocks?
justcallmenuel(m): 8:42am On Mar 12
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justcallmenuel:
Any welder here that runs a tank stand?
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gbadexy:

Michlin
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gbadexy:

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michlins:
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gbadexy(m): 12:37pm On Mar 12
justcallmenuel:

Who??
That's his area of specialty.
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