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LordReed(m): 6:39pm On Feb 22
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No one needs God or a god but billions continue to find God or a god, let's face the reality. People need soft drinks because of refreshment of the human body and the need to take a drink. It's wrong to say no one needs soft drinks, the data says otherwise. i've heard of and met people who cannot do with drinking something, either tea, coffee, soft drinks or just plain water. Harry Potter cannot walk that line. Little wonder Jesus compared Himself to water and the Rock that gives water.

Soft drinks and water are not the same. People need water, they don't need soft drinks. You are not in a culture that celebrates Harry Potter that's why you think it doesn't compare.

Jesus allegedly making himself a comparison to water means nothing. That fact that billions of people have lived and continue to live without him shows he is not needed.
Image123(m): 7:46pm On Feb 22
LordReed:


Soft drinks and water are not the same. People need water, they don't need soft drinks. You are not in a culture that celebrates Harry Potter that's why you think it doesn't compare.

Jesus allegedly making himself a comparison to water means nothing. That fact that billions of people have lived and continue to live without him shows he is not needed.

i have consistently stated that people need God or a god, meaning that through the thousands of years and billions of humans, people always find God or a god to worship. All over the world, humans find a need to devote worship to something or someone to be "fulfilled". This will continue forever because humans are made to worship. Up to you to worship the true God/Jesus.
All over the world, billions of people take drinks for refreshing, maybe water or tea, or soft drinks, or coffee, or other drinks. You don't need a culture to drink something for refreshing. Harry Potter doesn't compare, even its actors and directors probably don't care to watch it every year. Same can't be said for the universality of drinking or worship. Tomorrow is Sunday again, billions are going to drink and worship. No one cares about the few thousands that'll probably watch or read Harry Potter and drop it forever like i did probably over a decade ago.
jaephoenix(m): 8:50pm On Feb 22
StillDtruth:


Go look around and count how many creations have 1 Creators and Owners, versus the ones with 2
Eg AK 47, 1 Owner, Toyota, 1 Owner, your phone, your car, your boutique, your house, etc

Again, stick to the question I asked you
jaephoenix(m): 8:51pm On Feb 22
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No one needs God or a god but billions continue to find God or a god, let's face the reality. People need soft drinks because of refreshment of the human body and the need to take a drink. It's wrong to say no one needs soft drinks, the data says otherwise. i've heard of and met people who cannot do with drinking something, either tea, coffee, soft drinks or just plain water. Harry Potter cannot walk that line. Little wonder Jesus compared Himself to water and the Rock that gives water.
What has god for you? What is the function? Water has functions in the human body, thus its needed. What is the function of your god? This is the second time I'm asking you this question, and you keep dodging it every time
jaephoenix(m): 8:52pm On Feb 22
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Who knows?
You said you know. So answer
jaephoenix(m): 8:54pm On Feb 22
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He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Isn't God wonderful?
So basically your god caters for everyone irrespective of affiliations? So he cares for those that detest and curse him?
jaephoenix(m): 8:56pm On Feb 22
StillDtruth:


Now you pretend like you do not know what I mean which is like you know my complexion, height, place where I live or that you wake up wondering if I have eaten today.

And we all know you don't, so I don't exist to you outside Nairaland.

I probably won't exist to you here if not that I respond to your posts a lot.
What is the meaning of this? Does this pertain to the question asked you
jaephoenix(m): 8:58pm On Feb 22
StillDtruth:


You are the dodging by pretending that you did not understand that I said His Knowing does not change anything exactly how the whole world knows that guns, cars, sniper insecticide can cause intense suffering and death when all of them were created, yet no one has blamed Loveland Products creators of the "poison" called sniper or Kalashnikov.

I'm not stupid, neither are the other readers. Probably you think many are. Your god is supposedly omniscient, knew his evil creations(including the devil) would harm us, but still created them.
The human creators dont have omniscient powers and don't know how devastating their creations would be
jaephoenix(m): 9:01pm On Feb 22
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i have consistently stated that people need God or a god, meaning that through the thousands of years and billions of humans, people always find God or a god to worship. All over the world, humans find a need to devote worship to something or someone to be "fulfilled". This will continue forever because humans are made to worship. Up to you to worship the true God/Jesus.
All over the world, billions of people take drinks for refreshing, maybe water or tea, or soft drinks, or coffee, or other drinks. You don't need a culture to drink something for refreshing. Harry Potter doesn't compare, even its actors and directors probably don't care to watch it every year. Same can't be said for the universality of drinking or worship. Tomorrow is Sunday again, billions are going to drink and worship. No one cares about the few thousands that'll probably watch or read Harry Potter and drop it forever like i did probably over a decade ago.
From talking about your personal god, you're now talking of gods generally. Did it occur to you that there are people that don't give a fvvvck about any god, like me? There are literally millions of atheists(and counting) who wont go to church tomorrow and live their lives without thanking your sky daddy
LordReed(m): 7:00am On Feb 23
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i have consistently stated that people need God or a god, meaning that through the thousands of years and billions of humans, people always find God or a god to worship. All over the world, humans find a need to devote worship to something or someone to be "fulfilled". This will continue forever because humans are made to worship. Up to you to worship the true God/Jesus.
All over the world, billions of people take drinks for refreshing, maybe water or tea, or soft drinks, or coffee, or other drinks. You don't need a culture to drink something for refreshing. Harry Potter doesn't compare, even its actors and directors probably don't care to watch it every year. Same can't be said for the universality of drinking or worship. Tomorrow is Sunday again, billions are going to drink and worship. No one cares about the few thousands that'll probably watch or read Harry Potter and drop it forever like i did probably over a decade ago.

And there are billions who never worshipped or will ever worship a god so again this ad populum track hits a dead end.

Few thousand? JKK Rowling became a billionaire through the franchise so Harry Potter fans are more than just a few thousand. And just like the gods people worship, Harry Potter fans don't need Harry Potter in as much as they enjoy being fans, worshippers can enjoy it all they want but they don't need any god.
StillDtruth: 7:57am On Feb 24
jaephoenix:

I'm not stupid, neither are the other readers. Probably you think many are. Your god is supposedly omniscient, knew his evil creations(including the devil) would harm us, but still created them.
The human creators dont have omniscient powers and don't know how devastating their creations would be

If people thought I was truly wrong they would have come to point it out.

But they are exactly in your position and there is no way any reasonable person can deny that there is no way that the creators of guns, cars, sniper insecticide did not know that these things can cause death which is why they even put a warning/caution labels on them.

So need repeating yourself, this has been answered.
StillDtruth: 8:04am On Feb 24
jaephoenix:

What is the meaning of this? Does this pertain to the question asked you

Sure. As you can see the person I spoke to got it after all can he say for a fact that he knows me outside of Nairaland? No.
StillDtruth: 8:13am On Feb 24
jaephoenix:

Again, stick to the question I asked you

I have answered the question just say that you can not respond to it.
LordReed(m): 8:22am On Feb 24
StillDtruth:


If people thought I was truly wrong they would have come to point it out.


It's not everytime you need to remind the fellow dancing naked in the market square that he is mad.

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MaxInDHouse(m): 8:44am On Feb 24
Tayorshd87:

Like seriously 😒 when it's time we all will conclude in the existence of all human race as just the word NATURE and there should be no religion ideas or belief guiding it

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “As far as scholars have discovered, there has never existed any people, anywhere, at any time, who were not in some sense religious.”

Humans were created with the instinct to WORSHIP so there is never going to be a time RELIGION or WORSHIP will stop in the lives of humans whether you like it or not.
Religion/worship is like food to human society without it we can't survive at the same time if our nutrition isn't balanced we will still have problems but we can't do without food/worship! smiley

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StillDtruth: 8:54am On Feb 24
LordReed:


It's not everytime you need to remind the fellow dancing naked in the market square that he is mad.

Atheists teaming up with his fellow atheists is still the same as one person talking rubbish.

Especially as it clearly stands that you could not addressed the point I made, even with your act of pretense.

So, you are the one dancing naked in the market and you can feel the looks people are giving you.
StillDtruth: 9:08am On Feb 24
GanagiBitrus:


Your comments show you know very little about Scientists' perspective on origin of life & the universe - all theories not facts.

As per the Religious perspective, it's subject to one's beliefs, &not matter for arguments.

Since you appreciate that theory is not fact so what are you saying?


Are you denying the fact that it is a Living Person who creates things?
StillDtruth: 9:10am On Feb 24
TheBillyonaire:


Who rolled the first domino?

Er, this is not rational at all. No one mentioned domino.
StillDtruth: 9:11am On Feb 24
TheBillyonaire:


You are inferring that God can not cure our mental illness?

Is like you are now suffering from mental illness.

This talk is about how no one accuses a creator when another person uses his creation to cause harm and death and here you are talking about cure for mental illness.

You need help truly.
LordReed(m): 12:52pm On Feb 24
StillDtruth:


Atheists teaming up with his fellow atheists is still the same as one person talking rubbish.

Especially as it clearly stands that you could not addressed the point I made, even with your act of pretense.

So, you are the one dancing naked in the market and you can feel the looks people are giving you.


I feel the looks because I am sane. You on the other hand don't care because you've taken leave of your senses.
Truthseeker10: 1:00pm On Feb 24
TheBillyonaire:
God is both a name, and also a Title. That is where the confusion is. Everyone seems to want to call any Higher power, the name God. But we must understand that Higher Powers exist in Higher Civilizational Realms within this Universe and outside of it.

On one side, God is an Avatar status of any civilization that has capability to harness consciousness and intelligence and deploy them based on Quantum Information Mechanics. We are currently a Tier 0 on a Civilizational Scale and any civilization of beings on Intelligence above Tier 0 should be able to build Artificial Super Intelligence capable of deploying a 32K Nature Realistic Holographic VR multi-player game capable of being Earthlike, hosting avatars on quantum organoid neuromorphic chip running on cosmic scale quantum computer with capability to manage the physics of a simulated Reality so immersive that you think you are in real life. That level is also a level of Godlike beings. But those Gods are actually more brilliant than that, cos they can simulate realities from their own mental hallucinations. Imagine how dirty our thoughts are, and to realize that each time you think those dirty thoughts of evil, the information is not lost. It is floating in the cloud for any mind to pick up and execute. That is the world that we live in. Entities that can do that, reserve their right in desiring to be called Gods.

Such entities earn the Right to be called Gods and we must respect them. , as we are also building our own robots. We are also robots of a Higher Civilization Game. This is what Spirit does for a living. It is a boring world, as eternity isn't a joke. We are playing in our own timed games so the idea of blaming a higher power is based on a faulty believe in Monotheism.

Good and Bad is a function within the created universe. Right now we are in a game of the Gods. The rest of those who do not know this, are called Non-Player Characters. So we do not waste time interfering in their level of understanding. It causes problems to interfere in waking up a robot,

Good and bad is what we do as neutral beings, but cause comes with effect. The movie is not sweet without some shootings, killings and sex. grin

Bad is relative. Choose your perspective and play there.

What I think you should be talking about is Spirit - The Unknown Creator of All. The I AM. That is the source code of God. Wanting to know about that, is the journey you are about to embark on and it is inevitable, you can not stop it. Safe journey when you are ready.
Source of these information?
Truthseeker10: 1:02pm On Feb 24
StillDtruth:


Kalashnikov created the Ak 47 but I do not see call him WICKED about his creation where you see Boko haram terrorists using it to murder and kidnap people.

Or, our dearly beloved Toyoda and Toyota used by Islamic devils to run over people.

God has finished creating but you and your fellow men determine how you use His creations.

So you are the one who is being VERY EVIL AND WICKED in calling The Good, evil.

And just is dictates that you must be punished for this great wicked evilness, no matter how you are trying to pretend like you are not insalting and blaspheming Him.

Are you saying that God did not destine people to do what they are doing today?
TheBillyonaire: 3:05pm On Feb 24
StillDtruth:


Is like you are now suffering from mental illness.

This talk is about how no one accuses a creator when another person uses his creation to cause harm and death and here you are talking about cure for mental illness.

You need help truly.

May be I am, may be not. You will never know.
Tayorshd87(m): 12:14am On Feb 25
MaxInDHouse:


The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “As far as scholars have discovered, there has never existed any people, anywhere, at any time, who were not in some sense religious.”

Humans were created with the instinct to WORSHIP so there is never going to be a time RELIGION or WORSHIP will stop in the lives of humans whether you like it or not.
Religion/worship is like food to human society without it we can't survive at the same time if our nutrition isn't balanced we will still have problems but we can't do without food/worship! smiley


Awesome input 💯
That's true logically
MaxInDHouse(m): 7:43am On Feb 25
Tayorshd87:

Awesome input 💯
That's true logically
That's why i often tell most of you claiming "atheist" that you guys are victims of false religious doctrines!
Image123(m): 11:06am On Feb 25
LordReed:


And there are billions who never worshipped or will ever worship a god so again this ad populum track hits a dead end.

Few thousand? JKK Rowling became a billionaire through the franchise so Harry Potter fans are more than just a few thousand. And just like the gods people worship, Harry Potter fans don't need Harry Potter in as much as they enjoy being fans, worshippers can enjoy it all they want but they don't need any god.

Yet nobody knows those billions except the people who suddenly make them up. How many million people do we have who do not worship anything? Facts don't hit a dead end, they might be bitter.
How many people do you estimate read or watched Harry Potter on Sunday?
Image123(m): 11:09am On Feb 25
jaephoenix:

So basically your god caters for everyone irrespective of affiliations? So he cares for those that detest and curse him?

Read your Bible and pray every day if you want to grow. i can't afford this babysitting.
Image123(m): 11:11am On Feb 25
jaephoenix:

You said you know. So answer

Show me where.
Image123(m): 11:13am On Feb 25
jaephoenix:

From talking about your personal god, you're now talking of gods generally. Did it occur to you that there are people that don't give a fvvvck about any god, like me? There are literally millions of atheists(and counting) who wont go to church tomorrow and live their lives without thanking your sky daddy

Okay, thank you for the information. Jesus cares about you.
LordReed(m): 11:26am On Feb 25
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Yet nobody knows those billions except the people who suddenly make them up. How many million people do we have who do not worship anything? Facts don't hit a dead end, they might be bitter.
How many people do you estimate read or watched Harry Potter on Sunday?

LoLz. So because you don't know there have been billions of people who have don't worship any gods means they don't exist? You are hilarious.

So unless a Harry Potter fan reads the book on Sunday then the person is not a fan? Your logic leaves a lot to be desired.
jaephoenix(m): 11:53am On Feb 25
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Yet nobody knows those billions except the people who suddenly make them up. How many million people do we have who do not worship anything? Facts don't hit a dead end, they might be bitter.
How many people do you estimate read or watched Harry Potter on Sunday?
I am a Harry Potter fan. There are many websites, fora etc dedicated to HP. Matter of fact, Harry Potter merchs are very profitable. And the good thing is there is no special day
The fact you're still arguing and haven't done a shred of research shows how deep the damage religion has done to your brain
jaephoenix(m): 11:54am On Feb 25
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Read your Bible and pray every day if you want to grow. i can't afford this babysitting.
I have done all that and its sound like bullshit. So if you can't answer my question, it shows how stuck youre

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