NewStats: 3,262,075 , 8,176,017 topics. Date: Saturday, 31 May 2025 at 05:45 PM 316g4l

jaephoenix:

Actually your god said he created evil. Try and be reading your bible sir

That is what I have just explained using what Kalashnikov created.

Loveland Products created the "poison" sniper yet not one soul has blamed the creators of it for all the murders and suicides people have used it for.

It is not the creation of evil that is evil but the unlawful use of a creation.

I can use a harmless thing like a feather which you people would call good to tickle you to death.

And what is the evil, is it not my wicked action of tickling you to death? No one blames the feather.

Same for when good Toyota is used to run over people.

StillDtruth:


That is what I have just explained using what Kalashnikov created.

Loveland Products created the "poison" sniper yet not one soul has blamed the creators of it for all the murders and suicides people have used it for.

It is not the creation of evil that is evil but the unlawful use of a creation.

I can use harmless feather to tickle you to death, I would be

Actually people have blamed Kalashnikov and other gun makers for the murders. Google about Winchester(the maker of Winchester rifles), he was sad his creation caused so many deaths.
Also the difference here is that your god KNEW his evil products would cause so much suffering and death, yet still created them. Those gun makers didn’t know their products would be so deadly.
And no, its not possible for someone to be tickled to death.
I don't assume your views would change. You would still say some crazy stuff next

jaephoenix:

Actually people have blamed Kalashnikov and other gun makers for the murders. Google about Winchester(the maker of Winchester rifles), he was sad his creation caused so many deaths.
Also the difference here is that your god KNEW his evil products would cause so much suffering and death, yet still created them. Those gun makers didn’t know their products would be so deadly.
And no, its not possible for someone to be tickled to death.
I don't assume your views would change. You would still say some crazy stuff next

This is not true.

Everyday herdsmen, kidnappers and bandits kill people, and no body has ever blamed the guns they use.

You are just using the noise US made for the need for gun control and access to say gun makers are blamed.

And no Winchester did not regret making his guns, it was his wife who had to give that political answer when asked. (You can not expect her to say that she was happy with it or that she does not care)

And see, you have nothing on anyone blaming gun makers which is why you had to switch to a political answer given by Winchester's wife.

And the whole world knows that guns, cars, sniper insecticide can cause intense suffering and death when all of them were created, yet no one has blamed Loveland Products creators of the "poison" called sniper or Kalashnikov.

So, you are wrong!

LordReed:


You're beginning to reason properly. Slowly you'll realise the orchestration of this universe has no divine origin.

U are part of the best people have met on this forum.

Like seriously 😒 when it's time we all will conclude in the existence of all human race as just the word NATURE and there should be no religion ideas or belief guiding it

GanagiBitrus:


Most religious beliefs, when subjected to critical thinking may not make sense - reason they are called beliefs. You just accept them by faith.

If you believe in God & believe He is in total control irrespective of what is happening (good or bad), it gives you that inner peace of mind & positive outlook to life.

In all, go with whatever set of beliefs that gives you peace, helps you to relate peacefully with your neighbour & helps you overcome life's numerous challenges. 👋

At the bolded above WON 🏆 my heart ⭐

Cheers 🥂

GanagiBitrus:


Most religious beliefs, when subjected to critical thinking may not make sense - reason they are called beliefs. You just accept them by faith.

If you believe in God & believe He is in total control irrespective of what is happening (good or bad), it gives you that inner peace of mind & positive outlook to life.

In all, go with whatever set of beliefs that gives you peace, helps you to relate peacefully with your neighbour & helps you overcome life's numerous challenges. 👋

At the bolded WON 🏆 my heart ❤️ 💜

Cheers 🥂

Tayorshd87:



U are part of the best people have met on this forum.

Like seriously 😒 when it's time we all will conclude in the existence of all human race as just the word NATURE and there should be no religion ideas or belief guiding it

Thanks for the compliment.

We can dream but I doubt religion will ever go away. Humans want to believe in the divine so badly they literally invented gods.

LordReed:


Thanks for the compliment.

We can dream but I doubt religion will ever go away. Humans want to believe in the divine so badly they literally invented gods.

See crazed delusion.

Are you not already antiGod because you do not want to have anyone above you to call you to order?

So how can you imagine anyone would want to dream up such a control?

LordReed:


Thanks for the compliment.

We can dream but I doubt religion will ever go away. Humans want to believe in the divine so badly they literally invented gods.

It's actually the other way round, man needs God. You cannot say that humans want to need oxygen so badly, it's a bad joke.

Tayorshd87:



U are part of the best people have met on this forum.

Like seriously 😒 when it's time we all will conclude in the existence of all human race as just the word NATURE and there should be no religion ideas or belief guiding it

Clearly you are an atheist and I knew you were Lying when you said you believe in God.

And if you were not foolish like them, then you would have real eyes that anytime you say NATURE, you say God, for nature always refers to things we have seen which did not and could not create themselves.

Image123:


It's actually the other way round, man needs God. You cannot say that humans want to need oxygen so badly, it's a bad joke.

We don't need any gods just like we don't need Harry Porter. We like stories but stories are in no way comparable to oxygen.

LordReed:


We don't need any gods just like we don't need Harry Porter. We like stories but stories are in no way comparable to oxygen.

Billions of people since the creation of man have needed God or a god in their lives and will continue to. No one needs Harry Potter or at least i never met one.

StillDtruth:


See crazed delusion.

Are you not already antiGod because you do not want to have anyone above you to call you to order?

So how can you imagine anyone would want to dream up such a control?

LoLz. There are plenty people calling me to order, just that none of them is your god or any god.

Plenty of reasons why people would dream up such a control. Just look at any high control cult.

Image123:


Billions of people since the creation of man have needed God or a god in their lives and will continue to. No one needs Harry Potter or at least i never met one.

Exactly, no one needs a god just like no one needs Harry Porter. It's also like soft drinks, no one needs soft drinks but we consume billions of litres of it annually.

LordReed:


LoLz. There are plenty people calling me to order, just that none of them is your god or any god.

Plenty of reasons why people would dream up such a control. Just look at any high control cult.

You have begun your usual telling of Lies. As proven here on Nairaland no one calls you to order. You do as you please which is one of the requirements of being an atheist.

And cults control those lower than them, they don't dream up a higher control to control them.

StillDtruth:


You have begun your usual telling of Lies. As proven here on Nairaland no one calls you to order. You do as you please which is one of the requirements of being an atheist.

And cults control those lower than them, they don't dream up a higher control to control them.

LoLz. So the only life you know is being on Nairaland? No wonder. Bwahahahahaha!

They sure do, that is the central control method.

LordReed:


LoLz. So the only life you know is being on Nairaland? No wonder. Bwahahahahaha!

They sure do, that is the central control method.

Obviously the only time I know people like you and MaxinDee, exist, is only in Nairaland.

StillDtruth:


This is not true.

Everyday herdsmen, kidnappers and bandits kill people, and no body has ever blamed the guns they use.

You are just using the noise US made for the need for gun control and access to say gun makers are blamed.

And no Winchester did not regret making his guns, it was his wife who had to give that political answer when asked. (You can not expect her to say that she was happy with it or that she does not care)

And see, you have nothing on anyone blaming gun makers which is why you had to switch to a political answer given by Winchester's wife.

And the whole world knows that guns, cars, sniper insecticide can cause intense suffering and death when all of them were created, yet no one has blamed Loveland Products creators of the "poison" called sniper or Kalashnikov.

So, you are wrong!

Interestingly, you ignored the part I said your god knew his evil creations would cause chaos and damage but he went ahead and created them

Image123:


It's actually the other way round, man needs God. You cannot say that humans want to need oxygen so badly, it's a bad joke.

What exactly does man need god for?

Image123:


Billions of people since the creation of man have needed God or a god in their lives and will continue to. No one needs Harry Potter or at least i never met one.

What has god done for you, that he's not doing for atheists who don't believe in him?

TheBillyonaire:
God is both a name, and also a Title. That is where the confusion is. Everyone seems to want to call any Higher power, the name God. But we must understand that Higher Powers exist in Higher Civilizational Realms within this Universe and outside of it.

On one side, God is an Avatar status of any civilization that has capability to harness consciousness and intelligence and deploy them based on Quantum Information Mechanics. We are currently a Tier 0 on a Civilizational Scale and any civilization of beings on Intelligence above Tier 0 should be able to build Artificial Super Intelligence capable of deploying a 32K Nature Realistic Holographic VR multi-player game capable of being Earthlike, hosting avatars on quantum organoid neuromorphic chip running on cosmic scale quantum computer with capability to manage the physics of a simulated Reality so immersive that you think you are in real life. That level is also a level of Godlike beings. But those Gods are actually more brilliant than that, cos they can simulate realities from their own mental hallucinations. Imagine how dirty our thoughts are, and to realize that each time you think those dirty thoughts of evil, the information is not lost. It is floating in the cloud for any mind to pick up and execute. That is the world that we live in. Entities that can do that, reserve their right in desiring to be called Gods.

Such entities earn the Right to be called Gods and we must respect them. , as we are also building our own robots. We are also robots of a Higher Civilization Game. This is what Spirit does for a living. It is a boring world, as eternity isn't a joke. We are playing in our own timed games so the idea of blaming a higher power is based on a faulty believe in Monotheism.

Good and Bad is a function within the created universe. Right now we are in a game of the Gods. The rest of those who do not know this, are called Non-Player Characters. So we do not waste time interfering in their level of understanding. It causes problems to interfere in waking up a robot,

Good and bad is what we do as neutral beings, but cause comes with effect. The movie is not sweet without some shootings, killings and sex.

Bad is relative. Choose your perspective and play there.

What I think you should be talking about is Spirit - The Unknown Creator of All. The I AM. That is the source code of God. Wanting to know about that, is the journey you are about to embark on and it is inevitable, you can not stop it. Safe journey when you are ready.

As I said earlier on, you are mixing up everything.

Yes, God refers to One having power and exercising full control over other lesser things.

But you forget 98% of creations are owned by only one person and the other meagre 2% is shared between those creations who have 2 or 3 creators.

But no creation has upto 7 and more creators, so there is no one contesting the position of God, which The God of the bible holds.

And no good and bad is not relative, it is settled world wide what things are good and what things are bad and evil, exactly how the whole world is calling the murder of Christians in the church evil.

And E money buying cars for his servants, good.

jaephoenix:

Interestingly, you ignored the part I said your god knew his evil creations would cause chaos and damage but he went ahead and created them

Nope.

I pointed out that

"And the whole world knows that guns, cars, sniper insecticide can cause intense suffering and death when all of them were created, yet no one has blamed Loveland Products creators of the "poison" called sniper or Kalashnikov."

So, you have no point here.

StillDtruth:


As I said earlier on, you are mixing up everything.

Yes, God refers to One having power and exercising full control over other lesser things.

But you forget 98% of creations are owned by only one person and the other meagre 2% is shared between those creations who have 2 or 3 creators

But no creation has upto 7 and more creators, so there is no one contesting the position of God, which The God of the bible holds.

And no good and bad is not relative, it is settled world wide what things are good and what things are bad and evil, exactly how the whole world is calling the murder of Christians in the church evil.

And E money buying cars for his servants, good.

Whats your evidence of the bolded

StillDtruth:


Nope.

I pointed out that

"And the whole world knows that guns, cars, sniper insecticide can cause intense suffering and death when all of them were created, yet no one has blamed Loveland Products creators of the "poison" called sniper or Kalashnikov."

So, you have no point here.

Lol 😆 . And he keeps dodging
Is your god omniscient? Yes or no?

StillDtruth:


Obviously the only time I know people like you and MaxinDee, exist, is only in Nairaland.

So in your head we only exist on Nairaland. What a child. LoLz.

LordReed:


So in your head we only exist on Nairaland. What a child. LoLz.

He's mentally challenged. Pity him

jaephoenix:

Whats your evidence of the bolded

Go look around and count how many creations have 1 Creators and Owners, versus the ones with 2
Eg AK 47, 1 Owner, Toyota, 1 Owner, your phone, your car, your boutique, your house, etc

LordReed:


Exactly, no one needs a god just like no one needs Harry Porter. It's also like soft drinks, no one needs soft drinks but we consume billions of litres of it annually.

No one needs God or a god but billions continue to find God or a god, let's face the reality. People need soft drinks because of refreshment of the human body and the need to take a drink. It's wrong to say no one needs soft drinks, the data says otherwise. i've heard of and met people who cannot do with drinking something, either tea, coffee, soft drinks or just plain water. Harry Potter cannot walk that line. Little wonder Jesus compared Himself to water and the Rock that gives water.

jaephoenix:

What exactly does man need god for?

Who knows?

jaephoenix:

What has god done for you, that he's not doing for atheists who don't believe in him?

He maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. Isn't God wonderful?

LordReed:


So in your head we only exist on Nairaland. What a child. LoLz.

Now you pretend like you do not know what I mean which is like you know my complexion, height, place where I live or that you wake up wondering if I have eaten today.

And we all know you don't, so I don't exist to you outside Nairaland.

I probably won't exist to you here if not that I respond to your posts a lot.

jaephoenix:

Lol 😆 . And he keeps dodging
Is your god omniscient? Yes or no?

You are the dodging by pretending that you did not understand that I said His Knowing does not change anything exactly how the whole world knows that guns, cars, sniper insecticide can cause intense suffering and death when all of them were created, yet no one has blamed Loveland Products creators of the "poison" called sniper or Kalashnikov.