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And yeah, I'm an independent thinker. The fact you chose to disagree the majority doesn’t make you right.

I believe we can debate without throwing shots 🙂

Skrrrrrrr:


I don't have any issue with anyone going to the rim. I'm saying everyone should play to their strength. Under 30% shooters chucking up 3s is bad but the problem with the NBA isn't only about that. Foul baiting and going to the line 10 times a night is as much a menace if not worse....Embiid and Shai won't make this league anymore interesting, afterall a lot of those guys that took it to the basket were historically poor shooters. Shaq didn't bait for fouls, he couldn't even score them.
Another thing, maybe you should learn to be an independent thinker and not look for ....

Skrrrrrrr:




He had a Bad game. But he still scored 20 points and still better than barkley.
But 2/12 is diabolical make I no lie

He was having joy in the rim but decided to continue shooting 3s that wasn't dropping.

Make no sense.

larride:


After going 2/12 from 3s when he had 5/7 from the rim. Classical example of what A40 was saying. 2/12 is diabolical.

Nice how you sidestep the 3point argument to talk about rebound.

He wants us to clap and marvel at a 7'5 player grabbing rebounds. Where is the shame?

He is almost a foot taller than Chuck was and pound for pound Barkley was the better rebounder.

Wemby is 10th in the league in rebounds so I don't know what Skrrrr is even flexing about.

He's shooting barely 35% from 3. Again are we supposed to be wowed by that. Considering he's taking 9 3s a game

Anyway you people can argue till you're blue in the face and when you're done you can also argue with the ratings. While fans keep tuning out of glorified 3pt shooting contests.

Barkley is only the messenger saying what fans have already been saying since. And his opinion holds more weight than anyone on this thread and even JJ Redick as well

larride:


After going 2/12 from 3s when he had 5/7 from the rim. Classical example of what A40 was saying. 2/12 is diabolical.

Nice how you sidestep the 3point argument to talk about rebound.

What is he averaging for the season is the question. We've seen players shoot poorly even when they're shooting only 2s.

A40:
Anyway you people can argue till you're blue in the face and when you're done you can also argue with the ratings. While fans keep tuning out of glorified 3pt shooting contests.

Barkley is only the messenger saying what fans have already been saying since. And his opinion holds more weight than anyone on this thread and even JJ Redick as well

Did you see Barkley’s take on Ajala ing the GOAT for most 30 points? Laugh wan kill me die, man killed the joy of every Ajala fan the facts of the matter. AD come add salt with injury when he was asked in the locker room.

greypencils:
How is it possible to like a player but hate the team he plays for? I dunno why, but I have always liked Butler without caring for the teams he plays for. Heat is the first I'll like. Now that he is leaving, I am leaving with him. Never liked Heat especially after Lebron ed. Same with Boston. I loved Kyrie in Boston, loved Rajon Rondo in Boston, love Jaylen Brown in Boston. Still hate Boston.

Butler is a hustler and tries to play the game the right way which many find appealing in comparison to spamming 3s. However, he is naturally disruptive in the locker room. He becomes a divisive personality that ultimately becomes a cancer in the locker room. His best fit would have been the Sixers but those ones are perennially cursed. Also, at 35, I don’t know who gives him that long term contract he is looking for, particularly a contender.


As for Boston, harden not your heart, search deep and you will find the love for the greatest team in NBA history!

Lu Dort...I see you

Roland17:


Did you see Barkley’s take on Ajala ing the GOAT for most 30 points? Laugh wan kill me die, man killed the joy of every Ajala fan the facts of the matter. AD come add salt with injury when he was asked in the locker room.

Chuck no send anybody. That one go toast everybody papa and mama. I like that the respect is still there between him and the GOAT despite them not being tight anymore

AD everybody know the real. You've played like 7 more seasons. Surprise surprise

Chai. Celtics. Once that 3pt spamming no enter they're toast.

9/46. 3/24 for second half

OKC doing all this winning without Chet btw

Roland17:


Butler is a hustler and tries to play the game the right way which many find appealing in comparison to spamming 3s. However, he is naturally disruptive in the locker room. He becomes a divisive personality that ultimately becomes a cancer in the locker room. His best fit would have been the Sixers but those ones are perennially cursed. Also, at 35, I don’t know who gives him that long term contract he is looking for, particularly a contender.


As for Boston, harden not your heart, search deep and you will find the love for the greatest team in NBA history!

As in James Harden?

Roland17:


Butler is a hustler and tries to play the game the right way which many find appealing in comparison to spamming 3s. However, he is naturally disruptive in the locker room. He becomes a divisive personality that ultimately becomes a cancer in the locker room. His best fit would have been the Sixers but those ones are perennially cursed. Also, at 35, I don’t know who gives him that long term contract he is looking for, particularly a contender.


As for Boston, harden not your heart, search deep and you will find the love for the greatest team in NBA history!

Butler is delusional. No one is going to pay 100milli for a 35 year old just past his prime. Eye don clear

birdman:


As in James Harden?

Despite the public outrages, Rockets fans, low key have a soft spot for Harden. Una just Dey disguise. I meant he should soften his heart when it comes to Boston matter but of course na Harden the player you immediately ..

A40:
Chai. Celtics. Once that 3pt spamming no enter they're toast.

9/46. 3/24 for second half

OKC doing all this winning without Chet btw

Our Meerkat matter don tire me. We no dey even set screen to take the 3 anymore. Guys just walk the ball past the half court and jack 3 balls.

Roland17:


Our Meerkat matter don tire me. We no dey even set screen to take the 3 anymore. Guys just walk the ball past the half court and jack 3 balls.

I really worry for what happens when you run up on a team that can go band for band in the 3 department.

https://x.com/MagicFilmRoom/status/1876062912718209406?s=19

It's a virus that has infected the rest of the league at this point. This joker is a guard. Rather than attack and score, bear in mind they were shooting 4/21 from 3 up till this point. He jacks up another wack 3 and promptly bricks it.

Anyone who think guys like Barkley are supposed to market this junk are nuts. Mind you same Redick is the #1 shitter on the old era so he's a big hypocrite for criticizing these guys for shitting on today's product

A40:


I really worry for what happens when you run up on a team that can go band for band in the 3 department.

https://x.com/MagicFilmRoom/status/1876062912718209406?s=19

It's a virus that has infected the rest of the league at this point. This joker is a guard. Rather than attack and score, bear in mind they were shooting 4/21 from 3 up till this point. He jacks up another wack 3 and promptly bricks it.

Anyone who think guys like Barkley are supposed to market this junk are nuts. Mind you same Redick is the #1 shitter on the old era so he's a big hypocrite for criticizing these guys for shitting on today's product

We have a better defense than most teams, I think that usually carries us against the better teams, however, we may luck out with a balanced team.

Adam Silver pretended like it wasn’t an issue when this 3 point issue started gaining momentum, 2-3 years ago. He is now acknowledging it is an issue only because ratings are plummeting. I was watching Wemby the other night and I was sick to my stomach watching a 7’5 player spam 3s. The state of the league isn’t sustainable, they know it and something has to give.

The quality of play has gotten worse and monotonous to watch. It has essentially become a point contest on drugs. The fans are tuning off, particularly those who keep the discourse going. Reddick is a joke and the more he speaks, the more he exposes this.

A40:
Chai. Celtics. Once that 3pt spamming no enter they're toast.

9/46. 3/24 for second half

OKC doing all this winning without Chet btw

Finally you're going to prophesize the wonders of Shai Gorgeous Alexander!!!

Skrrrrrrr:


Lmao. You think people genuinely love watching Shai? With all the fouls?
Let me tell you, if Basketball was left to foul baiters like Shai, the game would be dead already.
The problem is that the new generation of superstars have no sauce.
How many people turned up to the Olympics to watch shai play. Only OKC fans give a Bleep about that fraud. No one wants to watch anybody bait foul all game and shoot 10 FTs every night. That is worse for the NBA than 3pt spamming....
Lebron and steph match ups still generate more viewership than anything shai has done or will ever do.
Like I said, the superstars that are entertaining to watch, are old and about to be phased out. These new ones have no sauce....

This guy doesn't watch ball but follows narratives
Lmao

Roland17:


We have a better defense than most teams, I think that usually carries us against the better teams, however, we may luck out with a balanced team.

This is my point exactly. This is why of all your players Jaylen Brown is the one I rate the most as he's the only one who understands the need to not just spam 3s and can get buckets when the 3 isn't falling

Roland17:

Adam Silver pretended like it wasn’t an issue when this 3 point issue started gaining momentum, 2-3 years ago. He is now acknowledging it is an issue only because ratings are plummeting. I was watching Wemby the other night and I was sick to my stomach watching a 7’5 player spam 3s. The state of the league isn’t sustainable, they know it and something has to give.

Teams were averaging 24 3s just in 2014, now it's 38 3s a game. The all star game was the coup de grace I think they took like 100 or 150 3s.

Adam Silver is the worst commissioner in sports never mind NBA no gainsaying

Wemby is taking almost 10 3s a game and only making 35%. Prime Klay Thompson was taking 9. This tells you what's wrong with the game in a nutshell

Roland17:

The quality of play has gotten worse and monotonous to watch. It has essentially become a point contest on drugs. The fans are tuning off, particularly those who keep the discourse going. Reddick is a joke and the more he speaks, the more he exposes this.

As for Reddick he's just being a hypocrite. You can't talk about Barkley and co trashing the product when you're the number 1 trasher of the eras that came before.

kendrick9:
This guy doesn't watch ball but follows narratives
Lmao

I can see you are a clown.
Shai is averaging more FTs than all guards in the NBA, Second only to Anthony Davis and Giannis, but those are even forwards.
He averages more FTs than James Harden who is the ultimate foul baiter. 8 free throws per game. For emphasis steph averages 3.
How is that type of basketball entertaining, when you are always on the line?
You say nah narrative....

Skrrrrrrr:


I can see you are a clown.
Shai is averaging more FTs than all guards in the NBA, Second only to Anthony Davis and Giannis, but those are even forwards.
He averages more FTs than James Harden who is the ultimate foul baiter. 8 free throws per game. For emphasis steph averages 3.
How is that type of basketball entertaining, when you are always on the line?
You say nah narrative....

TF is this clown man
SGA average 21.5 drives(most in the league)
Steph Curry you mentioned averages just 8.5 drives.
Giannis who has the most FTs average 13.5 drives.
So SGA who doubles Giannis drives % but has less FTs than him.
SGA entire game is getting to the rim which is why he gets those FTs. He doesn't just stand and shoot 3s like this modern day stars.

You're fucking joke man cause clearly you have no idea how to analyze and apply context to stats.
Don't injest any info and run along with that,
Watch a game you clown

kendrick9:
TF is this clown man
SGA average 21.5 drives(most in the league)
Steph Curry you mentioned averages just 8.5 drives.
Giannis who has the most FTs average 13.5 drives.
So SGA who doubles Giannis drives % but has less FTs than him.
SGA entire game is getting to the rim which is why he gets those FTs. He doesn't just stand and shoot 3s like this modern day stars.

You're fucking joke man cause clearly you have no idea how to analyze and apply context to stats.
Don't injest any info and run along with that,
Watch a game you clown

You are an slowpoke.
You don't have an issue with a guard averaging more FTs than prime Lebron James.
Giannis and Jokic are number one and two in points in the paint, but shai somehow manages to average more free throws than both of them...
Luka averages less drives but has a higher drive effectiveness percentage, meaning that his drives leads to more points or assists.
Shais drives only leads to Free throws because he baits those free throws. Nobody enjoys watching a guard going to the free throw line 10times in one game. That is why no one tunes in watch that nonsense. It's no wonder the games with the highest views have been games involving the warriors, the lakers and the celtics.
The Oklahoma city thunder do not have any game in the top 10 in viewership. Because the thunder, led by shai play fucking drab basketball and he has zero entertainment value.

Skrrrrrrr:


You are an slowpoke.
You don't have an issue with a guard averaging more FTs than prime Lebron James.
Giannis and Jokic are number one and two in points in the paint, but shai somehow manages to average more free throws than both of them...
Luka averages less drives but has a higher drive effectiveness percentage, meaning that his drives leads to more points or assists.
Shais drives only leads to Free throws because he baits those free throws. Nobody enjoys watching a guard going to the free throw line 10times in one game. That is why no one tunes in watch that nonsense. It's no wonder the games with the highest views have been games involving the warriors, the lakers and the celtics.
The Oklahoma city thunder do not have any game in the top 10 in viewership. Because the thunder, led by shai play fucking drab basketball and he has zero entertainment value.

You just confirmed what I've been saying.
You never watched any OKC game or any other game not involving Lakers or Golden State.
You're a zombie..
Peeps like you still believe Lebron and Steph are still top 5 in the league because the media tells you how to think.
I thought I was debating ball with you and you're bringing up viewership stats🤡

Do you think I give a f***k what clowns like yourself watch on TV :

kendrick9:
You just confirmed what I've been saying.
You never watched any OKC game or any other game not involving Lakers or Golden State.
You're a zombie..
Peeps like you still believe Lebron and Steph are still top 5 in the league because the media tells you how to think.
I thought I was debating ball with you and you're bringing up viewership stats🤡

Do you think I give a f***k what clowns like yourself watch on TV :

You are a consummate retard.
If you weren't a complete ignoramus, you'd have noticed that the debate was about why viewership was declining. Before you jumped in like a blindfolded buffalo.
My opinion was that people do not really rate the superstars enough to want to watch them as they were not particularly interesting like steph and lebron, reason games with steph and lebron average more views. I disagreed with someone that said Shai was the blueprint because I considered his games extremely boring as well, due to the free throws. The numbers actually say that people do not watch shai as much even though he doesn't chuck up 3s.
Rather than state your reasons, you jumped right in and tried to disrespect me.
You must be a very stoopid fellow. Thunder fire your mama....

Skrrrrrrr:



You are a consummate retard.
If you weren't a complete ignoramus, you'd have noticed that the debate was about why viewership was declining. Before you jumped in like a blindfolded buffalo.
My opinion was that people do not really rate the superstars enough to want to watch them as they were not particularly interesting like steph and lebron, reason games with steph and lebron average more views. I disagreed with someone that said Shai was the blueprint because I considered his games extremely boring as well, due to the free throws. The numbers actually say that people do not watch shai as much even though he doesn't chuck up 3s.
Rather than state your reasons, you jumped right in and tried to disrespect me.
...

So viewership is declining because of SGA🤡🤡🤡.
Not because of the increased 3ball spamming
Not because of the lack of defence
Not because of the inconsistent ref calls
But it's because of SGA🤣🤣🤣

My god someone help this brother!!
What a fuckin joke!


The NBA are doing a poor job of promoting it new stars most likely guess what they aren't Americans.
The top 5 players in the league right now
Jokic, SGA, Giannis, Luka , Wemby aren't Americans.
If the NBA wants to promote this current stars they know what to do rather than sucking to Lebron and Steph.
And to be fair Oklahoma, Denver as a place can't be compared to New York, Los Angeles and California as a whole which is why the media are focused on Lakers & Golden State.
If SGA, Jokic or Luka was playing for Lakers their profile would have been a lot more higher.
Man use your brain ffs!!

Imagine Calling SGA boring.
Man has one of the smoothest games in the league, like butter.
Go watch and stop following online narratives

kendrick9:
So viewership is declining because of SGA🤡🤡🤡.
Not because of the increased 3ball spamming
Not because of the lack of defence
Not because of the inconsistent ref calls
But it's because of SGA🤣🤣🤣

My god someone help this brother!!
What a fuckin joke!


The NBA are doing a poor job of promoting it new stars most likely guess what they aren't Americans.
The top 5 players in the league right now
Jokic, SGA, Giannis, Luka , Wemby aren't Americans.
If the NBA wants to promote this current stars they know what to do rather than sucking to Lebron and Steph.
And to be fair Oklahoma, Denver as a place can't be compared to New York, Los Angeles and California as a whole which is why the media are focused on Lakers & Golden State.
If SGA, Jokic or Luka was playing for Lakers their profile would have been a lot more higher.
Man use your brain ffs!!

Imagine Calling SGA boring.
Man has one of the smoothest games in the league, like butter.
Go watch and stop replying on online narratives

Nigga, you are beginning to irritate me
I never said it was because of Shai. I just didn't agree that it was because of 3 point spamming.
I talked about the fact that the new stars lack star power, which you just agreed with
I also spoke about the NBA experiencing diminishing returns which you may or may not agree with.
There is also the fact that the NBA has become increasingly expensive. There are many reasons.
I only spoke about shai because someone else tried to make it look like he was a difference maker. My opinion was that his game wasn't particularly interesting either.....
It's clear you didn't follow the argument, you were just trying to annoy me for no reason.....

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Beal must be feeling mighty low right now. He is about to become bait for Butler. All these players that keep trying to choose where they will land and it doesnt pan out. It worked for Lebron doesnt mean it will work for you. And it almost didnt work for Lebron either. The extraordinary work ethic and hunger that saved him is absent with these cats, they think they will just enter team and ride to finals shooting pretty jumpshots with no defense.

kendrick9:
So viewership is declining because of SGA🤡🤡🤡.
Not because of the increased 3ball spamming
Not because of the lack of defence
Not because of the inconsistent ref calls
But it's because of SGA🤣🤣🤣

My god someone help this brother!!
What a fuckin joke!


The NBA are doing a poor job of promoting it new stars most likely guess what they aren't Americans.
The top 5 players in the league right now
Jokic, SGA, Giannis, Luka , Wemby aren't Americans.
If the NBA wants to promote this current stars they know what to do rather than sucking to Lebron and Steph.
And to be fair Oklahoma, Denver as a place can't be compared to New York, Los Angeles and California as a whole which is why the media are focused on Lakers & Golden State.
If SGA, Jokic or Luka was playing for Lakers their profile would have been a lot more higher.
Man use your brain ffs!!

Imagine Calling SGA boring.
Man has one of the smoothest games in the league, like butter.
Go watch and stop following online narratives

You're like the 4th guy pointing it that he doesn't watch the games. He can't comprehend stats; neither can he translate them effectively. Don't waste your time abeg.

Get your pop corn & soda.

greypencils:
Get your pop corn & soda.

I will be there no matter what.


Btw love the way the NBA are promoting this clash....
Interest in this game is very high.

kendrick9:
So viewership is declining because of SGA🤡🤡🤡.
The NBA are doing a poor job of promoting it new stars most likely guess what they aren't Americans.

The current commissioner was a safe pick when the old one (RIP) retired. The NBA finally had the same rep with corporate america like NFL and MLB, leaving NHL behind . They had weeded out the Allen Iversons, Jailblazers etc. Adam Silver was the right man to keep that ship in the right direction, dont rock the boat and lose billions in sponsorships.

Unfortunately, his strength is also his weakness. He is not the big bold ideas kind of guy like David Stern was. A liitle adjustment here, a tiny rule change there, thats what he is comfortable with. Even when he goes big, its corporate big, playing games in London and the likes. I am yet to see him do something that the basic, regular NBA fan is really enthusisatic about.