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amdman: 9:07pm On Nov 09, 2024
I will summarize some of the important points that have been raised::

1. Nobody lured anybody to come to Canada. As a professional looking to relocate to another country, you must research, research, research. That includes talking to people on the ground that went ahead of you. You must find out the realities about getting into your target profession and develop your plan of how to get there. You must also be willing to reinvent yourself and choose a new path if your current path does not appear to lead to your preferred destination. Nobody coming into Canada in 2023/2024 should be surprised about the challenges in the job market or housing. You should have already discovered that through your research.

2. Your network is very critical. It's almost as if you can only grow as much as what you know, And what you know is largely dependent on who is around you. If you land and keep company with those that have given up on their dreams, you will soon give up on your dreams. If you keep the company of those that have big dreams and are constantly focussed on those dreams, you will find that you will readjust your own dreams and make them bigger, and then stay awake at night figuring out how to make it possible.

3. Practice delayed gratification. The best time to suffer and work hard in Canada is when you have just landed. That is the time you still have a lot of fire, but as time goes on, you start adjusting to the reality of the country making it difficult for you to make bold decisions. So if there are licensing exams to write, write them early. If you are choosing a new career path, choose it early.

4. Everything beautiful takes time. Your dream is going to take time. Just stay focused. Stay in your lane and keep building.

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amdman: 9:16pm On Nov 09, 2024
slydog:


People coming to me to sell life insurance, I had to research this life insurance and find out they make up to $3k for any permanent life insurance they sell. Bro, I am studying to write insurance exam now, $150 just to sell insurance to myself and earn the 3k and I can sell to others.

I wish it's not too late for me to convince you not to these insurance guys that are making merchandise of the immigrant population. Their life insurance products are targeted at immigrants because they are very bad financial products, and so they leverage on immigrants selling to other immigrants in their network. At the end, the insurance agent makes money, the insurance company makes money, but the person that bought the product loses money. I wouldn't sell such a product to my community.

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slydog(m): 6:30am On Nov 10, 2024
amdman:


I wish it's not too late for me to convince you not to these insurance guys that are making merchandise of the immigrant population. Their life insurance products are targeted at immigrants because they are very bad financial products, and so they leverage on immigrants selling to other immigrants in their network. At the end, the insurance agent makes money, the insurance company makes money, but the person that bought the product loses money. I wouldn't sell such a product to my community.

Tell me more please.
Is it that the insurance doesn't doesnt work? The term or perm live or resp, do they work when u need them or not?

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House34: 6:37am On Nov 10, 2024
amdman:


I will summarize some of the important points that have been raised::

1. Nobody lured anybody to come to Canada. As a professional looking to relocate to another country, you must research, research, research. That includes talking to people on the ground that went ahead of you. You must find out the realities about getting into your target profession and develop your plan of how to get there. You must also be willing to reinvent yourself and choose a new path if your current path does not appear to lead to your preferred destination. Nobody coming into Canada in 2023/2024 should be surprised about the challenges in the job market or housing. You should have already discovered that through your research.

2. Your network is very critical. It's almost as if you can only grow as much as what you know, And what you know is largely dependent on who is around you. If you land and keep company with those that have given up on their dreams, you will soon give up on your dreams. If you keep the company of those that have big dreams and are constantly focussed on those dreams, you will find that you will readjust your own dreams and make them bigger, and then stay awake at night figuring out how to make it possible.

3. Practice delayed gratification. The best time to suffer and work hard in Canada is when you have just landed. That is the time you still have a lot of fire, but as time goes on, you start adjusting to the reality of the country making it difficult for you to make bold decisions. So if there are licensing exams to write, write them early. If you are choosing a new career path, choose it early.

4. Everything beautiful takes time. Your dream is going to take time. Just stay focused. Stay in your lane and keep building.


In summary, it appears that the Canadian government may be presenting an illusion of abundant job opportunities and addressing labor shortages through the Express Entry program. While the initiative is framed as a solution to these shortages, the reality for many immigrants is different; often, suitable jobs are not as accessible as expected. Consequently, skilled professionals may find themselves having to pivot to entirely new careers (such as transitioning from finance to nursing) after years of experience in their fields. This raises the question: why is the government bringing in individuals for roles that seem mismatched to actual market demand? It gives the impression that the primary motivation might be the tax revenue generated rather than a genuine need for the skills immigrants bring!!

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slydog(m): 6:49am On Nov 10, 2024
olalekan9320:


One thing I like about this country is that when people complain they try and adjust, JT didn't get many things right but look at his reform in regards to immigration, they have adjusted it, they introduced many incentives for FHSA to be able to afford a house after the whole unaffordable housing issue, I'm not sure I would be voting for any of them though they're almost the same to me so may the best win

But for provincial why are you voting conservative when they removed insurance cap, now insurance fee is skyrocketing, they have been delaying the green line LRT for Calgary folks, when Trudeau added carbon tax, they also added their own tax to gas per litre, Alberta isn't for liberal though but there's still NDP

NDP/Liberal is the same. The NDP party is in charge of Edmonton, na ppty tax them dey increase every year and running deficit.
At the Center, conservative are doing well, budget surplus last 2 or 3 years.
Economically speaking, putting caps, be it price or production caps lead to inefficiencies and are detrimental to economy growth.

On immigration problem: JT created the problem and now acting like he's providing solution to it. Create problem, proffer solution. Normal liberal politics. He shouldn't have opened the door to all Tom and dick. In the last two months, CSIS has arrested two confirmed ISIS . The issue is even that it's the CIA notifying us of these people, so we don't even know them. JT went and brought in thousands of Palestinians, today for the first time ever, we have folks chanting Death of Canada, imagine the nonsense. JT should just resign abeg.
slydog(m): 6:56am On Nov 10, 2024
affoncad:



Your response highlights a common issue in the way we talk about the immigrant experience, especially within the Nigerian community. Often, when one or two people find success, it can lead to victim-blaming of the thousands who are facing difficulties, as if they aren’t doing enough or aren’t smart enough. This attitude is all too common and dismisses the real challenges that many immigrants face.
It’s important to celebrate success stories, but let’s not ignore the reality for the majority. The system can be unfair, and thousands of new immigrants genuinely struggle to find suitable jobs. But often, as Nigerians, we hide our struggles and celebrate small wins as though they reflect everyone’s experience in Canada. Your examples of a doctor or tech professional succeeding can feel like an insult to the many who are still struggling in silence and making huge effort and still could not get a much desire job or any level of financial freedom!







Noted. To each his own.
slydog(m): 7:39am On Nov 10, 2024
amdman:


I will summarize some of the important points that have been raised::

1. Nobody lured anybody to come to Canada. As a professional looking to relocate to another country, you must research, research, research. That includes talking to people on the ground that went ahead of you. You must find out the realities about getting into your target profession and develop your plan of how to get there. You must also be willing to reinvent yourself and choose a new path if your current path does not appear to lead to your preferred destination. Nobody coming into Canada in 2023/2024 should be surprised about the challenges in the job market or housing. You should have already discovered that through your research.

2. Your network is very critical. It's almost as if you can only grow as much as what you know, And what you know is largely dependent on who is around you. If you land and keep company with those that have given up on their dreams, you will soon give up on your dreams. If you keep the company of those that have big dreams and are constantly focussed on those dreams, you will find that you will readjust your own dreams and make them bigger, and then stay awake at night figuring out how to make it possible.

3. Practice delayed gratification. The best time to suffer and work hard in Canada is when you have just landed. That is the time you still have a lot of fire, but as time goes on, you start adjusting to the reality of the country making it difficult for you to make bold decisions. So if there are licensing exams to write, write them early. If you are choosing a new career path, choose it early.

4. Everything beautiful takes time. Your dream is going to take time. Just stay focused. Stay in your lane and keep building.

Excellent summary.

Agree with point 1, 1000%. I did my research well while chasing IELTS, waiting for PR, researching cities to settle, job market all. Immediately I got PR, I began applying for jobs, all manner of jobs, I did 5 interviews in Nigeria before I arrived & got a job [one of the five I did interview for in Nigeria] two months after I arrived. Within that two months of arrival to Canada, I applied and did several interviews. I began networking with people, the church community has been a blessing for me. I realised there are lot of opportunities for upward mobility, was it easy juggling current job and applying for more jobs? No. They say pivot to IT to make 6 figure, bro, I did Scrum, I did Data Analysis, I did Business analysis all with black tech, lol. I was about starting Cybersecurity governance before I got something better. All these training na time, energy and money going o, Saturday & Sunday training training training, lol but we thank God. Nothing is easy, absolutely nothing. I know a frnd who did interview with govt 22 times and he did not give up. He just got a role now and is resuming this month 25th and moving from Saskatchewan to Alberta. Imagine if he gave up on the 10th attempt. No giving up mehn.


I agree with your second point 10,000%
I realized that like you said, if you are unfortunate when you arrive and meet people complaining about everything, if you don't leave that circle, u will be stuck with them at that level they are. When I was saving to buy my first house in one year, someone came and told me why I dey rush, say I should take life easy and enjoy and buy vacation plan to Cacun and flex the life of my head. I thank my God that not only did I not listen to this person, but few months later someone shared testimony with me say that year he bought three houses. I'm like, I'm hoping to get just one & relax the life of my head someone is buying 3 in one year. My vision changed, my goals changed. I had to put my head into my job as a credit mortgage analyst and study the nuances of real estate to be able to apply it for myself. I was looking for another job outside banking and met people working in govt, they gave me insight as well, I choose to concentrate only in applying for govt role after spending all that money and time and energy doing all those IT related courses. If u fall into the wrong clique, e go hard small.

Once again, I agree with your 3rd point. Practice delayed gratification. Look at my example above, I was working na, I could afford to take my family for vacation to Mexico, but no, I told my wife this our first three years make we hustle am, write exam we fit write, do investment we fit do. I entering Hyundai dealership, as soon as they did credit check they offer me 2023 Hyundai Sonata, 0 downpayment, small biweekly payment, I looked at it, it was a cool deal. Worst case scenario my kid ccb will pay the biweekly with no issues. I was not with my ID so I couldn't conclude that day, which was on a Friday, we were to continue on Monday. On Sunday I just told my pastor in ing say I dey bring my brand new ride for prayer on Monday. That day he opened my eye! Delayed gratification. I had the job, the means of paying, I had just bought my first house, I needed the 2023 ride to top it off. I bless God for the revelation. Dealership call me tire. I did not go back to them, manager , finance they were all calling me that the car is ready for pickup. For where, I went to Facebook and bought a 10 year old car, a 2014 Hyundai Tucson which I still drive today and paid cash, no finance. Time to buy latest car go come, time to vacation abroad go come, make we grow and build first, at least this first three years before citizenship.

I agree with point 4, 100,000%. Keep building, working hard, have a vision, write it down so he that read it will run with it. God makes all things possible in his own time, i acknowledge that not everyone may run fast, I never look down on anyone, I help in my spare time people arrange their resume and coach for interview, by God's grace I have 4 people I have coached who have good jobs today, one sef dey earn me for govt, glory to God. May nothing hold us down, Amen.

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Crummy: 8:09am On Nov 10, 2024
slydog:


Excellent summary.

Agree with point 1, 1000%. I did my research well while chasing IELTS, waiting for PR, researching cities to settle, job market all. Immediately I got PR, I began applying for jobs, all manner of jobs, I did 5 interviews in Nigeria before I arrived & got a job [one of the five I did interview for in Nigeria] two months after I arrived. Within that two months of arrival to Canada, I applied and did several interviews. I began networking with people, the church community has been a blessing for me. I realised there are lot of opportunities for upward mobility, was it easy juggling current job and applying for more jobs? No. They say pivot to IT to make 6 figure, bro, I did Scrum, I did Data Analysis, I did Business analysis all with black tech, lol. I was about starting Cybersecurity governance before I got something better. All these training na time, energy and money going o, Saturday & Sunday training training training, lol but we thank God. Nothing is easy, absolutely nothing. I know a frnd who did interview with govt 22 times and he did not give up. He just got a role now and is resuming this month 25th and moving from Saskatchewan to Alberta. Imagine if he gave up on the 10th attempt. No giving up mehn.


I agree with your second point 10,000%
I realized that like you said, if you are unfortunate when you arrive and meet people complaining about everything, if you don't leave that circle, u will be stuck with them at that level they are. When I was saving to buy my first house in one year, someone came and told me why I dey rush, say I should take life easy and enjoy and buy vacation plan to Cacun and flex the life of my head. I thank my God that not only did I not listen to this person, but few months later someone shared testimony with me say that year he bought three houses. I'm like, I'm hoping to get just one & relax the life of my head someone is buying 3 in one year. My vision changed, my goals changed. I had to put my head into my job as a credit mortgage analyst and study the nuances of real estate to be able to apply it for myself. I was looking for another job outside banking and met people working in govt, they gave me insight as well, I choose to concentrate only in applying for govt role after spending all that money and time and energy doing all those IT related courses. If u fall into the wrong clique, e go hard small.

Once again, I agree with your 3rd point. Practice delayed gratification. Look at my example above, I was working na, I could afford to take my family for vacation to Mexico, but no, I told my wife this our first three years make we hustle am, write exam we fit write, do investment we fit do. I entering Hyundai dealership, as soon as they did credit check they offer me 2023 Hyundai Sonata, 0 downpayment, small biweekly payment, I looked at it, it was a cool deal. Worst case scenario my kid ccb will pay the biweekly with no issues. I was not with my ID so I couldn't conclude that day, which was on a Friday, we were to continue on Monday. On Sunday I just told my pastor in ing say I dey bring my brand new ride for prayer on Monday. That day he opened my eye! Delayed gratification. I had the job, the means of paying, I had just bought my first house, I needed the 2023 ride to top it off. I bless God for the revelation. Dealership call me tire. I did not go back to them, manager , finance they were all calling me that the car is ready for pickup. For where, I went to Facebook and bought a 10 year old car, a 2014 Hyundai Tucson which I still drive today and paid cash, no finance. Time to buy latest car go come, time to vacation abroad go come, make we grow and build first, at least this first three years before citizenship.

I agree with point 4, 100,000%. Keep building, working hard, have a vision, write it down so he that read it will run with it. God makes all things possible in his own time, i acknowledge that not everyone may run fast, I never look down on anyone, I help in my spare time people arrange their resume and coach for interview, by God's grace I have 4 people I have coached who have good jobs today, one sef dey earn me for govt, glory to God. May nothing hold us down, Amen.
how did the training from BlackTECH help you? I am also doing a business analysis course with them and also on coursera. Do you have any advise on a special career path to follow? Note, I am a student currently studying GBM. Thanks in advance for your response.
NuCypher: 2:14pm On Nov 10, 2024
Deeegbee:


10 years when you get approved as a PR.
Not 10 years if you applied in Nigeria, even if you are a Canadian PR. You'd likely get a lesser number of years, but not the automatic 10 PRs get in Canada.

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NuCypher: 2:30pm On Nov 10, 2024
slydog:


Tell me more please.
Is it that the insurance doesn't doesnt work? The term or perm live or resp, do they work when u need them or not?
I'd say his advice carries some weight. While some of these insurances do work, they often come with payments that are hard to maintain or clauses that can result in complete loss of previous payments, all hidden deep in convoluted pages and pages of text. Let's not deceive ourselves. There's a reason the immigrant community who know no better are squarely targeted for these products. In fact, it has gotten so bad that their salesmen only need to see that you are black to approach you.

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NuCypher: 2:31pm On Nov 10, 2024
House34:



In summary, it appears that the Canadian government may be presenting an illusion of abundant job opportunities and addressing labor shortages through the Express Entry program. While the initiative is framed as a solution to these shortages, the reality for many immigrants is different; often, suitable jobs are not as accessible as expected. Consequently, skilled professionals may find themselves having to pivot to entirely new careers (such as transitioning from finance to nursing) after years of experience in their fields. This raises the question: why is the government bringing in individuals for roles that seem mismatched to actual market demand? It gives the impression that the primary motivation might be the tax revenue generated rather than a genuine need for the skills immigrants bring!!
Chatgpt?

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AirBay: 2:54pm On Nov 10, 2024
@slydog dy type abeg.. Drymonton people grin

Wahala no dy finish for this world o cheesy

Also people should always state the type of nursing they practice (RN is different from LPN) RN is better. 2-2.5years sharply

Anyone coming from Nigeria and has a background in life Sciences e.g. Biology, Microbiology, Biochemistry, Chemistry e.t.c. Just dump it and start 200L Nursing prog. Stop looking for jobs especially im Alberta/BC and environs, it's better to run to PEI.

Majority of Nigerians looking for jobs have refused to go back to school... take student loans, stop wasting money on data/business analysis courses. Na that scrum dy vex me . Na so so six figure dm go dy shout as if it's easy to get a job paying 100k. Now scrum/data/business analysis don die na Payroll courses dm dy shout around again.

@slydog, me sef i no get realtor licence but i don sell 1 condo this year grin Abeg if you get customer for Calgary...link me up o. I no get energy for 2 jobs.

As for those life insurance and scrum people, na heaven we go settle the matter. grin

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slydog(m): 3:05pm On Nov 10, 2024
Crummy:
how did the training from BlackTECH help you? I am also doing a business analysis course with them and also on coursera. Do you have any advise on a special career path to follow? Note, I am a student currently studying GBM. Thanks in advance for your response.

Their training help a lot, they have testimonies of their student getting jobs. But you hv to put in the work.
The path to follow will be based on what you study [i don't know what GBM is], your research on potential careers you feel you can do very well and the one that have good job prospects i belive.
slydog(m): 3:19pm On Nov 10, 2024
AirBay:
@slydog dy type abeg.. Drymonton people grin

Wahala no dy finish for this world o cheesy

Also people should always state the type of nursing they practice (RN is different from LPN) RN is better. 2-2.5years sharply

Anyone coming from Nigeria and has a background in life Sciences e.g. Biology, Microbiology, Biochemistry, Chemistry e.t.c. Just dump it and start 200L Nursing prog. Stop looking for jobs especially im Alberta/BC and environs, it's better to run to PEI.

Majority of Nigerians looking for jobs have refused to go back to school... take student loans, stop wasting money on data/business analysis courses. Na that scrum dy vex me . Na so so six figure dm go dy shout as if it's easy to get a job paying 100k. Now scrum/data/business analysis don die na Payroll courses dm dy shout around again.

@slydog, me sef i no get realtor licence but i don sell 1 condo this year grin Abeg if you get customer for Calgary...link me up o. I no get energy for 2 jobs.

As for those life insurance and scrum people, na heaven we go settle the matter. grin

Na long weekend we dey na, we get time to write lol.

I did not mention i did a free Leadership program organized by African Center and Northern Alberta Institute of Technology [NAIT], thus I'm an Ujima Fellow smiley. I'm also schooling and studying for a diploma in office management, graduating in February next year. Bro, we dey put in the work na.

Na Edmonton we dey na, we go go grow to get client for Calgary.

Mehn, when we come na 6figure everyone dey should, scrum, data, business analysis, IT Cybersecurity governance. And na money dey commot to do all these training o. Because one IT Cybersecurity big guy dey my area, big house, every new naija person way land, once they see his house and cars everybody go wan do Cybersecurity, but e no easy like that o. God will help us. Them don sell insurance to me tire, now insurance say mk I write d exam and make d commission for myself like sharp guy. I dey wait for that bros here to give me update on this insurance stuff. Exam is $200 to make commission of like $3k if I do permanent life insurance for my self.

I did second job for 5 months only, night shift 12midnight to 8am, and I resume at my main job by 8:15am, you see the struggle and hustle? Days dey way I no dey bath enter my main job for morning. Till now my sleep life is disrupted lol, God is in control.
slydog(m): 3:22pm On Nov 10, 2024
NuCypher:

I'd say his advice carries some weight. While some of these insurances do work, they often come with payments that are hard to maintain or clauses that can result in complete loss of previous payments, all hidden deep in convoluted pages and pages of text. Let's not deceive ourselves. There's a reason the immigrant community who know no better are squarely targeted for these products. In fact, it has gotten so bad that their salesmen only need to see that you are black to approach you.
Interesting, though I realized it's only one company that most immigrants insurance agents use and that's ivari.

But I do note that there are other insurance companies like the insurance companies of the big 4 banks and all.

So would u suggest I buy insurance from the big names and avoid d one that targets immigrants or not buy at all?
slydog(m): 3:28pm On Nov 10, 2024
NuCypher:

Chatgpt?

Hihihi
Kenn55: 3:46pm On Nov 10, 2024
House34:



In summary, it appears that the Canadian government may be presenting an illusion of abundant job opportunities and addressing labor shortages through the Express Entry program. While the initiative is framed as a solution to these shortages, the reality for many immigrants is different; often, suitable jobs are not as accessible as expected. Consequently, skilled professionals may find themselves having to pivot to entirely new careers (such as transitioning from finance to nursing) after years of experience in their fields. This raises the question: why is the government bringing in individuals for roles that seem mismatched to actual market demand? It gives the impression that the primary motivation might be the tax revenue generated rather than a genuine need for the skills immigrants bring!!

It is not a black and white issue as you are making it sound. The government brings in people based on the qualifications and experiences they said they have and whether they really have that skills they claim will be tested by employers once they arrive.
A lot of immigrants parading excellent resumes claiming years of experience may not be actually as good as they claim ooo. Some claim years of experience but can't intermediate level coding tests.
I used to think probation was mere formality, once you get a job, you no get wahala again. I didn't know it was a serious issue. Last week in my organization, a senior developer was fired after his probation and it was the 3rd time I'm seeing someone asked to go after probation. This developer was making too many mistakes that even entry level developers will likely not make but he claimed to have 7 years experience from his country. At the end, the team lost confidence in him as he was dragging everyone back and they had no choice than to let him go at the end of his probation. When you see him driving uber tomorrow, you will think there is no job but the problem is actually him. My worry is that the hiring manager would probably want to poach someone from a rival company and pay him more money instead of gambling with immigrants whose experience is outside the country cos of this experience

I have referred someone who got an interview but couldn't answer basic questions for someone who claim to have years of experience. At the end, he didn't get the job but he started blaming me for not telling him what the hiring manager will ask, how? Am I the hiring manager? How could you not answer basic questions on something you claimed you did?


If you are not well grounded in your skills and experience, it is going to be difficult, your years of experience count for nothing if you can't demonstrate your skills and capabilities especiallyin the tech space. Interviews are mostly thorough so you may not sef especially if it is an intermediate or senior role. So there may be jobs, the question is do you have what it takes to get it?

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funkyy598: 3:52pm On Nov 10, 2024
NuCypher:

Chatgpt?

Mr. , class of know-it-all and oversabi people. Even if it is ChatGPT, is there anything wrong with people using artificial intelligence to aid their writing and research? You Definitely you lack some common sense with your approach!

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slydog(m): 3:53pm On Nov 10, 2024
Kenn55:


It is not a black and white issue as you are making it sound. The government brings in people based on the qualifications and experiences they said they have and whether they really have that skills they claim will be tested by employers once they arrive.
A lot of immigrants parading excellent resumes claiming years of experience may not be actually as good as they claim ooo. Some claim years of experience but can't intermediate level coding tests.
I used to think probation was mere formality, once you get a job, you no get wahala again. I didn't know it was a serious issue. Last week in my organization, a senior developer was fired after his probation and it was the 3rd time I'm seeing someone asked to go after probation. This developer was making too many mistakes that even entry level developers will likely not make but he claimed to have 7 years experience from his country. At the end, the team lost confidence in him as he was dragging everyone back and they had no choice than to let him go at the end of his probation. When you see him driving uber tomorrow, you will think there is no job but the problem is actually him. My worry is that the hiring manager would probably want to poach someone from a rival company and pay him more money instead of gambling with immigrants whose experience is outside the country cos of this experience

I have referred someone who got an interview but couldn't answer basic questions for someone who claim to have years of experience. At the end, he didn't get the job but he started blaming me for not telling him what the hiring manager will ask, how? Am I the hiring manager? How could you not answer basic questions on something you claimed you did?


If you are not well grounded in your skills and experience, it is going to be difficult, your years of experience count for nothing if you can't demonstrate your skills and capabilities especiallyin the tech space. Interviews are mostly thorough so you may not sef especially if it is an intermediate or senior role. So there may be jobs, the question is do you have what it takes to get it?

Gbam.
After i finish data analysis training and began applying for roles, I got a company, sent me test to write, we arrange am in-house, you know every. Next they called me for in-house presentation with python.
Python I claimed I'm an expert in on resume, but it's just 3 months crash course we did, bro I did not go, cos I know I will fumble. That's how I knew I wasted $2k on data training and moved to BA.
Lol
AirBay: 3:55pm On Nov 10, 2024
funkyy598:


Mr. , class of know-it-all and oversabi people. Even if it is ChatGPT, is there anything wrong with people using artificial intelligence to aid their writing and research? You Definitely you lack some common sense with your approach!

It was just a Question.
funkyy598: 4:00pm On Nov 10, 2024
AirBay:


It was just a Question.

A silly and irrelevant question if you smart you know!
funkyy598: 4:05pm On Nov 10, 2024
Kenn55:


It is not a black and white issue as you are making it sound. The government brings in people based on the qualifications and experiences they said they have and whether they really have that skills they claim will be tested by employers once they arrive.
A lot of immigrants parading excellent resumes claiming years of experience may not be actually as good as they claim ooo. Some claim years of experience but can't intermediate level coding tests.
I used to think probation was mere formality, once you get a job, you no get wahala again. I didn't know it was a serious issue. Last week in my organization, a senior developer was fired after his probation and it was the 3rd time I'm seeing someone asked to go after probation. This developer was making too many mistakes that even entry level developers will likely not make but he claimed to have 7 years experience from his country. At the end, the team lost confidence in him as he was dragging everyone back and they had no choice than to let him go at the end of his probation. When you see him driving uber tomorrow, you will think there is no job but the problem is actually him. My worry is that the hiring manager would probably want to poach someone from a rival company and pay him more money instead of gambling with immigrants whose experience is outside the country cos of this experience

I have referred someone who got an interview but couldn't answer basic questions for someone who claim to have years of experience. At the end, he didn't get the job but he started blaming me for not telling him what the hiring manager will ask, how? Am I the hiring manager? How could you not answer basic questions on something you claimed you did?


If you are not well grounded in your skills and experience, it is going to be difficult, your years of experience count for nothing if you can't demonstrate your skills and capabilities especiallyin the tech space. Interviews are mostly thorough so you may not sef especially if it is an intermediate or senior role. So there may be jobs, the question is do you have what it takes to get it?

Based on your assumption, the majority of new immigrants are not getting jobs in Canada because they are not qualified, even though the jobs are available. So, it's not a case of job unavailability... CASE CLOSED!

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AirBay: 4:13pm On Nov 10, 2024
funkyy598:


A silly and irrelevant question if you smart you know!
grin grin grin na sha still question
jayF19: 5:10pm On Nov 10, 2024
Deeegbee:


10 years when you get approved as a PR.

Did you apply from Nigeria?
Crummy: 5:20pm On Nov 10, 2024
slydog:


Their training help a lot, they have testimonies of their student getting jobs. But you hv to put in the work.
The path to follow will be based on what you study [i don't know what GBM is], your research on potential careers you feel you can do very well and the one that have good job prospects i belive.
Gbm is global business management. Thanks for your response.
koreanlord: 6:28pm On Nov 10, 2024
slydog:


Gbam.
After i finish data analysis training and began applying for roles, I got a company, sent me test to write, we arrange am in-house, you know every. Next they called me for in-house presentation with python.
Python I claimed I'm an expert in on resume, but it's just 3 months crash course we did, bro I did not go, cos I know I will fumble. That's how I knew I wasted $2k on data training and moved to BA.
Lol
lwkmd... bro...where do we get those govt openings you applied to?
Kenn55: 7:36pm On Nov 10, 2024
funkyy598:


Based on your assumption, the majority of new immigrants are not getting jobs in Canada because they are not qualified, even though the jobs are available. So, it's not a case of job unavailability... CASE CLOSED!

My brother that is not my conclusion cos I don't any data to back it up. I'm just laying out some factors that could be an issue as i have seen around me. The reality is that the job market is tough at the moment but then some people are not also helping their case when the opportunity comes cos they aren't as good as they should be. So at the end of the day, it is a combination of different factors not just one.

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NuCypher: 9:57pm On Nov 10, 2024
funkyy598:


Mr. , class of know-it-all and oversabi people. Even if it is ChatGPT, is there anything wrong with people using artificial intelligence to aid their writing and research? You Definitely you lack some common sense with your approach!
Lmao. Just one word and zero opinion, and you are this triggered? grin

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Redslip: 12:45am On Nov 11, 2024
slydog:


Gbam.
After i finish data analysis training and began applying for roles, I got a company, sent me test to write, we arrange am in-house, you know every. Next they called me for in-house presentation with python.
Python I claimed I'm an expert in on resume, but it's just 3 months crash course we did, bro I did not go, cos I know I will fumble. That's how I knew I wasted $2k on data training and moved to BA.
Lol

grin angry
Kcenyimbk: 1:41am On Nov 11, 2024
thanks a lot
Tcrown2020:

You are better of with a diploma in the healthcare sector
geekybabe(f): 7:07am On Nov 11, 2024
slydog:


Gbam.
After i finish data analysis training and began applying for roles, I got a company, sent me test to write, we arrange am in-house, you know every. Next they called me for in-house presentation with python.
Python I claimed I'm an expert in on resume, but it's just 3 months crash course we did, bro I did not go, cos I know I will fumble. That's how I knew I wasted $2k on data training and moved to BA.
Lol
grin grin

Lols. Mehn . You don hustle. Even me who has been in the data space for over 3 years and I’ve done extensive python coding, I messed up in all the live coding interviews I had to do. So I can totally relate.

Experience matters a great deal tho. Beyond all these 3 months crash course. But even with my experience I got many rejections till I finally started getting offers. Me a whole tech star with over 10 years of experience in many roles cheesy . Canada humbled me mehn. When I eventually got jobs in the data space, with my masters and certifications, I didn’t get any 6 figure offers cheesy. But I am grateful I got something good in my field. Job search was humbling and exhausting and it was a huge relief to finally find a paid employment.

Online course vendors have sold false hopes to many. Learn data analysis and land 6 figure job. Learn cybersecurity and land 6 figure roles. Blah blah. Maybe it worked a few years ago. But today’s economy is different and every fancy tech role is super saturated. I’m in tech myself but I know that I have to jump on a side hustle fast because somehow, this country can be volatile with jobs. The private sector especially. I hear about layoffs and it’s like a normal thing these days. One has to keep thinking outside the box.

Anyways, let’s just take each day as it comes and keep trying our best.

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