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MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for your time but i don't think i will like to discuss with you since we never agreed on who is a Christian!

Artful Dodger

tctrills:

Ok because I did not buy into you church doctrine, you will not discuss with me .
I guess you should have stated that this was a thread for only those who believe in JW doctrines.

But then for the sake of others on the thread, can you attempt the above questions
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He dodges questions. maximumSide is taking cover as a soldier.

Iamanoited:
JESUS DOESN'T NEED ANY PROOF. JESUS IS THE LORD, THE LIFE AND THE RESURRECTION.

AND HE IS THE PROPITIATION FOR OUR SINS.

In summary: JESUS IS THE PROOF.

Iamanoited:

JESUS DOESN'T NEED ANY PROOF.

Of course he needs to explain how John could be the long awaited Elijah since the name God's word told the Jews is "Elijah" not John {Malachi 4:5} and as for Jesus himself he needs to prove that he is the real Christ since the scriptures never said the Christ will be called "Jesus" rather the scriptures said the Christ will be called "Emmanuel" not "Jesus" Isaiah 7:14

So if Jesus (whose followers need to proof to the Jews that he is the real Christ) claimed John the baptist is Elijah to come what evidence does he have?

JESUS IS THE KJV TRANSLATION OF YHWH YAHWEH JEHOVAH MESSIAH ISLAM ISAH ETC ETC.

Iamanoited:

JESUS IS THE KJV TRANSLATION OF YHWH YAHWEH JEHOVAH MESSIAH ISLAM ISAH ETC ETC.

Can you explain what is happening @ Psalms 110:1?
Who is the LORD that's ordering another Lord?

MaxInDHouse:
@ Matthew 11:11-14 we read:

Truly I say to you, among those born of women, there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom of the heavens is greater than he is. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the Kingdom of the heavens is the goal toward which men press, and those pressing forward are seizing it. For all, the Prophets and the Law, prophesied until John; and if you are willing to accept it, he (John the baptist) is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come.

And @ Matthew 17:10-13 we read:

However, the disciples put the question to him: “Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” In reply he said: “E·liʹjah is indeed coming and will restore all things. However, I say to you that E·liʹjah has already come, and they did not recognize him but did whatever they wanted with him. In this way also, the Son of man is going to suffer at their hands.” Then the disciples perceived that he spoke to them about John the Baptist

From the two highlighted scriptures we found out that Jesus is implying that John the baptist is the long awaited Elijah. Malachi 4:5

First of all the Jews knew very well that Elijah was not a Jew rather he was a Samaritan and secondly he was taken up to heaven by chariots of fire. So if Elijah should return he could have either been born in Samaria or descended from heaven just as he was taken but instead he was born among the Jews.

So if we want to explain using the scriptures to help a modern day Judaist what evidence does Jesus of Nazareth and his disciples have in the Old Testament to ascertain that John the baptist was truly Elijah?

This is a powerful question that touches on the mysteries of prophecy and divine revelation. Let us approach it with an open heart and mind, seeking understanding together.

The connection between John the Baptist and Elijah is a beautiful example of how God's plan unfolds in ways we may not always expect. While it's true that the details don't align perfectly with human expectations, we must that spiritual truths often transcend literal interpretations.

In John the Baptist, we see the spirit and power of Elijah manifested anew. This fulfillment of prophecy speaks to the continuity of God's message across generations, even as it takes new forms. It invites us to look beyond surface-level appearances and seek the deeper spiritual significance.

For our brothers and sisters who may struggle with this concept, I would encourage a dialogue that explores the nature of prophetic fulfillment. Perhaps we can reflect together on how God's ways often surprise us, challenging our preconceptions and inviting us into a more powerful understanding of His work in the world.

In the end, what matters most is not the precise details of how prophecy is fulfilled, but our openness to recognizing God's presence and message in unexpected places and people. Let us approach these questions with humility, love, and a willingness to see with the eyes of faith.

armchairscholar:


This is a powerful question that touches on the mysteries of prophecy and divine revelation. Let us approach it with an open heart and mind, seeking understanding together.

The connection between John the Baptist and Elijah is a beautiful example of how God's plan unfolds in ways we may not always expect. While it's true that the details don't align perfectly with human expectations, we must that spiritual truths often transcend literal interpretations.

In John the Baptist, we see the spirit and power of Elijah manifested anew. This fulfillment of prophecy speaks to the continuity of God's message across generations, even as it takes new forms. It invites us to look beyond surface-level appearances and seek the deeper spiritual significance.

For our brothers and sisters who may struggle with this concept, I would encourage a dialogue that explores the nature of prophetic fulfillment. Perhaps we can reflect together on how God's ways often surprise us, challenging our preconceptions and inviting us into a more powerful understanding of His work in the world.

In the end, what matters most is not the precise details of how prophecy is fulfilled, but our openness to recognizing God's presence and message in unexpected places and people. Let us approach these questions with humility, love, and a willingness to see with the eyes of faith.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, you're wonderful!

But then if you truly as in truly believe what is highlighted do you still think we can use the same approach to IDENTIFY the GROUP that's PRACTICING what Jesus taught today?

MaxInDHouse:


If only you will welcome a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses.

I can guarantee that you will know them just ask for a free home Bible study with Jehovah's Witnesses!

I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching

MaxInDHouse:


NO!
Disappointments and deception led many into questioning their religions but most does with the wrong motive!

Take for instance someone whose pastor used what Jesus said @ Matthew 7:7-8 to extort money from him:

“Keep on ASKING, and it will be given you; keep on SEEKING, and you will find; keep on KNOCKING, and it will be opened to you; for everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking, it will be opened.

Billions have been misled thinking Jesus was talking about material possessions here so the pastors will quote this place then ask them to drop whatever is in their pockets for him to spend but they should continue asking God for their own needs.

I learned something on this your comment

Kingsempires:

I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching

I learned something on this your comment

If you continue to agree with me you will end up becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses in a very short time! Act 26:28

That's why your friends are here to manipulate things and distract you from listening to what i am saying!

MaxInDHouse:


If you continue to agree with me you will end up becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses in a very short time! Act 26:28

to be honest my mother is a protestant, and some days when JWs comes to our house to preach and also give her some watchtower books her always read the book but she is still attending her church so why is she reading the watchtower books is

because her learn something in the watchtower books.even do her is not a JW

So the thing is that I like some of your teaching

MaxInDHouse:



That's why your friends are here to manipulate things and distract you from listening to what i am saying!

there are Free to talk as they like this is a forum as for me I will never criticize any of my fellow christian all less he /she first start the criticizing

Kingsempires:

to be honest my mother is a protestant, and some days when JWs comes to our house to preach and also give her some watchtower books her always read the book but she is still attending her church so why is she reading the watchtower books is

because her learn something in the watchtower books.even do her is not a JW

So the thing is that I like some of your teaching


there are Free to talk as they like this is a forum as for me I will never criticize any of my fellow christian all less he /she first start the criticizing

It's really cool reading the highlighted.

Many also feel the same way about me:

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:

MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:

Please, Tell Him.
Wiser One.
I hope they learn someday that their ways are not TRUE.
Their Eyes Are Closed.

Questionnaires:

There's Alot of Sense in What You Wrote.
Now; How Does The JW Prefer And Advise We Run A Country Like Nigeria ?

Questionnaires:

I want to.
You can let me know.

Questionnaires:

Surprisingly And Truthfully;
It's A Honour For You, King.
I'm Positioning Myself To Help Provide A Meeting Point For All Humanity. That We Should Love Our Neighbours As We Love Ourselves.
This Alone - Is The Greatest Treat For Humanity.

Questionnaires:

You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:

Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:

Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:

Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Just imagine someone called me "King" another called me "angel" yet another beautiful young lady called me "Sugar Daddy" all on this same forum simply because i speak sweet things that gladdens their hearts.

So you're welcome my friend but it's hard to say that only Jehovah's Witnesses are my own brothers and sisters in the faith!

MaxInDHouse:




So you're welcome my friend but it's hard to say that only Jehovah's Witnesses are my own brothers and sisters in the faith!

ok no problem

"Can you explain what is happening @ Psalms 110:1?
Who is the LORD that's ordering another Lord"? ASK MAXINDHOUSE.

KING DAVID, THE MAN AFTER THE HEART OF GOD, WAS A KING, A PROPHET OF GOD AND SO HIMSELF A MASTER, BOSS, RULER AND A LORD IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
PSALM 110:1 WAS A SPECIAL DIVINATION TO DAVID THAT THE MESSAIH, FROM HIS LINEAGE, JESUS, WOULD, AFTER HIS RESURRECTION, BE HEIR TO THE THRONE OF THE LORDGOD IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM WOULD BE CO-HEIRS WITH HIM IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, THE LORD OF THE UNIVERSE, WHO WILL ACCOMMODATE THE HEIR AND ALL THE CO-HEIRS AT HIS RIGHT HAND AND PUT THEIR ENEMIES UNDERNEATH THEIR FEET.
MAY ALL HONOUR AND GLORY BE TO GOD, THE LORD OF THE UNIVERSE AND TO JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR IN WHOM BE MAJESTY AND WORSHIP FOR EVER AND EVER, AMEN.[code][/code]

Iamanoited:

"Can you explain what is happening @ Psalms 110:1?
Who is the LORD that's ordering another Lord"? ASK MAXINDHOUSE.

KING DAVID, THE MAN AFTER THE HEART OF GOD, WAS A KING, A PROPHET OF GOD AND SO HIMSELF A MASTER, BOSS, RULER AND A LORD IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
PSALM 110:1 WAS A SPECIAL DIVINATION TO DAVID THAT THE MESSAIH, FROM HIS LINEAGE, JESUS, WOULD, AFTER HIS RESURRECTION, BE HEIR TO THE THRONE OF THE LORDGOD IN HEAVEN AND ON EARTH AND THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN HIM WOULD BE CO-HEIRS WITH HIM IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD, THE LORD OF THE UNIVERSE, WHO WILL ACCOMMODATE THE HEIR AND ALL THE CO-HEIRS AT HIS RIGHT HAND AND PUT THEIR ENEMIES UNDERNEATH THEIR FEET.
MAY ALL HONOUR AND GLORY BE TO GOD, THE LORD OF THE UNIVERSE AND TO JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR IN WHOM BE MAJESTY AND WORSHIP FOR EVER AND EVER, AMEN.[code][/code]

So Jesus is not the same as Jehovah!

MaxInDHouse:


So Jesus is not the same as Jehovah!

JESUS IS JEHOVAH, MESSIAH, ISLAM, ISAH, YHWH, YAHWEH, LAMB OF GOD, MAN OF GOD, THE LORD, THE LIGHT, THE GOOD, THE LIFE, THE FAITH, THE HOPE, PEACE OF GOD AND GOD IN LOVE.
IN YORUBA JESUS IS ODUDUIWA.

Iamanoited:

JESUS IS JEHOVAH, MESSIAH, ISLAM, ISAH, YHWH, YAHWEH, LAMB OF GOD, MAN OF GOD, THE LORD, THE LIGHT, THE GOOD, THE LIFE, THE FAITH, THE HOPE, PEACE OF GOD AND GOD IN LOVE.
IN YORUBA JESUS IS ODUDUIWA.

According to David how many Lords are there in Psalms 110:1 ?

MaxInDHouse:


According to David how many Lords are there in Psalms 110:1 ?

NUMEROUS INCLUDING YOU AND ME DEPENDING ON YOUR WISDOM KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.
THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION, THE SUPREME SPIRIT, HAS GIVEN ALL WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS TO BE HIS ANOINTED RIGHTEOUS AND SOVEREIGN LORD OF ALL CIRCUMSTANCES IN CHRIST JESUS.

Iamanoited:

NUMEROUS INCLUDING YOU AND ME DEPENDING ON YOUR WISDOM KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING.
THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION, THE SUPREME SPIRIT, HAS GIVEN ALL WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS TO BE HIS ANOINTED RIGHTEOUS AND SOVEREIGN LORD OF ALL CIRCUMSTANCES IN CHRIST JESUS.

Guy stop deceiving yourself!

David addressed two persons as Lord so who are the two Lords?

That's the question!

Youareforgiven:

✝ Malachi 4:5

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: "

KJV Bible

Do you now see that Jesus Christ is the Lord in this scripture. He sent Elijah aka John the Baptist before His coming. Malachi 4:5 said that Yahweh will send Elijah.

Do you understand the meaning of that word?

Please explain to me why John the Baptist is Elijah..
How do you people even do this ?

Let me give you a hint!
The dreadful day has not come...

sonmvayina:


Do you understand the meaning of that word?

Please explain to me why John the Baptist is Elijah..
How do you people even do this ?

Let me give you a hint!
The dreadful day has not come...

✝ Malachi 4:5

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the [/color][/b]great and dreadful[b][color=#000000] day of the LORD: "

You saw great and dreadful. What is the meaning of and? The first coming of Jesus Christ was great. He came as a suffering servant. A Lamb fattened for slaughter, for sins of the world. But His second coming will be dreadful. He will be coming as a Lion to devour those who are unrighteous and at the same time refused the garment of righteousness God provided for them in Christ Jesus to cover them up.

✝ Matthew 3:11

"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: "

This is John the Baptist speaking... Jesus Christ has two baptism to perform upon all flesh.
The first Baptism is baptism of the Holy Spirit for those who accept Him as their over Lamb.
The second baptism is baptism of fire for those who reject His gift of righteousness and trust in their own righteousness which is like a filthy rag. Hope you understand now.

Youareforgiven:

✝ Malachi 4:5

"Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the [/color][/b]great and dreadful[b][color=#000000] day of the LORD: "

You saw great and dreadful. What is the meaning of and? The first coming of Jesus Christ was great. He came as a suffering servant. A Lamb fattened for slaughter, for sins of the world. But His second coming will be dreadful. He will be coming as a Lion to devour those who are unrighteous and at the same time refused the garment of righteousness God provided for them in Christ Jesus to cover them up.

✝ Matthew 3:11

"I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: "

This is John the Baptist speaking... Jesus Christ has two baptism to perform upon all flesh.
The first Baptism is baptism of the Holy Spirit for those who accept Him as their over Lamb.
The second baptism is baptism of fire for those who reject His gift of righteousness and trust in their own righteousness which is like a filthy rag. Hope you understand now.

How many times did God say the Messiah was going to come?
Where did you people even get all these ideas that does not even make any sense from?
It's talking about what will happen to herald the messianic era....
When God finally sends his Messiah, not the idol created by Rome..

sonmvayina:


How many times did God say the Messiah was going to come?
Where did you people even get all these ideas that does not even make any sense from?
It's talking about what will happen to herald the messianic era....
When God finally sends his Messiah, not the idol created by Rome..

Lol... I get you don't believe in Jesus Christ altogether. You think He is the creation of Rome. Is this what you believe?

Youareforgiven:


Lol... I get you don't believe in Jesus Christ altogether. You think He is the creation of Rome. Is this what you believe?

Yes...

He was created by Rome...to deceive and control..

sonmvayina:


Yes...

He was created by Rome...to deceive and control..

So how do plan to be forgiven by God,? Abi you don't sin? Do you still sacrifice rams and sheeps for your sin offering today? I know why I ask.

Or do you just ask of forgiveness, hoping that God will wave away your sins because you asked.

"Guy stop deceiving yourself!

David addressed two persons as Lord so who are the two Lords?

That's the question"!


CHECK A GOOD ENGLISH DICTIONARY FOR THE WORD LORD.

THE FIRST LORD IS THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION, GOD IN GOD'SPERE.
THE SECOND IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN CHRIST JESUS.

READ GENESIS 1-4. KJV.
THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORDS OF GOD IS NOT GRANTED TO THE ATHEISTS.

Iamanoited:
"Guy stop deceiving yourself!

David addressed two persons as Lord so who are the two Lords?

That's the question"!

THE FIRST LORD IS THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION, GOD IN GOD'SPERE.
THE SECOND IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN CHRIST JESUS.

READ GENESIS 1-4. KJV.
THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORDS OF GOD IS NOT GRANTED TO THE ATHEISTS.

You can't twist this one my guy because Peter one of the closest confidants of Jesus and a born again Christian filled with the spirit of God said:

For David did not ascend to the heavens, but he himself says, ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”’ Therefore, let all the house of Israel know for a certainty that God made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you executed on a stake.” Act 2:34-36

According to APOSTLE Peter Jehovah and Jesus are two separate entities and it's Jehovah who raised Jesus from the dead in fact Paul said Jehovah granted Jesus' supplications because Jesus was full of godly fear! Hebrews 5:7

If you're looking for people to dribble with vain words that won't work with witnesses of Jehovah!

Youareforgiven:


So how do plan to be forgiven by God,? Abi you don't sin? Do you still sacrifice rams and sheeps for your sin offering today? I know why I ask.

Or do you just ask of forgiveness, hoping that God will wave away your sins because you asked.

See 2nd chronicles 7:14.

I hope it answers your question.

Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer...

Iamanoited:
"Guy stop deceiving yourself!

David addressed two persons as Lord so who are the two Lords?

That's the question"!


CHECK A GOOD ENGLISH DICTIONARY FOR THE WORD LORD.

THE FIRST LORD IS THE GRAND ORDER DOMINION, GOD IN GOD'SPERE.
THE SECOND IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN CHRIST JESUS.

READ GENESIS 1-4. KJV.
THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORDS OF GOD IS NOT GRANTED TO THE ATHEISTS.

David wrote the psalm and gave it to the choirmaster...

So the two lords are David and the most high...


Psalms are meant to be sung during worship..


Comprende??

MaxInDHouse:


Guy stop deceiving yourself!

David addressed two persons as Lord so who are the two Lords?

That's the question!

David wrote the psalm and gave it to the choirmaster...

Psalms are meant to be sung during service.

So the psalm when sung by the choirmaster will read..

The Lord(most high) said to my lord (David).....

If you read it in context, but as usual.....you will close your eyes to it....

sonmvayina:


See 2nd chronicles 7:14.

I hope it answers your question.

Human sacrifice belongs to the realm of Lucifer...

✝ 2 Chronicles 7:4

"Then the king and all the people offered sacrifices before the LORD."

KJV Bible✝ 2 Chronicles 7:5

"And king Solomon offered a sacrifice of twenty and two thousand oxen, and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep: so the king and all the people dedicated the house of God."

KJV Bible

Why didn't you start from beginning?

sonmvayina:

David wrote the psalm and gave it to the choirmaster...
Psalms are meant to be sung during service.
So the psalm when sung by the choirmaster will read..
The Lord(most high) said to my lord (David).....
If you read it in context, but as usual.....you will close your eyes to it....

Did David believe in the coming Jewish Messiah?