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saddler:

See Africans arguing about and worshipping the ancestors of a people in faraway middle east.

The colonialists left Africa a long time ago but those who were enslaved are still having the chains on and happily brandishing it.

Are you a muslim?

SlavaUkraini:
She is still the Mother of Joseph...

The Greatest of the 12 Sons...

She gave birth to Quality and not Quality.

So Allow Rachel to "Breathe", forget her Flaws.

Another angool.

femi4:
Her death has nothing to do with her character

This your caption and the overall message was poorly articulated

I said it, all these men of god are like average bloggers, they just concoct any BS and post for their gullible audience.

saddler:

See Africans arguing about and worshipping the ancestors of a people in faraway middle east.

The colonialists left Africa a long time ago but those who were enslaved are still having the chains on and happily brandishing it.

I tire for africans glory flying other religion, values and culture.. Arguing over nonsense. The pope and Arch bishop of England have moved on with their ideas and beliefs.
Africans still dey rely on a book comprised by the Roman Empire when the men who went to Antioch never had sight of electricity and technology.
How do you develop in 2024 based on doctrines written over 2000 years ago?

SlavaUkraini:
She is still the Mother of Joseph...

The Greatest of the 12 Sons...

She gave birth to Quality and not Quality.

So Allow Rachel to "Breathe", forget her Flaws.

Quantity

zomoears:

Leah was an uncommon woman.

She watched for 7 years as her husband worked for her father so he could marry another woman.

Do whatever you like with that

Perhaps you meant to say "Rachel" because Leah knew from day one that Jacob is not for her, his heart is with Rachel so if Laban later breached the contract Leah should know that it's unjustified, she's having what doesn't rightly belongs to her!

baraboo98:
IF YOU CAN START BRING STORIES ABOUT OUR ANCESSTORS WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR. BUT OGA YOUR ANCESSTORS HAD NOTHING WORTH EMULATING. THANK YOU

This is unbelievable coming from an African.
That your ancestors never had anything to be emulated.

femi4:
Her death has nothing to do with her character

This your caption and the overall message was poorly articulated

He said she didn't last long in marriage as if she left her marital home or got divorced!
Death while still married is not evidence of a failed marriage!

ogaontop:

He said she didn't last long in marriage as if she left her marital home or got divorced!
Death while still married is not evidence of a failed marriage!

That's even another perspective, the whole article is not different from instablog jagons

Hi

Daejumong:
She was gorgeous and had a hot body, she was the favourite of her hubby yet she didn’t last in marriage! It appears beauty is not enough!

Rachel was beautiful in face and body( Gen 29:17). Her physical appearance swept Jacob off his feet and he worked 14yrs to have her as wife!

She was also a hardworking lady, a shepherdess(Gen 29:9). Jacob loved her work ethics.

Rachel however had some flaws which probably because of her looks were overlooked by Jacob!

1- Stealing and Idolatry
Gen 31: 19 When Laban had gone to shear his sheep, Rachel stole her father’s household gods.

2- Lying and deceit
Gen 31:34,35
34 Now Rachel had taken the household gods and put them inside her camel’s saddle and was sitting on them. Laban searched through everything in the tent but found nothing.
35 Rachel said to her father, “Don’t be angry, my lord, that I cannot stand up in your presence; I’m having my period.” So he searched but could not find the household gods.

3- Jealousy
Gen 30:1 When Rachel saw that she was not bearing Jacob any children, she became jealous of her sister.

4- Unhealthy Competition with her Sister
Gen 30:7 Rachel’s servant Bilhah conceived again and bore Jacob a second son.
8 Then Rachel said, “I have had a great struggle with my sister, and I have won.” So she named him Naphtali.

5- Mental health struggles/Desperation
Gen 30:1. So she said to Jacob, “Give me children, or I’ll die!”

Rachel was an uncommon beauty but had her flaws just like all of us. She sadly died after the birth of her second son Benjamin! She sadly did not live long enough to enjoy her marriage! It was devastating for Jacob as well!

Jacob unknowingly cursed Rachel to death when Laban pursued and asked about his stolen gods
Gen 31:31,32
31 Jacob answered Laban, “I was afraid, because I thought you would take your daughters away from me by force. 32 But if you find anyone who has your gods, that person shall not live. ……Now Jacob did not know that Rachel had stolen the gods.

Leah who was not favoured initially eventually became the number one and gave Jacob six sons and a daughter!

Prov 31:30
Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

I was thinking you would use Vashti, deposed queen of king Ahasuerus, whom Esther later replaced.

Daejumong:
She was gorgeous and had a hot body, she was the favourite of her hubby yet she didn’t last in marriage! It appears beauty is not enough!

stagger:


Debatable. Jesus came from Judah's lineage.

What is debatable here? Was Joseph not the greatest of Jacob's 12 sons? Leave their lineage out of it

Total bullshit.

So there's no one good thing to learn about Rachel?

Is she the progenitor of all these?

Rachel this, Rachel that, but you didn't talk about the fraud of a Laban she's got as a father who defrauded Jacob.

Currytoto:
Nawaooo,so even the biblical women had imperfections and commas

Yes, they were real flesh and blood too and not fairy tales characters someone might brand as flawless in some other quarters.

MaxInDHouse:
Her problem came through her father!

Rachel was Jacob's choice but Laban didn't want her to get married before her elder sister which is not necessary Leah started sleeping with her husband from the day they got married that's why she had many sons before seven years when Laban later gave Rachel to the same man.

The mistake Rachel made was nursing the idea that Leah stole her man because she's the one Jacob love not Leah had it been she refused to marry him after having her sister she wouldn't have been through all those troubles.

Later God told the Israelite men not to repeat what Jacob did to the two daughters of Laban:

“‘You must not take a woman in addition to her sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while her sister is alive" Leviticus 18:18

She shouldn't have agreed to marry her sister's husband since Jacob has been sleeping with Leah!

That’s a nice find.
Back then they always intermarried as the earth was not yet populated. Abraham married his cousin. Lot’s daughters slept with their dad. So those sister had a reference.
Those are what we know but it was rampant
Thank God for Gods Grace. I don sleep with sisters before albeit not married to either .

MaxInDHouse:
Her problem came through her father!

Rachel was Jacob's choice but Laban didn't want her to get married before her elder sister which is not necessary Leah started sleeping with her husband from the day they got married that's why she had many sons before seven years when Laban later gave Rachel to the same man.

The mistake Rachel made was nursing the idea that Leah stole her man because she's the one Jacob love not Leah had it been she refused to marry him after having her sister she wouldn't have been through all those troubles.

Later God told the Israelite men not to repeat what Jacob did to the two daughters of Laban:

“‘You must not take a woman in addition to her sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while her sister is alive" Leviticus 18:18

She shouldn't have agreed to marry her sister's husband since Jacob has been sleeping with Leah!

Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

Daejumong:
She was gorgeous and had a hot body, she was the favourite of her hubby yet she didn’t last in marriage! It appears beauty is not enough!

Rachel was beautiful in face and body( Gen 29:17). Her physical appearance swept Jacob off his feet and he worked 14yrs to have her as wife!

She was also a hardworking lady, a shepherdess(Gen 29:9). Jacob loved her work ethics.

Rachel however had some flaws which probably because of her looks were overlooked by Jacob!

1- Stealing and Idolatry
Gen 31: 19 When Laban had gone to shear his sheep, Rachel stole her father’s household gods.

2- Lying and deceit
Gen 31:34,35
34 Now Rachel had taken the household gods and put them inside her camel’s saddle and was sitting on them. Laban searched through everything in the tent but found nothing.
35 Rachel said to her father, “Don’t be angry, my lord, that I cannot stand up in your presence; I’m having my period.” So he searched but could not find the household gods.

3- Jealousy
Gen 30:1 When Rachel saw that she was not bearing Jacob any children, she became jealous of her sister.

4- Unhealthy Competition with her Sister
Gen 30:7 Rachel’s servant Bilhah conceived again and bore Jacob a second son.
8 Then Rachel said, “I have had a great struggle with my sister, and I have won.” So she named him Naphtali.

5- Mental health struggles/Desperation
Gen 30:1. So she said to Jacob, “Give me children, or I’ll die!”

Rachel was an uncommon beauty but had her flaws just like all of us. She sadly died after the birth of her second son Benjamin! She sadly did not live long enough to enjoy her marriage! It was devastating for Jacob as well!

Jacob unknowingly cursed Rachel to death when Laban pursued and asked about his stolen gods
Gen 31:31,32
31 Jacob answered Laban, “I was afraid, because I thought you would take your daughters away from me by force. 32 But if you find anyone who has your gods, that person shall not live. ……Now Jacob did not know that Rachel had stolen the gods.

Leah who was not favoured initially eventually became the number one and gave Jacob six sons and a daughter!

Prov 31:30
Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

quite revealing

Iamblessed85:


Kindly explain more when you say one has to be foolish?

the goat and the sheep mentality.
It simply means you have to tolerate, act foolish as if you don't see or hear like the sheep . Just obey, accept and follow .
Some people term it wisdom while some call it foolishness..

MaxInDHouse:
Her problem came through her father!

Rachel was Jacob's choice but Laban didn't want her to get married before her elder sister which is not necessary Leah started sleeping with her husband from the day they got married that's why she had many sons before seven years when Laban later gave Rachel to the same man.

The mistake Rachel made was nursing the idea that Leah stole her man because she's the one Jacob love not Leah had it been she refused to marry him after having her sister she wouldn't have been through all those troubles.

Later God told the Israelite men not to repeat what Jacob did to the two daughters of Laban:

“‘You must not take a woman in addition to her sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while her sister is alive" Leviticus 18:18

She shouldn't have agreed to marry her sister's husband since Jacob has been sleeping with Leah!

Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

She birthed Joseph though

Character...zero, methinks.

She's biting the fingers that finger her.

I don't get it. Hot body?

Did the Bible mention hot body?

SlavaUkraini:
She is still the Mother of Joseph...

The Greatest of the 12 Sons...

She gave birth to Quality and not Quality.

So Allow Rachel to "Breathe", forget her Flaws.

Quantity

Daejumong:
She was gorgeous and had a hot body, she was the favourite of her hubby yet she didn’t last in marriage! It appears beauty is not enough!

Rachel was beautiful in face and body( Gen 29:17). Her physical appearance swept Jacob off his feet and he worked 14yrs to have her as wife!

She was also a hardworking lady, a shepherdess(Gen 29:9). Jacob loved her work ethics.

Rachel however had some flaws which probably because of her looks were overlooked by Jacob!

1- Stealing and Idolatry
Gen 31: 19 When Laban had gone to shear his sheep, Rachel stole her father’s household gods.

2- Lying and deceit
Gen 31:34,35
34 Now Rachel had taken the household gods and put them inside her camel’s saddle and was sitting on them. Laban searched through everything in the tent but found nothing.
35 Rachel said to her father, “Don’t be angry, my lord, that I cannot stand up in your presence; I’m having my period.” So he searched but could not find the household gods.

3- Jealousy
Gen 30:1 When Rachel saw that she was not bearing Jacob any children, she became jealous of her sister.

4- Unhealthy Competition with her Sister
Gen 30:7 Rachel’s servant Bilhah conceived again and bore Jacob a second son.
8 Then Rachel said, “I have had a great struggle with my sister, and I have won.” So she named him Naphtali.

5- Mental health struggles/Desperation
Gen 30:1. So she said to Jacob, “Give me children, or I’ll die!”

Rachel was an uncommon beauty but had her flaws just like all of us. She sadly died after the birth of her second son Benjamin! She sadly did not live long enough to enjoy her marriage! It was devastating for Jacob as well!

Jacob unknowingly cursed Rachel to death when Laban pursued and asked about his stolen gods
Gen 31:31,32
31 Jacob answered Laban, “I was afraid, because I thought you would take your daughters away from me by force. 32 But if you find anyone who has your gods, that person shall not live. ……Now Jacob did not know that Rachel had stolen the gods.

Leah who was not favoured initially eventually became the number one and gave Jacob six sons and a daughter!

Prov 31:30
Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

All your accusations on Rachael were all wrong

Story book example. Mscheew.

Faults finders allow Rachel soul to breath...every humans including you has flaws.

Beauty has nothing to do with a lasting marriage.

Money also has nothing to do with a lasting marriage.

Good character is what counts.

E be like say dem use marriage swear for Una. Marriage this marriage that. Wetin happen gaan gaan

femi4:
And without Joseph, Judah et al would have probably died of hunger in the 7 years of famine

Without God, they all (including Pharoah) would have died of hunger.



Joseph was the greatest among his brothers, but Judah has the most enduring legacy. Notable names like David, Solomon and Jesus Christ were sons of Judah.

fredoooooo:

the goat and the sheep mentality.
It simply means you have to tolerate, act foolish as if you don't see or hear like the sheep . Just obey, accept and follow .
Some people term it wisdom while some call it foolishness..

You are a wise person. But to be honest with you, it’s easier said than done, especially when the person is not actually foolish. There is limit to one’s patience and what one can endure. Most times, long suffering must be involved. A very thin line between being foolish while still staying wise.
As a word of caution, it is best to do all these for you and the not world or any outside influence.