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Adedward(m): 9:35am On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:
There's also a possibility that adedward has been to the site to take his tools while we were on Christmas break.
Because ADEDWARD told me he has been handling other projects aside my own project.

Please ask adedward which tools he has been using to execute other projects.
are u playing here, u must be playing, anyway I will not answer u again,
kebliss(m): 9:59am On Jul 09, 2024
There's this call I have received about three times now.
The caller identified as a client saying someone gave him my number that I can handle his construction project.
He later deflected the conversation into procuring cement and aggregate, that if I have dealers I should make so the materials can be delivered to the supposed construction site, that payment will be made on delivery.

Is this a new way of scamming, robbing, and kidnapping such dealers?
Adedward(m): 10:36am On Jul 09, 2024
kebliss:
There's this call I have received about three times now.
The caller identified as a client saying someone gave him my number that I can handle his construction project.
He later deflected the conversation into procuring cement and aggregate, that if I have dealers I should make so the materials can be delivered to the supposed construction site, that payment will be made on delivery.

Is this a new way of scamming, robbing, and kidnapping such dealers?
pls be wise ooo, they want to scarm u ni oo

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twinskenny(m): 10:37am On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:
There's also a possibility that adedward has been to the site to take his tools while we were on Christmas break.
Because ADEDWARD told me he has been handling other projects aside my own project.

Please ask adedward which tools he has been using to execute other projects.

The estate suppose to have record of who goes in and. Out …. Ade this is an issue you can sort with your client on site! Both of you should meet and sit down and take stock…

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Rany4all(m): 10:57am On Jul 09, 2024
Adedward:
on that very day during festival period, I asked him of my own tools safety, he said we should keep it to one of his bricklayer room there that he was safe, and securities is full there, if I insist i know what he will be thinking, but I accept with him,
Despite the fact, you still have to take some responsibility. Final decision on keeping your tools there always rested on your shoulders. Knowing what had already occured 3 times before, and still decided to keep the tools there, means you are partly at fault Sir.

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VanuatuWycombe: 10:59am On Jul 09, 2024
Lakuje4power:


Still waiting for answers, please
From N1.5m per tonne, upward, depending on the location you are buying it.
Adedward(m): 11:01am On Jul 09, 2024
twinskenny:


The estate suppose to have record of who goes in and. Out …. Ade this is an issue you can sort with your client on site! Both of you should meet and sit down and take stock…
it's left to him, am sure if am doing this in my workshop, and things happened like this, he will now be dragging me to bring his work or return money, but in ur premises where u give order to keep, and things happened like this, u have to cool down, and work things out, is not that u will be asking me to swear with Ogun, I don't have chance for that, get things done and call me,
Rany4all(m): 11:02am On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:


I have accepted my loss on materials, he should do the same for his tool.
That's business bro .

You don't get it. We have offered to rent tools pending when we are able to raise funds. He just doesn't want to carry on
You guaranteed security for his tools Sir, so you're partly at fault.
Adedward(m): 11:06am On Jul 09, 2024
Rany4all:
Despite the fact, you still have to take some responsibility. Final decision on keeping your tools there always rested on your shoulders. Knowing what had already occured 3 times before, and still decided to keep the tools there, means you are partly at fault Sir.
sir, I am not agreed with u, if I said I want to carry my tools down to mainland by force den, he will be thinking that I don't want to come on time, I obey his team that said we should keep it there, we are talking about almost 1m tools,
Rany4all(m): 11:06am On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:
There's also a possibility that adedward has been to the site to take his tools while we were on Christmas break.
Because ADEDWARD told me he has been handling other projects aside my own project.

Please ask adedward which tools he has been using to execute other projects.
Only if you can prove it Sir...

Would the estate security allow him to carry a generator and an aluminum cutting machine out of the estate without permission?

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Adedward(m): 11:09am On Jul 09, 2024
Rany4all:
Only if you can prove it Sir...

Would the estate security allow him to carry a generator and an aluminum cutting machine out of the estate without permission?
GOD bless u for the question, let him answer that,
Rany4all(m): 11:12am On Jul 09, 2024
Adedward:
sir, I am not agreed with u, if I said I want to carry my tools down to mainland but force den, he will be thinking that I don't want to come on time, I obey his team that said we should keep it there, we talking about almost 1m tools,
You only presumed he would think that way Sir. If you had insisted on going with your tools, citing apparent lack of security at the site as your reason, and he still insisted you kept them, then I believe that would have absolved you of all responsibility for the missing tools.

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raymondFirstborn(m): 11:13am On Jul 09, 2024
Rany4all:
Only if you can prove it Sir...

Would the estate security allow him to carry a generator and an aluminum cutting machine out of the estate without permission?
if he bribes his way through. It's possible.but very small items. As small as machines.
raymondFirstborn(m): 11:15am On Jul 09, 2024
You guys have not asked adedward which tools he has been working with. After he left my project.

raymondFirstborn(m): 11:26am On Jul 09, 2024
If ADEDWARD had accepted to work with borrowed tools like i told him debts would have been paid in installments.
But he is hiding something .

Why doesn't he want to work with rented tools. Because he doesn't have money to continue, meanwhile he connected money weeks before the issue.
Another issue is the inventory which he inflated, because my team took inventory before the theft.

Well my loss. Good luck with him finding prospective clients.
Rany4all(m): 11:47am On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:
if he bribes his way through. It's possible.but very small items. As small as machines.
These are just allegations Sir. If you can prove it, please go ahead. Even if it's "I my neighbor" generator, wouldn't the estate security notice it?

By the way, he can also allege that you or your staff took away the tools as well.

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Blessedsunny2(m): 11:48am On Jul 09, 2024
Still your blessed Sunny global investment home of building materials and also blessed sam building materials enterprises

raymondFirstborn(m): 11:57am On Jul 09, 2024
Rany4all:
These are just allegations Sir. If you can prove it, please go ahead. Even if it's "I my neighbor" generator, wouldn't the estate security notice it?

By the way, he can also allege that you or your staff took away the tools as well.

The question is, if this happened to you guys, would u buy back both materials and tools.

I really hope everyone ing him, experiences this same situation. That's the only way humans understand.
Rany4all(m): 11:58am On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:
You guys have not asked adedward which tools he has been working with. After he left my project.
This may not be so relevant Sir. He may have spare tools to continue with the job, but the fact is that he lost expensive tools on your site and his desire to have them replaced is totally valid. He may also feel if he completes your job either with rented tools or his spare tools, that his missing tools will not be replaced, hence holding back on materials not yet delivered.

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Riosystem: 11:59am On Jul 09, 2024
kebliss:
There's this call I have received about three times now.
The caller identified as a client saying someone gave him my number that I can handle his construction project.
He later deflected the conversation into procuring cement and aggregate, that if I have dealers I should make so the materials can be delivered to the supposed construction site, that payment will be made on delivery.

Is this a new way of scamming, robbing, and kidnapping such dealers?

Please Don't there are scammers and Kidnappers here. I hope you heard about the Ladipo story of how kidnappers have been kidnapping business men in Ladipo market.

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Olumighty123(m): 12:06pm On Jul 09, 2024
Adedward:
on that very day during festival period, I asked him of my own tools safety, he said we should keep it to one of his bricklayer room there that he was safe, and securities is full there, if I insist i know what he will be thinking, but I accept with him,

Sir, permit me to say this, as an handy man, the safety of your tools is in your own hand and not the client.. you can do better sir. In the mean time, I feel you should go ahead and fix the glasses to the already fabricated windows pending when he raises money for the stolen materials.. make una gather mind together and resolve this amicably. Thank you 🤝

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Deeegbee: 12:26pm On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:
The issue now is Adedward doesn't need the missing materials to continue the work. What he needs to continue is the glass for the windows, so he can at least install the he has coulpled.Which he said he won't bring until I buy his tools back. Meanwhile we are trying to raise funds for the missing materials.

Meanwhile we are offering to rent tools for him to complete the job. He has refused.


Why should you say you will rent tools for him? You are after him completing your job and not showing remorse or plan on replacing his missing tools, knowing fully well you advised him to keep his tools on your site against his wish.

How do you expect an artisan to feed himself and his family without a WORKING TOOL? Have you showed any concern on how he has been surviving since his tools got missing from your site? How do you expect him to execute jobs given to him from other Clients?

I read one of your posts where you claimed his generator was at the end of its Lifespan, is that what a reasonable person should argue on?

What if he has no access to source for another working tool?

Please, let us show empathy!!!

Fix or replace his tools and then come back to Nairaland to report him if he doesn't complete the job given to him.

You just don't come here and label innocent people as scammers!!!

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Rany4all(m): 12:29pm On Jul 09, 2024
raymondFirstborn:


The question is, if this happened to you guys, would u buy back both materials and tools.

I really hope everyone ing him, experiences this same situation. That's the only way humans understand.
Yes I would take part or full responsibility if I guaranteed security for his tools.

If an artisan keeps his tools at my site without my knowledge or without me guaranteeing security, especially knowing that materials have gone missing from same site on several occasions in the past, then that artisan is on his own.

I have personally taken artisans' tools home just to keep them safe, but that's only when such tools were handed over to me or I guaranteed security for them.

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Deeegbee: 12:31pm On Jul 09, 2024
dangoteinlaw:
does this mean that you only want him to finish your work but you are not concerned about his missing tools?

Exactly what I told him in my earlier comment.

He is after him completing the job and not showing concern on the missing tools.
raymondFirstborn(m): 12:34pm On Jul 09, 2024
Deeegbee:



Why should you say you will rent tools for him? You are after him completing your job and not showing remorse or plan on replacing his missing tools, knowing fully well you advised him to keep his tools on your site against his wish.

How do you expect an artisan to feed himself and his family without a WORKING TOOL? Have you showed any concern on how he has been surviving since his tools got missing from your site? How do you expect him to execute jobs given to him from other Clients?

I read one of your posts where you claimed his generator was at the end of its Lifespan, is that what a reasonable person should argue on?

What if he has no access to source for another working tool?

Please, let us show empathy!!!

Fix or replace his tools and then come back to Nairaland to report him if he doesn't complete the job given to him.

You just don't come here and label innocent people as scammers!!!


The tools he is talking about 600k would cover
You guys don't understand. My balance of N1m+ is with him. Meanwhile I offered to rent his tools , while we replace the materials in installment. You don't think he would get to eat from the installments. When we replace the materials, you don't think he would make money from installments of 500k.

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Deeegbee: 12:35pm On Jul 09, 2024
Olumighty123:


Sir, permit me to say this, as an handy man, the safety of your tools is in your own hand and not the client.. you can do better sir. In the mean time, I feel you should go ahead and fix the glasses to the already fabricated windows pending when he raises money for the stolen materials.. make una gather mind together and resolve this amicably. Thank you 🤝

The Client compelled him to keep the tools on his Site against the handy man's wish!!

They say he who pays the piper dictates the tune.
raymondFirstborn(m): 12:36pm On Jul 09, 2024
Rany4all:
Yes I would take part or full responsibility if I guaranteed security for his tools.

If an artisan keeps his tools at my site without my knowledge or without me guaranteeing security, especially knowing that materials have gone missing from same site on several occasions in the past, then that artisan is on his own.

I have personally taken artisans' tools home just to keep them safe, but that's only when such tools were handed over to me or I guaranteed security for them.

Offer him a project if you do trust his comments.
raymondFirstborn(m): 12:37pm On Jul 09, 2024
Deeegbee:


The Client compelled him to keep the tools on his Site against the handy man's wish!!

They say he who pays the piper dictates the tune.

I didn't compel him, To keep his tools . We closed December, gave him funds. He decided on his own to leave his tools for the holiday. He had a choice.

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raymondFirstborn(m): 12:39pm On Jul 09, 2024
Deeegbee:


The Client compelled him to keep the tools on his Site against the handy man's wish!!

They say he who pays the piper dictates the tune.

I didn't insist he leave his tools behind for Christmas. He only asked if the estate was secured and I said it was. He had a choice to take his tools.
floshady02: 12:49pm On Jul 09, 2024
@raymondFirstborn you guys are just bringing yourselves down on this thread. What potential client would read all these allegations and still want to patronize y’all. Na wa ooo
raymondFirstborn(m): 1:00pm On Jul 09, 2024
floshady02:
@raymondFirstborn you guys are just bringing yourselves down on this thread. What potential client would read all these allegations and still want to patronize y’all. Na wa ooo

I want People to see how I have offered him different options. From leasing of equipment, to installmental payment. I even promised him he would recoup from other stages of my projects. The man has not made any move to move forward.

everyone here is pointing the accusing finger at me the client.

ADEDWARD future clients are also seeing this .
After giving him N7,000,000. Someone else has to tidy up the job. I paid him for, because he has decided to inflate the cost of materials missing. Bye lipsrsealed

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