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hslbroker2(m): 6:25pm On Apr 04, 2023
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rotecch77(m): 6:39pm On Apr 04, 2023
Finishing of this our project is going as scheduled.
A big thanks to the client and our others clients

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erico2k2(m): 7:26pm On Apr 04, 2023
gabbytabby:


I always request 3 quotes for comparison except if he is my usual trusted and tested contractor.
ok for example sake what will you request 3 Artisan in person to your site in to get a quote trying to understand you here.
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dangoteinlaw: 7:55pm On Apr 04, 2023
erico2k2:

ok for example sake what will you request 3 Artisan in person to your site in to get a quote trying to understand you here.
That is what they call wisdom in their book, wasting people’s time in the name of “getting a quote”. That’s how one fool made me mobilize a POP guy to his site at the end he didn’t get the job. What pained me was the pop guy left his tape rule at home and i had mine but i urge the pop guy to be a professional by getting his own tape and he spent 3k at that spot to buy a tape all because he relied on my word that the guy in question will surely award him the job. Honestly I wasn’t worried about myself becoz I knew the pop guy has been home for months because job traffic was slow. Inside my car his wife was even calling and praying for him that he will get the job and it all turned out he was just a pawn to one fool who thought he needed to “get a quote”. That is why illiteracy scares the shit out of me because for this life if you happen to be at the bottom of the food chain u go too suffer oh, your life will be used as a game of chess and you might be sacrificed as a pawn to save a knight.

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segcymoor(m): 8:42pm On Apr 04, 2023
dangoteinlaw:
That is what they call wisdom in their book, wasting people’s time in the name of “getting a quote”. That’s how one fool made me mobilize a POP guy to his site at the end he didn’t get the job. What pained me was the pop guy left his tape rule at home and i had mine but i urge the pop guy to be a professional by getting his own tape and he spent 3k at that spot to buy a tape all because he relied on my word that the guy in question will surely award him the job. Honestly I wasn’t worried about myself becoz I knew the pop guy has been home for months because job traffic was slow. Inside my car his wife was even calling and praying for him that he will get the job and it all turned out he was just a pawn to one fool who thought he needed to “get a quote”. That is why illiteracy scares the shit out of me because for this life if you happen to be at the bottom of the food chain u go too suffer oh, your life will be used as a game of chess and you might be sacrificed as a pawn to save a knight.

Easy bro...take heart!

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dangoteinlaw: 9:23pm On Apr 04, 2023
segcymoor:


Easy bro...take heart!
No I wasn’t pained it was my pop boy I really felt for, they don’t work from home unless they go to site they can’t earn. I rarely take contracts coz I don’t have time for those dragging of bag of cement bills we are into better things.
The pop guy kept calling and asking if I haven’t received a response from the client but I didn’t know how to tell him that all the efforts in talking measurements of over 6flats including a mosque was all a waste of time so I just sent him small tin and told him to be patient.
Olumighty123(m): 9:31pm On Apr 04, 2023
dangoteinlaw:
No I wasn’t pained it was my pop boy I really felt for, they don’t work from home unless they go to site they can’t earn. I rarely take contracts coz I don’t have time for those dragging of bag of cement bills we are into better things.
The pop guy kept calling and asking if I haven’t received a response from the client but I didn’t know how to tell him that all the efforts in talking measurements of over 6flats including a mosque was all a waste of time so I just sent him small tin and told him to be patient.

Sorry go ask, have you been to the said site to be sure if the client had executed the project? Delay isn't always denial nah, relax. Plus no be every job go enter person hand, regardless of one's effort undecided

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Olumighty123(m): 9:31pm On Apr 04, 2023
dangoteinlaw:
No I wasn’t pained it was my pop boy I really felt for, they don’t work from home unless they go to site they can’t earn. I rarely take contracts coz I don’t have time for those dragging of bag of cement bills we are into better things.
The pop guy kept calling and asking if I haven’t received a response from the client but I didn’t know how to tell him that all the efforts in talking measurements of over 6flats including a mosque was all a waste of time so I just sent him small tin and told him to be patient.

Sorry to ask, have you been to the said site to be sure if the client had executed the project? Delay isn't always denial nah, relax. Plus no be every job go enter person hand, regardless of one's effort undecided
dangoteinlaw: 9:48pm On Apr 04, 2023
Olumighty123:


Sorry to ask, have you been to the said site to be sure if the client had executed the project? Delay isn't always denial nah, relax. Plus no be every job go enter person hand, regardless of one's effort undecided
after my boy called up to 3X i asked him to go spy on the site he sent me pics of more materials brought to the site. I asked the guy who connected me and he confirmed that work was going on already. I just hung up and forgot about it.
topsy23(m): 10:24pm On Apr 04, 2023
rotecch77:
Finishing of this our project is going as scheduled.
A big thanks to the client and our others clients

Big boss
temizeee(m): 11:18pm On Apr 04, 2023
Hello my people good day,
Please i need your suggestions concerning a project, it’s a 3 bedroom house and we are at the stage of installing plumbing work finishing stage (Wc, pipes to soakaway, shower etc ) but the artistan in charge of digging soakway pit for bathroom drainage and kitchen drainage said we should do fence first because of filling so as to know the level to dig the pits for the drainage…. I don’t know which should come first, is it the fence or we should proceed and dig the drainage and install the pipes and other plumbing works
Thanks in anticipation house I appreciate…..
Kentucky404: 12:44am On Apr 05, 2023
sonnie10:


When did stating what transpired with facts and figures become arrogance?
I don believe you would have had any issues if I said I managed the #4000 standard roof sheet on my project. That would be me, being humble.

Your last paragraph ended up ing my initial stance. That I am doing the vendor favor.. what difference does it make when you say it and when I say it?

I am not the mouthpiece of the vendor/s to say how they feel about the job they are doing.
Just in case you did not hear me right that first time,, let say it again. Any business that I patronize, I am doing them a favor.

And you are wrong. No standard company would refund a client payment for saying that he did them a favor.
Most if no all cooperate entities have customers compliant and appreciations portals/ box. They want to hear what their customers have to say, whether good or bad.
It seems you are separated reality, almost all cooperate business would a customer as against their own staff when it comes to service delivery. Even if the customer tends to wrong, as long as he is not destructive.

Talking about court. I challenge you to show me one statement that I have made regarding this issue that has any legal implications , whether they are true or false.

Mediocre fellow.
You were not stating facts with figures, it is part of your lifestyle, you were obviously bluffing, you wanted to let the vendor know, how he just lost a contract of #8M just because he requested for #25K Transportation fee, and how someone else from warri got the job.
it was on this same thread you were bragging about how you own very expensive things.
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2796#110424899

You definitely lack knowledge and you are not ready to take correction.

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Born2conquer: 1:29am On Apr 05, 2023
money121:

Don't mind them if you can't pay for tfare just hold your job i don't av strength to argue look for someone around to handle your roofing.
I can recall a client ed for roofing measurement at calabar i charged him 35k for tfare if you patronize me the money will be refund back.. he agreed..
My installer visited d site take the measurement we summit quote.. he agreed to patronize me
He send his rep. And brother to lagos both of them divert the job and purchase the materials elsewhere
Who loose 35k? Him

We moove

Even within lagos you will send tfare before we can visit ur site for measurement
Reason why i don't believe on field marketing
If you didn't believe on trust want you read about my company online
Abeg hold your job
This life No hard
Na my ogas dey exchange words, make I delete wetin I type before
sonnie10: 5:20am On Apr 05, 2023
Kentucky404:


Mediocre fellow.
You were not stating facts with figures, it is part of your lifestyle, you were obviously bluffing, you wanted to let the vendor know, how he just lost a contract of #8M just because he requested for #25K Transportation fee, and how someone else from warri got the job.
it was on this same thread you were bragging about how you own very expensive things.
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2796#110424899

You definitely lack knowledge and you are not ready to take correction.

I am very sure if I come here and tell you that I am hungry and drinking garri you won’t have problem with that. People like you would secretly find delight in that misery.
My advice for you. If you continue to keep track of everything you read on social media and take them to heart, your blood pressure might might not like it.
Finally, if I may ask, don’t you have people around you to correct? Instead of wasting your effort on a random stranger on a faceless forum.
Remove the log from your eyes first before looking for the needle in someone else’s. I don’t have time to refer back to the unspeakable words you have used against people that are old enough to be your parents, here.
You lack the moral high ground to correct anyone. Not you.
Anyone who cares to know should read his previous posts.

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money121(m): 5:30am On Apr 05, 2023
Born2conquer:

Na my ogas dey exchange words, make I delete wetin I type before
Wetin you type before grin grin
sonnie10: 5:39am On Apr 05, 2023
Kentucky404:


Just Like his brother @N3xt B.Snr. Sonnie is the Braggart.Jnr
Peppering or pure stupidity!!?
What's most disgusting is that you get to know, they don't even have some of those things they claim to have acquired.
Incase you don't know, they're Billionaires on this site who make just make a simple comment & some would rather read silently.

Well an empty vessel always make the loudest noise.
cool
This guy carry me for mind since how many years ago. What else is witchcraft?

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bolu1986(m): 6:17am On Apr 05, 2023
Good morning

Let’s screed this house..

Location lagos

Talk to us for your pop & wall screeding.

Born2conquer: 7:20am On Apr 05, 2023
money121:

Wetin you type before grin grin
E long o, something like clients should endeavor to pay artisan some token if they would coming from a long distance to check up a project...

And some other things sha, I con read am for midnight again na so I delete am.

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rotecch77(m): 7:30am On Apr 05, 2023
topsy23:


Big boss

Boss of the Bosses, I greet you sir
dangoteinlaw: 7:55am On Apr 05, 2023
sonnie10:

This guy carry me for mind since how many years ago. What else is witchcraft?
so now that you have been exposed wouldn’t you think of a better lie to cover your shame furthermore. How can you afford transport fee for an artisan when you can bare feed lol.

How about you convert the powerbike to a despatch all you ve got to do is paint the helmet black or grey.
Amosaloud(m): 8:06am On Apr 05, 2023
It's a shame that the main protagonists have since made their peace. It is now bystanders who want to continue to drag what just constitutes a difference of opinion. It is not that deep abeg. Each artisan should follow what works best for them. Clients will also protect their own interests. It is like that all over the world moreso in areas where there is no uniform code of conduct.

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GloriousGbola: 8:09am On Apr 05, 2023
Google tender processing fee for starters.

Some govt organisations charge you to submit tender bids.

My old place was formerly a govt organisation, which may have been why every tender bid came with a non refundable fee of 100k. They eventually stopped this, but you get the idea.

More importantly being invited to tender for a project requires you expend energy and time in conducting review of the documents provided, getting rates for items, calculating your profit margins. You may have to print and bind documents. And send them by dispatch to the client. This is also a cost. And you may not win the bid. So if you receive an invitation to tender for a project will you ask the client to pay you for filling the boq or preparing the estimate?

It is an inevitable cost of doing business.

One time I called an electrician to come to our site. The guy was referred to me. He immediately told me he would need 5k for transport to the site . I thanked him, hung up and never bothered calling him back. That demand was (for me) a sign of a difficult contractor. A nickel and dimer. The person who referred the guy to me was also suprised at the demands.

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sonnie10: 8:11am On Apr 05, 2023
dangoteinlaw:
so now that you have been exposed wouldn’t you think of a better lie to cover your shame furthermore. How can you afford transport fee for an artisan when you can bare feed lol.

How about you convert the powerbike to a despatch all you ve got to do is paint the helmet black or grey.
How I wished my only problem was feeding.
What do you mean exposed. In what sense?

Enjoy your eyes below!

FEGEITOK: 8:48am On Apr 05, 2023
GloriousGbola:
Google tender processing fee for starters.

Some govt organisations charge you to submit tender bids.

My old place was formerly a govt organisation, which may have been why every tender bid came with a non refundable fee of 100k. They eventually stopped this, but you get the idea.

More importantly being invited to tender for a project requires you expend energy and time in conducting review of the documents provided, getting rates for items, calculating your profit margins. You may have to print and bind documents. And send them by dispatch to the client. This is also a cost. And you may not win the bid. So if you receive an invitation to tender for a project will you ask the client to pay you for filling the boq or preparing the estimate?

It is an inevitable cost of doing business.

One time I called an electrician to come to our site. The guy was referred to me. He immediately told me he would need 5k for transport to the site . I thanked him, hung up and never bothered calling him back. That demand was (for me) a sign of a difficult contractor. A nickel and dimer. The person who referred the guy to me was also suprised at the demands.

But if you scale through those hurdles, you are going to make 10x, 100x, 1000x, 10000x, 100000x, 1000000x times if not more any expenditure.

And those processes can take a lot of time, and the company is paying employees for the time they spend perfecting those documents even when they aren't sure of winning the bid.


Like they say nothing risked, nothing gained.

Also the greater the risk, the greater the return.

Bet big, win big.

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FEGEITOK: 8:54am On Apr 05, 2023
dangoteinlaw:
That is what they call wisdom in their book, wasting people’s time in the name of “getting a quote”. That’s how one fool made me mobilize a POP guy to his site at the end he didn’t get the job. What pained me was the pop guy left his tape rule at home and i had mine but i urge the pop guy to be a professional by getting his own tape and he spent 3k at that spot to buy a tape all because he relied on my word that the guy in question will surely award him the job. Honestly I wasn’t worried about myself becoz I knew the pop guy has been home for months because job traffic was slow. Inside my car his wife was even calling and praying for him that he will get the job and it all turned out he was just a pawn to one fool who thought he needed to “get a quote”. That is why illiteracy scares the shit out of me because for this life if you happen to be at the bottom of the food chain u go too suffer oh, your life will be used as a game of chess and you might be sacrificed as a pawn to save a knight.

First, business is not a charity.

Secondly, running business on sympathy is not the best way to go about business.

Thirdly, no one will win 100 percent of all the jobs he bids for. This is why we spread out tents very wide so that they will have a greater tendency to catch something.

Fourthly, no one owes you anything.

Now about your sob story.

I have been there. I understand the feeling. I treat my artisans well.

I even gave the last but one transport to come and work for me. I gave him several modus of rice (enough to feed his family twice a day for at least a week) when he was going in addition to paying him for his services. I also gave him one of my dress shirts I no longer felt like using. He had complained that he had no food to eat (and I happen to know that he is married) and did not have transportation. But to my chagrin this guy stole money from me. I kept some cash in a drawer and he touched that drawer and the money was gone. Can you imagine how I felt to have discovered that someone I did the above for did that to me? I know because I confronted him and he confessed after he had returned home. One more thing, this guy I allowed him to sleep over a couple of times in order to save some of the money he would have spent on transport back home and back to the site the next day.

My motto in life is that one must treat those he can gain nothing from as well as those he can gain something from. That to me is the true test of character.

The last one that came gave a quote I considered was too high. So I gave him 3 times the amount he spent on transportation to come and dismissed him.

I lent my plumber money when he was served court papers to pack out of his existing accommodation. He came back just last week to ask for more money to the tune of half a million to roof the house he is building, that one I am not willing to give though.

Some of us treat artisans this way because of the bad experiences we have had. But everyone is different and should be judged for who he or she is and not based on what others have done.

But you cannot blame us for refusing to act on sympathy all the time, it’s a dog-eat-dog world out there. And people are out to take advantage especially if they feel you are better situated than them.

They think, let me chop from him small, he get plenty. He no go feel am.
Opportunity will never be distributed equally, some people will do better in life than others.

Even Jesus said we will always have the poor with you at Matthew 26:11.

So if I can help someone, I will help someone. Like I have said above, several individuals liked me at some point in time and stepped in to help me make the money I have made, and the position I have attained, so if I can, I will be helpful because I know that everyone is fighting one challenge or the other.

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money121(m): 9:55am On Apr 05, 2023
sonnie10:

How I wished my only problem was feeding.
What do you mean exposed. In what sense?

Enjoy your eyes below!

Installation of Stone Coated Roofing + Aluminium parapet + Rain gutter collectors cool



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMfnMx8TZ2U?


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somehow: 10:07am On Apr 05, 2023
It's no crime not to give an artisan TF when coming to site to inspect for the sake of submitting an informed quote.

I don't get transportation money when going to bid for contract in my own profession.

If the client gives you, fine and good, if not, don't expect.

If the distance is an issue, ignore the job and go for closer ones.

This to me shouldn't even be an issue.

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kkonsults: 10:51am On Apr 05, 2023
us for your Architectural Designs

gabbytabby: 10:53am On Apr 05, 2023
erico2k2:

ok for example sake what will you request 3 Artisan in person to your site in to get a quote trying to understand you here.

Roofing carpentary. Once I got 120k, 150k and 550k and the 550k guy was the one who had done all the carpentary from foundation but because I had done roofing for a bigger project I knew his 550k was way out of line.

I went with the 150k ended up paying 200k cos of variation but he is now my go to construction carpenter (kansho).

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