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Gbadebo19: You quoted me. Just one response after, you are already shouting "Rest"! F**L! đ You'll FA then start waving a white flag to avoid FO. Happy holidays clown đ¤Ą! -Lord 1 Like |
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Gbadebo19: If I start with you now, you'll start begging that I shouldn't quote you. Advice your partner-in-id**cy. Maybe he will listen to you, since you two share one brain cell. Keep my sobriquet out of your st*pid It's not difficult. -Lord 4 Likes |
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Simeonjoe1: Behave yourself! Treat this as a final warning. I've repeated this so often, it's almost a slogan. I and most people are waiting for the conclusion of investigations. Keep my sobriquet out of your comments if you will opt to act like an id**t! Since you guys are treating enger testimony as gospel: BBC is reporting that a surviving enger confirmed that the Azeri flight did successfully complete its journey from Baku to Grozny. The pilots attempted to land the plane twice at the Grozny airport. But apparently they were unsuccessful because of fog. The accident occurred during their third attempt to land. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgp3qx0q7wo I and many here will not make excuses for Russia if their operators are complicit in this accident. But I will wait for the conclusion of investigations for all facts to be verified and laid bare. You can choose to type rubbish. But avoid mentioning me when you are trying out for the Stup*d Olympics! -Lord 5 Likes 1 Share |
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Simeonjoe1: I'm not sure what links you read, but they clearly showed that all engers and crews died and neither plane traveled intact for a distance equivalent to the width of the Caspian Sea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents That is the link of a compilation of airliner shootdown incidents. Look at the sheer number of accidents caused by traditional SAMS where no one survived. You don't argue about everything. The only reason why the Azeri plane was able to traverse the Caspian Sea after impact is that the Russians had been using a system optimized to take down drones. Traditional air defense SAMs are designed to take down aircraft as large as transporters and refuelers like the C-130 Hercules. The Embraer 191 would have stood no chance. -Lord |
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Gbadebo19: I know comprehension is a challenge for you, so I'll reformat my response to your falsehoods. Gbadebo19: 1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not militarized. 2. Grozny was currently under attack as at the time of the crash. 2. The Ukrainian drones were shot down over Vladikavkaz in North Ossetia and neighboring Ingushetia. Not in Grozny. 3. The plane took a significant detour which in normal circumstances doesn't happen. This points to a GPS jamming. 3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. One, the authorities in Grozny informed the pilots of fog. That's why they couldn't land in Grozny. GPS jamming does not automatically lead to detours. This is the NYT quoting an aviation journalist who states this "According to Andrei Menshenin, an aviation journalist, GPS jamming and spoofing could make piloting uncomfortable but was unlikely to have caused the crash. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/25/world/europe/kazakhstan-plane-crash.html I asked you to stop typing rubbish for a reason. You should look through your post history. You quoted me. You can get off my mention the same way you got on my mention. The door is that way. Purveyor of nonsense! -Lord 3 Likes 2 Shares |
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Gbadebo19: This is what you posted: Gbadebo19: All three points are factually untrue. That's why I call you a braindead ret**d! Now compare that to my own take on the shoot-down theory: LordAdam16: I am not allergic to facts. If an hypothesis or has merits and is plausible, I'll it it. Which is exactly why I harped about waiting for the conclusion of an investigation. The initial from the Russians and Kazakhs appeared consistent with the video of the crash. And I rely on official s because TG channels, some Western media, and even Reuters and flight trackers suggested that the plane carrying Assad was shot down in Syria and that he likely died. That turned out to be false. With the Azeris categorically saying there was SAM impact, it put the onus on the Russians specifically to offer contrarian evidence. The odds of that are miniscule and that's why I'm accepting the Azeri as pro tempore fact. I doubt you are a lawyer. If you are, I empathize with your clients. How are you incapable of properly outlining a version of events and cross-match the axioms with available facts? Anyone with a degree can do that. -Lord 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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Gbadebo19: I'll repeat it for the umpteenth time. You are a F**L! A complete id**t! If the Azeris are saying a Russian SAM hit the plane, I'll accept it. What I will not accept is you, a certified ret**d, using speculation to state easily verifiable falsehoods. You couldn't post the correct facts on where the plane crashed, where the drones were downed, or why the plane took a different route. I said we should wait for the completion of an investigation. That is still in offing. But I am willing to treat the Azeris as provisionally correct. Again, you are a F**L! If you don't want to be labeled a mor*n, don't type rubbish. Take an extra minute to facts and get your ducks in a row. -Lord 3 Likes |
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bemeruca: Please share the link to that exchange. -Lord |
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Gbadebo19: Who put a gun to your head to type that "The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia"? I will repeat this as many times as is necessary. Stop typing rubbish. If you can't get basic facts right, stay silent. 2. The Ukrainian drones were not shot down at Grozny. Where were the drones shot down? It is a very simple question. Stop typing rubbish! 3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. See, you are very MAD. The plane had to divert from its original route because of heavy fog in Grozny, its intended destination, and make an emergency landing.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/26/why-did-an-azerbaijan-airline-plane-crash-in-kazakhstan-what-we-know You think everyone is as ret**ded as you are to make factually untrue statements without credible sources. Lastly, are you so dumb to see that from the pictures released, the impact showed that the plane was attacked from the outside and NOT from the inside. You are even so dumb that you stated "inward piercing shrapnel". Doesn't that tell you that the attack came from outside and not from the inside? If it came from the engine tank rubbish you are stating, then the shrapnel should have been outward piercing and NOT inward piercing. My positions on this accident have emerged from the preliminary official correspondences from the Russian and Kazakhstan authorities. My opposition has been to the factually untrue statements you id**ts have been making. This is my comment responding to Simeon that started this exchange. LordAdam16: After meandering, you've also arrived at "we will soon see the outcome of the investigation". Meanwhile you went off the deep end because you initially had a problem with me saying we should all wait for the outcome of an investigation. F**L! -Lord 4 Likes 1 Share |
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Gbadebo19: Gbadebo19: Braindead m*ron! Compare what you wrote and what is in that screenshot. I specifically respond to your id**cy. Stop polluting this thread with your illiteracy. If you can't comprehend and make silly errors that a K-12 pupil wouldn't make, keep quiet. -Lord 8 Likes 3 Shares |
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Simeonjoe1: My initial position is that a traditional Air Defense SAM will destroy that plane and there'll be no survivors. We have several instances of that happening. Instead this plane crossed the Caspian Sea and the pilots were able to correct its gyrations, with great difficulties of course, until they were a few kilometers out from the airport. The two official statements, which might end up being wrong, are the Russians saying the accident was caused by a bird strike and the Kazakhs saying an oxygen cylinder exploded in the plane. This is a Russian pilot who landed a plane in a cornfield after a bird strike disabled both engines. https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/aug/16/russipilot-safely-lands-jetliner-disabled-bir/ And you can use Google to see pictures of planes impacted by bird strike. Of course, nothing can be ruled out, but you can see why normal people wait for investigations to be concluded. -Lord 2 Likes |
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Gbadebo19: Buffoon, this is what happens when an Air Defense SAM takes out an airliner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752 And this by the Americans - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 It destroys the airliner and kills everyone on board. Any one can speculate but the drones Russia shot down did not crash in Kazakhstan. And stop typing rubbish! All three points you just shared are a pile of horsesh*t. 1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not militarized. 2. The Ukrainian drones were shot down over Vladikavkaz in North Ossetia and neighboring Ingushetia. Not in Grozny. 3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. One, the authorities in Grozny informed the pilots of fog. That's why they couldn't land in Grozny. GPS jamming does not automatically lead to detours. This is the NYT quoting an aviation journalist who states this "According to Andrei Menshenin, an aviation journalist, GPS jamming and spoofing could make piloting uncomfortable but was unlikely to have caused the crash. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/25/world/europe/kazakhstan-plane-crash.html An investigation is underway and we'll learn what happened. While everyone is patient, you and your Siamese id**t are running around prematurely saying reports already suggest the jet was shot down. Because you both have single digit IQ, you can't even get your theory and the basic facts right. You're the special kind of cretin who would still fail an exam despite copying from a straight-A student. How hard is it to wait? Will you atrophy if you wait a few weeks for a definitive official from the Kazakh authorities? For the rest of the thread who want clarity on the crash. The shoot-down theory has its merits. 1. Russia has deployed a new class of Air Defense systems for anti-drone warfare. These systems have smaller warheads that explode in proximity to their targets. When they explode, they release shrapnel. 2. The inward-piercing holes at the rear of the jet are consistent with shrapnel impact. 3. It is speculated that the shrapnels damaged hydraulics and electricals at the rear of the jet that made controlling the jet difficult. There are lots of questions, which is why every normal person is waiting for an investigation. The jet flew for several more minutes after the accident. They couldn't return to Baku so the pilots made inquiries for any airport close by to make an emergency crash landing. They opted to cross the Caspian Sea to land at a Kazakh airport. And were about a few kilometers out when the crash occurred. The pilots are heroes. The rear of the jet is mostly intact, so there'll be definitive conclusion if indeed it was impacted by a Russian system. -Lord 2 Likes |
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Gbadebo19: Survivor's is unreliable in this situation. Bird strikes generally lead to explosions of the engine. Look it up. The Kazakh authorities confirmed early on that an oxygen tank exploded on board the plane after the bird strike. A normal person would know an oxygen tank explosion will produce shrapnel. The tank wouldn't just evaporate. The video of the crash is online for anyone with two brain cells to watch. The plane at a point went into a steep dive, but the pilots recovered. Then it stalled and then the crash happened. Air defense would take out that plane in mid air. The details of the crash from the video is consistent with the official narrative that a bird strike caused this incident. The pilots were excellent and they were almost able to get to the runway but the plane just couldn't go any further, likely due to loss of power or some other vital component not functioning properly That initial dive would have killed almost everyone on board. So the recovery saved dozens of lives. That would not have been possible if they were hit by an air defense SAM. You ret**ds should stop prematurely commenting on issues that are beyond your pay grade. -Lord 11 Likes 2 Shares |
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bemeruca: My take on this, particularly the part in bold is that you should have that stuck in a folder or note app for easy reference. Your accusation is weighty. If you're going to malign a character, have incontrovertible proof to back up your assertions. To add, it is possible to make a comment about statutory rape that might on the surface look bad but isn't. The age cut-off for statutory rape is not uniform across the West. Budaatum is in the UK. Age of consent there is 16. It's 16 in Canada as well. In New Zealand, it's 16. But anyone under 20 is legally a minor. So sexual relations with a 19 year old can be described as sex with a minor which is just bleh đ¤Ž. Heck, in the US. It's 16 in 31 states. 17 in 7, including NY. In the military, it's 16. Because they recruit 17 year-olds and you would have a statutory rape caseload higher than the Empire State if you set it at 18. In fact, while federal law in the US pegs it at 18, it doesn't supersede state statues. And in federal law, the age of consent for US nationals who engage in sexual relations outside the US is 16. I'm not going to reference mainland Europe. It's a madhouse over there. I know it's the law, but really, 14 in is like, "Guys, hold up". So you see why there might be an issue. Say the right thing in the wrong way and you've got a problem. You can't just brand a person a pedo without sharing the offending comment they made. -Lord 3 Likes 1 Share |
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Simeonjoe1: Read what you wrote and assess if you're okay upstairs. Seriously, do it. After typing crap, you end with "it's early". Why are exposing your id**cy when you know it is too early and we should wait for full investigation. Are you trying to win "Id**t of the Year" award before the year wraps up. -Lord 12 Likes 3 Shares |
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Simeonjoe1: How did Russian soldiers shoot down a plane in Kazakhstan? -Lord 8 Likes 2 Shares |
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WriteerNg: WriteerNg: Iran is showing off. -Lord 2 Likes |
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budaatum: I am under no legal obligation to entertain your innate incoherency. It is a polite request. Get your sh*t together before quoting me. You can always continue your incoherent rambling as you've done before yesterday as you'll do after today. Just keep me out of it. Is that too much to ask, your highness?! /s -Lord 1 Like |
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budaatum: Congratulations. You have your token Conservative condemnation. Why is that not enough for you? One minute, conservatives excuse statutory rape. Next minute, conservatives condemn statutory rape. Pick a lane. Or argue with yourself. IDGAF. But keep my name out of your posts. -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: That's true. But who knows how long the current leadership will remain in power if Turkey bloodies Iran's nose. Also, a capitulation is probably not on the cards. So any hot conflict will lead to a Treaty. Both sides will go regroup, then restart hostilities. Read up on the Ottoman-Persian Wars. My take on a potential conflict is that it is an academic exercise. Too much to lose: too little to gain; to make it practical. The only thing Iran can do is go on the offensive against Turkish interests in Eurasia. But they already have their hands full with Israel+US+UK. -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: Currently, Turkey has the edge because of their technological advantage. But if Iran survives the first six months, it's an open question. Gotta say, it will easily be one of the most evenly-matched wars in modern history. I too will never put my money on the Mullahs. They're capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. -Lord 2 Likes 1 Share |
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BlueRayDick: I 100% agree with you. I'm of the opinion tho' that the super-intelligent b*tches that take up sex work would most likely still do it if they were of average intelligence. Cos' when you listen to them. The money is a nice bonus. But they really enjoy sex work. They seem predisposed to going down that path. Otherwise, these women have options. Melissa. Dar. Ryan Conner. They would never starve. They wouldn't even struggle. Dar is doing her PhD in her 20s. She is a bioengineer and graduate of computer science. She has a platform like Cleo Abram who is killing it. Million-dollar income was always in her future. And these women could always Nicole Shanahan their way to millions. One weekend in San Francisco and Dar will bag a big shot or a rising star looking like that. I get that the world is an oyster for guys like Bill Ackman, Ryan Serhant, Ryan Reynolds. They could do anything. But for women like Melissa and Dar. To have limitless potential and then opt for the path with the most stigma so you could be "happy" sure is something. Fascinating characters! -Lord 2 Likes 1 Share |
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cococandy: I said it once. I'll repeat it. If there was credible evidence that Gaetz did actually commit statutory rape, he'll fade in obscurity. The threshold for the outright, knee-jerk, totally-natural revulsion to sexual relations with minors is the preponderance of evidence. The evidence here is murky. If it wasn't, Gaetz will be looking at significant time in jail and an offender listing. This is not a "he said, she said" sexual misconduct. The bar to file a statutory rape charge is low. Heck, it is against federal law to attempt to coerce a minor to engage in sexual acts through the telephone or internet. Sexual is not necessary to nail a perp. A text message will do. Unless you can somehow state with a straight face that Garland saw a slam-dunk opportunity to get Gaetz into an orange jumpsuit and let him go out of the kindness of his heart, I cannot for the life of me understand why you want conservatives to condemn him for apparently committing a very serious criminal offense when he wasn't even indicted by the most motivated crack team of FBI investigators in the last century. This is not true pls. Letâs not conflate someone being canceled online with the actual justice system. Thereâs always an investigation and of course consequences based on said investigation. The thing you call âasking questionsâ is exactly what the justice system does when itâs doing the investigation. (We can talk about certain evils of the justice system at a different time) Nice try. Attempting to gaslight me about the #MeToo era. đ "Believe all women" must have been a figment of the imagination. Maybe in the past Iâd believe this. Not in todayâs climate though. Anything goes in the MAGA world it seems. And thatâs why people of those proclivities tend to your camps. Something tells them theyâll get away with it over there. I'll readily it MAGA has its fair share of "colorful" characters. But there's a very visible line. Statutory rape crosses that line with more than enough room to spare. -Lord |
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BlueRayDick: She can always get more PhD's when her SMV drops off a cliff. Her mentor will be Melissa Todd. Mensa member. 178 IQ. Oxford drop out. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/sex-worker-iq-higher-einstein-33517334 -Lord |
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liveLongNprospa: Now that's a Christmas present. Big congratulations man! -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: Na una wen dey take the Turks serious. Turkey na lamba central. After conducting mischief, they start meandering to justify their actions. -Lord 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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cococandy: Look who typed out a "long tale". đ Well, here's mine. đ The Gaetz story is icky. Mucking about in the brackish waters of statutory rape is not my idea of a grand time. However, it is fair to ask: "Why did the FBI/DOJ investigate this potential serious crime and opt not to press charges"? Garland charged a POTUS for mishandling classified documents. He charged a Senator for bribery. Why did he exercise uncharacteristic prosecutorial discretion for Gaetz? I doubt you are willing to suss out the answer to that question. The Gaetz situation is #metoo-esque. Your side famously does not care about getting into the weeds. An accusation is enough. That's all you need. It does not have to be valid, credible, or hold up against scrutiny. Asking Questions = Rape Apologist. So why bother? Here's the depraved paradigm that your camp wants to enforce. Level a serious accusation. Get up in arms. Anyone who so much as raise their hands or gives the impression that they're not 100% ive of the lynching gets clobbered as an enabler, apologist, or cultist. MAGA and the broader conservative camp have iced out personalities before. If there was credible evidence that Gaetz did actually commit statutory rape, he'll fade in obscurity. We would know too, because this story has been in the open for more than a year, and the MAGA-verse is a small world. Diddling is a cardinal sin for the movement. It is not tolerated in any form. When MAGA turns on a person, it goes all in. Where is Milo Yiannopoulos today? Happy holidays! Warm regards to your fam. -Lord 1 Like 1 Share |
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cococandy: How many conservatives defend Catholic priests? -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: Possibly. I don't recommend it though as a long-term buy because it has more consequential headwinds. -Lord |
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WrriterNg: Look up how Al Thani, the current Emir of Qatar, came to power. The US will bribe a royal, noble, or one of the generals to seize power and kill the nuclear program. The leadership in all the Western-aligned ME countries are easy to depose. Those investments are a double-edged sword. -Lord 6 Likes 3 Shares |
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WrriterNg: That may be true, but Pakistan has a nuke. If the Saudis and Turks want to go through the baptism of fire as Iran and North Korea did to get their nukes, they should go ahead. I'll wager though that the Saud family and Erdogan will be deposed if they make that turn. Iran should not be blackmailed to not acquire the ultimate guarantor of its security. The US just itted to seeking regime change in Iran for the last 30 years. Israel certainly didn't twiddle its thumbs. The US, Israel, , and UK have tens of thousands of nukes. Heck even Turkey hosts coalition nukes. A few tens or hundreds more is not a compelling argument to dissuade Iran. -Lord 7 Likes 3 Shares |
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