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basilico:


Trump also had a policy in place as of Jan 2021 to have h1B visa get paid the same as American workers within 6 months. Of course Biden immediately reversed that. This would have ensured companies don't just fire Americans for cheaper labour.
I also notice Elon is particular about which professions to grant visas.

There will be immigrants definitely whatever people say .

Elon put his foot in his mouth. As did Vivek.

Not one soul has been deported yet, but you're already talking about expanding H1-B and railing against American culture.
Who does that?

-Lord

cococandy:
Papa is hemotional. Phew 😮‍💨

Imagine riding the back of racists to get close to the presidency and then acting surprised when they show you their racist side. So much for smartness. An ox with one eye could have seen this coming except him.

He needed the wakeup call.

MAGA booed Trump over the COVID vaccines. Musk is small chops.
He will get in line. He and Vivek failed to read the room.

Trump already publicized his plan in 2019 to reform immigration.
https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/articles/president-trumps-bold-immigration-plan-21st-century/
The plan has always been to increase legal immigration under Trump 2.0. The mass deportations are a way to buy cachet with the base.
The tech bros naively stepped on a rake.

Vance needs to pull their ears to the side and read the riot act.
It's his wing of the party and his 2028 nomination is on the line.

PS: Nicole Shanahan FTW.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1872491541811671494.html
I have my reservations on some of her takes on health/food; but she is such an asset.

-Lord

pansophist:


I'm not really versed about middle East politics, but I'm curious.

Who give Houthis their advance weapon tech, to a point where they could take down fighter jets and to create a blockade?

Iran.

A noteworthy point is that Iran runs a program where it sites production facilities in the territory of allied militias.
Easier to assemble in Yemen, Iraq, or Lebanon; than ship intact missiles.
Further to that, Yemen is a more hostile environment for espionage than Lebanon and Palestine.
In Palestine, every other person is a spy. In Lebanon, the melting pot of different groups provides an ample supply of informants.
Proximity is also a boon for the West/Israel.

Consequently, the Houthis have had favorable conditions to maintain and iterate production.
The Houthis are a different beast. They can field more than 10 times the number of fighters Hezbollah can.
They're farther away. They have stricter control over their territory.

However, of all of the militias in the Iranian Axis of Resistance.
They are the most independent. They are more similar to a traditional ally than an Iranian-backed militia.

-Lord

shoodboi2:


Just call them SAA. The name "Syrian army" is confusing at the moment since it refers to both the old Syrian Army aka SAA (Syrian Arab Army) and Al Nusra/HTS, which is forming the new Syrian Army.

An HTS terrorist at the new MoD told a Turkish publication that they plan to build a 300,000 man army within the next 18 months.
With the assistance of Turkey.
90,000 from HtS and SNA will form the elite core, think Azov or a Taliban core.

This is why I was in favor of the Isrealis destroying the heavy weapon systems.
Funding is not an issue. Qatar will bankroll the buildout.
The only complication would be armaments. Turkey relies on Western tech and they can be pulled or slowed at any time.
Probably the reason why they want to accomplish this objective on a compressed timeframe.

A 300,000 army commanded by terrorists is an existential threat to Lebanon and Iraq.
They will inevitably fund Muslim Brotherhood remnants to depose el-Sisi in Egypt and the Hashemite dynasty in Jordan.
They'll also chase out the Israelis from their newly acquired Syrian territory and possibly retake the Golan Heights.

That's why that clown is praying for the neo-SAA guys to emerge victorious.

-Lord

OkpaNsukkaisBae:


The urgency wey China🇨🇳 dey use modernize her military even the enemy go dey tremble

Blink and you'll miss a new launch.

They've always favored operating under the radar.
But since the new Biden economic offensive, the approval of strikes on Russia, and the Axis ratcheting up in the ME; Xi is literally out in the open saying "Gentlemen, shall we?!".
It also appears that there have been pressure within the Axis for Xi to pick up his end of the couch.

It should be said though that you don't design and build new capabilities in a few weeks or months.
So, these are long term plans that Xi is accelerating.
China now has more ICBM launchers than the US.

By the way, the Iranian FM is visiting China this week.
According to him, he is there to inform China about Iran's nuclear plans changing in 2025.

-Lord

DystopianMuse:



BUT YOU CAN TYPE EPISTLE HERE. GET FVCK OUUTA HERE. I LOVE THE WAY UVE BEEN CRYING ALL OVER THE THREAD. 0LD FOOL

If you want to shalaye.
Type to your heart's content.
No one is stopping you.

Happy holidays!

-Lord

Regex:



You wholesomely good with words. Such poise, wish I could be half good as you. You inexplicably taught me a lot about this war without faltering. I always look forward to reading your post.

Appreciate the kind words, Reg.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year in advance.

Been giving retirement more than a ing thought, tho'!

-Lord

izzou:


Because another goose will always be available.

That guy go come back, still do Custodian for the poor and downtrodden, and people go still raise funds for am.

E be like say una no sabi Nigerians

A luta continua.

He lacks wisdom though.
The civil society complex is a goldmine.
He had a foot in the door, glowing profile, endless potential, and blew it for $100K.
Poverty mentality!

-Lord

obedience4:



War is strategic, there's no point deploying troops to Yemen when you can simply destroy it from the skies,
Why waste men and material when a constant and sustained bombing spree will do the trick, carpet bombings doesn't just bring destruction but it carries a psychological effect, knowing that your opponents can rain down destruction from the sky and you simply have no f**king way of countering it.

The Jews have invested alot into having the best airforce in the region, and you don't them to use it??
That's would amount to wastage of taxpayers fund.

Why didn't Russia deploy troops during the Syrian war and instead used it air assets against the coalition fighting against assad government forces. Is Russia afraid? Can't they face off against a bunch of sandal-wearing Toyota-truck enthusiasts on the ground??

Like I pointed out the other time, the IDF has a long history of military campaigns, A careful glance one will see the IDF has conducted numerous land raids and invasion especially against threats close to its borders.

Israel just expanded into Syria, what's stopping the Arabs from stopping the Jews?? Israel had and will continue to defeat the best the Arabs have to offer.

Sit back and enjoy the show...

Bla bla bla.

The shalaye is not needed.

The IDF is an unfunny joke that is undeserving of valuable time.
Happy holidays!

-Lord

obedience4:


Thanks but no thanks

Why risk a protracted invasion, when you can just destroy your enemies from the sky. Russia did it Syria what stopping Israel from following suit.
With her jets the Jews will bring God's judgement upon the Islamic terriosts and their enablers in Yemen.

The saudis(pawns) will surely instigate the land based invasion of Houthis controlled Yemen. The Jews need not worry about that.

The Israelis have a proud and rich history of military combat victories, this is a nation which was birthed in war.

The IDF won't be drawn into any asymmetric land war with any proxies, its airforce and its intelligence agency would do the damage.
the Arabs should man up and attack the the Jews, not hiding behind proxies.

A conventional warfare is the basis to judge a military force, not some insurgents style warfare when your enemies are unknown and battlelines/fronts are not clearly drawn.

P.s the Israeli military and its intelligence agencies have done very well in gaza and labenon,
I thought hazebolla said no ceasefire until there was a peace deal in gaza?? Why surrender??.

Ten generations from now as long as the Jewish nation stands there will be no Palestine state. Stop dreaming about a Palestine state it will never happen.

Same way Hamas needs hate to recruit its thousands in its ranks, same why the Israeli uses patriotism as a means to fill its ranks, future Hamas terrorists will be killed by future IDF operators that's the circle of life.

Thanks again for showing your concerns. Netanyahu and the Jewish state will be fine.

That's a long, weird way of saying Israel is too chickenshit to face off a bunch of sandal-wearing Toyota-truck enthusiasts on the ground.
The US did it. Russia did it. Heck, Nigeria deployed her military more than a decade ago to enforce our security interests in two countries we didn't share a border with.

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Now that is deterrence. Hamas and Hezbollah have instilled the fear of God in a bunch of thugs who had always thought they were invincible.
Would you guys have ever believed that a time would come when you would be unwilling to deploy troops somewhere in the Middle East.
🤣🤣😃😃😆😆
The Ayatollah sends his regards! He don flog shege enter una stubborn head. The fear of missing limbs is the beginning of wisdom.

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At least, now that you've itted the IDF is a boys scout unit protected from consequences by their god in Washington DC; you can forward the memo to your fellow noisemakers.
The IDF are inconsequential nobodies.
You cannot be struggling with Hamas in an open prison, fail to meaningfully advance on your border after 3 months in spite of a 11-months comprehensive bombing campaign, and you think we'd waste our time on that bad joke you call a military.

-Lord

WrriterNg:



There's been an ongoing shadow war between India and Canada for over a year now and no one seems to be paying attention.

Cc LordAdam16

It's the West erecting guardrails around India.

What! Do you think they'll stop after Russia and China?
They're already planning decades ahead to put the drop on India and enforce a hard limit on how far they can grow.

They did it to Japan. We're living through 's neutering.
If they can do it to their own Western minions, who is India?
Maybe, because of the likes of Sunak, Vivek, Tulsi, Haley, Nadella, Pichai; India thinks they'll have a different trajectory.
Wishful thinking!

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It's funny that they're re-using the Uighur script for India.
See, if Nigeria gets its sh*t together and start making giant strides.
Many of their useful id**ts on this thread are the tools they'll use to cut Nigeria to size.

As I repeatedly say in some form, the Hegemony may be dying, but it is still a capable adversary with very potent arrows in their quiver.
The multipolar world is not some fancy project. It is an existential necessity.

-Lord

obedience4:



The Houthis are the new bride in town, same way hazebolla was primed and hyped and they suffered the consequences and payed a heavy price for its actions.

Netanyahu is always looking for opportunities to destroy iran's proxies and the Houthis just provided him with the perfect opportunity. And knowing bibi he is going to utilise it to the fullest.

With the US navy providing a comprehensive naval blockage to prevent arms from reaching Yemen via iran, the Israeli military can just keep raining bombs from the sky.
While the Saudis can also sponsor and land base attack from within the government controlled part of Yemen.

It's 2024.
Israel should buy or borrow LHDs from the US to deploy forces in Yemen.
They have paratroopers. They have a Navy.

Your diaper forces are still being neutralized in Gaza
Hezbollah killed and amputated more IDF forces after Nasrallah's death than before.
We are past the stage of hypes. We're in "do your worst" territory.

Israel spent one year bombing Lebanon and capitulated in only 3 months of a ground operation.
Top of my Christmas wish list is that some clown should convince them to deploy their Navy to Yemen.

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The IDF is a blow-up doll. Satanyahu is Heaven's greatest gift to the Resistance.
In one year, he has eviscerated Jewish global they'd earned with the lives of millions.
The State of Palestine went from probable to inevitable.
Hamas refurbished its image and have a lifetime supply of recruits.
Hezbollah reiterated its primacy and convinced the sceptics in Lebanon, Iran, and the wider region that Sayed Nasrallah's actions weren't ambitious politicking but necessary countermeasures that must now be aggressively pursued.
An Assad that was never going to attack Israel gave way to neo-Taliban Wahhabi terrorists.
Heck, he managed to convince the Iraqi militias and Houthis to stop thinking local and start preparing for a future mother-of-all confrontations.
He gift-wrapped the casus belli for Iran to acquire nukes on a platter.

To put this in perspective, there is currently a fuel crisis in Iran. Usually, this leads to some demonstrations and increases anti-regime fervor amongst the wider population in Iran. Guess what, it's been crickets. Satanyahu convinced the wider Iranian public that the Ayatollah is the devil they know. Satanyahu and the Israeli public would be gleeful if Tehran and Qoms became Gaza. They see what Israeli jets do in Gaza and know they're next. Do you want to wear hijab or do you want to bury your entire family? Taxes were increased marginally in the new budget so as to increase military spending, and Iranians are like, "we'll allow it". That'd have led to protests before October 7.
The Resistance was not ready for the events post October 7. There were lots of sceptics within Resistance circles who believed that the Israeli threat wasn't been used by hardliners to pursue personal goals. Satanyahu successfully disabused the sceptics of that notion.
Satanyahu has no idea what he's unleashed. Even I am concerned.

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Satanyahu is to Hamas what Hitler was to Stalin.
Satanyahu gave Hezbollah their Pearl Harbor moment.
The Houthis are now 19th century Japan.
Iran are like the Soviets after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Iraq and Syrian minorities are like; yep, there is something out there worse than the Assad dynasty.
I don't think strategists in Iran could have prayed for a better chain of events.
At this point, Satanyahu is for all intents and purpose as pivotal to the Resistance as Soleimani.

-Lord

IMAliyu2:
The girls are fighting 🍿

It seems there's a divide between the tech bro rightwing and Americafirst rightwing, on the issue of H1b immigration and workforce.

Both camps will have to come to a compromise.

I am in favor of increased legal migration.
Strengthen the borders. Deport illegals. Revamp the legal immigration system.
America can absorb more than 100m more immigrants.
But they must be vetted, properly distributed across the professions and trades, and be introduced in a controlled fashion.

The America First wing does not want increased migration. They aim to preserve a Caucasian majority.
The Tech wing wants to expand the sponge dynamic. Where the US remains the leading magnet for top talent from around the world.
If you regard human capital or talent as a finite resource. More for America translates to less for the rest of the world. This extends America's prime superpower status for decades longer.

I approve of the organic, town square style exchange between the various wings in the MAGA movement.
This all started with Ron Paul. It will continue to evolve to meet contemporary realities.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

Ogbeni shut up and go to sleep.
You have tried since morning.
You keep spewing rubbish since morning and doing stupid explanations.
If this were to be a legal case, I would have won and you would be stupidly doing one nonsense "shalaye"
The plane was hit from the outside, true or false? All your stupid explanations about how a traditional air defence system impacts a destruction is totally irrelevant.
If you have any other complaint, kindly channel it to Euronews, the Azerbaijani government, Sky News or better still, take it to the grave. We've had enough today.
Rest!!!!!!!!!!

You quoted me.
Just one response after, you are already shouting "Rest"!

F**L! 😀

You'll FA then start waving a white flag to avoid FO.

Happy holidays clown 🤡!

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

This one na certificate carrying lunatic.
"Behave yourself" Who you wan beat? Have you beaten all your village elders?
I no fit laugh oo
Obedience, behave yourself 🤣🤣
Dystopianmuse, Treat this as final warning. 😂😂
Who else abeg 😂😂😂

If I start with you now, you'll start begging that I shouldn't quote you.

Advice your partner-in-id**cy.
Maybe he will listen to you, since you two share one brain cell.

Keep my sobriquet out of your st*pid
It's not difficult.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


If this is deliberate by the Russian then this is real bad.

It's not enough you hit a plane by accident or not, but you still try to bury evidence by denying emergency landing, jamming the GPS signal also sending them hundreds of mile over the Capsian sea for what? To bury everything deep under the blue.
Nah this is a deliberate act of cover up, all officials involved should be sanctioned.

Imagine not seeing the evidence displayed at the tail section of the aircraft, the Russian could easily downplay the involvement and folks like would gladly help propagate the lies. The reason for full public media control of the communist state, they give you what they want you to know! And folks here defend that!

Behave yourself!

Treat this as a final warning.

I've repeated this so often, it's almost a slogan. I and most people are waiting for the conclusion of investigations.
Keep my sobriquet out of your comments if you will opt to act like an id**t!

Since you guys are treating enger testimony as gospel:
BBC is reporting that a surviving enger confirmed that the Azeri flight did successfully complete its journey from Baku to Grozny.
The pilots attempted to land the plane twice at the Grozny airport. But apparently they were unsuccessful because of fog.
The accident occurred during their third attempt to land.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgp3qx0q7wo

I and many here will not make excuses for Russia if their operators are complicit in this accident.
But I will wait for the conclusion of investigations for all facts to be verified and laid bare.

You can choose to type rubbish.
But avoid mentioning me when you are trying out for the Stup*d Olympics!

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Baba not everything is 1+1.
A traditional SAM will not always destroy. It depends on the size of the warhead, explosive force, proximity of impact, and the particular plane part being hit by the shrapnel.
Even those link you posted shows that civilians airlines where not destroyed immediately or downed at the area of attack, but still continued for some few kilometers.
The total destruction noted here is not from the direct impact of the SAM system but the ground crash.
Direct impact can also cause an engine fire, breaking of the fuselage and pilot death. But all this depends on the various factors outlined earlier.
So doesn't always base your theory that a SAM attack would most likely destroy the target, as we've also seen numerous incidents of planes surviving multiple direct SAM attacks.

I'm not sure what links you read, but they clearly showed that all engers and crews died and neither plane traveled intact for a distance equivalent to the width of the Caspian Sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents

That is the link of a compilation of airliner shootdown incidents.
Look at the sheer number of accidents caused by traditional SAMS where no one survived.

You don't argue about everything.

The only reason why the Azeri plane was able to traverse the Caspian Sea after impact is that the Russians had been using a system optimized to take down drones. Traditional air defense SAMs are designed to take down aircraft as large as transporters and refuelers like the C-130 Hercules. The Embraer 191 would have stood no chance.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

Me I will not argue with you again.
Out of everything I posted, which one was not correct according to Euronews?
1. Did the plane not take a detour?
2. Was Grozny not under attack
3. Was the place where the crash happened not militarized? (I already explained this part to you, that is if you are sensible enough to read it)
See, na beg I dey beg you, don't reply me again. I will soon start thinking like you if I continue to engage you and that is very very very bad for my level of intelligence.
It ain't my fault that your brain capacity is too low to read and understand beyond the lines. Let me remind you that you are no longer a secondary school student. Only sec school student read and interpret the way you do.
, abeg, no reply me again.

I know comprehension is a challenge for you, so I'll reformat my response to your falsehoods.

Gbadebo19:

1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.

1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not militarized.

2. Grozny was currently under attack as at the time of the crash.

2. The Ukrainian drones were shot down over Vladikavkaz in North Ossetia and neighboring Ingushetia. Not in Grozny.

3. The plane took a significant detour which in normal circumstances doesn't happen. This points to a GPS jamming.

3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. One, the authorities in Grozny informed the pilots of fog. That's why they couldn't land in Grozny. GPS jamming does not automatically lead to detours. This is the NYT quoting an aviation journalist who states this

"According to Andrei Menshenin, an aviation journalist, GPS jamming and spoofing could make piloting uncomfortable but was unlikely to have caused the crash.

“Every day hundreds of planes fly though areas where GPS spoofing is happening,” he said in response to written questions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/25/world/europe/kazakhstan-plane-crash.html

I asked you to stop typing rubbish for a reason.

You should look through your post history.
You quoted me. You can get off my mention the same way you got on my mention. The door is that way.

Purveyor of nonsense!

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

By now, you are a certified mad man.
I posted yahoo news for you, together with the link, you didn't read. You were in a hurry to reply. Are you suffering from ADHD?

This is what you posted:

Gbadebo19:

1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.
2. Grozny was currently under attack as at the time of the crash.
3. The plane took a significant detour which in normal circumstances doesn't happen. This points to a GPS jamming. Mind you, the detour was in hundreds of miles. What the hell are you talking about. Why would a plane take such a very significant detour if not for GPS jamming.

All three points are factually untrue.
That's why I call you a braindead ret**d!

Now compare that to my own take on the shoot-down theory:

LordAdam16:

For the rest of the thread who want clarity on the crash.
The shoot-down theory has its merits.
1. Russia has deployed a new class of Air Defense systems for anti-drone warfare. These systems have smaller warheads that explode in proximity to their targets. When they explode, they release shrapnel.
2. The inward-piercing holes at the rear of the jet are consistent with shrapnel impact.
3. It is speculated that the shrapnels damaged hydraulics and electricals at the rear of the jet that made controlling the jet difficult.

There are lots of questions, which is why every normal person is waiting for an investigation. The jet flew for several more minutes after the accident. They couldn't return to Baku so the pilots made inquiries for any airport close by to make an emergency crash landing. They opted to cross the Caspian Sea to land at a Kazakh airport. And were about a few kilometers out when the crash occurred.

The pilots are heroes.

The rear of the jet is mostly intact, so there'll be definitive conclusion if indeed it was impacted by a Russian system.

I am not allergic to facts.

If an hypothesis or has merits and is plausible, I'll it it.
Which is exactly why I harped about waiting for the conclusion of an investigation.

The initial from the Russians and Kazakhs appeared consistent with the video of the crash.
And I rely on official s because TG channels, some Western media, and even Reuters and flight trackers suggested that the plane carrying Assad was shot down in Syria and that he likely died. That turned out to be false.
With the Azeris categorically saying there was SAM impact, it put the onus on the Russians specifically to offer contrarian evidence.
The odds of that are miniscule and that's why I'm accepting the Azeri as pro tempore fact.

I doubt you are a lawyer.
If you are, I empathize with your clients.
How are you incapable of properly outlining a version of events and cross-match the axioms with available facts?
Anyone with a degree can do that.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:
So, where is that deranged and mad goat called LordAdam16?
Come out!!!!!
Weyrey!!!
Running your mouth like as if you have an atom of intelligence.
Quoting Aljazeera for me. A whole me? It took me over 3 years to know Al Jazeera for who they were.
One slowpoke is here telling me he read some stupid official correspondence.
Now, between me and you, who is the one with a 4 decimal point IQ?
Very Annoying Mad Goat
Weyrey!!!!
Let today be the last time you will ever engage me on this thread. I can't stoop so low to your level of unreasonability

Confirmed by Euro News.

See full report here:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/26/exclusive-preliminary-investigation-confirms-russian-missile-over-grozny-caused-aktau-cras

I'll repeat it for the umpteenth time.

You are a F**L!

A complete id**t!

If the Azeris are saying a Russian SAM hit the plane, I'll accept it.
What I will not accept is you, a certified ret**d, using speculation to state easily verifiable falsehoods.

You couldn't post the correct facts on where the plane crashed, where the drones were downed, or why the plane took a different route.

I said we should wait for the completion of an investigation.
That is still in offing. But I am willing to treat the Azeris as provisionally correct.

Again, you are a F**L!
If you don't want to be labeled a mor*n, don't type rubbish.
Take an extra minute to facts and get your ducks in a row.

-Lord

bemeruca:


In the UK, an adult had sex with a 13 years old based on what his imams taught him.

I said the guy raped the girl, budaatum said it is not rape because he did not pin her down before he did it.

He also tried to say because the judge did not charge the guy with rape that means it did not happen.
I didn't just woke up and start saying he s these things. He has been taking stance or people grooming kids which often leads to rape against such kids by an adult.

Please share the link to that exchange.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

Just stop typing rubbish, you hear?
Let's address your gibberish one after the other.
1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan.
Were you blind to the fact that the plane took a significant detour in hundreds of miles? That simply explains why the crash occured in that location. Secondly, will a plane come crashing at to the ground at the point of impact? If definitely would still move some kilometres before crashing.

Who put a gun to your head to type that
"The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia"?

I will repeat this as many times as is necessary.
Stop typing rubbish.
If you can't get basic facts right, stay silent.

2. The Ukrainian drones were not shot down at Grozny.
You will have to argue this one with instant news feeds that stated that Grozny was under attack as at the time the plane was attached.

Where were the drones shot down?
It is a very simple question.

Stop typing rubbish!

3. The plane took a detour for several reasons.
Are you the pilot? Are you the one to tell us why exactly the plane took a detour? It isn't just a detour, it was a significant detour in the excess of hundreds of miles. It has already been stated that the plane took a detour because of an ongoing attack in Grozny, yet you are trying to turn facts upside down.
There are only two reasons why the plane took a detour.
1. It's destination, Grozny was under attack. (Several news sources already reported it)
2. GPS Jamming
There is nothing in the media to your ass-pulled tales by moonlight that it could be a fog.
Call me a single digit IQ, I am way better off than you who doesn't even have a brain at all.

See, you are very MAD.

The plane had to divert from its original route because of heavy fog in Grozny, its intended destination, and make an emergency landing.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/26/why-did-an-azerbaijan-airline-plane-crash-in-kazakhstan-what-we-know

You think everyone is as ret**ded as you are to make factually untrue statements without credible sources.

Lastly, are you so dumb to see that from the pictures released, the impact showed that the plane was attacked from the outside and NOT from the inside. You are even so dumb that you stated "inward piercing shrapnel". Doesn't that tell you that the attack came from outside and not from the inside? If it came from the engine tank rubbish you are stating, then the shrapnel should have been outward piercing and NOT inward piercing.
That negates the rubbish you are spoofing about an internal engine balderdash.

It's simple. The inward piercing shrapnel us evidence that the plane was attacked from the outside most likely by Russian air defences. That was what led to the oxygen tank explosion. Don't be stupid.

Be here, we will soon see the outcome of the investigation.

Lastly, always try to read and make sense of the rubbish you copy and paste before posting them.

My positions on this accident have emerged from the preliminary official correspondences from the Russian and Kazakhstan authorities.
My opposition has been to the factually untrue statements you id**ts have been making.

This is my comment responding to Simeon that started this exchange.

LordAdam16:


Read what you wrote and assess if you're okay upstairs.

Seriously, do it.

After typing crap, you end with "it's early".
Why are exposing your id**cy when you know it is too early and we should wait for full investigation.
Are you trying to win "Id**t of the Year" award before the year wraps up.

-Lord

After meandering, you've also arrived at "we will soon see the outcome of the investigation".

Meanwhile you went off the deep end because you initially had a problem with me saying we should all wait for the outcome of an investigation.

F**L!

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

And this nincompoop is still telling me the place was not militarized. Well, feed your eyes.
Your gibberish is as a result of closing your brain to quality info and tagging it western media propaganda. It only damages your brain and makes you more stupid

Gbadebo19:

1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.

Braindead m*ron!

Compare what you wrote and what is in that screenshot.

I specifically respond to your id**cy.
Stop polluting this thread with your illiteracy.
If you can't comprehend and make silly errors that a K-12 pupil wouldn't make, keep quiet.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Most times airdefenses doesn't work that way. They are not what you see in Hollywood movies, they operate by proximity fuse sending numerous shrapnel of various across a 50m radius.
Those shrapnel hitting engines, fuel areas and others is what is responsible for taking down an areal target.

The holes seen on this plane is consistent with airburst system. This is no engine explosion,
The whole back tail end is covered with hundreds of holes of high penetrating projectiles, and engine damage won't give you that.

My initial position is that a traditional Air Defense SAM will destroy that plane and there'll be no survivors.

We have several instances of that happening.

Instead this plane crossed the Caspian Sea and the pilots were able to correct its gyrations, with great difficulties of course, until they were a few kilometers out from the airport.

The two official statements, which might end up being wrong, are the Russians saying the accident was caused by a bird strike and the Kazakhs saying an oxygen cylinder exploded in the plane.

This is a Russian pilot who landed a plane in a cornfield after a bird strike disabled both engines.
https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/aug/16/russipilot-safely-lands-jetliner-disabled-bir/
And you can use Google to see pictures of planes impacted by bird strike.

Of course, nothing can be ruled out, but you can see why normal people wait for investigations to be concluded.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

I repeat, you are a fool. Everything damn rubbish you wrote is based on your own personal speculation which is not in consonance with any of the reported probabilities so far. Read and stop exposing your transparent brain on a public forum.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/azerbaijan-airlines-crash-sparks-speculation-200517076.html

Everything in this report suggests that the plane was most likely shot down as it was mistaken for a Ukrainian drone due to the fact that
1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.
2. Grozny was currently under attack as at the time of the crash.
3. The plane took a significant detour which in normal circumstances doesn't happen. This points to a GPS jamming.

We might catch cruise and do all sorts here, it's just not your type they are talking about when the word "intelligent" is being used

Buffoon, this is what happens when an Air Defense SAM takes out an airliner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752
And this by the Americans - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

It destroys the airliner and kills everyone on board.

Any one can speculate but the drones Russia shot down did not crash in Kazakhstan.

And stop typing rubbish!
All three points you just shared are a pile of horsesh*t.

1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not militarized.
2. The Ukrainian drones were shot down over Vladikavkaz in North Ossetia and neighboring Ingushetia. Not in Grozny.
3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. One, the authorities in Grozny informed the pilots of fog. That's why they couldn't land in Grozny. GPS jamming does not automatically lead to detours. This is the NYT quoting an aviation journalist who states this

"According to Andrei Menshenin, an aviation journalist, GPS jamming and spoofing could make piloting uncomfortable but was unlikely to have caused the crash.

“Every day hundreds of planes fly though areas where GPS spoofing is happening,” he said in response to written questions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/25/world/europe/kazakhstan-plane-crash.html

An investigation is underway and we'll learn what happened.
While everyone is patient, you and your Siamese id**t are running around prematurely saying reports already suggest the jet was shot down.

Because you both have single digit IQ, you can't even get your theory and the basic facts right.
You're the special kind of cretin who would still fail an exam despite copying from a straight-A student.
How hard is it to wait? Will you atrophy if you wait a few weeks for a definitive official from the Kazakh authorities?

For the rest of the thread who want clarity on the crash.
The shoot-down theory has its merits.
1. Russia has deployed a new class of Air Defense systems for anti-drone warfare. These systems have smaller warheads that explode in proximity to their targets. When they explode, they release shrapnel.
2. The inward-piercing holes at the rear of the jet are consistent with shrapnel impact.
3. It is speculated that the shrapnels damaged hydraulics and electricals at the rear of the jet that made controlling the jet difficult.

There are lots of questions, which is why every normal person is waiting for an investigation. The jet flew for several more minutes after the accident. They couldn't return to Baku so the pilots made inquiries for any airport close by to make an emergency crash landing. They opted to cross the Caspian Sea to land at a Kazakh airport. And were about a few kilometers out when the crash occurred.

The pilots are heroes.

The rear of the jet is mostly intact, so there'll be definitive conclusion if indeed it was impacted by a Russian system.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

So, because it's early, we should disregard a statement made by a survivor?
Do you really have anything like matter in your head?

Survivor's is unreliable in this situation.
Bird strikes generally lead to explosions of the engine. Look it up.

The Kazakh authorities confirmed early on that an oxygen tank exploded on board the plane after the bird strike.
A normal person would know an oxygen tank explosion will produce shrapnel. The tank wouldn't just evaporate.

The video of the crash is online for anyone with two brain cells to watch.
The plane at a point went into a steep dive, but the pilots recovered. Then it stalled and then the crash happened.
Air defense would take out that plane in mid air. The details of the crash from the video is consistent with the official narrative that a bird strike caused this incident. The pilots were excellent and they were almost able to get to the runway but the plane just couldn't go any further, likely due to loss of power or some other vital component not functioning properly

That initial dive would have killed almost everyone on board. So the recovery saved dozens of lives.
That would not have been possible if they were hit by an air defense SAM.
You ret**ds should stop prematurely commenting on issues that are beyond your pay grade.

-Lord

bemeruca:


What the guy did was statutory rape, budaatum downplayed it. I called it rape, he said it is not rape.

It is not new, he has a track record of ing groomers. Kids that are groomed end up having sex with adults.

I don't have time to dig up the past but if you can do your research you will find posts where he is ing groomers.

Another thing, budaatum is like a snake, he flip-flops all the time.
Recently you would think he does not hold a stance of ing the castration of minors, the wind has blow the other way so he is sounding like he is against it.

But see this post below
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-president-elect/3730#122174515

My take on this, particularly the part in bold is that you should have that stuck in a folder or note app for easy reference.
Your accusation is weighty.
If you're going to malign a character, have incontrovertible proof to back up your assertions.

To add, it is possible to make a comment about statutory rape that might on the surface look bad but isn't.
The age cut-off for statutory rape is not uniform across the West.
Budaatum is in the UK. Age of consent there is 16. It's 16 in Canada as well.
In New Zealand, it's 16. But anyone under 20 is legally a minor. So sexual relations with a 19 year old can be described as sex with a minor which is just bleh 🤮.
Heck, in the US. It's 16 in 31 states. 17 in 7, including NY.
In the military, it's 16. Because they recruit 17 year-olds and you would have a statutory rape caseload higher than the Empire State if you set it at 18.
In fact, while federal law in the US pegs it at 18, it doesn't supersede state statues. And in federal law, the age of consent for US nationals who engage in sexual relations outside the US is 16.

I'm not going to reference mainland Europe. It's a madhouse over there. I know it's the law, but really, 14 in is like, "Guys, hold up".

So you see why there might be an issue. Say the right thing in the wrong way and you've got a problem.
You can't just brand a person a pedo without sharing the offending comment they made.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Say that to this crash survivor
“For the third time, something exploded. There was an explosion - I wouldn’t say that it was inside the plane. Where I was sitting, the lining next to me flew off.”

He added that he reached for his life jacket, and there was a hole in it:

“I took the jacket, and I look: there was a hole in the jacket - a piece of shrapnel had pierced it. After this explosion, right between my legs - somewhere there - this piece of shrapnel flew in and hit me. It pierced the jacket right through.”

Or activated Russian Air defense confirmed active in the vicinity of Grozny around same time. Mind you plane was heady Grozny before diverting and landing in Kazakhstan probably after being hit.

It's early but we'll wait the full investigation in the next few days.

Read what you wrote and assess if you're okay upstairs.

Seriously, do it.

After typing crap, you end with "it's early".
Why are exposing your id**cy when you know it is too early and we should wait for full investigation.
Are you trying to win "Id**t of the Year" award before the year wraps up.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Yeah shot down by putin foot soldiers.

Don't worry they are cooking up their damage control which you and WriteerNg will help propagate

How did Russian soldiers shoot down a plane in Kazakhstan?

-Lord

WriteerNg:
⚡Iranian FM:

“Those claiming victory in Syria should wait; many developments lie ahead.”

WriteerNg:
⚡Curfews have been declared in the Syrian cities of Latakia, Jableh and Homs following clashes between remnants of the former regime and security forces.

Iran is showing off.

-Lord

budaatum:

If you want your posts kept out of, post in your private forum where only you read it.

You can not create imaginary lanes to put people into and then ask that your name be kept out of your posts. Or rather, you can ask, but as you can see, request denied.

I am under no legal obligation to entertain your innate incoherency.

It is a polite request.
Get your sh*t together before quoting me.
You can always continue your incoherent rambling as you've done before yesterday as you'll do after today.
Just keep me out of it.

Is that too much to ask, your highness?! /s

-Lord

budaatum:

Thankfully, some conservatives did not wait for what anyone else wanted and condemned Gaetz already.



But I'm very certain they must only have condemned Gaetz because Biden paid them with Obama's money, so perhaps we better not count or notice them.

Congratulations.
You have your token Conservative condemnation.

Why is that not enough for you?

One minute, conservatives excuse statutory rape.
Next minute, conservatives condemn statutory rape.

Pick a lane. Or argue with yourself. IDGAF.
But keep my name out of your posts.

-Lord