NewStats: 3,264,643 , 8,184,309 topics. Date: Wednesday, 11 June 2025 at 08:22 PM 191g20

Gbadebo19:

Ogbeni shut up and go to sleep.
You have tried since morning.
You keep spewing rubbish since morning and doing stupid explanations.
If this were to be a legal case, I would have won and you would be stupidly doing one nonsense "shalaye"
The plane was hit from the outside, true or false? All your stupid explanations about how a traditional air defence system impacts a destruction is totally irrelevant.
If you have any other complaint, kindly channel it to Euronews, the Azerbaijani government, Sky News or better still, take it to the grave. We've had enough today.
Rest!!!!!!!!!!

You quoted me.
Just one response after, you are already shouting "Rest"!

F**L! 😀

You'll FA then start waving a white flag to avoid FO.

Happy holidays clown 🤡!

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

This one na certificate carrying lunatic.
"Behave yourself" Who you wan beat? Have you beaten all your village elders?
I no fit laugh oo
Obedience, behave yourself 🤣🤣
Dystopianmuse, Treat this as final warning. 😂😂
Who else abeg 😂😂😂

If I start with you now, you'll start begging that I shouldn't quote you.

Advice your partner-in-id**cy.
Maybe he will listen to you, since you two share one brain cell.

Keep my sobriquet out of your st*pid
It's not difficult.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


If this is deliberate by the Russian then this is real bad.

It's not enough you hit a plane by accident or not, but you still try to bury evidence by denying emergency landing, jamming the GPS signal also sending them hundreds of mile over the Capsian sea for what? To bury everything deep under the blue.
Nah this is a deliberate act of cover up, all officials involved should be sanctioned.

Imagine not seeing the evidence displayed at the tail section of the aircraft, the Russian could easily downplay the involvement and folks like would gladly help propagate the lies. The reason for full public media control of the communist state, they give you what they want you to know! And folks here defend that!

Behave yourself!

Treat this as a final warning.

I've repeated this so often, it's almost a slogan. I and most people are waiting for the conclusion of investigations.
Keep my sobriquet out of your comments if you will opt to act like an id**t!

Since you guys are treating enger testimony as gospel:
BBC is reporting that a surviving enger confirmed that the Azeri flight did successfully complete its journey from Baku to Grozny.
The pilots attempted to land the plane twice at the Grozny airport. But apparently they were unsuccessful because of fog.
The accident occurred during their third attempt to land.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgp3qx0q7wo

I and many here will not make excuses for Russia if their operators are complicit in this accident.
But I will wait for the conclusion of investigations for all facts to be verified and laid bare.

You can choose to type rubbish.
But avoid mentioning me when you are trying out for the Stup*d Olympics!

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Baba not everything is 1+1.
A traditional SAM will not always destroy. It depends on the size of the warhead, explosive force, proximity of impact, and the particular plane part being hit by the shrapnel.
Even those link you posted shows that civilians airlines where not destroyed immediately or downed at the area of attack, but still continued for some few kilometers.
The total destruction noted here is not from the direct impact of the SAM system but the ground crash.
Direct impact can also cause an engine fire, breaking of the fuselage and pilot death. But all this depends on the various factors outlined earlier.
So doesn't always base your theory that a SAM attack would most likely destroy the target, as we've also seen numerous incidents of planes surviving multiple direct SAM attacks.

I'm not sure what links you read, but they clearly showed that all engers and crews died and neither plane traveled intact for a distance equivalent to the width of the Caspian Sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airliner_shootdown_incidents

That is the link of a compilation of airliner shootdown incidents.
Look at the sheer number of accidents caused by traditional SAMS where no one survived.

You don't argue about everything.

The only reason why the Azeri plane was able to traverse the Caspian Sea after impact is that the Russians had been using a system optimized to take down drones. Traditional air defense SAMs are designed to take down aircraft as large as transporters and refuelers like the C-130 Hercules. The Embraer 191 would have stood no chance.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

Me I will not argue with you again.
Out of everything I posted, which one was not correct according to Euronews?
1. Did the plane not take a detour?
2. Was Grozny not under attack
3. Was the place where the crash happened not militarized? (I already explained this part to you, that is if you are sensible enough to read it)
See, na beg I dey beg you, don't reply me again. I will soon start thinking like you if I continue to engage you and that is very very very bad for my level of intelligence.
It ain't my fault that your brain capacity is too low to read and understand beyond the lines. Let me remind you that you are no longer a secondary school student. Only sec school student read and interpret the way you do.
, abeg, no reply me again.

I know comprehension is a challenge for you, so I'll reformat my response to your falsehoods.

Gbadebo19:

1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.

1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not militarized.

2. Grozny was currently under attack as at the time of the crash.

2. The Ukrainian drones were shot down over Vladikavkaz in North Ossetia and neighboring Ingushetia. Not in Grozny.

3. The plane took a significant detour which in normal circumstances doesn't happen. This points to a GPS jamming.

3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. One, the authorities in Grozny informed the pilots of fog. That's why they couldn't land in Grozny. GPS jamming does not automatically lead to detours. This is the NYT quoting an aviation journalist who states this

"According to Andrei Menshenin, an aviation journalist, GPS jamming and spoofing could make piloting uncomfortable but was unlikely to have caused the crash.

“Every day hundreds of planes fly though areas where GPS spoofing is happening,” he said in response to written questions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/25/world/europe/kazakhstan-plane-crash.html

I asked you to stop typing rubbish for a reason.

You should look through your post history.
You quoted me. You can get off my mention the same way you got on my mention. The door is that way.

Purveyor of nonsense!

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

By now, you are a certified mad man.
I posted yahoo news for you, together with the link, you didn't read. You were in a hurry to reply. Are you suffering from ADHD?

This is what you posted:

Gbadebo19:

1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.
2. Grozny was currently under attack as at the time of the crash.
3. The plane took a significant detour which in normal circumstances doesn't happen. This points to a GPS jamming. Mind you, the detour was in hundreds of miles. What the hell are you talking about. Why would a plane take such a very significant detour if not for GPS jamming.

All three points are factually untrue.
That's why I call you a braindead ret**d!

Now compare that to my own take on the shoot-down theory:

LordAdam16:

For the rest of the thread who want clarity on the crash.
The shoot-down theory has its merits.
1. Russia has deployed a new class of Air Defense systems for anti-drone warfare. These systems have smaller warheads that explode in proximity to their targets. When they explode, they release shrapnel.
2. The inward-piercing holes at the rear of the jet are consistent with shrapnel impact.
3. It is speculated that the shrapnels damaged hydraulics and electricals at the rear of the jet that made controlling the jet difficult.

There are lots of questions, which is why every normal person is waiting for an investigation. The jet flew for several more minutes after the accident. They couldn't return to Baku so the pilots made inquiries for any airport close by to make an emergency crash landing. They opted to cross the Caspian Sea to land at a Kazakh airport. And were about a few kilometers out when the crash occurred.

The pilots are heroes.

The rear of the jet is mostly intact, so there'll be definitive conclusion if indeed it was impacted by a Russian system.

I am not allergic to facts.

If an hypothesis or has merits and is plausible, I'll it it.
Which is exactly why I harped about waiting for the conclusion of an investigation.

The initial from the Russians and Kazakhs appeared consistent with the video of the crash.
And I rely on official s because TG channels, some Western media, and even Reuters and flight trackers suggested that the plane carrying Assad was shot down in Syria and that he likely died. That turned out to be false.
With the Azeris categorically saying there was SAM impact, it put the onus on the Russians specifically to offer contrarian evidence.
The odds of that are miniscule and that's why I'm accepting the Azeri as pro tempore fact.

I doubt you are a lawyer.
If you are, I empathize with your clients.
How are you incapable of properly outlining a version of events and cross-match the axioms with available facts?
Anyone with a degree can do that.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:
So, where is that deranged and mad goat called LordAdam16?
Come out!!!!!
Weyrey!!!
Running your mouth like as if you have an atom of intelligence.
Quoting Aljazeera for me. A whole me? It took me over 3 years to know Al Jazeera for who they were.
One slowpoke is here telling me he read some stupid official correspondence.
Now, between me and you, who is the one with a 4 decimal point IQ?
Very Annoying Mad Goat
Weyrey!!!!
Let today be the last time you will ever engage me on this thread. I can't stoop so low to your level of unreasonability

Confirmed by Euro News.

See full report here:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/26/exclusive-preliminary-investigation-confirms-russian-missile-over-grozny-caused-aktau-cras

I'll repeat it for the umpteenth time.

You are a F**L!

A complete id**t!

If the Azeris are saying a Russian SAM hit the plane, I'll accept it.
What I will not accept is you, a certified ret**d, using speculation to state easily verifiable falsehoods.

You couldn't post the correct facts on where the plane crashed, where the drones were downed, or why the plane took a different route.

I said we should wait for the completion of an investigation.
That is still in offing. But I am willing to treat the Azeris as provisionally correct.

Again, you are a F**L!
If you don't want to be labeled a mor*n, don't type rubbish.
Take an extra minute to facts and get your ducks in a row.

-Lord

bemeruca:


In the UK, an adult had sex with a 13 years old based on what his imams taught him.

I said the guy raped the girl, budaatum said it is not rape because he did not pin her down before he did it.

He also tried to say because the judge did not charge the guy with rape that means it did not happen.
I didn't just woke up and start saying he s these things. He has been taking stance or people grooming kids which often leads to rape against such kids by an adult.

Please share the link to that exchange.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

Just stop typing rubbish, you hear?
Let's address your gibberish one after the other.
1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan.
Were you blind to the fact that the plane took a significant detour in hundreds of miles? That simply explains why the crash occured in that location. Secondly, will a plane come crashing at to the ground at the point of impact? If definitely would still move some kilometres before crashing.

Who put a gun to your head to type that
"The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia"?

I will repeat this as many times as is necessary.
Stop typing rubbish.
If you can't get basic facts right, stay silent.

2. The Ukrainian drones were not shot down at Grozny.
You will have to argue this one with instant news feeds that stated that Grozny was under attack as at the time the plane was attached.

Where were the drones shot down?
It is a very simple question.

Stop typing rubbish!

3. The plane took a detour for several reasons.
Are you the pilot? Are you the one to tell us why exactly the plane took a detour? It isn't just a detour, it was a significant detour in the excess of hundreds of miles. It has already been stated that the plane took a detour because of an ongoing attack in Grozny, yet you are trying to turn facts upside down.
There are only two reasons why the plane took a detour.
1. It's destination, Grozny was under attack. (Several news sources already reported it)
2. GPS Jamming
There is nothing in the media to your ass-pulled tales by moonlight that it could be a fog.
Call me a single digit IQ, I am way better off than you who doesn't even have a brain at all.

See, you are very MAD.

The plane had to divert from its original route because of heavy fog in Grozny, its intended destination, and make an emergency landing.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/26/why-did-an-azerbaijan-airline-plane-crash-in-kazakhstan-what-we-know

You think everyone is as ret**ded as you are to make factually untrue statements without credible sources.

Lastly, are you so dumb to see that from the pictures released, the impact showed that the plane was attacked from the outside and NOT from the inside. You are even so dumb that you stated "inward piercing shrapnel". Doesn't that tell you that the attack came from outside and not from the inside? If it came from the engine tank rubbish you are stating, then the shrapnel should have been outward piercing and NOT inward piercing.
That negates the rubbish you are spoofing about an internal engine balderdash.

It's simple. The inward piercing shrapnel us evidence that the plane was attacked from the outside most likely by Russian air defences. That was what led to the oxygen tank explosion. Don't be stupid.

Be here, we will soon see the outcome of the investigation.

Lastly, always try to read and make sense of the rubbish you copy and paste before posting them.

My positions on this accident have emerged from the preliminary official correspondences from the Russian and Kazakhstan authorities.
My opposition has been to the factually untrue statements you id**ts have been making.

This is my comment responding to Simeon that started this exchange.

LordAdam16:


Read what you wrote and assess if you're okay upstairs.

Seriously, do it.

After typing crap, you end with "it's early".
Why are exposing your id**cy when you know it is too early and we should wait for full investigation.
Are you trying to win "Id**t of the Year" award before the year wraps up.

-Lord

After meandering, you've also arrived at "we will soon see the outcome of the investigation".

Meanwhile you went off the deep end because you initially had a problem with me saying we should all wait for the outcome of an investigation.

F**L!

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

And this nincompoop is still telling me the place was not militarized. Well, feed your eyes.
Your gibberish is as a result of closing your brain to quality info and tagging it western media propaganda. It only damages your brain and makes you more stupid

Gbadebo19:

1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.

Braindead m*ron!

Compare what you wrote and what is in that screenshot.

I specifically respond to your id**cy.
Stop polluting this thread with your illiteracy.
If you can't comprehend and make silly errors that a K-12 pupil wouldn't make, keep quiet.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Most times airdefenses doesn't work that way. They are not what you see in Hollywood movies, they operate by proximity fuse sending numerous shrapnel of various across a 50m radius.
Those shrapnel hitting engines, fuel areas and others is what is responsible for taking down an areal target.

The holes seen on this plane is consistent with airburst system. This is no engine explosion,
The whole back tail end is covered with hundreds of holes of high penetrating projectiles, and engine damage won't give you that.

My initial position is that a traditional Air Defense SAM will destroy that plane and there'll be no survivors.

We have several instances of that happening.

Instead this plane crossed the Caspian Sea and the pilots were able to correct its gyrations, with great difficulties of course, until they were a few kilometers out from the airport.

The two official statements, which might end up being wrong, are the Russians saying the accident was caused by a bird strike and the Kazakhs saying an oxygen cylinder exploded in the plane.

This is a Russian pilot who landed a plane in a cornfield after a bird strike disabled both engines.
https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/aug/16/russipilot-safely-lands-jetliner-disabled-bir/
And you can use Google to see pictures of planes impacted by bird strike.

Of course, nothing can be ruled out, but you can see why normal people wait for investigations to be concluded.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

I repeat, you are a fool. Everything damn rubbish you wrote is based on your own personal speculation which is not in consonance with any of the reported probabilities so far. Read and stop exposing your transparent brain on a public forum.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/azerbaijan-airlines-crash-sparks-speculation-200517076.html

Everything in this report suggests that the plane was most likely shot down as it was mistaken for a Ukrainian drone due to the fact that
1. The place where the crash occured was militarized by Russia.
2. Grozny was currently under attack as at the time of the crash.
3. The plane took a significant detour which in normal circumstances doesn't happen. This points to a GPS jamming.

We might catch cruise and do all sorts here, it's just not your type they are talking about when the word "intelligent" is being used

Buffoon, this is what happens when an Air Defense SAM takes out an airliner.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752
And this by the Americans - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

It destroys the airliner and kills everyone on board.

Any one can speculate but the drones Russia shot down did not crash in Kazakhstan.

And stop typing rubbish!
All three points you just shared are a pile of horsesh*t.

1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not militarized.
2. The Ukrainian drones were shot down over Vladikavkaz in North Ossetia and neighboring Ingushetia. Not in Grozny.
3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. One, the authorities in Grozny informed the pilots of fog. That's why they couldn't land in Grozny. GPS jamming does not automatically lead to detours. This is the NYT quoting an aviation journalist who states this

"According to Andrei Menshenin, an aviation journalist, GPS jamming and spoofing could make piloting uncomfortable but was unlikely to have caused the crash.

“Every day hundreds of planes fly though areas where GPS spoofing is happening,” he said in response to written questions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/25/world/europe/kazakhstan-plane-crash.html

An investigation is underway and we'll learn what happened.
While everyone is patient, you and your Siamese id**t are running around prematurely saying reports already suggest the jet was shot down.

Because you both have single digit IQ, you can't even get your theory and the basic facts right.
You're the special kind of cretin who would still fail an exam despite copying from a straight-A student.
How hard is it to wait? Will you atrophy if you wait a few weeks for a definitive official from the Kazakh authorities?

For the rest of the thread who want clarity on the crash.
The shoot-down theory has its merits.
1. Russia has deployed a new class of Air Defense systems for anti-drone warfare. These systems have smaller warheads that explode in proximity to their targets. When they explode, they release shrapnel.
2. The inward-piercing holes at the rear of the jet are consistent with shrapnel impact.
3. It is speculated that the shrapnels damaged hydraulics and electricals at the rear of the jet that made controlling the jet difficult.

There are lots of questions, which is why every normal person is waiting for an investigation. The jet flew for several more minutes after the accident. They couldn't return to Baku so the pilots made inquiries for any airport close by to make an emergency crash landing. They opted to cross the Caspian Sea to land at a Kazakh airport. And were about a few kilometers out when the crash occurred.

The pilots are heroes.

The rear of the jet is mostly intact, so there'll be definitive conclusion if indeed it was impacted by a Russian system.

-Lord

Gbadebo19:

So, because it's early, we should disregard a statement made by a survivor?
Do you really have anything like matter in your head?

Survivor's is unreliable in this situation.
Bird strikes generally lead to explosions of the engine. Look it up.

The Kazakh authorities confirmed early on that an oxygen tank exploded on board the plane after the bird strike.
A normal person would know an oxygen tank explosion will produce shrapnel. The tank wouldn't just evaporate.

The video of the crash is online for anyone with two brain cells to watch.
The plane at a point went into a steep dive, but the pilots recovered. Then it stalled and then the crash happened.
Air defense would take out that plane in mid air. The details of the crash from the video is consistent with the official narrative that a bird strike caused this incident. The pilots were excellent and they were almost able to get to the runway but the plane just couldn't go any further, likely due to loss of power or some other vital component not functioning properly

That initial dive would have killed almost everyone on board. So the recovery saved dozens of lives.
That would not have been possible if they were hit by an air defense SAM.
You ret**ds should stop prematurely commenting on issues that are beyond your pay grade.

-Lord

bemeruca:


What the guy did was statutory rape, budaatum downplayed it. I called it rape, he said it is not rape.

It is not new, he has a track record of ing groomers. Kids that are groomed end up having sex with adults.

I don't have time to dig up the past but if you can do your research you will find posts where he is ing groomers.

Another thing, budaatum is like a snake, he flip-flops all the time.
Recently you would think he does not hold a stance of ing the castration of minors, the wind has blow the other way so he is sounding like he is against it.

But see this post below
https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/4508641/american-politics-thread-trump-president-elect/3730#122174515

My take on this, particularly the part in bold is that you should have that stuck in a folder or note app for easy reference.
Your accusation is weighty.
If you're going to malign a character, have incontrovertible proof to back up your assertions.

To add, it is possible to make a comment about statutory rape that might on the surface look bad but isn't.
The age cut-off for statutory rape is not uniform across the West.
Budaatum is in the UK. Age of consent there is 16. It's 16 in Canada as well.
In New Zealand, it's 16. But anyone under 20 is legally a minor. So sexual relations with a 19 year old can be described as sex with a minor which is just bleh 🤮.
Heck, in the US. It's 16 in 31 states. 17 in 7, including NY.
In the military, it's 16. Because they recruit 17 year-olds and you would have a statutory rape caseload higher than the Empire State if you set it at 18.
In fact, while federal law in the US pegs it at 18, it doesn't supersede state statues. And in federal law, the age of consent for US nationals who engage in sexual relations outside the US is 16.

I'm not going to reference mainland Europe. It's a madhouse over there. I know it's the law, but really, 14 in is like, "Guys, hold up".

So you see why there might be an issue. Say the right thing in the wrong way and you've got a problem.
You can't just brand a person a pedo without sharing the offending comment they made.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Say that to this crash survivor
“For the third time, something exploded. There was an explosion - I wouldn’t say that it was inside the plane. Where I was sitting, the lining next to me flew off.”

He added that he reached for his life jacket, and there was a hole in it:

“I took the jacket, and I look: there was a hole in the jacket - a piece of shrapnel had pierced it. After this explosion, right between my legs - somewhere there - this piece of shrapnel flew in and hit me. It pierced the jacket right through.”

Or activated Russian Air defense confirmed active in the vicinity of Grozny around same time. Mind you plane was heady Grozny before diverting and landing in Kazakhstan probably after being hit.

It's early but we'll wait the full investigation in the next few days.

Read what you wrote and assess if you're okay upstairs.

Seriously, do it.

After typing crap, you end with "it's early".
Why are exposing your id**cy when you know it is too early and we should wait for full investigation.
Are you trying to win "Id**t of the Year" award before the year wraps up.

-Lord

Simeonjoe1:


Yeah shot down by putin foot soldiers.

Don't worry they are cooking up their damage control which you and WriteerNg will help propagate

How did Russian soldiers shoot down a plane in Kazakhstan?

-Lord

WriteerNg:
⚡Iranian FM:

“Those claiming victory in Syria should wait; many developments lie ahead.”

WriteerNg:
⚡Curfews have been declared in the Syrian cities of Latakia, Jableh and Homs following clashes between remnants of the former regime and security forces.

Iran is showing off.

-Lord

budaatum:

If you want your posts kept out of, post in your private forum where only you read it.

You can not create imaginary lanes to put people into and then ask that your name be kept out of your posts. Or rather, you can ask, but as you can see, request denied.

I am under no legal obligation to entertain your innate incoherency.

It is a polite request.
Get your sh*t together before quoting me.
You can always continue your incoherent rambling as you've done before yesterday as you'll do after today.
Just keep me out of it.

Is that too much to ask, your highness?! /s

-Lord

budaatum:

Thankfully, some conservatives did not wait for what anyone else wanted and condemned Gaetz already.



But I'm very certain they must only have condemned Gaetz because Biden paid them with Obama's money, so perhaps we better not count or notice them.

Congratulations.
You have your token Conservative condemnation.

Why is that not enough for you?

One minute, conservatives excuse statutory rape.
Next minute, conservatives condemn statutory rape.

Pick a lane. Or argue with yourself. IDGAF.
But keep my name out of your posts.

-Lord

Procashtips:


Not with their current leadership

That's true.

But who knows how long the current leadership will remain in power if Turkey bloodies Iran's nose.

Also, a capitulation is probably not on the cards. So any hot conflict will lead to a Treaty.
Both sides will go regroup, then restart hostilities.

Read up on the Ottoman-Persian Wars.

My take on a potential conflict is that it is an academic exercise.
Too much to lose: too little to gain; to make it practical.
The only thing Iran can do is go on the offensive against Turkish interests in Eurasia.
But they already have their hands full with Israel+US+UK.

-Lord

Procashtips:


They truly want to look big.

I have a feeling Iran can best Turkey, but then I can't put my money on the mullahs wearing 10 bedsheets on their heads.

Currently, Turkey has the edge because of their technological advantage.
But if Iran survives the first six months, it's an open question.

Gotta say, it will easily be one of the most evenly-matched wars in modern history.

I too will never put my money on the Mullahs.
They're capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

-Lord

BlueRayDick:


She mentioned something in the link u posted and I think it applies to most people except just few; "...You get used to being happy and rich"

Money is a huge motivational factor in all these kinda "career switch" . It is the same reason a musician will drop out of school . Only few people will leave money and run after PhD; I don't blame people who choose money over PhD.

I used to tell some of my friends that if my parents have half of the kind money Otedola and co have, I don't think I will really take education serious.

I 100% agree with you.

I'm of the opinion tho' that the super-intelligent b*tches that take up sex work would most likely still do it if they were of average intelligence.

Cos' when you listen to them. The money is a nice bonus. But they really enjoy sex work. They seem predisposed to going down that path.

Otherwise, these women have options. Melissa. Dar. Ryan Conner. They would never starve. They wouldn't even struggle.

Dar is doing her PhD in her 20s. She is a bioengineer and graduate of computer science. She has a platform like Cleo Abram who is killing it. Million-dollar income was always in her future.
And these women could always Nicole Shanahan their way to millions. One weekend in San Francisco and Dar will bag a big shot or a rising star looking like that.

I get that the world is an oyster for guys like Bill Ackman, Ryan Serhant, Ryan Reynolds. They could do anything.
But for women like Melissa and Dar. To have limitless potential and then opt for the path with the most stigma so you could be "happy" sure is something. Fascinating characters!

-Lord

cococandy:

I am willing to suss out the answer and can’t deduce its simply as a result of gray areas.
This is why I didn’t want to use specific cases as examples because each case is going to have what makes it different or more heinous than the other, thereby murky up the conversation as a whole. The gravity of what Matt did is not as dire as someone who kidnapped an unwilling child and forced them into sexual acts they didn’t want. It might not even be illegal depending on location.

Those gray areas help people who are for him to use age-of-consent being different in different states or the willingness of the child to make him not such a bad person. But the crux of the issue is, why are they not outrightly disgusted by him instead of finding ways to tell us it wasn’t that bad. Like we know there are levels to it. But why is a technicality the hill they were willing to die on to side with that kind of a morally questionable man?

I said it once. I'll repeat it.
If there was credible evidence that Gaetz did actually commit statutory rape, he'll fade in obscurity.

The threshold for the outright, knee-jerk, totally-natural revulsion to sexual relations with minors is the preponderance of evidence.
The evidence here is murky.
If it wasn't, Gaetz will be looking at significant time in jail and an offender listing.

This is not a "he said, she said" sexual misconduct.
The bar to file a statutory rape charge is low.
Heck, it is against federal law to attempt to coerce a minor to engage in sexual acts through the telephone or internet.
Sexual is not necessary to nail a perp. A text message will do.

Unless you can somehow state with a straight face that Garland saw a slam-dunk opportunity to get Gaetz into an orange jumpsuit and let him go out of the kindness of his heart, I cannot for the life of me understand why you want conservatives to condemn him for apparently committing a very serious criminal offense when he wasn't even indicted by the most motivated crack team of FBI investigators in the last century.

This is not true pls. Let’s not conflate someone being canceled online with the actual justice system. There’s always an investigation and of course consequences based on said investigation. The thing you call “asking questions” is exactly what the justice system does when it’s doing the investigation. (We can talk about certain evils of the justice system at a different time)

But your side calls the investigations witch-hunts. And that’s where the divide comes. The questions y’all often ask is not because you want to get to the truth. It’s usually victim blaming in nature. Almost like they want to prove at all costs that the acc is lying. Which in itself is part of the problem. Because it creates an atmosphere where victims can’t come forward.

Nice try.

Attempting to gaslight me about the #MeToo era. 🙂

"Believe all women" must have been a figment of the imagination.

Maybe in the past I’d believe this. Not in today’s climate though. Anything goes in the MAGA world it seems. And that’s why people of those proclivities tend to your camps. Something tells them they’ll get away with it over there.

I'll readily it MAGA has its fair share of "colorful" characters.
But there's a very visible line.
Statutory rape crosses that line with more than enough room to spare.

-Lord

BlueRayDick:
Career switch ayé! 😲

She abandoned her PhD for OnlyFans

https://gazettengr.com/famous-computer-scientist-zara-dar-abandons-phd-to--porn-site-onlyfans/

She can always get more PhD's when her SMV drops off a cliff.

Her mentor will be Melissa Todd.
Mensa member. 178 IQ. Oxford drop out.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/sex-worker-iq-higher-einstein-33517334

-Lord

liveLongNprospa:
Omo.. PR secured for me, madam and smally.

This year ended great🎉

Now that's a Christmas present.

Big congratulations man!

-Lord

Procashtips:


This man must be sick. If they want to fight Russia, let them come out clean.

A certain is printing currencies of more than 8 countries put together.

The US is controlling the currencies of almost all the countries of the world (Being a base currency), so this man must be an ignoramus to see this as a biggie

Na una wen dey take the Turks serious.

Turkey na lamba central.

After conducting mischief, they start meandering to justify their actions.

-Lord

cococandy:


I’m assuming you mean the Catholic priests who have been found to sexually abuse children? ( No innate bias here as I grew up Catholic. Many of my fond childhood memories were made in the church. I was even in juniorate to become a nun at some point in my life. Long story .)

To answer your question, I don’t know how many conservatives defend those priests. For those of them who do, shame on them. However, I know a lot of conservatives do defend predatory evangelical pastors. Shame on all of them too.

It grinds my gears when people want to “care about kids” as a front for their agenda instead of truly caring about kids. So many of these churches do not ostracize the ministers found wanting. They hide, cover up, transfer and sometimes outrightly them.

If only they could be about the life they claim to be about.

Look who typed out a "long tale". 😉

Well, here's mine. 😊

The Gaetz story is icky. Mucking about in the brackish waters of statutory rape is not my idea of a grand time.
However, it is fair to ask: "Why did the FBI/DOJ investigate this potential serious crime and opt not to press charges"?

Garland charged a POTUS for mishandling classified documents.
He charged a Senator for bribery.
Why did he exercise uncharacteristic prosecutorial discretion for Gaetz?

I doubt you are willing to suss out the answer to that question.
The Gaetz situation is #metoo-esque.
Your side famously does not care about getting into the weeds.
An accusation is enough. That's all you need. It does not have to be valid, credible, or hold up against scrutiny.

Asking Questions = Rape Apologist.
So why bother?

Here's the depraved paradigm that your camp wants to enforce.
Level a serious accusation.
Get up in arms.
Anyone who so much as raise their hands or gives the impression that they're not 100% ive of the lynching gets clobbered as an enabler, apologist, or cultist.

MAGA and the broader conservative camp have iced out personalities before.
If there was credible evidence that Gaetz did actually commit statutory rape, he'll fade in obscurity.
We would know too, because this story has been in the open for more than a year, and the MAGA-verse is a small world.
Diddling is a cardinal sin for the movement. It is not tolerated in any form.
When MAGA turns on a person, it goes all in.
Where is Milo Yiannopoulos today?

Happy holidays!
Warm regards to your fam.

-Lord

cococandy:


They deserve the 100 years in jail. They actually deserve more in my opinion. I loathe child sex abs. They deserve to rot under the prison.

Can you ( or a Republican) say the same when someone you think belongs to your party, team or ideology does the same? Or will it be another cry about how it’s a witch hunt and set up.

I’m not asking you right now to say it about any person you can think of who’s been accused of the same. Because obviously you’ll come up with excuses about why it’s not true and they didn’t do it. I’m asking you if in a hypothetical situation a person who you think belongs to the republican side is found to have sexually abused kids, do you agree they deserve the same sentence?

It’s truly a yes or no question. No long tales needed

How many conservatives defend Catholic priests?

-Lord

airmark:


Name the moniker please?

Seconded.

-Lord

Procashtips:


Including Tesla

Possibly. I don't recommend it though as a long-term buy because it has more consequential headwinds.

-Lord

WrriterNg:



The US would never stop or sanction the Saudis from getting Nukes.

The Saudis would just pull out all their investments from the US. Without Saudi investment, the US is done and dusted.

Look up how Al Thani, the current Emir of Qatar, came to power.

The US will bribe a royal, noble, or one of the generals to seize power and kill the nuclear program.

The leadership in all the Western-aligned ME countries are easy to depose.
Those investments are a double-edged sword.

-Lord

WrriterNg:
⚡Trump’s future National Security Adviser Mike Waltz:

If Iran gets a nuke, the Saudis are going to want a nuke. The Turks are going to want a nuke.

If you ever have nukes going regionally, that is catastrophic for the world.

That may be true, but Pakistan has a nuke.

If the Saudis and Turks want to go through the baptism of fire as Iran and North Korea did to get their nukes, they should go ahead.
I'll wager though that the Saud family and Erdogan will be deposed if they make that turn.

Iran should not be blackmailed to not acquire the ultimate guarantor of its security.
The US just itted to seeking regime change in Iran for the last 30 years. Israel certainly didn't twiddle its thumbs.
The US, Israel, , and UK have tens of thousands of nukes. Heck even Turkey hosts coalition nukes. A few tens or hundreds more is not a compelling argument to dissuade Iran.

-Lord