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Simeonjoe1: My initial position is that a traditional Air Defense SAM will destroy that plane and there'll be no survivors. We have several instances of that happening. Instead this plane crossed the Caspian Sea and the pilots were able to correct its gyrations, with great difficulties of course, until they were a few kilometers out from the airport. The two official statements, which might end up being wrong, are the Russians saying the accident was caused by a bird strike and the Kazakhs saying an oxygen cylinder exploded in the plane. This is a Russian pilot who landed a plane in a cornfield after a bird strike disabled both engines. https://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2019/aug/16/russipilot-safely-lands-jetliner-disabled-bir/ And you can use Google to see pictures of planes impacted by bird strike. Of course, nothing can be ruled out, but you can see why normal people wait for investigations to be concluded. -Lord 2 Likes |
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Gbadebo19: Buffoon, this is what happens when an Air Defense SAM takes out an airliner. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines_Flight_752 And this by the Americans - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 It destroys the airliner and kills everyone on board. Any one can speculate but the drones Russia shot down did not crash in Kazakhstan. And stop typing rubbish! All three points you just shared are a pile of horsesh*t. 1. The plane crashed in Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan is not militarized. 2. The Ukrainian drones were shot down over Vladikavkaz in North Ossetia and neighboring Ingushetia. Not in Grozny. 3. The plane took a detour for several reasons. One, the authorities in Grozny informed the pilots of fog. That's why they couldn't land in Grozny. GPS jamming does not automatically lead to detours. This is the NYT quoting an aviation journalist who states this "According to Andrei Menshenin, an aviation journalist, GPS jamming and spoofing could make piloting uncomfortable but was unlikely to have caused the crash. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/25/world/europe/kazakhstan-plane-crash.html An investigation is underway and we'll learn what happened. While everyone is patient, you and your Siamese id**t are running around prematurely saying reports already suggest the jet was shot down. Because you both have single digit IQ, you can't even get your theory and the basic facts right. You're the special kind of cretin who would still fail an exam despite copying from a straight-A student. How hard is it to wait? Will you atrophy if you wait a few weeks for a definitive official from the Kazakh authorities? For the rest of the thread who want clarity on the crash. The shoot-down theory has its merits. 1. Russia has deployed a new class of Air Defense systems for anti-drone warfare. These systems have smaller warheads that explode in proximity to their targets. When they explode, they release shrapnel. 2. The inward-piercing holes at the rear of the jet are consistent with shrapnel impact. 3. It is speculated that the shrapnels damaged hydraulics and electricals at the rear of the jet that made controlling the jet difficult. There are lots of questions, which is why every normal person is waiting for an investigation. The jet flew for several more minutes after the accident. They couldn't return to Baku so the pilots made inquiries for any airport close by to make an emergency crash landing. They opted to cross the Caspian Sea to land at a Kazakh airport. And were about a few kilometers out when the crash occurred. The pilots are heroes. The rear of the jet is mostly intact, so there'll be definitive conclusion if indeed it was impacted by a Russian system. -Lord 2 Likes |
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Gbadebo19: Survivor's is unreliable in this situation. Bird strikes generally lead to explosions of the engine. Look it up. The Kazakh authorities confirmed early on that an oxygen tank exploded on board the plane after the bird strike. A normal person would know an oxygen tank explosion will produce shrapnel. The tank wouldn't just evaporate. The video of the crash is online for anyone with two brain cells to watch. The plane at a point went into a steep dive, but the pilots recovered. Then it stalled and then the crash happened. Air defense would take out that plane in mid air. The details of the crash from the video is consistent with the official narrative that a bird strike caused this incident. The pilots were excellent and they were almost able to get to the runway but the plane just couldn't go any further, likely due to loss of power or some other vital component not functioning properly That initial dive would have killed almost everyone on board. So the recovery saved dozens of lives. That would not have been possible if they were hit by an air defense SAM. You ret**ds should stop prematurely commenting on issues that are beyond your pay grade. -Lord 11 Likes 2 Shares |
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bemeruca: My take on this, particularly the part in bold is that you should have that stuck in a folder or note app for easy reference. Your accusation is weighty. If you're going to malign a character, have incontrovertible proof to back up your assertions. To add, it is possible to make a comment about statutory rape that might on the surface look bad but isn't. The age cut-off for statutory rape is not uniform across the West. Budaatum is in the UK. Age of consent there is 16. It's 16 in Canada as well. In New Zealand, it's 16. But anyone under 20 is legally a minor. So sexual relations with a 19 year old can be described as sex with a minor which is just bleh 🤮. Heck, in the US. It's 16 in 31 states. 17 in 7, including NY. In the military, it's 16. Because they recruit 17 year-olds and you would have a statutory rape caseload higher than the Empire State if you set it at 18. In fact, while federal law in the US pegs it at 18, it doesn't supersede state statues. And in federal law, the age of consent for US nationals who engage in sexual relations outside the US is 16. I'm not going to reference mainland Europe. It's a madhouse over there. I know it's the law, but really, 14 in is like, "Guys, hold up". So you see why there might be an issue. Say the right thing in the wrong way and you've got a problem. You can't just brand a person a pedo without sharing the offending comment they made. -Lord 3 Likes 1 Share |
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Simeonjoe1: Read what you wrote and assess if you're okay upstairs. Seriously, do it. After typing crap, you end with "it's early". Why are exposing your id**cy when you know it is too early and we should wait for full investigation. Are you trying to win "Id**t of the Year" award before the year wraps up. -Lord 12 Likes 3 Shares |
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Simeonjoe1: How did Russian soldiers shoot down a plane in Kazakhstan? -Lord 8 Likes 2 Shares |
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WriteerNg: WriteerNg: Iran is showing off. -Lord 2 Likes |
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budaatum: I am under no legal obligation to entertain your innate incoherency. It is a polite request. Get your sh*t together before quoting me. You can always continue your incoherent rambling as you've done before yesterday as you'll do after today. Just keep me out of it. Is that too much to ask, your highness?! /s -Lord 1 Like |
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budaatum: Congratulations. You have your token Conservative condemnation. Why is that not enough for you? One minute, conservatives excuse statutory rape. Next minute, conservatives condemn statutory rape. Pick a lane. Or argue with yourself. IDGAF. But keep my name out of your posts. -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: That's true. But who knows how long the current leadership will remain in power if Turkey bloodies Iran's nose. Also, a capitulation is probably not on the cards. So any hot conflict will lead to a Treaty. Both sides will go regroup, then restart hostilities. Read up on the Ottoman-Persian Wars. My take on a potential conflict is that it is an academic exercise. Too much to lose: too little to gain; to make it practical. The only thing Iran can do is go on the offensive against Turkish interests in Eurasia. But they already have their hands full with Israel+US+UK. -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: Currently, Turkey has the edge because of their technological advantage. But if Iran survives the first six months, it's an open question. Gotta say, it will easily be one of the most evenly-matched wars in modern history. I too will never put my money on the Mullahs. They're capable of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. -Lord 2 Likes 1 Share |
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BlueRayDick: I 100% agree with you. I'm of the opinion tho' that the super-intelligent b*tches that take up sex work would most likely still do it if they were of average intelligence. Cos' when you listen to them. The money is a nice bonus. But they really enjoy sex work. They seem predisposed to going down that path. Otherwise, these women have options. Melissa. Dar. Ryan Conner. They would never starve. They wouldn't even struggle. Dar is doing her PhD in her 20s. She is a bioengineer and graduate of computer science. She has a platform like Cleo Abram who is killing it. Million-dollar income was always in her future. And these women could always Nicole Shanahan their way to millions. One weekend in San Francisco and Dar will bag a big shot or a rising star looking like that. I get that the world is an oyster for guys like Bill Ackman, Ryan Serhant, Ryan Reynolds. They could do anything. But for women like Melissa and Dar. To have limitless potential and then opt for the path with the most stigma so you could be "happy" sure is something. Fascinating characters! -Lord 2 Likes 1 Share |
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cococandy: I said it once. I'll repeat it. If there was credible evidence that Gaetz did actually commit statutory rape, he'll fade in obscurity. The threshold for the outright, knee-jerk, totally-natural revulsion to sexual relations with minors is the preponderance of evidence. The evidence here is murky. If it wasn't, Gaetz will be looking at significant time in jail and an offender listing. This is not a "he said, she said" sexual misconduct. The bar to file a statutory rape charge is low. Heck, it is against federal law to attempt to coerce a minor to engage in sexual acts through the telephone or internet. Sexual is not necessary to nail a perp. A text message will do. Unless you can somehow state with a straight face that Garland saw a slam-dunk opportunity to get Gaetz into an orange jumpsuit and let him go out of the kindness of his heart, I cannot for the life of me understand why you want conservatives to condemn him for apparently committing a very serious criminal offense when he wasn't even indicted by the most motivated crack team of FBI investigators in the last century. This is not true pls. Let’s not conflate someone being canceled online with the actual justice system. There’s always an investigation and of course consequences based on said investigation. The thing you call “asking questions” is exactly what the justice system does when it’s doing the investigation. (We can talk about certain evils of the justice system at a different time) Nice try. Attempting to gaslight me about the #MeToo era. 🙂 "Believe all women" must have been a figment of the imagination. Maybe in the past I’d believe this. Not in today’s climate though. Anything goes in the MAGA world it seems. And that’s why people of those proclivities tend to your camps. Something tells them they’ll get away with it over there. I'll readily it MAGA has its fair share of "colorful" characters. But there's a very visible line. Statutory rape crosses that line with more than enough room to spare. -Lord |
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BlueRayDick: She can always get more PhD's when her SMV drops off a cliff. Her mentor will be Melissa Todd. Mensa member. 178 IQ. Oxford drop out. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/sex-worker-iq-higher-einstein-33517334 -Lord |
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liveLongNprospa: Now that's a Christmas present. Big congratulations man! -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: Na una wen dey take the Turks serious. Turkey na lamba central. After conducting mischief, they start meandering to justify their actions. -Lord 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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cococandy: Look who typed out a "long tale". 😉 Well, here's mine. 😊 The Gaetz story is icky. Mucking about in the brackish waters of statutory rape is not my idea of a grand time. However, it is fair to ask: "Why did the FBI/DOJ investigate this potential serious crime and opt not to press charges"? Garland charged a POTUS for mishandling classified documents. He charged a Senator for bribery. Why did he exercise uncharacteristic prosecutorial discretion for Gaetz? I doubt you are willing to suss out the answer to that question. The Gaetz situation is #metoo-esque. Your side famously does not care about getting into the weeds. An accusation is enough. That's all you need. It does not have to be valid, credible, or hold up against scrutiny. Asking Questions = Rape Apologist. So why bother? Here's the depraved paradigm that your camp wants to enforce. Level a serious accusation. Get up in arms. Anyone who so much as raise their hands or gives the impression that they're not 100% ive of the lynching gets clobbered as an enabler, apologist, or cultist. MAGA and the broader conservative camp have iced out personalities before. If there was credible evidence that Gaetz did actually commit statutory rape, he'll fade in obscurity. We would know too, because this story has been in the open for more than a year, and the MAGA-verse is a small world. Diddling is a cardinal sin for the movement. It is not tolerated in any form. When MAGA turns on a person, it goes all in. Where is Milo Yiannopoulos today? Happy holidays! Warm regards to your fam. -Lord 1 Like 1 Share |
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cococandy: How many conservatives defend Catholic priests? -Lord 1 Like |
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Procashtips: Possibly. I don't recommend it though as a long-term buy because it has more consequential headwinds. -Lord |
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WrriterNg: Look up how Al Thani, the current Emir of Qatar, came to power. The US will bribe a royal, noble, or one of the generals to seize power and kill the nuclear program. The leadership in all the Western-aligned ME countries are easy to depose. Those investments are a double-edged sword. -Lord 6 Likes 3 Shares |
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WrriterNg: That may be true, but Pakistan has a nuke. If the Saudis and Turks want to go through the baptism of fire as Iran and North Korea did to get their nukes, they should go ahead. I'll wager though that the Saud family and Erdogan will be deposed if they make that turn. Iran should not be blackmailed to not acquire the ultimate guarantor of its security. The US just itted to seeking regime change in Iran for the last 30 years. Israel certainly didn't twiddle its thumbs. The US, Israel, , and UK have tens of thousands of nukes. Heck even Turkey hosts coalition nukes. A few tens or hundreds more is not a compelling argument to dissuade Iran. -Lord 7 Likes 3 Shares |
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GloriousGbola: , Clinton won election in 1992. 1992 to 2024 is 32 years. With the exception of Bush whose primary identity is that he's neocon and Trump's first term where he was hamstrung every step of the way, it's been 3 decades of the neoliberals dominating the planet. What is their scorecard? I don't like what's on the scorecard. I know you and several others on this thread do. But I don't. America is never static. She evolves. No dominant wing stays in control in perpetuity. Neoliberalism has had its time in the sun. It's time for a shuffling of the cards. If the hegemon weakens because of a non-violent change in guards, so be it. But history makes a different suggestion. When America steps on a new rung on the ladder, it habitually gets stronger, not weaker. The demise of the federalists, whigs, social liberals did not "weaken" America. It's not like they're going away permanently. They've been repudiated but could very well come back strongly as early as 2028, optimistically with a refreshing take on things. MAGA 2.0 is about controlling debt; improving efficiency; rewriting the regulatory dogma to solidify American leadership in next-gen technologies--AI, space, robotics, autonomous mobility, crypto, nuclear fusion...; improving health outcomes; reworking the immigration policy that favors the illegal, law-breaking variant; recalibrating American foreign militaristic posture; hitting reset on American economic relations with both foes and friends alike. The last two are long overdue as they've been driven by a set of axioms established in the cold war that is past its use by date. If a CEO came to you as a Chairman of the Board with such a radical proposal, you'd give him a Tesla-esque performance-based compensation package and a "when do we start" quip. This is an empire, or at least a segment of the empire, conducting orderly, organic spring housecleaning. You, bless your heart, are being blinded by inertia. I'm not. China had its own spring cleaning with Deng Xiaoping. Russia had its with Putin. In 2100, America will still be one of the top 3 economies. Its only competition are China and India. LOL. The positive is that as America puts its wares in the washer, sensible countries in the Global South can use the opportunity to forge alliances, deepen cooperation, and help modulate a new global order with far more tangible benefits for the Global South than in the current regime. Historically, momentous events of this nature occur only after expansive bloody wars with untold loss of lives, and we do have some wars going on in the background, but it could be so much worse. This is one of those rare opportunities in history where there's potential for wins of some form for all players involved. You make your own luck. America is not leaving anything to chance. Nor should anyone else. On a renewed war on drugs. A military campaign is being discussed. An approval is a quite ways out. It is clear that something has to be done. Particularly about the fentanyl deaths and cartel capture of a country on the US border. There's a wide breadth of options on the table, including military options. I don't expect there to be a guns blazing Iraqi Desert Storm/Fall of Baghdad without some other levers being pulled. That'll be incredibly st*pid. It's not like the US has not take boneheaded actions before, but that's not the only option on the table. We should not pretend that it is. -Lord 3 Likes |
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obedience4: History is cyclical. Israel just took part of Syria. Russia took part of Ukraine. If the US takes part of Panama, folks would only complain. In Mexico, the plan is not to annex part of the country. It's to trim the hedges of paramilitary organizations that have essentially transformed Mexico into a Narco state. To put this in perspective, China has been in a tug of war with criminal organizations running large cyber-crime operations in Cambodia, Myanmar, and Laos targeting Chinese. They set a temporary "border control zone" last year. And have been playing both side of the rebel-Junta conflict in Myanmar. They're now considering sending PMCs (their Wagner) to Myanmar. The CIA has been adding embers to this scuffle to entrap China. If there were several criminal organizations smuggling in fentanyl killing tens of thousands every year in Russia or China from a neighboring country, they'll not sit still. The US has exercised remarkable restraint regarding the cartels. -Lord 2 Likes |
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GloriousGbola: Every POTUS is cursed to intervene somewhere. Thankfully, this one plans to get busy in the Western Hemisphere. Let them get a dose of the daily realities of other regions. @izzou. Yes, Trump can take the canal. I'm not sure he can keep it though. Carter handed it over because it was becoming a hot potato. Odds are he is using this as a bludgeon to get more favorable from the Panamanians. But it's certainly a possibility that he could take it, then make the far harder task of maintaining control the problem of the next istrations. He only has four years. On Mexico, someone has to take the blame for the 70,000/yr fentanyl fatalities. They're at the limit with China. Can't do more than economic sanctions. So the Cartels are on the menu. Also, the Cartels are becoming really powerful in Southern US--parts of Arizona, Texas, New Mexico. You'll never know. Many think there is a window to cut them to size that is slipping out of grasp. If you really wanted to go after the cartels, ten years ago was better than five years ago. Two years ago was better than five years ago. If an El Padrino comes on the scene, you'll essentially have a richer, more sophisticated, larger, and better-armed Hezbollah or Taliban right on the Southern Border without the Islamic undertones. Lastly, most Trump's positions are not just musings of a geriatric off his rocker. It may appear that way but there are powerful US interest groups feeding these into his ear and to-do list. There are factions in the Pentagon and business community who want the Panama Canal. Factions in HS, DEA, and DOJ want major military action against the cartels. TMTG (his media company) bought Bakkt (a crypto trading firm) after his election. His flip on crypto has capitalist, profit-driven motivations. The US crypto bros want him to get the crypto-sceptics out of the way and help set the ball rolling for the crypto industry to become a future $10-15T industry. His family will get in on the action and the next generation Trumps will enjoy the windfall in the billions. America is all about interests. Both parties do it. The Dems have their clean energy/climate change, DEI/feminist/lgbtq+, think tank/civil society/welfare and several other complexes ranging in size. Trillion and billion dollar industries created from scratch. My for Trump harkens back to first principles. There cannot be a singular dominant force. There must be balance. -Lord 3 Likes 1 Share |
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WrriterNg: The sleeper issue that could cause this quagmire is actually in NA. Mexico and its cartels are a big bad wolf to the MAGA movement. There is a risk of a limited incursion or US government-sanctioned operation in Mexico under Trump. It's not a certainty. Not highly likely either. Just higher than the zero risk under a Dem POTUS. -Lord 4 Likes 2 Shares |
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When you guys are done with your pissing contest, to add Alphabet [NASDAQ: GOOG] to your portfolio. That's your inflation-tracking, 401K, this generation's Exxon stock. If you're buying BTC because you expect it'll hit 250, you should absolutely buy Alphabet because the sky is its limit. It'll primarily be affected by a broader market downturn. Otherwise it's riding wave crests. Buy when it has sustained dips, as in early March and September this year. -Lord 4 Likes 1 Share |
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WriteerNg: The Houthis worded their statement in an interesting way. It suggests the F-18 was shot down in the melee amongst the US forces while defending against the Houthi attack on their fleet. Essentially, while attempting to take down Houthi drones attacking the fleet, one of the ships shot a friendly ing the effort. That's believable. -Lord 6 Likes 3 Shares |
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WrriterNg: No one is fighting a hot war over Greenland. The US will get it if they insisted. But they'll have to make a deal His Majesty cannot refuse. I'm not sure the US can put together a deal that the King of Denmark will readily accept. Maybe a 30 year lease with a balloon payment up front, annual payments to His Majesty's treasury, and a floor on an annual budget for the island, infrastructure, and its residents. -Lord 2 Likes 1 Share |
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WrriterNg: Mask off moment. This may be a subtle reason why he is on board settling the Ukraine war with loss of territory. Dude has his own expansion plans. Always an angle. Not that I'm complaining nor care. Joked with Canada. Sounding serious about the Panama Canal and Greenland. What will be his casus belli. His reasons so far aren't up to snuff. -Lord 7 Likes 1 Share |
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WrriterNg: I saw past commentary about what should be done about ex SAA soldiers. Having a fraction of them on a payroll is very valuable. It is also viable because funds formerly used to subsidize Assad's regime can be redirected to them. The harder task is hatching out an objective and creating a self-sustaining enclave for them. If they come out boldly against the terrorists, it'll actually be a lifeline for the terrorists as the SAA guys will be blamed for the terrorist regime's inadequacies. inflation rises, it'll be the neo-SAA fault. If there's gasoline shortage, it'll be the neo-SAA fault. Can't pay salaries, you get the point... A large section of Syrians are still in a honeymoon phase with the terrorists, they'll readily lap up these excuses and say the Assads and Iran did not give the terrorists a fair chance to implement their vision, whatever that is. A neo-SAA will likely also be an undefended target for Israeli air strikes. So I guess the best course of action is to prep ex-SAA forces. Organize them into cells. Fund them clandestinely. Use them as a Resistance proxy in Syria. Carry out sporadic attacks to weaken the terrorist regime. Then wait for a spark. The Axis must have a force ready to enforce its dictates when the opportunity arises. I really couldn't care less about Joulani. He is an avatar who will not be missed if he dies or is deposed. -Lord 5 Likes 2 Shares |
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Some time in the last 48 hours, ex SAA soldiers neutralized HTS terrorists around Damascus. Second operation after the first in Latakia. One time is an anomaly. Two times is a coincidence. Three times is a pattern. HTS outlets are blaming UAE and Maher al Assad (he is close to UAE, used to be fervently pro-Iran) for the Damascus protests. Iran demand HTS arrest and prosecute the killers of an embassy staff (the staff is Syrian) who died after his car was shot at a week ago. I guess the party is getting started. -Lord 6 Likes 3 Shares |
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