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oyelude f: a true man of God will not condone sin in d church, he will emphasize holiness witot which no one can see God. Tithing remains a divine principle for biblical prosperity.

If I open a new church tommorrow,(I am not anointed by anyone. Just my choice). it grows, you are invited. It then becomes your church. I demand your tithes, you give it to me. How do you even know that I was a true mog in the 1st place. Do you often enquire of that

Religion and atheism should be kept personal

InesQor: Being an atheist is okay.
Being an atheist but intolerantly shaming religions and spirituality as silly / unreal is not okay.

Being a Christian is okay.
Being homophobic, misogynistic, racist or an otherwise hateful person in the name of Christianity is not okay.

Being a reindeer is okay.
Bullying and debarring another reindeer because he has a shiny red nose is not okay.

Etc.

100 likes for you.
I believe that religion is not bad and also atheists should stfu

Lets stop all these merry go round
- Atheism is dealling with the apparent and obvious ie proovable.
-Religion is taking a very understandable leap from a proposition to a strong assertion.
Its understandable.

Yes,

I often hear the clause"dont judge".
If I one day get loan from the bank, open a church and claim to be a man of God. How do you know if I am sincere when you are not to judge me?
Also, what if I am good at motivational gospels and interesting services and moving crowds, my church expands, then I also demand for tithes, How do you know if I am a true, when you are not to judge me?
How do you know if your tithe collector- one who takes 10% of your hard earned earnings- is a true mog?

@ Bidam
Are you feeling honest in your conscience while posting all these?

jedisco: I don't think you need to an app. But this may be limited to Samsung Touchwiz.

All you need do is go to Settings>Connections>Data usage. Click on WhatsApp and tick the restrict background data.
This way, WhatsApp only works when you open the app. This and can be done for any other app especially those that gulp data alot in the background.

simple!!!

cant you simply disable background data?

truthislight:

Cool, that is the rational thing to do.



Now, how do you think we can explain to the fishes in the water as to how come we humans stay out of water and keep living ?

Lets start with that ^ simple one first that we can see.

If you feel that the fish capacity for now cannot comprehend it for now, is it also possible that there are things we cannot dicipher for now ?

But that does not stop the fishes from continuing their life even though they cannot comprehend it.

Does their inability and lack of comprehension means that humans cannot live out of water ? How can ? No naw!

Why then should ours lead to such conclusion ?

The evidence says the complexity around us cannot come by chance.

1. The atmosphere around us to keep the oxygen withing and burn off harmful objects heading to smarsh the earth.

2. The rotating of the earth to prevent the earth from becoming extreme in temperature:
facing the sun constantly > that part will become too hot and burns off all life.

3. Backing the sun constantly, that side will froze and kill of all life.

4. The magnetic field from the earth core that serves as a shield, shielding off harmful radiation from the sun and others from getting to the earth and killing life.

5. The self restoring Ozone layer that does the obviouse.

6. The oxygen and carbondioxide circle. (just imagine we had to buy oxygen, and where will you be storing your waste carbondioxide ?)

7. The water circle and characteristics of water ? Smh.

8. The DNA ?

9. The activities of living cell ? (a complete megga factory).

10. The human brain simply incomprehensible!!!!

11. Etc ..............too many to mention.

Charity begins at home ^ indeed.

*Editted*

If I say that I did not ponder on this, then I am lying. I get your point. But if there is ony the xtian god overseeing everything in the earth, then there will not be religions. I mean, there will not generations of dead moslems/pagans/hindus and the rest
You get me?

ezme: "Living is filled with many uncertainties. With twists. Things go right now. And wrong the next minute. Plus humans are inherently terrible to one another. Most of the time, to serve a selfish end.

I think about it. We all need a 'God'. The 'God' concept is more than religious. In fact, it has nothing to do with religion. In my mind, religion merely hijacked and corrupted the idea.

I was in church today for the first time this year. I honoured an invitation. I could understand the energy. God is meant to give us hope. A reason to carry on. Otherwise, life will be hell-er for most people.

If you think you don't need a 'God', perhaps you are smart enough to figure out everything. Its totally fine but don't push it on everyone. Life is too crazy for most people and they need a 'God' to hold on to. They need a 'God' for justice. 'God' is hope to most people. Please don't take that away from people.

More likely than not, bible stories are fables. And inconsistent with science and history. Yes, I agree. But how do you want people to reconcile most of everything?! Forget your logic and pursue what matters. Pursue goodness. Lend a hand. There is too little time to try to hack the existence of 'God'. 'God' represents many things to people. It will be unfair to take that away. Visit a church and listen to testimonies, then you will relate.

And more importantly, if you are a church/mosque leader. Don't take advantage of people who come to you for hope. It is the most cruel thing ever. A woman today made a testimony of almost losing a child. She was probably poor.

My concept of 'God' has nothing to do with an age-long myth. It has nothing to do with expecting a miracle without work. Or stupidly enriching some pastors. Far from it. But I totally understand anyone who is involved in any of these. 'God' is perhaps, the only force that can only hold man together. It is the best invention ever. Religion only made a mess of it.

Happy sunday and have a great week ahead. Plus God bless you abundantly. And if you can, please be good to the next guy for no reason. You might be what he needs to carry on. It is always easier and cheaper than evil."

- S.M.A

I am beginning to see very understanding folks here. This is just what I feel.
Religion is useful, as far as it brings no harm, but it should be kept PERSONAL.

NativeBoy:

Please don't think that you're the only one who scrutinizes their faith. I do as well. But I have come to know that Jesus is truth. And many others have as well. There are many atheists who at one time held your position and they came to faith in Christ. You'd have to ask why fishermen would sign up to be ostracized and die horrible deaths over "tales" even after they've been beaten, tortured, and warned to desist over and over. What earthly gain did they receive by propagating Christ?

The same way "true" moslems have come to realize that jesus was a prophet.
Its all in your mind.

Nigellus_Hosan:




Who insulted U
Can't u let thingz be..
Must u respond to every comment..

Whats the meaning of "olooribooroko"?
That you are of low esteem and are used taking insults here on NL, doesnt mean everyone is okay with it

Nigellus_Hosan:





U're not obligated to pay tithes n offerings..
Nobody would jack ur clothes...



The poor widow paid her last dime..
U probably didn't read that..

Give unto God what belongs to him n unto Caesar wat belongs to him..


If after reading d whole bible
n u can't change..
Who can change u..

Whats doing dis one?

what is funny?
I am not here to debate tithes.
It you conscience that caused you to lay emphasis on that.

The bible is mostly all about cherrypicking of verses from an already preset mindset
Get the main point
Get the main point.

@ deepsight
I ve been wanting to have a lil conv with you.
Maybe at a later time.

Nigellus_Hosan:





there are sins which cannot be forgiven at all..



When u ruthlessly kill somebody in ur right mind..

U urself go know say God no go fit forgive u..
Because the blood of the innocent will rise up from the ground n cry against u in Judgement..



Someone like Hitler praying for God to forgive am..


U forget that the devil will also com n state reasons why u shouldn't b forgiven..


Wen next u want to gbagaun think first..



Oloriboorookoo..

My mistake.
I did not read completely before my previous reply.

- Are you holier than hitler?
- What is all his devil talk? I find it hard to communicate with you guys when you begin to bring up stupid and unprovable assertions.
- why cant god not kill the devil/lock him up at least so that we, his creation will have one less thing to worry about?
- what do you mean by "gbagaun"? did I make a mistake anywhere, if I did, pls correct me.
Finally, why insult me?, my previous post wasnt directed to you

Nigellus_Hosan:





there are sins which cannot be forgiven at all..



When u ruthlessly kill somebody in ur right mind..

U urself go know say God no go fit forgive u..
Because the blood of the innocent will rise up from the ground n cry against u in Judgement..



Someone like Hitler praying for God to forgive am..


U forget that the devil will also com n state reasons why u shouldn't b forgiven..


Wen next u want to gbagaun think first..



Oloriboorookoo..

Just to show that your morality is not solely from the bible.
I read the bible well you know, and looking at it objectively, its easy to tell that most of what you put there is from your common sense.
I know that you can prove its biblical, but only with a preset mindset of what you know is good, then scanning through the numerous verses of the bible and selecting a few verse that conforms with your views. Infact, thats how tithing was invented.

Logicboy03:


This is the kind of mindset that only religious brainwashing can do.

-Studies show that atheists are actually more knowledgeable than theists/religious people when it comes to religious knowledge
-Studies show that secular countries are generally more peaceful than religious ones
-Studies show that christians are more likely to hold racist views than non-religious people
-Christians divorce more than atheist


People commit genocides despite believing in God. Morality is not a function of God or religion. People like you can not see facts before your own eyes. Atheists have no reason to do good, as you believe. Do you as a christian have any reason to do good? Afterall, your bible tells you to do evil.....slavery is accepted, subjugation of women in churches, murder/discrimination against gays.....all in the bible. Think before you talj

For a second thought. The idea of forgiveness and not judging our fellow man is even more ridiculous.
Christianity tells us not to judge. If not for the secular laws which ware under, people will be committing crimes because using the bible objectively, we have been told not to judge. So one can commit mass genocide, and go freeely, and lucky enough, while on the death bed, all you need to do is confess and give your life to christ, be born again. No purnishment for offences and another round of eternal happiness in heaven. So silly.