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Evangkatsoulis: 10:20pm On Jan 16, 2019
Corrosiveman:

RONALDO FAN BOYS SAYING HE PLAYED AS A MIDFIELDER IS A BIG FAT LIE

my point is that although KAKA won the uefa best forward in 2007 he was an attacking MIDFIELDER in ancelotti's 4-3-1-2 and 4-3-2-1 formation.
Ronaldo was clearly a midfielder in ferguson's 4-5-1 and 4-4-2 formations, unless you do not know the meaning of a midfielder.

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Evangkatsoulis: 9:45pm On Jan 16, 2019
Corrosiveman:
For some people saying Ronaldo was a midfielder in 2008 he won the best forward award......Dont let hate kill you
kaka won the best forward award in 2007 while playing as an attacking midfielder for ac milan.
Evangkatsoulis: 9:43pm On Jan 16, 2019
Airhuncho:

He was never a midfielder.
obviously you don't know who a midfielder is.
Evangkatsoulis: 8:14pm On Jan 16, 2019
jomoh:


Did you read my first line at all.


The club Real Madrid will outlive any fan.

In 60years time, most of the videos you see today will be outdated and the visibility will be poor.

The kids then will hear his name but won’t have enough materials to really know who he really was. No matter how sharp your memory is, there are some characteristics of Ronaldo that you can never describe. There are some interesting things about his personal and professional life that you can’t tell people.

In that 60years, if the club choose to tell you he was a paedophile or a drunk or a rapist. It’s only the club that has files and materials about who he really is.


So if the erase it now, they may choose to replace it with a damaging one.

we already have videos in 1080p and 4k, visibilty can never be poor!
Evangkatsoulis: 8:10pm On Jan 16, 2019
jomoh:


Unfortunately the club will outlive any Ronaldo fan.

Eventually, websites hosting articles on him will expire and go offline.

Future websites will have to make a request to the club Real Madrid but they will decline. They will find solace in associations like FIFA, UEFA, LA LIGA etc but none of them will have the kind of material that Real Madrid have.

He had his greatest impact on world football at Real Madrid and by the time his records are erased, he would have been relegated in the history of football.

Future generations will only hear of a brilliant footballer that played the game in the early 2000s but won’t have enough materials to see his talent.

not true. La liga has video recordings of all his games, Uefa too has recordings of all his games. So e wan take loss?
Evangkatsoulis: 8:05pm On Jan 16, 2019
Corrosiveman:
El classico
what did messi do at 19 that madrid could not do since 1994?
Evangkatsoulis: 7:57pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
big fat lie.

Ferguson used a front trio of Ronaldo Van Nistelroy and Rooney a whole lot of times.

It's a shame he played 152 more games with only 36 more goals.

oya show the games he played 433
Evangkatsoulis: 7:54pm On Jan 15, 2019
oboy81:
Very true
Any Football lover From day one Will know the Nigga can Ball exceptionally well better than Cr7
ball motor. Ronaldo is/was more skillful and way faster than this overrated chump.

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Evangkatsoulis: 7:51pm On Jan 15, 2019
Oeworldbest1:

This guy is aswear. You saw all his career goals? SMH. Winning an argument is not a life achievement. You are ignorantly ignorant

lol, beckham scored 85 official goals for united, 20 goals for madrid, 20? for LA galaxy, 2 for ac milan! 0 for psg and about 17 for England.
So dude I watched all his goals, they were not much.
Evangkatsoulis: 7:46pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
So you have never heard of a 4-4-2 which switches into a 4-3-3 from time to time?
Your football knowledge is limited.

You think these formations are cast in stone?
So you don't know that in the course of a game formations so change?
Tweaks are made?

Ronaldo was known for his runs and step overs in the final attacking third at man u.
that was his trade mark.
more than enough opportunities to get him goals;
no excuses!

Messi played as a right winger from 2005 to 2008.
Messi played as a false 9 from 2009 to 2012.
Messi played as a right winger/ midfielder from 2013 to 2019.

Ronaldo played as a left winger/left attacking midfielder from 2002 to 2008.
Ronaldo played as a right winger/striker from 2009 to 2019.

They have played in positions very very very fair enough to compare their goals and assists.

No Excuses, No lies!




A perfect example;

2009 champions league final line up:

Manchester United played a 4-3-3 formation.


4 - 3 - 3.

Park - Rooney - Ronaldo
Anderson - Carrick - Giggs
Oshea - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra


Stop lying and making excuses!

4-3-3 and 4-4-2 do not have space for attacking midfielders.
Ronaldo playing as as forward for united were exceptions rather than the norm. Park and Ronaldo played as forwards may be due to injuries or other problems with berbatov and tevez so 433 was probably the other suitable formation with available players. Sometimes formation is shaped by the avilable players and type of opponents.
Ferguson certainly used 442 more than 90% of the time with Ronaldo as a midfielder and nistelrooy, rooney, saha, berbatov and tevez as forwards.
Evangkatsoulis: 6:53pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
lol,

You're just so pathetic!

So the narrative you want to press now is that Ronaldo played as a midfielder?
You want to tell us he wasn't playing as an attacking winger in Alex Fergusson' s line up?

Stop lying to save face.
Ronaldo has never played away from the final third be it at man u or madrid.
At madrid he became a penalty box player.
All his career he has played closer to the goal than Messi.
He should have better goal stats than Messi.
But he just isn't as good!

Ronaldo is now a midfielder?
Hehehehehe.
I am sure the goal stats I posted are very well embarrassing.
You have to resort to telling bare-faced lies!


But still,
That should never be an excuse for getting only 36 more goals to Messi in 152 more games?

Abeg just cover your face in shame jare'

You have no argument.

between me and you, who is posting false information. So posting youtube thumbnails is a proof of anything. You get brain at all?
Yes, Ronaldo started as a midfielder. Plain 442 formation has no space for attacking midfieders. They only exist in 4231,4312,4321 formations. So ronaldo played as a left/right midfielder in a four-man midfield which is much deeper than right attacking midfielder or any forward position whatsoever.
Evangkatsoulis: 6:15pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
I think am this back and forth!

Ronaldo is a penalty box footballer! PERIOD!



BY THE WAY

You have succeeded in ducking the main point of this argument but I won't let you!

Call it LAM ooh
RAM ooh
Whatever!

Nothing and I repeat Nothing is excuse enough for Ronaldo having played 152 more games than Messi but only scoring 36 goals more.

You're now clutching on straws!

It's simply a very big gulf in class.

No explanation or excuses can for 152 more games with just 36 more goals.

Even as the midfielder you call him and he still has fewer career assists than Messi.

Enough with the excuses.

Sock it in!
Again, your comparison is only valid if and only if they both played as forwards all their careers, which isn't true.
And if you are counting by OPTA's definition of assists forwards get more assists that midfielders.
BTW opta states assists, keyes are heavily dependent on performance of the shot takers not the ers. So assist is just am EVENT DATA not a PERFORMANCE DATA(which should be used to compare players, learn the difference)
Evangkatsoulis: 5:38pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
2002 to 2008 Ronaldo was a right winger/right forward who cut into the box and get goals.

2005 to 2008 Messi was a left winger/left forward who cut into the box and get goals.


2009 to 2018 Ronaldo was a left sided forward who always drifted to the 18 yard box and choke Benzema's/Higuain's space.

Anybody who does not know that Ronaldo was always running into Benzema's space as the striker, is either naive or ignorant.

Undersabi.
A winger is defined as a NON-DEFENDER who plays primarily at the left/right flanks!
A winger can be a Left/Right Midfielder(LM/RM), a left/right attacking midfielder(LAM/RAM), or a left/right wing forward(LWF/RWF).
So basically a winger can either be a midfieldere or a forward.
Ronaldo played as LM/RM in ferguson's 4-4-2 and as LAM/RAM in pellegrini/mourinho's 4-2-3-1 before becoming a LWF in ancelotti's 4-3-3.
Messi on the other hand started as LWF to a RWF under riijkaard's 433 and 3-4-3 then a CF in guardiola's 4-3-3.
And pls don't get me started on his false 9 role. Your role is limited by your postion.

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Evangkatsoulis: 5:20pm On Jan 15, 2019
Oeworldbest1:

Ode Beckham bent it from his own half into the post during matches. Watch ball you will not watch you will be arguing what you don't know

hahahaha. I have watched all his goals for united, Madrid, Galaxy, Ac milan and England, and he never bent/curled a goal from his own half. Talk wetin you sabi schizo, volleying a ball into an empty net is not the same as bending.
Beckham never threw a 70m let alone bend from 90m monkey.
Evangkatsoulis: 4:49pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
Midfielder?
Ronaldo a midfielder?
Maybe he plays in the midfield of the opponent's 18 yard box. That's the only midfield he plays!!!

Bittch, Ronaldo is nothing but a penalty box footballer.
Take that!


You really need to compare your DNA with Lai's.

Am sure they match!

was Ronaldo a forward from 2002 to 2008? Under mourinho's 4231 formation with one forward(benzema/higuain) did he play as forward or as an attacking midfielder? It seems you started watching football 2013 or thereabouts.

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Evangkatsoulis: 4:40pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:


This boy dey dull o.
I asked you to provide data showing that in their early career messi came more as sub than Ronaldo.
I was expecting something like minutes played in their first 100 matches or so. Seems I have been arguing with a 6 year old.
Evangkatsoulis: 2:40pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
if you're only half as smart as a kid you would understand that this argument is based on their goals scored as well as appearances made.

Both Messi and Ronaldo fans are trying to make cases as to who should have scored more goals as per games played.

Point is that if Messi was majority a sub then it is an argument for him because it shows he played fewer minutes than the goal ratio even suggests.

Do you understand now?

Cow?
Mumu, it shows their entire career. Ronaldo and messi both started as subs. Can you provide data to show that in the early years messi came more as sub than Ronaldo?
Besides Goal per game ratio is meaningless as messi has being a forward all his career compared to ronaldo who transited from a midfielder to a forward.
Ewu.
Evangkatsoulis: 2:13pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
Ronaldo on paper has always been different from Ronaldo on the pitch.

On the pitch Ronaldo sleeps in the 18 yard box. That's what he did for Madrid for 9 years.
He always choked Benzema for space and displaced him.
Tell all that right winger bullsh1t to the marines.

Messi only played as a false 9 under Guordiola when he was always running in from the midfield.
Other times he played from 2005 till 2007 mainly as a sub.

Ronaldo has always been a penalty box footballer.

I know say e pain you, but live with it.

Ronaldo has always been a penalty box footballer.
Yet Messi thumps his goal ratio.

Now go and cry over that!
If that's not okay, go jerk off in a band of barb wires.

You'd feel much better.

what do you mean by messi played as a sub from 2005 to 2007? SUB na position?
You just show don't what you are saying. Olodostein.
Evangkatsoulis: 1:45pm On Jan 15, 2019
Oeworldbest1:
you are a big mumu aswear. You are really dull. I'm telling you someone has mad long range ball accuracy and giving you examples you are saying nonsense. You can't relate the two because you are not bright now. How many players can do that. Can't even believe this argument, haven't you heard bend it like Beckham. Mtschew, abeg get out you don't know what you are typing

Another product of low-IQ nation, bend it like beckham talks about his freekicks and crosses not es. Nobody bends a 70m , you wan break ya leg?
Evangkatsoulis: 1:42pm On Jan 15, 2019
tesppidd:
Hehehehe

Ronaldo has never been a midfielder all his life,

He was at best a right winger.


*Messi started out as only a substitute.

*He then graduated to a full left winger.

*He then became a false number 9 (if you know how the system works you would know that a false 9 is actually a midfielder).



So you see, Ronaldo has always played closer to the goal than Messi.

Try the next excuse please!

Dumb argument as usual. Ronaldo started as right or left midfielder for man united and portugal then progressed to right/left attacking midfielder in the 4231 of pellegrini/mourinho before playing as a right wing forward in ancelotti's 4-3-3.
Messi began as a left/right wing forward in riijkaard's 4-3-3/3-4-3 before deployed as a CF(false 9). Unlike Ronaldo, he has always been a forward.

You need to read up on football formations and positions(not roles). Mumu wey no know the difference between winger and midfielder.
Evangkatsoulis: 11:59pm On Jan 14, 2019
Etizz:
Hey guy ,you have something some people are looking for but for the right reasons...


Forgetting someone quickly without any emotion attached is very good when the person don't worth you or left because he or she thinks you are not good enough,

But forgetting someone is bad when the person did not really hurt or wrong you....

So my take is, you forget those who wronged and disappoint you or those who will make your life miserable.... Don't do it to people who did not offend you

Why?
Evangkatsoulis: 11:03pm On Jan 14, 2019
Oeworldbest1:

Aswear you be disappointment, who compares anyone to Beckham for long ball accuracy. Beckham wey don dey practice scoring corner kicks from age 15

Another dullard. So scoring cornerkicks is the same as giving 60m es?
Evangkatsoulis: 10:04pm On Jan 14, 2019
Oeworldbest1:

Who is alonso who is scholes you Bleep up, if you had mentioned Beckham I would have kept quiet

So you think beckham was a better long er than scholes or Alonso. U no kukuma sabi anything.
Evangkatsoulis: 9:59pm On Jan 14, 2019
lordparcel:

Google is your friend

since when did outside 18yard mean long shot? The box is 16.5m in length. Even the corner of the box from inside is 23m from goal,
can you show 30m shots from messi?
Evangkatsoulis: 9:53pm On Jan 14, 2019
Oeworldbest1:
it's more than 90m in length
oboy messi no fit give 60m . Na alonso and scholes them level be dat
Evangkatsoulis: 9:36pm On Jan 14, 2019
Hermes019:
I don't have a problem with you if you say a creator exists,but the problem I have is when u say that the creator is "God", if you find a car on the road u definitely know that a person left it there (from experience a car cannot appear by itself)but that is not enough information to say that the owner of the car is named John,if u feel that the universe or rather creation as u say must have a creator since " everything" must be created(now this is ur own opinion) it is not enough to say what the creator is or what it looks like.Saying a creator does not exist and saying God does not exist are not the same thing,an atheist by definition is not a person who says "a" or "the" creator does not or cannot exist,an atheist is a person who says God does not exist !!,it might seem complex for u to understand this because people look at the word "create" or "creator" from a narrow minded perspective

To you, what is the difference between GOD and the creator of the universe?
Evangkatsoulis: 9:07pm On Jan 14, 2019
lordparcel:
Even the whole of Juventus choose Messi over Ronaldo

Dull boy. At 149 games Rashford and ronaldo played different positions!
Evangkatsoulis: 8:57pm On Jan 14, 2019
tesppidd:
it doesn't matter.

63 games less is not a small something.

Not forgetting that Ronaldo played his first 150+ league games as a midfieder compared to messi who has been a forward all his career.
Evangkatsoulis: 11:27am On Jan 12, 2019
TATIME:
Please have you seen or heard of any form of life ib any other planet apart from earth? undecided undecided undecided
Please if you do,let's know because we're dying to throw away this book called Bible that has captured the minds of honest hearted persons with it's foreknowledge of all these! embarassed embarassed embarassed

That life has not been found on another planet doesn't mean all the other billions of planets don't have life.
Evangkatsoulis: 9:59am On Jan 12, 2019
TATIME:
Many books have been written by different intellectuals and we've also read through many of these books!
None is able to say something pertinent to the course of our existence or why we're here except a documents found amongst the Jews. According to historians, this documents was originally written in three different languages, Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.
Later intellectuals combined all these documents together in one big volume and called it Bible. It reveals how a spirit being started all these but what really arouse my interest is the efficacy of this big book in the foreknowledge of certain things we later discovered to be just as this book says!
For example it talks about our vast universe and SPECIFICALLY mentioned that life could ONLY be found on earth! Now this has been proven to be true as space travelers have gone far only to discover that the earth is the ONLY planet where life could flourish. Just as this book said that the spirit being actually PREPARED the earth for living creatures! Genesis 1:1-31
Though other intellectuals criticized this book for it's illustrative presentations but NONE can explain how this ancient book that was written by those primitive dwellers knew that life ONLY could be found on earth!
It can not be prove that life only exists on earth.
Evangkatsoulis: 9:44pm On Jan 11, 2019
Herlertah:

It's always nice seeing a fellow savant. He said "I always see the numbers in my head"

Magnificent!!
so visualizing numbers is what is magnificent?

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