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because a lot of us ARE STILL BLIND, and r still babies, we need Christ to wash away our blindess, and make us to undastand who we r n were we r from.

it seems to me that you believers are the ones blind. are you a xtian or muslim. well i am talking to xtian alone because i WAS once one myself( but now an atheist).

the bible should and must be banned because like i said before, it is a book of errors, fallacies and outrageous mistakes. the truth is that xtians know next to nothing abot this bible they carry around with so much ion. the bible is just a silly old book written by a bunch of illterate ancestors who were just making use of their ancient imaginations. the bible is outdated and archaic therefore does not belong in this moden age.

if i start showing you the outrageous fallacies in the bible, you will be like "Gees, are these really in the bible?
just one word from you again and i will give you a few exaples that will baffle you(not the ones you've heard before, these ones are entirely unbelievable to be found in a HOLY BOOK).

@sylavao2000
but why is it so impssible for God with all his omnis?

"in the begining, and God said, let there be light and there was light"

so why cant God say, "let everything perfect and it would be perfect" is it hard, impossible or too much for us?


One of the earliest formulations of the “Argument from evil” came from one Greek philosopher named Epicurus around the 3rd century BCE, it stated as follows:

“Either God wants to abolish evil and cannot, or he can abolish evil but doesn't want to, or he cannot abolish evil and does not want to, or lastly, he can and wants to.
Firstly, if he wants to remove evil and cannot, then he is not omni potent. If he can remove evil but does not want to, then he is not benevolent (being kind/generous.), if he neither can nor wants to, then he is neither omnipotent nor benevolent, but if God can abolish evil and wants to, then how come evil still exist?”

READ THIS VERY WELL AND THINK ABOUT IT CRITICALLY.

i am waiting for your answers.

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MIRACLES AS IT IS CALLED TODAY IS NOTHING BUT ARCHAIC OR ANCIENT SCIENCE, THE ABILITY TO PERFORM MIRACLES IS A SKILL THAT CAN BE ACQUIRED THROUGH DEEP AND INTENSE STUDIES AND DEDICATION TO THE ACT. THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MAGIC OR SUPERNATURAL, OR MIRACLES. COLLECTIVELY, THEY ARE ALL BRANCHES OF SCIENCE.
YOU CAN START PERFORMING MIRACLES IN A SHORT WHILE IF YOU PRACTICE VOODOO, WICCA AND ALL OTHER ANCIENT SCIENCES. BUT OUR SO CALLED MEN OF GOD WON'T REVEAL THESE SECRETS TO YOU SO THAT YOU WON'T SPOIL MARKET FOR THEM.
AS FOR ME, I PRACTICED WICCA FOR UP TO A YEAR AND I FOUND MYSELF DOING SOME STRANGE THINGS I NEVER IMAGINED. BUT I MUST WARN YOU, IT IS VERY RISKY AND REQIURES ABSOLUTE CONCENTRATION AND DEDICATION. AND I DONT THINK I WANT TO LIVE MY WHOLE LIFE PRACTICING THIS ACT. IF I HAD DECLARED GOD'S CALLING AT THAT TIME, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED ME AND THOUGHT IT WAS FROM SOME GOD UP IN HEAVEN THAT GAVE ME THOSE POWERS.

ANYWAY I AM NOT THE TYPE THAT CAN BE DECIEVED BY OUR SO CALLED MEN OF GOD BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THEY THINK THEY KNOW THAT WE DONT KNOW.

I MEAN, WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND? JUST READ WHAT DRIONELLI WROTE BEFORE ME. THE FACT THAT You CAN SIT IN YOUR COMPUTER AND COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE THOUSAND OF MILES AWAY SHOULD BE TERMED SUPERNATURAL ISNT IT? THE FACT YOU CAN STAY IN YOUR LIVING ROOM AND TALK TO PEOPLE MILES WAY SHOULD ALSO BE TERMED SUPERNATURAL ISNT IT?
WHY HAVENT YOU ASKED THE SCIENTISTS HOW THEY BUILT THIS "SUPERNATURAL MACHINES" THAT CAN PERFORM SUCH "MIRACLES".

IN THE ANCIENT TIMES, WITCHES VIEW THE WORLD WITH THEIR CRYSTAL BALL. BUT NOW, WE VIEW THE WHOLE WORLD WITH OUR TV; I CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN A AMERICA, ASIA AND EUROPE LIVE IN MY CRYSTAL BALL. ISNT THAT SUPERNATURAL?
SO LETS NOT DECIEVE OURSELVES, MIRACLES CAN SIMPLY BE DEFINED AS ANCIENT OR ARCHAIC SCIENCE, ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.



read the posts at Atheists:Explain the Existence of Miracles! and see more details.

@DRRIONELI
That I can sit in the US and type these words and you--wherever you are--can read them instantaneously is something that our grandparents would have found wildly beyond belief. In fact they might have said that we'd need "supernatural" powers to do so.

Thanks man, you have just given the right answer for those who can reason with their heads.
but let me add more to that.
MIRACLES AS IT IS CALLED TODAY IS NOTHING BUT ARCHAIC OR ANCIENT SCIENCE, THE ABILITY TO PERFORM MIRACLES IS A SKILL THAT CAN BE ACQUIRED THROUGH DEEP AND INTENSE STUDIES AND DEDICATION TO THE ACT. THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MAGIC OR SUPERNATURAL, OR MIRACLES. COLLECTIVELY, THEY ARE ALL BRANCHES OF SCIENCE.
YOU CAN START PERFORMING MIRACLES IN A SHORT WHILE IF YOU PRACTICE VOODOO, WICCA AND ALL OTHER ANCIENT SCIENCES. BUT OUR SO CALLED MEN OF GOD WON'T REVEAL THESE SECRETS TO YOU SO THAT YOU WON'T SPOIL MARKET FOR THEM.
AS FOR ME, I PRACTICED WICCA FOR UP TO A YEAR AND I FOUND MYSELF DOING SOME STRANGE THINGS I NEVER IMAGINED. BUT I MUST WARN YOU, IT IS VERY RISKY AND REQIURES ABSOLUTE CONCENTRATION AND DEDICATION. AND I DONT THINK I WANT TO LIVE MY WHOLE LIFE PRACTICING THIS ACT. IF I HAD DECLARED GOD'S CALLING AT THAT TIME, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BELIEVED ME AND THOUGHT IT WAS FROM SOME GOD UP IN HEAVEN THAT GAVE ME THOSE POWERS.

ANYWAY I AM NOT THE TYPE THAT CAN BE DECIEVED BY OUR SO CALLED MEN OF GOD BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THEY THINK THEY KNOW THAT WE DONT KNOW.

I MEAN, WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND? JUST READ WHAT DRIONELLI WROTE BEFORE ME. THE FACT THAT U CAN SIT IN YOUR COMPUTER AND COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE THOUSAND OF MILES AWAY SHOULD BE TERMED SUPERNATURAL ISNT IT? THE FACT YOU CAN STAY IN YOUR LIVING ROOM AND TALK TO PEOPLE MILES WAY SHOULD ALSO BE TERMED SUPERNATURAL ISNT IT?
WHY HAVENT YOU ASKED THE SCIENTISTS HOW THEY BUILT THIS "SUPERNATURAL MACHINES" THAT CAN PERFORM SUCH "MIRACLES".

IN THE ANCIENT TIMES, WITCHES VIEW THE WORLD WITH THEIR CRYSTAL BALL. BUT NOW, WE VIEW THE WHOLE WORLD WITH OUR TV; I CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN A AMERICA, ASIA AND EUROPE LIVE IN MY CRYSTAL BALL. ISNT THAT SUPERNATURAL?
SO LETS NOT DECIEVE OURSELVES, MIRACLES CAN SIMPLY BE DEFINED AS ANCIENT OR ARCHAIC SCIENCE, ITS AS SIMPLE AS THAT.


NOTE; i am an atheist: an atheist is simply one who denies or disbeliefs in the existence of a god or gods. an atheist can believe in any other things except god with good reasons as well. also the fact that weird things happen in this universe does not indicate that some god is behind them.
i am an atheist and i am proud of the heritage of atheism due to the way it embraces reason and critical thinking.
( former xtian, present atheist).

want to know more, ask me anything?

@ IDINRETE
dude you are amazing!

i don't understand what you mean. are for me or against me?

Thanks man, this is the type of topic i've been waiting for. Do yoou know why? I actually wrote a short poem some time ago titled IF I WERE GOD,
And it goes thus;

IF I WERE GOD I WOULD MAKE ALL DREAMS COME TRUE

BECAUSE ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE FOR THEM THAT TRUST IN ME

IF I WERE GOD EVIL WILL NEVER RULE

AND I'LL MAKE THE HEARTS OF MEN TO BE HOW I WANT IT TO BE

IF I WERE GOD THERE 'LL BE NO BEGGARS ON THE STREETS

,BEGGING FOR MONEY OR MAYBE SOME FOOD TO EAT

AND THERE WILL BE NO SORROW AND THERE WILL NO PAINS

BECAUSE IF I WERE GOD, I'LL BREAK ALL OF THE CHAINS.


what of you, what if you could be God?

Hmmmm , A WORLD WIDE BAN ON BIBLES? THAT WILL BE THE GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT THAT WOULD EVER BE MADE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. ITS HIGH TIME WE DO AWAY WITH THAT SILLY OLD BOOK. A BOOK THAT IS FULL OF ERRORS, FALLACIES AND OUTREGEOUS FLAWS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY, LET ALONE ALLOWING IT TO ENDURE MORE FURTHER. IF YOU HAVE STUDIED THE BIBLE VERY WELL, U WILL UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS A BOOK THAT MUST BE BANNED.

The year 2004 - - - completely lost my lovely dad, he never got his miracles,