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newafricaken254:
libya MIG-23 Jet

Sh#t, that's very close to the ground... Are those man supposed to be on the runway when a plane takes off?

Algerian1:
para commando public show , 5 july Algeria

I noticed how in Algeria, military public shows are a martial arts affair instead of mockup assaults like in South Africa. You flex your military muscle in a very literal way.

I'm not having another debate anymore. I had to put that guy in order.

Covert1:
Nigeria is the giant of Africa. Period. The sooner other africans accept this fact however painful it is the sooner africa chats a better future for itself working with Nigeria. This is what Britain did acknowledging America´s leadership after the Suez fall. South Africa is expected to do the same or continue to wane into insignificance in Africa´s geo-political equation. You can deny all you want for national pride and ego but the indices point to that fact whether now or in the future. South Africa rather will find its relevance in a working relationship with Nigeria not outside of it. It is still an important country. On the map Egypt and Algeria may be in Africa but geo-politically speaking its interests does not lie here; they are not arming for Nigeria neither is Nigeria arming for them. They have their bitter histories of internal conflict and conflict with european powers and Israel to make them continuosly be in a state of war for which they generously spend. Nigeria is not at war with any state. If there was an existential external threat it would arm appropriately for that. Nigeria´s military planners today contend with 14 internal threats chief of which is Boko Haram and same time plan for potential conflicts across Africa. It buys what it needs and not what it wants. Nigeria´s military is africa´s most secretive and for good reason. Nigeria´s navy chief will tell you his boys operate some of the most sophisticated assets but won´t give anything away until the shooting startsNigeria´s air chief will tell you the F-7s are very good aircraft and makes you wonder but guess what they are up-arming. The Nige. rian Air force today can deploy on multiple theaters of war. Senegal on the door-step of Gambia has an airforce but only Nigeria could deploy air combat capability over Gambian airspace many kliometres from its homeland. Air power is not just airframes but actually an organisation that can bring it to bear in combat effectively. Pls dont mention Chad, it has no pilots and no airforce rather a dictators mercenary protection unit which can be sabotaged on the ground by special forces. You want us to believe a lie that the chadians captured land against boko haram? Last we checked It was the Nigerian army that still cleared Dikwa not Chad who was given a beaten and took heavy losses fighting rebels like rebels with little to no armour. Mali? Nigeria withdrew its combat forces cos the UN will not give it command which if it had the story will be different today but Joe Biden and Yankees were too jealous to allow it going to the western press to yell falsehoods abut us being unprepared: shear jealous seeing the speed of our rugged deployments with C-130s. Let francophone africa continue playing Paris script until Nigeria outgrows economically. Uganda run by a dictator who emptied his Central Bank to buy Sukhios with no air to ground munitions to play african strong man but in a war with Kenya will lose. If Nigeria was in somalia the story will be different because of its air over-lay capacity and army on the ground. But no Museveni wants to have command but Nigeria said no its our commanders calling the shots or you carry your cross. So we gave them our police. You ridicule Nigeria for Boko Haram which if they existed in anyother african country that country will cease to exist. These are Islamafascists who come to die and not fight and which it has defeated against the odds. Nigeria just like anyother country has its shortcomings and challenges but its natural place of africa´s leadership is irreversible except it implodes from within which is the way empires fall and not by external military aggression. Nigerians as a rule must know hegemons are hated by lesser powers and should of course understand that hate expressed here by some; you can´t wish it away. You can reel off numbers of weapons and equipment but wars are won with a combination of factors: political, economic, military, strategic global alliances and most impotantly people and by that i dont mean numbers but human capacity and that Nigeria is not lacking. Nigeria alone will be producing 40% of Africa´s GDP in some 20 years. Lagos alone is about 35 african economies combined. Kudos to the Nigerians here who stood up for the homeland against hate. Our african brothers we dont hate you even if you seek our downfall at every turn like when we faced the worse evil of all time: boko haram. Nigeria will prevail. This debate will be interesting. When time permits...

The only giant you're is the giant of cassava consumption.

You're economically invaded and besieged by South Africa. South Africa is fast putting it's nails in your economy.

The future world doesn't involve mass labour, it involves automation, digital crypto currencies generated by high electricity output something South Africa clearly has an advantage of 10 times than Nigeria. This is not the 20th century where bigger populations meant mass markets and mass labour. The new workforce in the next 2 decades is AI and high business taxation to provide Universal Basic Income.

You have a very high population, low tax collection rate, low HDI. You won't be able to provide UBI to your mass population..... Another Boko Haram will be born.

South Africa has a low fertility rate, higher HDI (better literacy and better education) and therefore producing better citizens for the new age economy.

iblawi:
We are not getting block 1 or 2. What we are expecting is beyond your comprehension.

Wait... Where is it? You don't have it... We won't talk until have it.

You're bragging about unicorns.

In the meantime, the nation of 200 million people is open for sky r#pping.... You're still dreaming. Go hang.

iblawi:


ActivateKruger is really dull. He doesn't have knowledge of everything you just said and he still doesn't know the JF17 thunder Nigeria order will be using the Radar currently being tested. It outperform the Gripens radar.

Blah blah blah

We've been hearing about your fairytale JFs, by the time you fly them whatever there's in them would be dated, no longer cutting edge.

We have the ability to upgrade our Grips... You obviously don't know that.

iblawi:


Just as South Africa makes 0...

South Africa = 46 Orxies + 12 Rooivalks (South African design and custom parts) + 24 BAE Hawks (localy assembled) + 30 Augusta AW109 (localy assembled)


This excludes props and civilian Agusta, other helicopters, Dassault Mirages and Impala MK2s assembled pre-94

Nigeria = 0

iblawi:


It doesn't have to be America this time, can do just that. America is too big to deal with you.

FYI, you don't make helicopters. South Africa only assemble parts with little modification.

Of which Nigeria makes 0... *yawning

jteku:


How about the fact that no one buys it.

Haven't you heard of a lady who thinks she is the most sexiest girl in the world, have a million plus followers on FB, Instagram and twitter, she gets all the likes and retweets. But she never realise the fact that no man ask her out or sleeps with her.
That is the problem with Rooivalk always among the world 10 best attack helicopters but no one still buys them.

"no one buys it"?

How about the fact that the 12 were actually bought by the SANDF from Denel? You think they were handed over for free.... Idi#t

The fact that we can make our own systems without having to beg the US puts us out of your league.

As for you, do you even make 1 helicopter in your country? You idi#t.

jakeporeshenko:

Honestly 20-30 years from now the entire world is going to move on without ever knowing that thing existed, why you ask ??
1. didn't make a dent, its memory will simply fade away.
2. Didn't take part in any major operations, this is not even an insult but the only enemy a rooivalk ever had were hungry rebels.

History will not your "best physical performance in the world"dedicated[/b] attack helicopter and there's nothing you they can do about it.

You know...

One Nigerian once said, don't throw stones if......

So, you're battling hungry rebels in your own country. Your airforce is flying sorties and bombing your own hungry rebels. Your own boys are posing next to dead Nigerians as victory.


Your own so-called battle experience is nothing more than Nigerians killing each other.

On the other hand.. The Rooivalk will never be used against South Africans, NEVER.

We shall always be on the list of the few countries that successfully made an attack helicopter. As for you, you shall always be the guys killing each other.

jteku:


am even begin to hate this name Rooivalk, everytime I try to Learn something new on this thread all I keep seeing is Rooivalk, even the pronunciation is not good at all, south Africa has only 12 and no other country in the world has it, so there is nothing special about the THING.......make una live us make we here word abeg

What's so special? How about the fact that if you Google "attack helicopters" it appears on the list, an elite of 9 helicopters made by 200 countries.


Yes, 200 countries produced 9 platforms and the Rooivalk is there - Where's yours?


We only need 3 Rooivalks per battlefront, so technically we can simultaneously run 4 fronts with only a dozen Rooivalks - That's effectiveness.

..... Lastly, you're not the only ones hating the Rooivalk, the M23 and Mai-mai survivors are hating it as well because it placed an end to their days of terrorizing women and children.

iblawi:


Dummy ask you fellow South Africans for clarification. EW suit on gripen NG is different from what is on gripen C/D you Internet warrior.

Doesn't the SAAF Gripen have radar jammers? Some people.

iblawi:


Self deceiving country. The second pic is for Gripens E/F not gripen C/D with South Africa airforce.

wait.. What does the built-in EW suit with the SAAF Gripen do? It plays music?

Nok234:


Tell me this is a joke, this government revenu !! Not Nigeria as a hole thats why a say economy and not government funding ... The Nigeria Government doesnt take many taxes very low 2.7% of GDP (2016 est.) & SA 27.3% of GDP (2016 est.). https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sf.html https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html
Your killing your people with taxes this is not our problem loool

You don't have an effective tax collection system like South Africa. Your state is failing to collect tax like it should.

iblawi:

South Africa is not even in the same league with Sudan as they are far ahead of you.

40mig 29,

12 su24,

15 su 25,

20 J7,

15 J5 and

54 mi24 dedicated attack helicopters.

You keep coming here to run your mouth like anus of a purging gay.

Oh please, a MiG29? and 23 are in service. That wouldn't even see the low radar signature Gripen coming.

That can scare the NAF maybe, we have something more modern with better avionics and built-in EW suits.

Henry240:


The Nigerian delegation found the helicopter to be very inferior. If the Nigerian Air Force thought differently, we would have gotten a statement indicating interests.

It's the stark truth, you don't like it doesn't make it false.

Link please? You didn't order the Rooivalk because you needed something that was already available because you had somehow not build up the capacity while you had time.

We have the Rooivalk, 26 Gripens, Submarines and Valour frigates in peace times.

IbnSultaan:

.grow up n stop the rants

Your planes can't even do a perfect formation... This is how it's done.

SupremeCourt:


If their is no more face to face in 21st century war, why do your soldiers carry rifles in South African army? You shoot rifle at enemy you dont see with your eyes?

Nigerian air force can use guiding missiles from air drones, war helicopters, and jf-17 thunder jets from many miles away where the enemy cannot see NAF aeroplanes. Those jf-17 are coming with invisible distance guiding missiles that do not exist in any black African country, whatever flies in South Africa will fall under gravity and you wont even see the jf-17 far off shooting. The budget 2017, draft 2018 covers all that with proposal for 2019-2020 AESAA radar being tested, it is said that it blinds its opponents.

Air Marshal Abubakar insists anything NAF buys now will be complete package of sophistication available in the country of origin. We paid for 3 jets on 2016-17 budgets, our demand for state-of-the art technology that are now being tested is causing slow down to delivery. The 2020 medium term plan document dictates NAF must have superior air power above any country in Africa except the Mediterranean nations. No nation in the black world will be able to survive against NAF 2020.

Blah blah blah, by then South Africa will be having Rafales.... We can buy any export weapon system in the world without begging the US Congress.

As for you dream on, you're still to be in the Sudan league before you get to Uganda and Angola.

GreenandGold:
ssaengine, ActivateKruger and Patches take the Operator's picture before I remove it.

Picture taken .... You can remove

IbnSultaan:
Empty drums make the loudest noise

You're right there, people with no dedicated attack helicopters and 4th generation fighters make the most noise.

Let's move on, you have nothing to show us.

iblawi:




The bottom line is Mi35m have been used in operation while Rooivalk is still escorting food.

. [/b]

While killing the M23, Mai Mai and shaming the fat Hind at it. B)

New level of effectiveness

SupremeCourt:
Ego wont save you when we meet face 2 face !

When you meet who face-to-face? You think this is the 19th century spear wars?

In a military clash against South Africa you would be flattened by Gripens, Hawks and Rooivalks before the mechanized and motorised rolls over whatever is left of you.

This is the 21st century, get on with the times.

Fidha254:
The thread should be changed to Naija VS SA

That would make the west African boys think they're in the same league. Maybe it should be Niaja vs Sudan, it's a fair competition.

SupremeCourt:
New millennium experienced air force, plan make we go kill some bad people dem

Even Uganda has a better Airforce, yawn.

The beast, the Rooivalk. Sleek, modern and deadly.

So Nigeria got the Hind because :

- America don't want you close to their technology, even if it's decades old hand-me-downs from Jordan.

- You're too poor to afford sophisticated Russian attack helicopters like the Havoc and the Black Shark.

So you turned to the fat ugly rejection called the Hind not even the UN wants any more.


I'm laughing in Yoruba this time.

iblawi:


The useless Rooivalk with useless avionics still needs 's permission before it can be bought.

Self deceiving country.

Look and observe how a dedicated attack helicopter looks like.... Something you may never see because Congress keeps blocking your purchases.

Behold, a real attack helicopter.

iblawi:


The useless Rooivalk with useless avionics still needs 's permission before it can be bought.

Self deceiving country.

You're trying hard to ignore the fact that the UN chose the Rooivalk over the Hind.

You're stuck with that ugly fat thing because Congress denied you a real attack helicopter.

I'm laughing in Igbo again.

iblawi:


I can see a female in the first picture. This is enough to prove these are not gripen pilots. Am sure most of them fly transport/other aircrafts.

Because woman in Nigeria are not smart enough to pilot modern fighters? Or wait you have no modern fighters.... I'm laughing in both Igbo and Yoruba now.

iblawi:


Is that suppose to be a requirement for a country with such population?

Wise up. Keep dodging my question.

It's useless to me to even narrate to you how a Gripen would r#pe your skies, you can't even explain to me how you don't even have a modern fighter in your assernal.

Henry240:


Good photos of your Hawk pilots.

Now show us your Gripen pilots?

By the way, that picture is unrelated.

Let me see.....


You wouldn't know a Gripen pilot when he punched you on your broken tooth... Do you know why? You have never even seen a 4th generation fighter in your whole life. Go to sleep.